San Francisco Bay Area In Superbowl Surveillance Mode (wired.com) 95
An anonymous reader links to Wired's description of a surveillance society in miniature assembling right now in San Francisco: Super Bowl 50 will be big in every way. A hundred million people will watch the game on TV. Over the next ten days, 1 million people are expected to descend on the San Francisco Bay Area for the festivities. And, according to the FBI, 60 federal, state, and local agencies are working together to coordinate surveillance and security at what is the biggest national security event of the year.
Previous year's Superbowl security measures have included WMD sensors, database-backed facial recognition, and gamma-ray vehicle scanners. Given the fears and cautions in the air about this year's contest, it's easy to guess that the scanning and sensing will be even more prevalent this time.
Previous year's Superbowl security measures have included WMD sensors, database-backed facial recognition, and gamma-ray vehicle scanners. Given the fears and cautions in the air about this year's contest, it's easy to guess that the scanning and sensing will be even more prevalent this time.
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I've heard the nest is infected with worms!
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Gama rays are like everything else (lasers, microwaves, sunlight, water, etc), only really bad if you get too much of them. At the level these scanners work at they are completely safe.. - - A minute statistical danger, that is in reality totally irrelevant.
They read one Tom Clancy novel (Score:1)
And then they lose all sense of proportion.
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And then they lose all sense of proportion.
At least the game isn't in Denver....
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And then they lose all sense of proportion.
At least the game isn't in Denver....
Goodbye California from Alistair McLean is an interesting read if the game is in SFO...
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That's something at least. The game's not in San Francisco. We don't even have a football team or stadium anymore, after all.
That doesn't stop us form absorbing more than out share of the BS and headaches. And even worse, those nitwits in City Hall let the city get fleeced by the NFL. Santa Clara, at least, got it written into their contract that the NFL has to pay for all of their expenses. Ed Lee didn't bother to insist on a similar clause for San Francisco, so we're on the hook for all of the costs.
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At least they're reading Tom Clancy novels now. As opposed to being surprised by some obviousish things:
It's not TSA-level security theater (Score:5, Interesting)
Given the popularity of the sport and this game, it has to have occurred to those with a bone to pick versus the Americans what a powerful blow this would be.
The big question is, "Have the anti-UAV defenses been employed?"
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and they'll hit you low while you're looking up?
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London Olympics had missiles! (Score:1)
Well at least its not as bad as the London Olympics, where a civil servant named Charles Farr decided that anti-aircraft missiles would be installed on the tops of houses. As if anyone would shoot down a plane over London in case a hijacked plane came crashing down over London! It was pure "be afraid" theater.
When you get these security shows, they're usually trying to push some legislation at the same time.
For the Summer Olympics of 2012 was happening, Theresa May was trying to push through Snoopers Charte
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Indeed. That's why it was forbidden on pain of court-martial for the RAF to shoot at Boche Heinkels in WW2.
Oh, hang on. It wasn't and you're full of shit.
Re:It's not TSA-level security theater (Score:4, Funny)
"Given the popularity of the sport and this game, it has to have occurred to those with a bone to pick versus the Americans what a powerful blow this would be."
In this world there is religion, fundamentalist religion, and the Super Bowl. Perhaps the only reason why such an attack has not taken place is that everyone knows it would result in the immediate erasure of the Middle East. All of it.
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Don't worry--even if a christian does it, we'll make up a link [wikipedia.org].
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In this world there is religion, fundamentalist religion, and the Super Bowl. Perhaps the only reason why such an attack has not taken place is that everyone knows it would result in the immediate erasure of the Middle East. All of it.
Are you a Football fan? If religious nuts attacked sporting nuts, my reaction would be similar those soccer riots in the UK. Team A hates Team B and something bad happened, who cares, they're all idiots.
Really, sport is fun to watch sometimes, but the people who treat it like fundamentalist religion deserve the same fate...
Re: It's not TSA-level security theater (Score:1)
Something, something, something, terrorists, something....
The only thing I see is massive amounts of public money being wasted on security for a for-profit event. Most of it isn't even security--it's just a chance for a bunch of agencies to attempt to remain relevant by engaging in scare tactics on a grand scale.
What an utter waste of money and resources. I'd say the resources could be put to better use, but where DHS is involved I'd rather see no use at all.
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Oh yeah, you ACs are probably all just trying to convince us to let our guard down. Die you nazi swine!
Re:It's not TSA-level security theater (Score:5, Insightful)
You know, it occurs to me that if some radical group really wanted to cause havoc at the Super Bowl they could. But they won't and it's not because of the security theater. It's because if such a thing were to occur the outrage would be so great that our politicians would be forced to act upon it. Every plane, every ship, every gun would be pointed squarely at those responsible and in a matter of days we could wipe them from the face of the earth.
Instead they engage in attacks that are much smaller in scale. Their objective is not to kill everyone. Their objective is to strike fear into everyone. And these smaller scale attacks are very successful at that. Not only that, it gives politicians cover by allowing them to claim that these are "isolated incidents" and not large scale attacks. Such is the nature of guerrilla warfare.
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He's probably the cheapest.
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He's training his Chinese replacement.
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He's training his Chinese replacement.
Heh!
Thank goodness for that. If they'd been Indian, BIZx would likely be a Disney shell.
They slipped (Score:4, Funny)
"Previous year's Superbowl security measures have included WMD sensors, database-backed facial recognition, and gamma-ray vehicle scanners."
All that and still they couldn't stop Janet Jackson's nipple.
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That's because they didn't have database-backed nipple recognition.
Mossad (Score:1, Insightful)
Keep an eye out for those pesky Mossad agents posing as Arabs and staging false flag attacks.
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You mean soccer?
I've tried watching it...and BOOOORING.
Just back and forth, hardly any scoring, no serious risk of someone getting a concussion or something broken....
And for the life of me, how the fuck do they figure the time and when a game is over?
I tried watching that last go around where the US did fairly well in it...game was about to be over and...
OH wait...for no explainable
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I've tried watching it...and BOOOORING.
Just back and forth, hardly any scoring, no serious risk of someone getting a concussion or something broken....
Yeh the back and forth of soccer is pretty boring - except when compared against the 11 minutes of actual gameplay [wsj.com] in your typical three hour American football match.
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I tried watching that last go around where the US did fairly well in it...game was about to be over and...OH wait...for no explainable reason, we're gonna add another 12 minutes to the game...
Actually, as an American football fan, I have to admit I think it's pretty entertaining.
In football, you have a visible clock. They stop it for out-of-bounds, incomplete passes, penalties, etc. When it gets down to zero? Game over.
In soccer, the refs keep track of how much time is spent on things like corner kicks, throw-ins, penalty kicks, and the like. So when the clock hits zero, that's when they announce how much time was spent.
It adds an entertaining element to the game--you have little idea how mu
planet 'Murika (Score:2)
Err hell, just go right to Championship of the Universe. It's not like anybody else bothers to play the game.
queue up Hollywood treatment where the best of the NFL have to stave of an alien invasion by beating them at American Football. Unfortunately, Bert Reynolds is probably unavailable.
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They already do. [patriots.com]
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It's in the US constitution: all foreigners count as 1/10th of a person.
Re:100 million ? Yeah right. (Score:4, Insightful)
The population of the US is 318 million, which,last I looked, was far greater than the 100 million expected viewers of the Super Bowl. Also, the World Series, which happens in October, is baseball, and the Super Bowl, which happens in February, is American football. So, if you are not a troll, you are an idiot.
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If the population of the US is 318 million, and most of the people I know won't be watching the SuperBowl, how much should I believe their 100 million estimate?
For that matter, how could they know even afterwards? I can imagine some way to track the number of TVs that were tuned in, but most of those don't have built-in spy devices yet.
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Nielson is still a thing, you know.
And I guess I kind of assumed that cable boxes and satellite receivers phoned home statistical data.
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That's number of TVs, not number of viewers. And I've always been quite dubious about Nielson.
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If you want to world series to live up to their name, maybe, just maybe, you should invite other countries, no ?
Like Canada? [mlb.com]
And in 2 years (Score:2, Offtopic)
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would just walk or run out into the road without looking
They are just trying to stay on top of their game. What better way to practice dodging and flynching? If you can avoid a car, you should be able to avoid a linebacker :-)
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Gamma-ray vehicle scanners (Score:1)
So they're searching people's cars in a way which could potentially knock DNA around and cause cancer?
Meh (Score:1)
I'm not as bothered by the surveillance due to the fact that people can just opt out by not going / purchasing tickets, and it's a completely entertainment event. However, the gamma-ray scanners are troubling because cancer is a larger cost on society, and if these things cause an uptick, that's a delayed cost in potentially millions of dollars (hundreds of thousands minimum per affected individual).
Translation... (Score:2)
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It seems absurd to me. The game is just a few hours on Sunday. So who cares about all the stuff happening during the week?
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So who cares about all the stuff happening during the week?
A lot of private and commercial aircraft will be flying in before and after the game. Not all those planes will be parking at San Jose International airport. The early birds will park locally. Everyone else will have to haul ass over the mountains from outlying regional airports.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/business/ci_29446013/bay-area-airports-brace-an-onslaught-commercial-private [insidebayarea.com]
This is all for show (Score:1)
And anyone with a brain knows none of it would stop a determined bad guy.
However it is good practice for keeping law abiding citizens under control. And that's what is really going
on here.
It's a training ground for suppressing civil unrest.
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I'm sure that the radioactive material sensors can detect some percentage of people who try to make a dirty bomb. Maybe most of them. I don't really understand all technical issues, but I have no problem with that.
Bad guys are not binary: determined/uninformed. They have a skillset. 100% security is impossible. You'll never stop someone from stealing your life savings if they really want to and have skills and equipment. But you still would put it in a safe.
Which doesn't mean all these measures are go
No thanks (Score:3)
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You inserted an extra "r" into that last word.
While examining potential security threats... (Score:3)
Or a false flag (Score:2)
I'm personally affected (Score:3)
It was impressive to see the enormous structures they're building around the stadium for one game. They brought in the same cranes they use to build skyscrapers to erect the most massive shade structure I've ever seen.
I'm amazed at how much money is being spent for this game. It is offensive that they feel entitled to shut down roads and trails for weeks for a frickin game.
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Humanity? its more important than that, its sport. (YAWN!) You have my sympathy..
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Tension in SF (Score:1)
How much is surveillance costing the taxpayers? (Score:2)
Be prepaired (Score:3)
All of that hoopla and theater and nobody thought to bring a NIST certified air gauge?
drones armed with nuclear weapons.. (Score:1)
They set up a 18 km (11 mile) radius no fly zone for drones (and aircraft). Maybe worried about attack by drones armed with nuclear weapons. (been waiting to make that joke since read about it a week ago.. :) )
I am pretty worried (Score:1)