Oklahoma Video Vigilante Uses Drone To Wage War Against Prostitutes and Johns (bbc.com) 339
HughPickens.com writes: Chris Baraniuk writes at BBC that Brian Bates, known in Oklahoma as the "Video Vigilante," is taking credit for Amanda Zolicoffer's conviction on a lewdness charge after being caught on Bates' drone mounted camera in a sex act in a parked vehicle last year. Zolicoffer was sentenced to a year in state prison for the misdemeanor while the case against her alleged client, who was released following arrest in December, is still pending. "I'm sort of known in the Oklahoma City area," says Bates . "For the last 20 years I've used a video camera to document street-level and forced prostitution, and human trafficking." Bates runs a website where he publishes videos of alleged sex workers and their clients. "I am openly referred to as a video vigilante, I don't really shy away from that," says Bates adding that the two individuals were inside a vehicle and the incident occurred away from other members of the public. The drone dropped to within a few feet of the vehicle where it filmed a 75 year old in the front seat of the white pickup truck. The duo separated after Zolicoffer, who was identified by her tattoo saying "Baby Gangster," saw the drone hovering overhead.
Going voyeur... (Score:5, Insightful)
... to force your morality unto everyone else. Of course he's proud of his "successes."
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... to force your morality unto everyone else. Of course he's proud of his "successes."
It's not an issue of morality; it's an issue of legality. Being Jewish is illegal in most states. If you disagree with the law, you can write to your and suggest he/she vote to change the law. That doesn't mean you get to disobey it. This good German citizen was not breaking any laws. The Jews he caught were.
You'd have been one of the first to slap on a brown shirt, wouldn't you?
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your argument is false.
a case that needs analogies with Holocaust, hitler and nazis, to maintain is a failed case(when victims and perpetrators are not using or suffering same violence).
if you think something illegal is violating a higher moral law (this is very suspect territory since various people have various moral codes), fight to change the law. by all legal means. write to elected representatives, hold protests , use civil disobedience. etc etc
if the law is maintained through violence(as with nazis)
Re: Going voyeur... (Score:2)
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enforcement (against violators of law) is different from maintenance (against possibility of reform of law).
read my previous comment and you will see which i meant.
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I'd say you too have a very unique definition of violence, except that there's no such thing as "very unique".
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your comment makes no sense whatever.
maybe you got confused by cosm's alteration (with bold text) the statement made by BitterOak.
i suggest you read the thread in full and clarify your head.
Re:Going voyeur... (Score:5, Insightful)
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It's a collective action problem. To get prostitution legalized requires gross injustice that can't be ignored. A little bit of injustice can be easily stomached. This activist is making the problem uncomfortable enough to motivate a change in policy.
Next time you hear about a cop going to prison for rape: think of all the prostitutes who got picked up for solicitation and let off in exchange for some quid pro quo.
The way things are leaves prostitutes vulnerable. A lack of discretion in enforcement is exact
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To get prostitution legalized requires gross injustice that can't be ignored.
What gross injustice? The fact that something that has been around since the earliest civilizations and is legal in multiple countries is illegal in the US? You mean that gross injustice?
The next time (Score:2)
and if ya bangin a lot, save some for a barret 50 cal and a hummer.
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They aren't martyrs, they're your victims. A martyr is someone who sacrifices themselves, they were sacrificed by you.
As you demonstrated above, people who claim to be indifferent about the consequences of their actions - in your case promoting such a nasty idea - are usually just lying to themselves about what th
Re:Going voyeur... (Score:5, Insightful)
This is one of those laws designed to reduce offence to people and going around taking a close look at those a long way away from others who could take offence is a bit pointless and nasty.
It's "cheaper" to give people AIDS in Oklahoma... (Score:5, Insightful)
...than sex. Or porn. Or to swear.
http://statelaws.findlaw.com/o... [findlaw.com]
A. Every person who willfully either: ...
3. Writes, composes, stereotypes, prints, photographs, designs, copies, draws, engraves, paints, molds, cuts, or otherwise prepares, publishes, sells, distributes, keeps for sale, or exhibits any obscene or indecent writing, paper, book, picture, photograph, motion picture, figure, form of any description or any type of obscene material; or
4. Makes, prepares, cuts, sells, gives, loans, distributes, keeps for sale, or exhibits any disc record, metal, plastic, or wax, wire or tape recording, or any type of obscene material or any other kind of sound recording of any obscene or indecent language, poetry, or songs, or who speaks any words by means of a telephone to any person which are offensive to decency or are calculated to excite vicious or lewd thoughts or acts, or who speaks any other communicable words which are offensive to decency or are adapted to excite vicious or lewd thoughts or acts,
shall be guilty, upon conviction, of a felony and shall be punished by the imposition of a fine of not less than Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00) nor more than Twenty Thousand Dollars ($20,000.00) or by imprisonment for not less than thirty (30) days nor more than ten (10) years, or by both such fine and imprisonment. Persons convicted under paragraphs 3 and 4 of subsection A of this section shall not be eligible for a deferred sentence.
A. It shall be unlawful for any person knowing that he or she has Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS) or is a carrier of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and with intent to infect another, to engage in conduct reasonably likely to result in the transfer of the person's own blood, bodily fluids containing visible blood, semen, or vaginal secretions into the bloodstream of another, or through the skin or other membranes of another person, except during in utero transmission of blood or bodily fluids, and:
1. The other person did not consent to the transfer of blood, bodily fluids containing blood, semen, or vaginal secretions; or
2. The other person consented to the transfer but at the time of giving consent had not been informed by the person that the person transferring such blood or fluids had AIDS or was a carrier of HIV.
B. Any person convicted of violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment in the custody of the Department of Corrections for not more than five (5) years.
So basically, someone could get 10 years for describing a dream in which he/she gives AIDS to someone through sexual intercourse - but only 5 years if it was not a dream.
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Re:Going voyeur... (Score:5, Informative)
There's more to the story [thesmokinggun.com] with a police arrest record which isn't mentioned in the news stories:
The more you know about the true story behind a reported news story, the more you learn the "news" is typically at best clueless and at worst 100% in the wrong direction.
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The only reason there is a law against it is that it offends the sensibilities of some people's imaginary friend.
Re:Going voyeur... (Score:5, Interesting)
There is no fucking way someone could fly this many drones, over this much municipal area, coming this close, to this many vehicles and property, and take this much video, of pornographic/voyeristic nature, and upload it to the internet (with ads?) without breaking enough laws to have them playing poker with Bernie Madoff for the rest of his days at least.
This guy is a whackjob with fetish for stalking hookers with drones. He's the poster child for everything that's wrong with the drone "community", and one of the reasons drone owners will all be tarred as creeps and assholes within the next ten years.
Take your aerial shots while you can. The drone party will be over soon.
Re:Going voyeur... (Score:5, Insightful)
This.
This motherfucker wants one thing: Attention.
He'll get it by way of violence or litigation.
People have expectations of privacy. How many videos does he have of people NOT having sex in a vehicle?
A victim's lawyer is going to file for discovery and get every piece of fucking technology under this asshole's control and lock him up for every minor he's peeked at.
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If he generates one cent of revenue then it's commercial use. That usually requires extra permits/qualifications, which I doubt he has.
In any case it's only a matter of time before he pisses off the wrong person and ends up with various body parts being shoved into the rotors.
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It's not an issue of morality; it's an issue of legality. Prostitution is illegal in most states.
Vigilantism is illegal in most states too.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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It's not an issue of morality; it's an issue of legality. Prostitution is illegal in most states.
Vigilantism is illegal in most states too. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Vigilantism is when people take the law into their own hands and try to punish people themselves. All this guy is doing is gathering evidence and turning it over to the police. That's not illegal.
Re:Going voyeur... (Score:5, Interesting)
Vigilantism is when people take the law into their own hands and try to punish people themselves. All this guy is doing is gathering evidence and turning it over to the police. That's not illegal.
Seeking out criminal actions is, indeed, illegal in most states. Depending on the state, neighborhood watches, for example, can patrol an area, but not look for crime. And PIs can be restricted to having to abort investigations and report to the police if they have reasonable belief that there is a crime, without being allowed to gather evidence of it.
And there's little doubt that a private individual who actively goes looking for crime with the intent of getting people punished is indeed doing vigilantism, acting in the capacity of law enforcement without the authority.
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Seeking out criminal actions is, indeed, illegal in most states.
Citation please?
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He's not going to find one, he probably doesn't even know about Phoenix Jones.
Re:Going voyeur... (Score:5, Informative)
Some states also have very strict laws against investigating suspected animal abuse in the meat industry - the lobbying is strong on that issue. After a series of scandals in which horrific conditions in farming and slaughtering food animals were exposed, the industry responded by pushing for 'ag-gag' laws to deter any further activists from trying to sneak a camera in.
Re:Going voyeur... (Score:5, Insightful)
Did you even read TFS? Because you apparently missed this part:
Bates runs a website where he publishes videos of alleged sex workers and their clients. "I am openly referred to as a video vigilante, I don't really shy away from that," says Bates
So he's not just turning over evidence to the police, he's actively publishing it, presumably to name and shame people he thinks are involved in an illegal act of prostitution. He doesn't investigate whether it's actually prostitution, or whether it's just a loving couple. Then he happily agrees to being a vigilante himself.
Re:Going voyeur... (Score:4, Insightful)
Yet he didn't choose to use his drone to catch people breaking domestic battery laws or illegal hunting laws or animal abuse laws and so on -- he chose to catch people breaking that one law that's strikes a nerve in him somewhere. That nerve was almost 100% likely pinched by his sense of morality and the sexual issues he has like most people do (an exception may be if prostitution was causing fights or something in his neighbourhood, doesn't sound like it), so the parent was quite likely spot on.
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No that simple. Various laws against certain sexual practices were abolished on the argument, that enforcing them requires police to violate people's privacy. For example, in the Bowers vs. Hardwick [wikipedia.org] — last heard in 2003 — a Supreme Justice accused his fellow justices (back in 1986) of (emphasis mine):
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It is less about legality as it is enforcement. We already have concerns about the steps police take to enforce the law with surveillance. I really can't see getting up in arms about police wanting cameras everywhere and then some dolt essentially harassing others in the name of the law. That shit won't fly when the cops try to pull it, and it certainly won't fly for someone hiding their grudge behind being a good citizen. If history is any guide, these overt acts are usually hiding some interesting things
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If you disagree with the law, you can write to your state representative and suggest he/she vote to change the law.
Your suggestion works quite well when the letter to one's masters includes a 7- or 8-figure check. Otherwise, one might as well shake his fist and shout at the sky - it'll have just as much effect on public policy.
Re: Going voyeur... (Score:5, Funny)
You've obviously never heard of jurt nullification.
The old Mongolian saying that what happens in the jurt, stays in the jurt?
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The old Mongolian saying that what happens in the jurt, stays in the jurt?
Pinning your hopes on jury nullification is like buying a ticket in the Tri-State Lotto and dreaming about how you'll retire to the life of a billionaire when you win that big cash prize. Your case won't even go to a jury unless there is some remaining factual dispute that gives them room for maneuver.
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if a law has no basis in morality, it is unjust. "One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
So, Boko Haram considers it immoral for girls to learn to read, because that's the way Allah wants it. So they kill the teachers and take the girls, selling them as sex slaves. But their morality says that's what they must do. Would you support the laws they would like to see put in place, given they have a strong moral backing?
No?
Right, because what you said is nonsense. Unless you qualify "moral" by explaining the underlying premises and means by which that particular moral code is derived from the
Re:Going voyeur... (Score:5, Insightful)
That's a separate crime that has nothing to do with the sex work. Human trafficking and slavery are already illegal. No reason to make consensual sex workers criminals too.
Re:Going voyeur... (Score:5, Insightful)
Wish I had mod points. In areas where they have made prostitution legal or at least decriminalised it, statistics have shown lower rates of domestic abuse, violent crime, and STD's. Plus, they enjoy an increase in tax revenue because a formerly illicit occupation can have its workers brought into the mainstream economy to pay taxes. The degree to which some people are so concerned about others' genitals is most irrational.
Concerning your enlightened comment about conflating prostitution and sex trafficking, the same logical fallacy is committed with regards to homosexuality and paedophilia. In the minds of many, someone who is gay must be a raving child molestor who has designs on their young kids. The vast majority of homosexuals are of course as equally horrified by child molestation as most heterosexuals are, but moralists can't be bothered with facts and logic. And I suspect that moralism is an example of psychological overcompensation to mask some repressed tendency in the one passing judgement on others.
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That is a tired old lie and has no connection to the facts. The only thing this myth serves is to justify sticking it to the prostitutes and to justify state-sponsored violence against them. You are vile.
Re:Not so much about morality (Score:5, Insightful)
Most prostitutes these days are virtually, or literally, slaves. They are often kidnapped or trafficked into the US. They are then beaten into submission by their pimps until they no longer resist, and then sold to men on the streets.
You can provide some references beyond hysterical news stories? My guess that there is some of this, but far more is drug addiction related. As well, if you read Dan Savage, you probably know that there are willing "sex workers" as well.
Re:Not so much about morality (Score:5, Insightful)
You can provide some references beyond hysterical news stories? My guess that there is some of this, but far more is drug addiction related. As well, if you read Dan Savage, you probably know that there are willing "sex workers" as well.
No, likely they can't. It's because the core point of their statement is false. Most prostitutes are women from within the country they live in, and have lived there all their lives. Not saying that it doesn't happen, it does, but in those instances where the women and men are in those circumstances they usually operate out of a bawdy house or something along those lines.
Something that a lot of people don't understand either is that you'll find prostitutes very law abiding at least here in Canada. If they're picked up, they'll have their surety posted as soon as they know what it'll be and they'll show up for their court cases. They'll also snitch on other prostitutes and pimps who are selling drugs or engaged in other things in those lines.
Re:Not so much about morality (Score:5, Informative)
Here are some references. The US State Department estimates about 21 million human trafficking victims, of which about 20% are forced into the sex trade.
https://blogs.state.gov/storie... [state.gov]
http://www.unicef.org/protecti... [unicef.org]
https://www.dhs.gov/blue-campa... [dhs.gov]
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"Here are some references. The US State Department estimates about 21 million human trafficking victims, of which about 20% are forced into the sex trade."
So 80% enter it willingly? I think you need to look up the definition of "most".
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I think you need to reread that. Of the 21 million human trafficking victims, 20% are forced into the sex trade. What happens to the other 80% - whether they're forced into domestic service, as labor elsewhere, or turned into soylent green, is not specified.
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"Estimate", my ass. "Guesstimate informed by religious" fanaticism is more like it.
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He cannot as even drug-related prostitution is only a small faction. Most doing it are just women (and some men) thinking it provides a decent paycheck given their skills.
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You can provide some references beyond hysterical news stories? My guess that there is some of this, but far more is drug addiction related. As well, if you read Dan Savage, you probably know that there are willing "sex workers" as well.
I live in a place where prostitution is legal. I'm a regular customer (it's quite normal here) and you'd be surprised how normal a lot of these women are. Uni students paying their way through school, Divorcees paying the mortgage, young girls earning extra money for a big holiday overseas etc.
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Most prostitutes these days are virtually, or literally, slaves. They are often kidnapped or trafficked into the US. They are then beaten into submission by their pimps until they no longer resist, and then sold to men on the streets. Regardless of your views on the morality of prostitution, I would hope we can agree that sex-slavery is evil.
I find real sex slavery to be as morally objectionable as other kinds of real slavery. That's why I don't like the laws against prostitution or the wretched pricks like Brian Bates that help to enforce them. Note that there are basically no slaves in the sex industry of The Netherlands, even if you throw in bullshit qualifiers like "virtually".
Re:Not so much about morality (Score:5, Insightful)
Tony, that's just not true.
http://www.alternet.org/story/... [alternet.org]
Re:Not so much about morality (Score:5, Insightful)
That's worldwide, Tony. We're talking about the United States here.
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That would require some understanding of numbers. He obviously does not have that.
Re: Not so much about morality (Score:4, Insightful)
When the demand is illegal, the supply will be illegal. This is something so obvious that even you should be able to comprehend it.
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Simple politeness. I learned it before there was an internet and it's a hard habit to break.
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Re:Not so much about morality (Score:5, Interesting)
Most prostitutes these days are virtually, or literally, slaves.
Not true. Most prostitutes work because they need the money, and are not otherwise coerced.
They are often kidnapped or trafficked into the US.
False. Only a near-zero number of sex workers are "trafficked" into the US. "Sex trafficking" is mostly hysteria [washingtonpost.com] used by law enforcement to justify bloated budgets. It is nearly non-existent in America.
They are then beaten into submission by their pimps
Wrong again. Prostitutes with pimps are less likely to be victims of violence. They also make more money, even after paying their pimp, than women working solo. Some groups of prostitutes will team up and hire a pimp, boosting both their safety and income. Source: SuperFreakonomics [wikipedia.org].
Coercion, violence, trafficking, etc. are not reasons to make prostitution illegal. They are the result of making it illegal.
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It is incorrect to conflate prostitution and human trafficking. Even if every street-prostitute could be shown to be willingly engaged, that does not mean that there isn't a separate market for people kidnapped against their will. I doubt I could back this up with statistics because of the nature of the crime. People get estranged from their families and disappear into cults like scientology and EST/landmark-education never to be heard from again. I lived in a house where the owners were involved in EST and one of them went missing, abandoning her dog and belongings in Texas. She was spotted in NM and the only evidence afterward was cryptic blog post about "finding her new home". Case unsolved.
http://www.inquisitr.com/50063... [inquisitr.com]
There are reports about attempted kidnappings of children every couple days in LA. What do you think the purpose of those kidnappings is?
I have run into 'traveling magazine sales vans' since I was a teenager hanging out in places that I probably shouldn't have. I once told them I would join up and had them give a ride across town. I just jumped out and bolted into the woods instead of going to pick up my stuff like I had told them. I knew it was some scammy shit but I thought I was invincible at the time, so I was just trying to get a free taxi ride. These people learn to spot victims that have fallen through the cracks of society.
http://america.aljazeera.com/a... [aljazeera.com]
http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_s... [typepad.com]
The most valuable thing for a good portion of humanity is sex, especially for people who already have plenty of money. I have heard stories from Mexican girls in East LA about being sold back and forth between gang members for thousands of dollars. They don't even try and report it to the police because they think no one will believe them. Gangs or cults have made it into a profession to control every aspect of a person's life. The street term for someone marked for sale is a "barbie doll". There is a lot more to the criminal underworld than what makes it to the police blotter.
They are conflated--trafficking is a source of women who are prostituted against their will and don't see a way out. It is common for men to purchase sex with trafficking victims and never have a clue the person is coerced.
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Trafficking (Score:2)
Most prostitutes these days are virtually, or literally, slaves.
Not true. Most prostitutes work because they need the money, and are not otherwise coerced.
"Most" isn't really the question. The question is whether it happens enough that it is a problem. It does. The figures for the US are relatively low, in the tens of thousands. In-country trafficking is also a problem--abusing an at-risk use and offering them attention and the illusion of caring and then putting them on the corner and telling them to earn money.
They are often kidnapped or trafficked into the US.
False. Only a near-zero number of sex workers are "trafficked" into the US. "Sex trafficking" is mostly hysteria [washingtonpost.com] used by law enforcement to justify bloated budgets. It is nearly non-existent in America.
Not true at all. Law enforcement budgets have nothing to do with it--most law enforcement agencies don't even recognize human trafficking when t
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Coercion, violence, trafficking, etc. are not reasons to make prostitution illegal. They are the result of making it illegal.
+1, wishing I had mod points.
As Ed McMahon would say, 'You, sir, are correct!' Most people make the logical fallacy of flipping causality. They forget the lesson of Prohibition in the US. Alcohol was forced underground, making much of it poisonous swill that made imbibers go blind or suffer other maladies, as well as causing a vast increase in organised crime. Making prostitution legal would deny criminal syndicates of a bunch of money, and its regulation would cause an increase in welfare both for the pro
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I'm sure you can find some slaves, but I'd like to see some evidence for the 'most.' The economics just doesn't work out: Trafficking is a risky and expensive proposition that requires an elaborate criminal network. Simply hiring local labor is surely a cheaper option - it's not as if most countries are lacking in unemployed women who are desperate for a job.
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Most prostitutes these days are virtually, or literally, slaves. They are often kidnapped or trafficked into the US. They are then beaten into submission by their pimps until they no longer resist, and then sold to men on the streets. Regardless of your views on the morality of prostitution, I would hope we can agree that sex-slavery is evil.
Sex-slavery is evil, yes.
That's one reason prostitution should be legalized and regulated everywhere in the United States. If the government can guarantee that legal prostitutes are disease-free, of legal age, and legally protected, then those prostitutes wouldn't have to stand on street corners, nor do blow jobs inside of cars with perfect strangers (which exponentially increases the risks they're undertaking).
And regardless of your views on the morality of prostitution, or regardless of your possible pers
Then legalize and regulate fucking for money (Score:2)
The misery in the sex industry is not because of the sex, the misery is because of the illegality of sex for hire and the Hobbesian circumstances it produces. Legalizing and regulating would allow a significant portion of the market to be liberated from the misery-inducing circumstances associated with sex for money.
Sex for money isn't inherently unjust if the participants aren't coerced into it by anything more than the need for money (a need we all have, those of us not having sex for money merely trade
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Interestingly, evidence from western countries where prostitution is legal, says exactly the opposite: Almost all prostitutes are free agents working for themselves. Ones that are forced into the trade by others are so exceptionally rare as to be virtually non-existent.
Please keep your deranged fantasies to yourself.
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That's because prostitution is illegal in too many places. This is no different than the violent crime spawned by the War on Drugs. You seem to have cause and effect confused; just as the morality police want you to.
Re: Human Trafficking (Score:3, Insightful)
And attention seeking self righteous moralizers trying to put people in jail solves what, exactly?
Let's assume for a minute that everyone who works as a prostitute does so unwillingly (which is bullshit). The people committing the crimes of slavery, violence, etc. are not the ones caught up in this vigilante's stupid campaign.
nothing better to do, huh (Score:5, Insightful)
used a video camera to document street-level and forced prostitution, and human trafficking.
One of these is not like the others.
I doubt he caught a lot of human trafficking or forced prostitution on camera. The article certainly doesn't mention any.
Re:nothing better to do, huh (Score:5, Interesting)
But, like the war on drugs, the prohibition favors the entrenched interests.
Re:nothing better to do, huh (Score:4, Interesting)
Most (not all, as in severe rape and snuff kink and underage) human trafficking will go away if prostitution were legal.
No, that's not substantiated. It's actually the opposite.
https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking/
Alternative ways of making money (Score:2, Insightful)
If unable to have consensual sex for money with a lonely 75-year-old, Zolicoffer can no doubt fall back on more socially acceptable occupations like muggings or pushing drugs outside school. Besides, how is one to know whether a 27-year-old woman is making a voluntary choice to have sex. Sex outside marriage needs to be made illegal (as in Saudi Arabia) to ensure that no woman is ever pressured into sex against her will. The loophole of a woman providing sexual favors without charging money for it needs to
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For the benefit of other sarcasm impaired readers:
Nobody likes a tattle-tale (Score:2)
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This guy seems like a nosey neighbor that everyone else on the block hates.
Obviously, the question is if they're mainly exposing illegal activity, witnessing hypocrisy or just trying to poke their nose where it doesn't belong. We know a lot of people don't practice what they preach, they say one thing in public and do something else in secret. Somehow I find it's completely different to expose the priest who has been spouting hate speech about homosexuals having gay sex than a random teen who doesn't want their parents to know he's gay.
The truth is that the law is often more ideal
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No, by calling things that are not rape "rape" you are cheapening the word until it is meaningless and everyone just starts ignoring you.
More at The Smoking Gun... (Score:2)
More here... [thesmokinggun.com]
In unrelated news (Score:2)
In unrelated news, police agencies buy more and more drones. Not to worry though -- they assure us our privacy will be respected.
Please ... (Score:2)
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This wasn't done in view of the public. The man is a self-rightous prostitute-hunter - and he had to resort to a drone in this case in order to get close enough without being noticed.
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Someone else kindly provided a link to the video [thesmokinggun.com]. (Skip to 4:30 or so to see the couple in question). From the looks of it, while the couple may have been on private property it wasn't their property. For all intents and purposes, they were indeed in full view of the public.
While a pile of old tires can provide some level o
What gives him or the video legal standing? (Score:3)
I'm sure (Score:2)
I'm sure that he thoroughly investigates each person to make sure that they are really a person using the services of a prostitute before posting the video.
And how does posting a video of an alleged prostitute help them escape their life if you claim that they are a victim? Posting a video which will stay online and get them arrested will just keep them where they are. How about offering assistance to make a change in their life?
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If I were him I'd be a lot more worried he videotaped the wrong meth dealer/cook, it being Oklahoma and all.
You are right that Batman keeps his identity shrouded for a reason...
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His full first and last name has been plastered all over the place for years now. He's been very visible and public in his campaign. Nobody has taken any action against him.
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a conviction resulting in a prison term can prohibit you from ever getting a job...
Close, but not exactly. This is where the distinction between misdemeanor vs. felony comes into play. Misdemeanors (jail time up to 1 year) typically do not result in forfeiture of civil rights (you still get to vote) but may result in loss of privileges (as in losing your taxi license from a misdemeanor recless driving conviction). Felonies (any jail time over 1 year), on the other hand, you are absolutely right, these re
Give a man a fish... (Score:4, Funny)
Give a man a porno, and he can pleasure himself for a day, teach a man to fly a drone and he can pleasure himself for a lifetime.
Relax. That problem's gonna solve itself (Score:5, Insightful)
At some point, some John's going to get pissed enough about this because he's getting divorced and loses everything that he rids the world of the asshole and everything's back to normal.
Remember kids: If the law fails to solve problems, people will.
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At some point, some John's going to get pissed enough about this because he's getting divorced and loses everything that he rids the world of the asshole and everything's back to normal.
Remember kids: If the law fails to solve problems, people will.
Sad to say, that's absolutely correct.
And over what? It might come as a surprise to the lad, but people have sex.
Whether it is your violent scenario, or even more likely, now that he is gaining some notoriety, he is going to get a lot of attention from the media. There will be peopel looking into every part of his life.
People who do this sort of thing often tend to have some issues themselves. I've seen it all of my life, with gay bashing friends who are now gay, with family value politicians who tu
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If the law fails to solve problems, people will.
I think you jumped right over the irony puddle there. The law apparently wasn't taking care of the illegal prostitution enough for this guy, and he (one of the people) took action to "solve" the problem.
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Everyone needs a hobby... (Score:2)
Any bets? (Score:2)
The pattern repeats. (Score:2)
Spying on neighbours, employing covert monitoring technology, publicly humiliating those he dislikes and having them hauled off to jail when he is able. Once again we see that few are so unconstrained by morality as those who honestly believe they are doing the right thing.
He probably honestly believes that he has 'saved' the prostitute now. She has been freed from her life of indignity and sin and released into the loving care of the US state prison system, where she can start her new life as an unemployab
privacy concerns? (Score:2)
The problem here isn't with drones. Nobody would give a fuck about these videos. The problem is that a consensual human activity, namely prostitution, has been made illegal. The fix for that isn't to restrict drones further, it is to get rid of laws banning prostitution.
Wait a minute... (Score:2)
A Peeping John lures on a vehicle "away from other members of the public", gets off what happens in there, that happening becomes public and the guy is not charged with intrusion of privacy?
Twisted world for sure...
Prostitutes are his target? (Score:4, Interesting)
Bankers broke US' economy throwing into misery hundreds of thousands, but he thought he'll make justice by putting in jail people who actually work for their money, people who actually provide a useful service to the community?
Americans' moral compass is just whack.
I'll say it again. (Score:2)
The whole hypocritical puritanical streak that runs through this country makes me wish the first settlers here had been porn stars.
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Well, we know he Bates...