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Spy Chief Complains That Edward Snowden Sped Up Spread of Encryption By 7 Years (theintercept.com) 243

An anonymous reader cites an article on The Intercept: The director of national intelligence on Monday blamed NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden for advancing the development of user-friendly, widely available strong encryption. "As a result of the Snowden revelations, the onset of commercial encryption has accelerated by seven years," James Clapper said. The shortened timeline has had "a profound effect on our ability to collect, particularly against terrorists," he said. When pressed by The Intercept to explain his figure, Clapper said it came from the National Security Agency. "The projected growth maturation and installation of commercially available encryption -- what they had forecasted for seven years ahead, three years ago, was accelerated to now, because of the revelation of the leaks." Asked if that was a good thing, leading to better protection for American consumers from the arms race of hackers constantly trying to penetrate software worldwide, Clapper answered no. "From our standpoint, it's not ⦠it's not a good thing," he said."Of all the things I've been accused of," Snowden said, "this is the one of which I am most proud."
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Spy Chief Complains That Edward Snowden Sped Up Spread of Encryption By 7 Years

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  • Thanks Edward (Score:5, Insightful)

    by freax ( 80371 ) on Monday April 25, 2016 @12:12PM (#51983679) Homepage

    Fantastic. Well done.

    • Re:Thanks Edward (Score:5, Insightful)

      by PraiseBob ( 1923958 ) on Monday April 25, 2016 @12:36PM (#51983901)
      Funny how he blames the person who exposed the criminal actions as the problem, rather than the criminals. Either way the end result is that hundreds of millions, perhaps billions of people are now less vulnerable to organized crime, directly because of Snowdens actions. Thanks Edward!
      • by KGIII ( 973947 )

        By organized crime, you mean the government, right?

      • Criminals tend to blames the person who exposed the criminal actions as the problem, rather than themselves. Is James Clapper a criminal? Yes, he is. NSA can do its job without violating American civil liberties. They don't want to because its harder and takes longer than simply grabbing everything and then sorting.

    • For real. Mr. The Clap, we knew we owed him a lot but I'm not sure how many of us were aware of this; you have our gratitude (and likely your masters' wrath) for bringing it to our attention.
    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      Fully agree. He is a hero.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    Thank you, Mr. Snowden. Countless around the world are in your debt.
  • by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Monday April 25, 2016 @12:16PM (#51983719)

    Boohooo, we actually have to work now, that's not fair!

  • by blueshift_1 ( 3692407 ) on Monday April 25, 2016 @12:18PM (#51983737)
    Even more important than just the spread of Encryption itself, but the fact that more and more of the non-tech community is becoming acquainted with it and why it's important. It's exciting to see people who clearly prescribe to the "I just want my technology to work" thought process to be actually caring about the underlying processes.
  • by Irick ( 1842362 ) on Monday April 25, 2016 @12:21PM (#51983759)

    The inconvenient thing about everyone's life becoming infinitely more visible in our little digital village is that everyone's life is infinitely more visible. Those who have the inclination can know as much as any expert in any field is willing to share, and those who have the inclination can use that expertise as they see fit.

    Tread lightly, you weary giants of flesh and steel. Wading head first into /dev/null is sure to fill the bitbucket in inconvenient ways.

  • Not Snowden (Score:5, Insightful)

    by HornyBastard ( 666805 ) on Monday April 25, 2016 @12:26PM (#51983809)
    Snowden is not responsible for this.
    Clapper and his friends in the intelligence agencies have been abusing their spy powers for years with overreaching dragnet surveillance operations.
    If they were not such abusive, power hungry megalomaniacs, most people would not consider encryption a necessity.
    Clapper needs to take responsibility for his own actions, and not blame people who actually do something to protect and defend the constitution that he uses as toilet paper/
    • by tom229 ( 1640685 )
      The real hero is actually international consumers. The large US tech companies seem to have been willingly complicit in these surveillance operations. They only started backpedaling and offering encryption on all their services after the international community started looking outside the USA for infrastructure hosting. The American people, while i have nothing bad to say about them, would likely have just taken these revelations on the chin and done nothing (see the patriot act). So thank Snowden for the i
  • by nanodec ( 999112 ) on Monday April 25, 2016 @12:29PM (#51983843)
    It was at great peril and disregard to himself and his personal safety that Edward Snowden went into hiding due to proving yet again the danger of a government left unchecked, unquestioned and ungoverned. It is my hope that he is allowed to safety one day return to the US and take his place among the countless heroes there.
  • by king neckbeard ( 1801738 ) on Monday April 25, 2016 @12:33PM (#51983881)
    By making encryption more widespread, Snowden has done more for national security than the NSA has in the same time. Why don't we just give him Clapper's job?
  • 7 years (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25, 2016 @12:37PM (#51983907)

    -3 + 7 = 4

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      The phrasing is bad. It's actually 7 - (-3) = 10. So, the predictions were for 10 years from 3 years ago or 7 years from today.

  • Funny... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25, 2016 @12:41PM (#51983949)

    Funny how there is enough broad historic and current data in order to analyze this trend, but they can't (will not) provide a rough estimate of how many people have their comms/metadata sucked up into their data centers... funny that.

  • His job is not to complain. His job is information gathering and information warfare. Remember something else: all warfare is deception. This is not my paranoia. This is established understanding of how the world works. Now see what follows if you adapt this premise.
    • I believe you're referencing this: "All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near." --Sun-Tsu, "The Art of War"
  • ebbs and flows (Score:4, Insightful)

    by supernova87a ( 532540 ) <kepler1@NoSpaM.hotmail.com> on Monday April 25, 2016 @12:46PM (#51984009)
    The thing to realize (and the way to view) these technology-based impacts to social/public policy is that power flows back and forth between the protagonists and antagonists over decades. And the newfound power that ordinary people now have (or just began to realize) is a gradual shift from government unsupervised/unchallenged intelligence, to protection in the hands of ordinary people.

    It's a refreshing public realization of what we've been giving up, unawares, because we didn't know any better. And note that it may not even last. People may forget why we need privacy, and vigilance against an all-pervasive state. They may choose to give it up in the name (not even reality) of security. Maybe there'll be another event that changes public opinion in favor of more surveillance. Or, people might gradually see the extent that stupidity/invasiveness has reached, and continue to make decisions with their wallets and votes.

    But as long as this issue has been around, the balance of power has, and will continue to, ebb and flow between the struggling parties on either side. (And note, the good guys / bad guys are not always definitively on the public/individual vs. government sides -- that can swap too.)
  • by dingleberrie ( 545813 ) on Monday April 25, 2016 @01:00PM (#51984093)

    "The projected growth maturation and installation of commercially available encryption -- what they had forecasted for seven years ahead, three years ago, was accelerated to now, because of the revelation of the leaks."

    That reads like the revelations only pushed it ahead by 4 years.

  • Clapper is a moron who is totally failing to see the bigger picture.

  • by ilsaloving ( 1534307 ) on Monday April 25, 2016 @01:02PM (#51984111)

    Didn't they establish that the most recent attacks were done using burner cell phones, and no encryption was involved at all?

  • The shortened timeline has had "a profound effect on our ability to collect, particularly against citizens of the world," he said.

    FTFY.

    You see, Mr. Clapper, no one believes you, specially considering the fact that we don't know of any terrorists or their plots that you've been able to expose for the past 20 years. None. However we approximately know your budget and how terrorism is basically a non-issue for people 'cause the number of people dying of other causes is several magnitudes higher. This "war" on terrorism is a plot against people, not for people.

  • by swm ( 171547 ) <swmcd@world.std.com> on Monday April 25, 2016 @01:12PM (#51984195) Homepage

    Clapper lied, under oath, to congress.
    He was given the questions he would be asked, in writing, before hand.
    He lied when asked those questions.
    When asked afterwards, in writing, if he wanted to amend any of his answers, he declined.
    He only admitted the truth after it came out in the Snowden revelations.

    Why would anyone now believe anything he says?

  • Note that this probably refers to civilian encryption being accelerated by seven years. Most likely many sensitive US government databases, such as the personnel database, still have the password "admin", with no encryption at all.
  • by Impy the Impiuos Imp ( 442658 ) on Monday April 25, 2016 @01:21PM (#51984255) Journal

    Technically it was the warrantless access by government that drove Snowden, which drove this.

    And sloppy, logless, no-tracking warrantless access at that.

  • The underlying reasons for terrorism and whatever other perverted activities initiated by humans are not addressed, not even is the ability to look at those and recognize what is going on is remotely present!

    If one group says "A", the next group says no, it is "B", where the eliminating causes actions are "C".

    This Mr. Clapper is right in the middle of the blame/manipulate/denial/stroking his own butt game.

    And yeah, the idea that black holes could be gateways to other universes helps a lot...

  • CORRECTION Your blanket, warrentless spying is the reason for the mass adoption of Encryption. If you had developed a program that was honest, forthcoming with clear and strong safeguards instead of running a clandestine black-ops style program then people would not have been so shocked and appalled and rushed to defend themselves and their communications from your greasy fingers
  • Is turning random characters into an a with a circumflex[1] a form of encryption?

    [1] That thing you call a "chinaman hat", manishs.

  • ie, why keep giving CLAPPER more air time and press time?

    he's a traitor (by many definitions of the term) and he's definitely anti-freedom and I dare say, anti-american. he's a pox upon us.

    why keep giving this idiot more and more air-time?

    WE SHOULD BE IGNORING HIS BULLSHIT.

  • The shortened timeline has had "a profound effect on our ability to collect, particularly against terrorists," he said

    We are all glad it had a profound effect on your ability to collect against the other people, you know, us, the innocent that you used to lie about not collecting anything.

    particularly against terrorists

    How would you know? It's encrypted. Unless the communication was from a know terrorist (like one featured in a magazine), in which case not doing anything but complain about their encryption is plain and simple failing at your job.

    Anyway, we know you collected the communications of the terrorists you let do the attack in Paris, it was not

  • James Clapper said. The shortened timeline has had "a profound effect on our ability to collect, particularly against terrorists,"

    Huh? What?

    Is it "terrorists" that are the primary users of encryption?

    Dear Jimmy Clap: "[Citation Needed]"

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