New P2P Torrent Site 'Play' Has No Single Point of Failure (thestack.com) 72
An anonymous reader writes: Play, a new peer-to-peer (P2P) site for downloading torrents, is practically impossible to shut down and promises to be the latest technology to revolutionise online downloads. The platform has appeared recently across ZeroNet, a Budapest-based open source site which is looking to offer a home to decentralised platforms which employ Bitcoin-crypto and BitTorrent technologies. As no central server exists, every additional user is a further point of connection inside the network, helping to avoid potential failures. As the first torrent site to appear on the network, Play can be accessed directly through a ZeroNet URL (only available with the tool installed). The site serves magnetic links sourced from RARBG, with which users can download films, series and other media files, in varying qualities. While ZeroNet itself is not an illegal platform, Play is identical to any other P2P download site in that it could face legal challenges over violating copyright.
Not single point of failure... (Score:2)
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It's more like hydra.
What, quite interesting and scary in the movies, but a bit lame and shallow on the TV show?
Here's how it works! (Score:1)
0net [google.com]
how? (Score:2)
I don't understand this claim. Now once a torrent is streaming there is no single point of failure by virtue of the P2P aspect. But for people to find a torrent node with their desired item there needs to be some sort of directory. Historically it has been the directories that get shutdown. So how does this solve that problem? You can't just say the nodes serve the directory can you? because it some point someone needs a definitive entry point or well known fixed set of points, so it can be found to
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So how is this "ZeroNet" thing different from Freenet?
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It's new, so the media hasn't had time to scream "PEDOPHILES! PEDOPHILES!" yet in order to drive people back to the "safer"(snooped) internet.
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It's new, so the media hasn't had time to scream "PEDOPHILES! PEDOPHILES!" yet in order to drive people back to the "safer"(snooped) internet.
No, not quite.
Your response implies that ZeroNet provides a layer of anonymity. With traditional P2P, it is still quite easy to detect who is downloading/uploading the content. ZeroNet makes it harder to shutdown the catalog/index/directory/metadata, since everyone shares it. As soon as someone requests the actual data, it is feasible for certain parties to de-anonymize them.
Freenet, OTOH, provides some anonymity since each node hosts a portion of the actual content. Furthermore, it is not possible to contr
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Your explanation is self refferential. How does one find zeronet without an gateway URL? And if there is one then it can be shut down. Sure I beleive one could host a torrent list as a torrent. but if you can't figure out how to join that torrent community then it's a closed set.
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We will see. Worst comes to worse, Microsoft will be pressured into collecting data from machines, and if the telemetry data is blocked or it shows communication with P2P torrent sites, the activation of Windows would be pulled from that machine, or the box would be flagged so any accounts (Steam, Blizzard) would be insta-banned.
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We will see. Worst comes to worse, Microsoft will be pressured into collecting data from machines, and if the telemetry data is blocked or it shows communication with P2P torrent sites, the activation of Windows would be pulled from that machine, or the box would be flagged so any accounts (Steam, Blizzard) would be insta-banned.
Yeah, good idea. Speaking as someone who has been spending what? Hopefully under $2000 on games, comics and books through bundle sites and what not the last three years or so and close to not use the content and who don't download shit - yeah - great idea to ban me if I did! Just great!
Because that will earn you more money! .. Not.
Also true for Microsoft of course (Score:1)
... of course what I said above is also true for Microsoft.
Have they ever done anything about piracy? Isn't wild piracy something which keep/kept them being the undisputed #1 when it come to operating-systems? Had Microsoft just somehow banned me I would of course use something else, how is that good business for Microsoft? It make no sense at all.
Of course good (heavy and "uncrackable") DRM could had worked for Microsoft if they could also regionally lock down the pricing and usage somehow (by language?),
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RARBG is the single point of failure then?
This is also how I understand the thing. However the problem is considered, new users must use some entry point, and that will always be a SPOF.
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They're sharing Debian ISOs without making a profit?!
MEDIC!
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Well, I suspect it will be getting a stress test. (Score:2)
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Wouldn't Slashdot users running nodes make the whole thing stronger?
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That's not a violation (Score:1)
"Play is identical to any other P2P download site in that it could face legal challenges over violating copyright."
Torrent download sites do not host any copyrighted content and don't violate any copyright agreement. They were prosecuted for that in the past because hollywood enforcers do not care about the difference between hosting files and hosting links that connect you to other users who share the files with you, which is perfectly legal everywhere. Obviously laws or democratic procedures have no place
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That might have been true 15 years ago.
Nowadays, if a user can click something on your website and at the end of some process, be watching a movie, then whatever your website did that kicked that process off is contributory copyright infringement. Doesn't matter if you don't host the movie or copyrighted data yourself, or you're just pointing to a link, or a hash, or a picture containing some cunningly steganographied data that can be decoded into a pointer to a torrent. Whatever informatical version of a R
If anybody wants to have a look (Score:5, Informative)
There are also public web proxies [zero.pags.to] to view (and also post) without installing anything
More zeronet websites [zero.pags.to]
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There is always a single point of failure (Score:1)
It's called an ISP
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You're generally not limited to using just one ISP.
I have used two for 15 years now.
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It must be nice to live in a capitalist country with a market economy, unlike the United States.
Actually... I live in a rural area, and I use Satellite (Wildblue) as my main connection, in addition to using my phone as a 4G tether for DR reasons (I barely use 1GB/mo on the phone anyway, so I have bags of spare bandwidth for any outage on the main sat. connection.) It's slower than most (12Mbps at best on the sat), but ironically, it still runs a shitload faster than Comcast on any given weekday evening (at least once you discount the lag - FPS gaming is out, but torrents? That would be no sweat).
Simil
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It must be nice to live in a capitalist country with a market economy, unlike the United States.
I live in the United States.
But I realise that many if not most industrialised countries have far more choices. And I also realise that this isn't due to a market economy, but regulations that prevent monopolies and oligopolies from forming. Unregulated market economies will always converge to monopolies. Regulations preventing this is important.
So is regulation that prevents players from entering the field unless they are willing to accept smaller losses with bigger gains, like being required to provide
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Getting you economics from Marx?
Nobody else believes that.
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Nobody else believes that.
Sure, if you live a perfect world without corruption/lobbying
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Blah blah.
The fact remains that GGP is a fucking red or is influence by their fallacies without knowing it (likely had a credulous red teacher). Same as you.
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Revolutionize Online Downloads? (Score:2)
magnetic links ? (Score:2)
"The site serves magnetic links sourced from RARBG"
What does that mean?
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RARBG is a group that relases tv shows and movies.
Re:magnetic links ? (Score:4, Informative)
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Nobody knows how they fucking work.
AD (Score:1)
PopcornTime! (Score:1)
Am I the only one who saw that? (Score:1)
As the first torrent site to appear on the network, Play can be accessed directly through a ZeroNet URL (only available with the tool installed).
"Only available with the tool installed"? OK, so the ZeroNet tool is installed, it's open source (good), multiple platforms (cool) and it uses bitcoin cryptography to, and I quote the ZeroNet website: "Your account is protected by same cryptography as your Bitcoin wallet".
Riiiiiiiiiiight. The same Bitcoin wallet that was cracked recently [slashdot.org]? Oh, and by the way, it only protects your IP address if you go through the Tor network. You mean, the same Tor network that was successfully attacked by researchers [slashdot.org]?
And th
Re:Am I the only one who saw that? (Score:5, Insightful)
Bitcoin wallets aren't cracked. Unless you're an idiot and chose a Bitcoin wallet that's easily guessable (like choosing a password of password). The default Bitcoin wallets are just fine and cryptographically secure.
The Tor network may have been "attacked". But short of having 50% of nodes under your control, you can't guarantee anything and the best attack is still a timing / correlation attack by monitoring both ends of a transaction (so presumably you don't NEED to know anything more than that anyway, if you've got that far) that pretty much NOTHING can stop.
Stop getting your tech news from overblown headlines and look into... the tech. If Bitcoin wallets were "cracked", there would be billions of dollars lost overnight. That's not what happened. A handful of people deliberately choosing to use the equivalent of "123456" for a Bitcoin wallet key may have lost their money. That's it. And people using certain monitored elements of Tor where they are giving away their own IP, or the service they connect to is giving away it's IP, allowing silly attacks due to poor configurations (nothing can stop the stupid) may have given away more information than they knew.
Otherwise, the sensible users of the systems using them what they were designed for have carried on completely unhindered. The systems both worked, as designed.
"There, fixed that for you" (Score:1)
Play is similar to any other internet site in that it could face legal challenges over violating copyright.
There, fixed that for you.
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Play is identical to any other P2P download site in that it could face legal challenges over violating copyright.
a little ominous... (Score:2)
FTA:
As no central server exists, every additional user is a further point of connection inside the network, helping to avoid potential failures. If one of the connections fails, this does not necessarily compromise the entire downloads platform.
So...the 'user' goes dark? I know, I know, the user's connection goes dark...but for some reason the phasing tickled the morbid elf in me, picturing users keeling over at their consoles while the network perseveres... :)
"Given the colossal assemblage of stars in the universe, who is to notice when one flares and dies? Does the night sky lose luster, will the frantic twinkle of other stars pause in solemn contemplation of their fallen brother? Or does the cosmic ballet continue unabated, save for an i
"Page response time is not limited by your..." (Score:1)
"Page response time is not limited by your connection speed " [imgur.com]
So what are they trying to get at here -- that it's like Akamai? Because this just sounds like marketing drivel.