Ashley Madison Blackmail Letter Revealed (grahamcluley.com) 228
An anonymous reader writes: Security researcher Graham Cluley says he has been forwarded a blackmail letter, sent to a member of the controversial Ashley Madison adultery website. In the letter the blackmailer says that unless $2,000 worth of bitcoin is paid within 10 days, the recipient's wife, friends and colleagues will be informed of his misdemeanors. In a threatening twist, the letter goes on to give personal details of another victim who refused to pay the blackmailers, and how his personal life and work were targeted as a result. Cluley's advice to recipients is not to pay the blackmailers, but to tell the U.S. Postal Inspectors Service.
this is blackmail? (Score:5, Funny)
>unless $2000 worth of bitcoin is not paid
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>unless $2000 worth of bitcoin is not paid
You should recognize this as the Piranha Brothers [wikipedia.org]' "Other Operation," in which they select a victim and threaten to not beat him up if he doesn't pay them.
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Clearly, the blackmailers need to move to the "Other Other Operation"...
DINSDALE!!!!
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Clearly, the blackmailers need to move to the "Other Other Operation"...
This, for the Piranha Brothers, was the turning point.
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To be fair, that mistake does not originate in the blackmail letter. You'll be shocked to know that the grammatical error came either from the submitter or the slashdot "editor" responsible for putting up the story.
In the letter, it says "All you have to do to prevent me from using this information against you, [redacted], is to pay me $2000" and "If you do not want me to destroy your life then send $2000 in bitcoin..."; lacking in poetry, but grammatically sound enough.
You want to cheat on your wife? (Score:2, Insightful)
This is one of the few cases where I don't support the activities of any party involved; the hackers for what they did, the website for providing/promoting such blatant infidelity, nor the people who use the site.
However, in this case, the people I support the least are the people who took their marriage vows so lightly they're using a website to cheat. It's absolutely disgusting. You get what you deserve. What to avoid the collateral damage; don't cheat. But, since you're past tha
Re: You want to cheat on your wife? (Score:2, Informative)
No one asked you to support it. This isn't about supporting or being against adulterous behaviors, but rather how willing we are as a society to protect privacy. Unless a crime was committed they have as much right as you to not be threatened.
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At least here in Virgina adultery is still in fact a crime, though rarely prosecuted unfortunately. As it should be, because I does in fact harm society at large and the party who is cheated on is essentially being defrauded with regard to their marriage contract.
Personally I would like to see the state go after some of the AM users whose actual cheating can otherwise be corroborated. I think it would send a good message, and the fine is $250 bucks so its not ruin anyone. Sadly it wont happen since the l
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How many laws have you violated today? I doubt that it's zero.
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Re: You want to cheat on your wife? (Score:5, Insightful)
You can have all that. Simply don't get married, instead offer your partner a contract, or just agree to live together and share stuff as long as it suits you.
Marriage is just a pre-packaged contract between two people, with standard terms. They are popular because they are cheaper than getting a custom contract drawn up, and if there is a dispute it's generally cheaper and easier to resolve because the courts are well versed in the terms. It's better for people who are not lawyers too, because the terms are well advertised and understood, unlike a contract full of legalese.
Unfortunately for you, many people are not willing to accept custom relationship contracts. Marriage is perceived as basically fair, and in most developed nations it more or less objectively is, so any desire to avoid those terms is seen as a desire for one side to benefit at the expense of the other.
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Having sex with someone else is immoral if you are married or not, if you are in a relationship, which is understood to be exclusive. I do not think it is any worse morally to cheat if you are just in a relationship, or married.
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Marriage is just a pre-packaged contract between two people, with standard terms [...] the terms are well advertised and understood [...] in most developed nations it more or less objectively is [fair]
Oh, hell, no. It's a pre-packaged contract, but the terms are anything but well-advertised or understood, and it's blatantly unfair in many cases. You say an oath, which isn't binding, and sign a piece of paper, which is - despite the paper containing no description of the terms of the contract. The terms also change over time: divorces and marital disputes are judged by the family law of today, not what it was when the couple got married. In some jurisdictions you can even find yourself bound by the co
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You can have all that
No you can't. The same state that regulates the terms of marriage is the state that does not honor those contracts. That was a big problem for the gay community, that despite a increasing number of places around the world recognising their partnership they were treated legally differently than a married couple without any recourse.
Take a trip to an immigration department in Germany to bring in your "partner" of 20 years. The only question will be "Why did you say partner? You mean you're not married? Well t
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Oh no... Santa? Is that you? Wh - what are you doing to Mommy?
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INext the state will decide who I can and can not merry and how often I MUST have sex with said person.
I wish may state did that, then I could show the legislation to my wife every time she refuses. Even if the state legislates minimal contact, I'm bound to be doubling what I am getting now :)
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Maybe you should move to Salem, Massachusetts, and bring back witch burning while you're at it ...
If you're so hot and bothered with other people's lives and think that they deserve to be punished, then GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND REPORT THEM. The data is all there, free for you to access.
Of course, the only thing that would happen if you made a big stink about it is that the whole internet would laugh at you - kind of like what's happening here today, but more ...
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Maybe you should move to Salem, Massachusetts, and bring back witch burning while you're at it ...
Oddly I had to look up if adultery where a crime in my state because I didn't know. Apparently it's a misdemeanor and can be used to deny a no fault divorce which would allow you to seek alimony. Massachusetts adultery is a felony and you could serve up to four years in prison.
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No but I read a story about a them using it against a rape victim to compel them to testify in 2009.
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Oddly I had to look up if adultery where a crime in my state because I didn't know. Apparently it's a misdemeanor and can be used to deny a no fault divorce which would allow you to seek alimony. Massachusetts adultery is a felony and you could serve up to four years in prison.
WTF. And bloody Americans tell everyone, whether they want to listen or not, that they live in the freest country in the world.
Admittedly adultery would carry severe risk of damage to certain body parts for me, but the state wouldn't give a damn about it. Exactly as it should be.
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My wife told me once "If we ever get divorced I'm keeping the penis, you'll just have to learn to pee sitting down." sadly I didn't have a good come back at the time.
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I take it that it is rarely prosecuted and only used in divorces as cause for alimony.
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And here we have a prime example of a member of the American Taliban.
I guess you really like the ISIS guys and how they enforce social norms too, right?
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I have a question? If you are married and your partner refuses to have sex with you on a regular basis, or uses sex to get you to do things for them, are they in violation of that contract? Since you cannot go to someone for that service.
This is nonsense, you cannot force someone to love you, or find you attractive, no matter what the law says. That is the real reason that adultery is bad, because it hurts the other person, it shows that you do not love them, and that hurts. The reason it is not enforced in
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Marriage used to have real property and public order implications because it used to be almost a major transaction. The reason it was illegal was due to that as much as due to morality.
Note that our views on love and marriage are anachronistic against the time period where these laws were enacted.
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I, for one, am very glad I don't live in Virginia.
Well apparently, according to another poster here, blue-state Massachusetts is much worse, with it being a felony punishable by 4 years in prison!
Gotta love those blue states. New Jersey, another blue state, has counties (most notably Bergen Co.) with blue laws where businesses aren't allowed to be open on Sunday (except restaurants for some odd reason, and probably things like gas stations). And the "liberals" there love these moralistic laws! "They give workers time off!" Yeah, I'm sure underpaid minimum-wage workers just *love* being forced to take unpaid time off.
I think we should come up with some new terms besides "liberal" and "conservative": the "liberalism" practiced in northeast states does not even remotely resemble the "liberalism" seen in west-coast cities like SanFran, Portland, or Seattle. You would never, ever see blue laws on the west coast, and certainly not criminalization of adultery.
It's not a red or blue thing. Utah pretty much shuts down on Sunday too.
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It's mostly a historical thing. There are people who were completely legitimate "liberals" and "progressives" in earlier times who would have found adultery and homosexuality abominable. Their "radicalism" or "liberalism" was the ability for all men to vote, or for the government to not shut down the free press. Of course, there were always people who thought that women should be able to vote, or homosexuals shouldn't be hung, but those were very, very radical people.
The important thing to realist is tha
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It's a little more complicated than that, though. Those "conservatives" frequently want change too; there's a bunch of conservatives who want marijuana legalized, for instance. You don't see it in the east-coast "liberal" states much (except DC), but Arizona is pretty "red" and has medical marijuana that's really easy to get a card for, unlike blue New Jersey where it's nearly impossible to get legal medical MJ.
Also, look at gun laws: you'd think that blue states would universally be anti-gun, but Bernie'
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I used to live in NJ too, however I only saw the really stupid stuff if I ventured up to Bergen county. I did notice that liquor stores weren't allowed to be open on Sunday mornings (seemingly state-wide), so that did irk me; I never saw anything like that in red-state, home of Joe Arpaio Arizona where I used to live.
Re: You want to cheat on your wife? (Score:2)
one, I am not advocating anarchy, as it is obvious that people should not be free to do things that directly harm others.
That's not what anarchy means, derp
The need to balance individual freedom against harm to others is obvious.
Breaking a promise to someone else is harmful, but not so harmful that we throw people in jail for it. That same principle applies to sexual practices between consenting adults, duh.
Take your moral dictatorship and shove it up your ass.
Re: You want to cheat on your wife? (Score:2)
speaking of derp ... thanks mobile gui.
not so harmful that we throw people in jail for it. That same principle applies to sexual practices between consenting adults, duh.
why the sexual hangup? why not every consensual interaction?
Take your moral dictatorship and shove it up your ass.
so moral monopolies are bad but legal ones are good? Try for consistency dude.
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Most of the membership was closet gay people who didn't want to be outed. Especially since being gay is punishable by death in some countries and cultures.
So maybe you can get off your high horse and actually try to understand the different sides of the issue for once.
Re:You want to cheat on your wife? (Score:4, Funny)
You are saying this was primarily marketed to closet gays in sub-Saharan Africa?
I think he's confusing the terms "blackmail" and "black male".
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I have zero sympathy for a cheater who gets one of these letters. If you betray your spouse, then you can suck on the consequences.
On the other hand, extortion is still an illegal act, no matter how righteous it may look when you do it.
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It's tempting to blame the victims here given the advertised purpose of the website but keep in mind that making generalizations about any group isn't going to accurately describe all of the members of that group. One of my friends was a victim of this breach and received a blackmail letter. She joined the site because she was worried her husband was cheating and wanted to see if he had an account. (He didn't but it turned out he was cheating and she caught him eventually by other means.) After the breach s
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It's tempting to blame the victims here given the advertised purpose of the website but keep in mind that making generalizations about any group isn't going to accurately describe all of the members of that group.
I agree, which is why I specified actual cheaters, as opposed to the gawkers, the sleuths, the open-marriage types (who probably wouldn't care if his/her spouse found out), etc.
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I agree, which is why I specified actual cheaters, as opposed to the gawkers, the sleuths, the open-marriage types (who probably wouldn't care if his/her spouse found out), etc.
No while the open marriage types may not care that their wife/husband found out. The blackmail letter threatened to contact, workmates, and other family members.
The blackmailers do not care about the (moral)"crimes" committed by the blackmailee, They are opportunist criminals seeking to make a buck (bitcoin)
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Mod me down all you want, kids, but you know I'm right. ;)
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WOW a shashdotter using a moral line.
Really???
No one is asking for you or anyone to support.
Everyone and anyone has the rights to live without being subjected to harm from 3rd parties.
Wife cheats on her husband or husband cheats on the wife, does not really matter.
Might be good reason for it, maybe, no reason for it, but, no need to subject both parties to harm.
and a simple observation ...
don't waste time paying the blackmailers, seems like you'll get demand letters for ever
Re:You want to cheat on your wife? (Score:5, Insightful)
Meh, people have been screwing around on one another for as long as they've had one another.
Putting aside the underlying puritanical bullshit, who broke the law here? Yes, that's right, the hackers and the extortionists. Wah wah wah, people have affairs and they'e evil people .. such moralizing bullshit. Neither Ashley Madison nor the people using the site broke any laws.
And I've long since stopped thinking the opinion of a bunch of hand-wringing church ladies is of any consequence. It's just people acting like they have authority over what others do. People who think infidelity will stop due to their own loud self-righteousness ... well, just as often those assholes find themselves getting caught doing the same fucking thing.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, otherwise shut the fuck up. It's disgusting that you feel your opinion about what people you don't know is worth a damn, or that it has anything to do with you.
Oh, wait, is your entire morality based on retribution against strangers because you feel they deserve it? That's not a fucking morality, that's being a self-righteous ass.
What next, wanting us stoned for idolatry? Go stone yourself.
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Putting aside the underlying puritanical bullshit, who broke the law here? Yes, that's right, the hackers and the extortionists. Wah wah wah, people have affairs and they'e evil people .. such moralizing bullshit. Neither Ashley Madison nor the people using the site broke any laws.
That isn't true, depending on what state you live in! Adultery is absolutely a crime in Virgina and probably other states. It should be a crime everywhere. If you are committing adultery and you are violating your marriage contract. At least if you spouse is ignorant of this its likely they are investing in the partnership in ways that would be against their interest if the marriage isn't sustainable. If they were aware of your misbehavior and would stop doing that in light of it you have induced them
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Putting aside the underlying puritanical bullshit, who broke the law here? Yes, that's right, the hackers and the extortionists. Wah wah wah, people have affairs and they'e evil people .. such moralizing bullshit. Neither Ashley Madison nor the people using the site broke any laws.
That isn't true, depending on what state you live in! Adultery is absolutely a crime in Virgina and probably other states.
Utah is another such state. Because of its polygamous past, the US Congress forced the state constitution to legally define marriage as being between one man and one woman (though part of that got thrown out with same-sex marriage now legal nation-wide). The state constitution also makes any extra-marital affairs illegal (though this is rarely enforced).
It should be a crime everywhere. If you are committing adultery and you are violating your marriage contract. At least if you spouse is ignorant of this its likely they are investing in the partnership in ways that would be against their interest if the marriage isn't sustainable. If they were aware of your misbehavior and would stop doing that in light of it you have induced them to act against their own interest by misrepresentation. That is basically the text book definition of FRAUD.
We don't tolerate legally or societal fraud elsewhere there is no justifiable reason it should be tolerated with regard to marriage. The reason it is tolerated is because progressives hate the idea of the family unit. Its a little to autonomous and independent for them so they do what they can break it down including stacking the legal framework against it.
That's a good view; marriage is a contract. If you violate the contract, your partner can void the contract without prejudice (meaning, in part, that prenup
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At least if you spouse is ignorant of this its likely they are investing in the partnership in ways that would be against their interest if the marriage isn't sustainable. If they were aware of your misbehavior and would stop doing that in light of it you have induced them to act against their own interest by misrepresentation. That is basically the text book definition of FRAUD.
No it is not.
From USLEGAL.com:Fraud is generally defined in the law as an intentional misrepresentation of material existing fact made by one person to another with knowledge of its falsity and for the purpose of inducing the other person to act, and upon which the other person relies with resulting injury or damage.
Note the "inducing the other person to act" and "resulting injury or damage."
The reason it is tolerated is because progressives hate the idea of the family unit. Its a little to autonomous and independent for them so they do what they can break it down including stacking the legal framework against it.
Utter fucking nonsense.
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Sure, and ISIS will stone you for adultery. I don't respect their authority either. See, your religion doesn't confer an obligation on me.
I'm not defending adultery ... do it and deal with it if you get caught. Not my damned problem. I've never done it, but I'm not such an ass as to believe I have the right to make it a crime.
But calling it fraud as a fucking crime? Yeah, go beat your wife with a rod no bigger than your thumb. Force your daughter to marry her rapist.
So, I'll tell you what ... if you p
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"In all those things which deal with people, be liberal, be human. In all those things which deal with people's money, or th
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In what "marriage contract" does it say, "You may not "cheat" on your spouse."? I looked around and I couldn't find this "marriage contract" of which you speak. Will you please show me where I signed on the dotted line? I've observed some marriages where the Preacher Man says something like, "you shall foresake all others" as part of the vows, but certainly not all, and you could make a case for this being a pretty vague and unenforceable clause.
But the fact is, the vows are a religious issue and "marriage"
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It's spelled "vagina". Does that mean nudging the fudge and tickling the tonsils don't count?
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It should be a crime everywhere. If you are committing adultery and you are violating your marriage contract.
Since when is contract violation a crime rather than a civil dispute?
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Putting aside the underlying puritanical bullshit, who broke the law here? Yes, that's right, the hackers and the extortionists.
Depends on where it happened there are still plenty of states in the US (around 20) and other countries where adultery is a crime. It's a class c misdemeanor in my state so a small fine but it can be used against you in divorce proceedings to get alimony.
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But realistically, it's never (well hardly ever) prosecuted..
It will, however, still get you tossed from the military
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I see what you did there.
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Meh, people have been screwing around on one another for as long as they've had one another.
Putting aside the underlying puritanical bullshit, who broke the law here? Yes, that's right, the hackers and the extortionists. Wah wah wah, people have affairs and they'e evil people .. such moralizing bullshit. Neither Ashley Madison nor the people using the site broke any laws.
Yes, but remember those who used Ashley Madison set themselves up for this. No one forced them to use that service, they did so of their own accord knowing they were cheating on their partners.
I have no sympathy for them.
However the consequences that the blackmailee's want to avoid (no, I cant call them victims) is the financial consequences of their spouses finding out. They signed a legal agreement that gives them some financial liability, especially if they have children. This is what the cheaters
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There's a reason insurance companies use statistics to generate rates for people such as young drivers are more likely to be involved in accidents so their rates are necessarily higher.
In a similar vein, people with good credit scores are more likely to take care of their car or other possessions compared to those with lower credit scores.
So yes, those who are faithful are, on the whole, less likely to cheat their employer.
Also, how you act in your private life may impact your business life. If someone kno
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Have you, or anyone (or organization) you know actually collected the statistics between the correlation of cheating on a spouse and cheating their employers. I assure you insurance companies have, those statistics for traffic accidents. There is a big difference between making some random assertion and actually having some real proof to back it up.
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You either have character or you don't.
Cheating on your wife may not be "proof" that you'd steal from me if I hired you, but it is definitely proof that you lack integrity and are not they type of person that I would want to associate with on either a professional or personal level.
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Things like this always remind of movies like "taken".
It's all fun and games until they pick a serial killer that hears god's voice telling him to punish the wicked and is using the site to lure sinners to a horrible death.
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However, in this case, the people I support the least are the people who took their marriage vows so lightly they're using a website to cheat. It's absolutely disgusting. You get what you deserve. What to avoid the collateral damage; don't cheat. But, since you're past that point; you might as well fess up to it; and make sure you tell your family you're only coming clean about it due to a threat of blackmail. It'll make them see your character for what it really is.
I know a couple of acquaintances (not well but I do know them) who cheated on their wives with co-workers. This has nothing to do with Ashley Madison. In neither case did the wife have any idea. Both guys felt guilt-ridden about cheating, so they decided to come clean. In both cases the marriages were over on the spot. In one case the guy literally got asked by his wife to leave their house immediately and I know this because the guy he stayed with for a while is a friend of mine, not just an acquainta
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Actually, many partners are looking for an excuse to not have to deal with it, and would prefer to be lied to, even though they are quite aware of what happened, and are privately resolving to do their part in making things better.
And your moral compass is likely to take a beating when you truthfully answer questions like "Does this dress make me look fat?"
Relationships are like many other parts of life - complicated.
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Funny, Ive never cheated, but I managed to outgrow the "holier than thou" attitude when I disavowed Christianity and returned to being an atheist.
It's attitudes like yours that make it so easy to blackmail people. Ditto for inflaming the situation in individual cases rather than trying to work out a solution that's in the best interests of everyone. In other words, self-righteous assholes like you are a big part of the problem.
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Quite frankly, screw everyone all around in this ordeal. It's disgusting we're still talking about this.
it makes me ask if you're secretly a masochist, because if you're
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Does that mean that if she's screwing her tennis instructor I have to screw him too? I'd much rather bonk that chubby redhead from HR with the blouse like a photo finish in a Zeppelin race.
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Funny, Ive never cheated, but I managed to outgrow the "holier than thou" attitude when I disavowed Christianity and returned to being an atheist.
Hear, hear.
It's attitudes like yours that make it so easy to blackmail people.
It's attitude like his which are causing the Millenials to abandon Christianity. And for good reason. How ironic is it that the religion centered on the guy who said "do not judge lest thee be judged" is full of the most judgmental, self-righteous assholes on this side of the planet?
Wife??? (Score:3)
So, you say that women do not cheat? I wonder all those cheating man [according to feminist 90 % at least] - with who are they cheating? Goats? Or are there 1000 super women on earth that can have 100 000 000 lovers each? Remember, when the scandal came out it was shown that 90 or more percent of the users of the site are men and everyone was like "see how terrible men are, bloody cheaters" , was I the only one that asked the question above?
I am so fed up with this crap!!! And your user name suggest you are
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Women I think probably cheat at least as much as men. They just don't need websites to do it, because it's much easier for them to find partners to cheat with.
There have been genetic studies which have found that something like 15% of the population in western countries (I think Britain was where one study was done) does not have the father they thought they did, meaning that their mother cheated, while ovulating. Other studies have found that women are much more likely to stray when they are ovulating.
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Considering the number of actual women on Ashley Madison, his wife can sleep well, there is no way he cheated on her that way.
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Re:You want to cheat on your wife? (Score:4, Insightful)
especially if you do it only because of the blackmail money - cheapskate
Not paying up for blackmail is not being a cheapskate. It makes zero sense to pay blackmail money. So you pay the $2k today, what did that actually gain you? What's to stop them from coming back tomorrow and demanding another $2k or the week after and demanding $40k? What's to stop someone else from demanding $2k? Paying to keep information secret is a game you can't win. Old movies would try to pretend that you are paying for the originals or that they destroy all the other copies but in today's world it's impossible to prove that so it makes zero sense to ever pay blackmail. The only place it might make a little sense is if you get in a situation where it's either a continue flow of money and/or the identity of the blackmailer is known and has something to lose if they are found out as well. This occasionally happens where some politician pays support money for an illegitimate child or something like that but even this is a fool's game as the blackmailer can always increase the amount of money required at any time. Any time you're in a situation where there is one sided leverage then your best and only option is to figure out how to remove that leverage from being used.
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Not paying up for blackmail is not being a cheapskate. It makes zero sense to pay blackmail money. So you pay the $2k today, what did that actually gain you? What's to stop them from coming back tomorrow and demanding another $2k or the week after and demanding $40k? What's to stop someone else from demanding $2k? Paying to keep information secret is a game you can't win.
As a one-time payoff I agree and you're a fool to pay if many people know, if you're under blackmail you should expect it to be ongoing. However, they don't want to lose you as a blackmail victim either so in a one-on-one situation you might try to reach some sort of understanding of how much it's worth to you and if they demand more you'll just own up to it and they get nothing. Better bring your poker face though.
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and if they demand more you'll just own up to it and they get nothing.
For each dollar spent the incentive to do that decreases. It's a downward death spiral that will never end in your favour. Your final scenario is identical to the original except that you're not out of pocket for money already paid too.
This is a game where it does not make sense to play.
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It's interesting that in the letter, the blackmailer provides no information about the recipient apart from his name and address. He lists all of the information about his prior victim, but my guess is that it's all part of his ruse. I suspect that the websites are fake and the phone number is a line straight to the blackmailer, who will corroborate the story whenever any of the many recipients of his letters call.
This requires more money to set up than an email, but the blackmailer knows that ``The wicked flee when no man pursueth."
Everything old is new again (Score:2)
n a threatening twist, the letter goes on to give personal details of another victim who refused to pay the blackmailers, and how his personal life and work were targeted as a result.
Unless what purportedly happened to the "other victim" is verifiable, this is no different than what one used to read in an old fashioned chain letter. Those would invariably tell you about the riches and good fortune that had happened to (named) people who forwarded the letter to x numbers of their friends; then spell out all the troubles and misfortunes experienced by other (named) individuals who'd failed to pass the letter along within the requisite period of time. It was all imaginary nonsense.
Doesn't matter (Score:2)
While being an active user of Ashley Madison may indicate an intent to cheat, a vanishingly small amount of men are successfully cheating with women who use the site.
The site only sells the fantasy of cheating with their bots.
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While being an active user of Ashley Madison may indicate an intent to cheat, a vanishingly small amount of men are successfully cheating with women who use the site.
The site only sells the fantasy of cheating with their bots.
Yes, if it's safe to assume that a man who already has a mistress wouldn't pay for the site, registering for Ashley Madison is pretty good evidence that a mad did not actually cheat on his wife. There were 39 million men registered, and only perhaps about 12,000 women using the site.
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...registering for Ashley Madison is pretty good evidence that a mad did not actually cheat on his wife.
No, but it's pretty good evidence that he wants to.
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I would wager that the kind of person who couldn't cheat without a web site couldn't cheat with Ashley Madison even if it wasn't a complete fraud, either.
They're probably not attractive or charismatic enough to attract a partner to begin with.
Amature Night (Score:5, Informative)
You don't send blackmail letters IN THE MAIL.
This is now a federal crime, and the post office inspectors office, and probably the FBI, gets involved. Since this is in the news, they will probably be very interested in this case, as well.
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Only if they want to investigate though. It's still a relatively small crime if it's just one blackmailer for $2000 against one person. It only becomes a big enough deal to pay attention if it's something big like the Ashley Madison case.
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Solution (Score:2)
Use a white envelope.
Still.... I wouldn't want to go toe-to-toe with the postmaster general.... he checks his blood sugar and checks it often...
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US Postal Inspectors Service.
It really is called USPIS? I thought Brooklyn Nine Nine made that up.
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This is absolutely NOT about the systematic patriarchal oppression of women. It's about the systematic financial exploitation of men via bots.
Also, who says that every guy on the site was married? Or even real?
As a society we've already decided that consensual sex between two or more adults is their business. Not yours. Not mine. Not the governments.
Not only does the website promote the exploitation (rape) of sex workers, by promoting the idea of illicit and decietful "affairs" it also denies couples the agency of exploriing open, non-binary, non-monogamous, and especially homosexual, pansexual and transsexual expieriences.
This is utter nonsense. A web site that promotes consensual sex is not promoting the exploitation of sex workers. To the contrary, pimps are probably the one
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That's a part of rape culture. What rape culture really means I've come to find doesn't really have anything to do with the act of rape. It's about FEEL GUILTY! As far as feminism is concerned, the fact that rape cultures require policies that can expel anybody assigned the male gender at birth for any baseless accusation of intention (not even an accusation of the act) is a pleasant side effect.
Also, GP probably considers any sexual act between a cisgendered woman and somebody assigned the male gender a
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What rape culture really means I've come to find doesn't really have anything to do with the act of rape.
That's the only sentence even close to being right.
Rape culture is the set of ideas about how people should be pressured into sex, or unwanted contact like kissing and sexual touching. The idea that you can go to a bar, find someone, and get them drunk so they are more likely to have sex with you or at least let you cop a feel and that's just "game" or what happens in bars is rape culture. The idea that if someone tells you "no", you can just ask them another 50 times until they say yes because they are pro
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The Michigan Womyn's Music Festival had its final event last year. It's dead [advocate.com]. One more group of TERFs turfed.
Now if any pharmacy tries to stigmatize you for your meds, there's a simple solution - report them to the head office. You can be sure it will stop damned fast. And in the meantime, if part of rape culture is about feeling guilty, that part can also be dealt with - refuse to feel guilty. Don't accept the stigma. Ultimately, the only person who can make you feel guilty is yourself, if you allow yours
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So what? How do any of these fringe idiots affect anything? Nobody even knows they exist. I'm more concerned with the bad treatment the Human Rights Campaign has been giving us [buzzfeed.com], both publicly and privately, for years because if you're not a white gay male, you're nothing, while pretending to the politicians, funders, and general public that they somehow speak for anyone who isn't a member of the gay white male mafia.
Quotes from the audit:
"Staff at the Human Rights Campaign last fall described the working environment at the nation’s largest LGBT rights group as “judgmental,” “exclusionary,” “sexist,” and “homogenous
"“Leadership culture is experienced as homogenous — gay, white, male,” the report stated. “Exclusion was broad-based and hit all identity groups within HRC. A judgmental working environment, particularly concerning women and feminine-identified individuals, was highlighted in survey responses.”
"Among those issues were findings that “[t]rans* people don’t feel safe to come out at HRC,” noting that some staff “work for years at HRC before coming out as trans.”
"The report also notes that “trans* people are frequently misgendered with the wrong pronouns, after repeated corrections.”
"Younger staff in particular are exploited and not rewarded financially.” Another said, “Straight women and lesbians get sexist treatment from gay men at HRC.”
“Seven out of 31 men who have been promoted have been on staff less than two years (some promoted two times). No women under two years have been promoted.”
There's more. To hell with them. We don't need them, never have nee
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Why did I need to pull out the much-hated term cisgendered there? Lest we forget, trans women are guilty of metaphysical rape for violating the female form and invading women.
what I'm saying is true.
The reason you get modded down and sound like a fool is you're just spewing utterly random shit. The "cold war" you have with feminism is entirely of your own invention.
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Actually even if they pay it's not so simple. They want payment in bitcoin. Most people can't easily do that. It's not like you can go to the bank and get some. Those ransom malwares that want bitcoin paid often result in baffled users trying to figure out how to pay up in time. Story on a podcast that started relating how someone needed to pay the ransomware and ended up with several roadblocks, including having to drive several hours to a bitcoin "ATM" to meet a deadline and then still ended up havin