Popular Torrent Site Disappears From Google After Penalty 165
An anonymous reader writes: Following what appears to be a severe penalty, the popular torrent site KickassTorrents has become pretty much unfindable in Google. Meanwhile, the top search result in many locations points to a scam site that's serving malware to its visitors. For now, only DuckDuckGo presents the real site as a main result. With millions of visitors per day, KickassTorrents is arguably the most visited torrent site on the Internet, and has gained new users during the moments when the notorious Pirate Bay has been offline.
Points at DuckDuckGo (Score:3, Funny)
Hideki!
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It is posts like these that make me glad I do not know a damned thing about anime. They also make me less inclined to learn anything more about it.
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I do not know if that is good or bad. The frowny emoticon indicates you are unhappy but that could be a good thing. I also speak not one lick of Japanese, Chinese, or Korean, or am even really sure what language it is that is being used. I suppose that means I suck.
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It's a nonsensical sound the main character uses for interaction in place of actual language
Re:Points at DuckDuckGo (Score:5, Informative)
For the search term "KickassTorrents":
google.com returns "kickasstorrents.video" as the first result
google.ca returns "kickasstorrents.pw" as the first result
bing.com returns "kickasstorrents.ee" as the first result
duckduckgo.com returns "kat.cr" as the first result, with a big "OFFICIAL SITE" red label
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google.com returns 1) kickasstorrents.video (fake site), 2) an advertisement and 3) kickasstorrents.eu (real site).
bing.com returns 1) kickasstorrents.to (real site), 2) kickasstorrents.us (real site) and 3) kat.cr (real site).
Bing is better.
Warning - kickasstorrents.eu is malware (Score:3)
Other people in the thread have posted the eu site is malware - not sure about the us variant. the kat.cr is real.
Re:Points at DuckDuckGo (Score:5, Funny)
Bing is better.
I know each of those words but have never seen them used in that configuration before...
most curious...
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When it comes to dead crooners, some prefer Frank, others prefer Bing.
I like Bing.
So, there. It can be said and it might even be true. I might be lying.
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I find that Bing's results are often better than Google's. Unfortunately I seldom think to use them and Google is my default search and my home page should I ever actually reach my home page. (My browser opens up the tabs that were open when it was closed. I never really see my home page anymore. I am not even sure if I have configured it as of late.)
Re: Points at DuckDuckGo (Score:2, Informative)
Better yet just go to the torrent freak website. They list the top 10 torrent sites and keep their links up to date. Torrent freak is also a great news site for the latest p2p happening. https://torrentfreak.com/
Google is becoming irrelevant (Score:1)
Just like their search results. Kind of ironic that they have become a laggard in an industry they used to excel at.
Re:Google is becoming irrelevant (Score:5, Funny)
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Wahahahahahaha....damn that shit is hilarious. Sadly I have no points but you sure as hell deserve +5 Funny!
Bing was set up on our computers as the default search engine but it only took about a week and now there's not a computer at work that still defaults to bing.
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Same thing that killed Altavista. A search site is only as useful as long as it can resist this.
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I have been 'online' since the 1980s. Nothing personal but I sort of wish you would all go home. I may be stuck in my ways but I still blame AOL for the changes and I blame them for the death of USENET as well. Dirty bastards...
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In my tests, DDG returned the best results, then Bing, then Google. Which, honestly makes sense. Bing's results are better for the same reason Mac's are/were so much safer. Being #2, you get to avoid most of the effort because it goes into fucking up #1.
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Even my 93 year old aunt knows what Google is and uses it. Hell, how many times do you hear someone say "Google it." Even their damn name is synonymous with the word search.
Re:Google is becoming irrelevant (Score:5, Insightful)
Even their damn name is synonymous with the word search.
Doesn't change the fact that their search sucks. There's just no clear competitor yet who obviously sucks less.
Just look at something as simple as trying to find a review of a graphics card, as I did a few days ago. Hundreds of retail sites which list the card, just because the page mentions 'review', before I get to an actual honest-to-god review.
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Why do they suck and if they sucked shouldn't there be clear competitors which sucked less?
How good is Yahoo? At least they too offer a massive mail. And lots of picture space too.
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try:
"graphics card review -shop -buy"
But I just slapped "Evga GT750 review" into google and the first 3 sites are actual reviews, the 4th being Evga's own site.
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> Hundreds of retail sites which list the card, just because the page mentions 'review', before I get to an actual honest-to-god review.
Kind of like this site when I try searching for honest-to-god news.
Re:Google is becoming irrelevant (Score:5, Insightful)
Google won't think for you.
Unfortunately, Google tries to think for you all the time, and usually make a bad job of it. You can't possibly be searching for [thing you typed], you must mean [thing with a similar name that's much more popular on social media this week]. You don't want established information about [thing you typed], you want 3 search pages of the same [parroted news story vaguely related to thing from this morning]. You don't want [famous torrent site], you want [misleadingly named malware domain because we've nuked the actual site for some mysterious reason of our own]. Once upon a time, Google was used by people who were happy to think for themselves. Now it targets the mass market, and has algorithms designed to second guess poorly constructed searches at the expense of dumbing down the experience for the minority of users who can put together a precise set of search terms. It feels like a blunt instrument now - finding anything obscure always seems to need multiple quoted strings (like AltaVista back in the day) and Verbatim mode.
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Just because you refer to searching as "Googling" doesn't mean that you have to use them for your searches. As I mentioned in another post I use Startpage.com [startpage.com] when I want to google for something.
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Re: Google is becoming irrelevant (Score:1)
To hoover (primarily British usage) doesn't require a particular brand of vacuum cleaner.
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/hoover
To google will change meaning if Google lose dominance.
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UH. no. See: Xerox, kleenex, hoover, coke.
Technically you are "googling" at StartPage (Score:2)
StartPage is only Google-sourced. Sure, anonymized so not personalized, tracked, or bubbled. But exclusively Google-sourced. Says so right on the box.
So you are "googling" at StartPage. If that isn't what you want, if you want results not wholesaled from Google, use StartPage sister site IxQuick.com. They are a metasearch of many-excluding-Google.
Or use DuckDuckGo, which gets the vast majority of general purpose search from Yandex, but may still have a bit of Bing. Many specialty searches also feed DDG but
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I would love to see a cleanup for people trying to solve a technical problem. You do a search and find thousands of results where someone asks pretty much your exact question and instead of an actual useful answer, the thread dies after 4 or 5 people in a row berate the questioner and tell them to Google it. That, and of course, offer$ of possible answers (or not) from ExpertSexChange.com
Admittedly, that may be a hard problem to solve in an automated way.
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Just add site:stackoverflow.com to your query. Like "c++ garbage collection timeout site:stackoverflow.com". Done.
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"Relevancy" is said only by those who don't understand the root word. And not everything is an extreme. One event does not make the point that Google has lost all of its relevance. You do get points for properly spelling its, though.
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AltaVista? WebCrawler?
Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
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Google is great if you use it to not have to type in the full address of the page you usually visit.
The problem is that Google tries to keep track of your interests to provide search results that are personalized and more relevant to you.
This is all fine if you like to live in your bubble and never learn anything new.
I often end up in situations where I have to leave my bubble and learn something that I've never been interested in before, in some of those cases it is completely hopeless to use Google, espec
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Google gives less good results than it used to but with a strong adblocker like Adblock Edge or uBlock it's still okay. The important point is too check subsequent pages, and always check out and read any "EU censored" pages by using a proxy.
uBlock Origin not uBlock (Score:2)
I hope you mean the real "uBlock" which is uBlock Origin, the continuation by gorhill of his real uBlock code, not the sorta-sleazy plain "uBlock" that he handed over to a minor contributor - said contributor immediately launching a donation site, not updating nearly as frequently as "real uBlock" = uBlock Origin, and not including several of gorhill's latest features such as WebRTC "real-IP leak" blocking.
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How does using a search engine gives you "points"? It means you're logged into a Microsoft account, so at one point in the future it's not going to be any better than Google, it could even be worst.
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I am sure the average person who is googling out information on Justin Bieber or wants a new pair of shoes will find Bing works just fine for them. However I am an IT professional and Google just seems to get it right where Bing does not seem to have a clue about what I am looking for.
I work with Linux and do quite a bit of programming as well as supporting Microsoft Windows desktops and servers. Every time I give Bing a chance with something I KNOW Google will show as the number one or two search result, B
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My experience as well. Search for some Windows patch or service pack and Google will give me the download page on position one.
Bing might be better at finding some hip and trendy article about the service pack but it is not the information I asked it to find.
This is not a Google search bubble thing.
Disclaimer: last tested over a year ago
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Simple solution: For work, use google and get optimised results.
For whatever else you search (weird pr0n, I assume, it is always weird pr0n): use duck duck go and you won't (hopefully) be tracked.
I have no fear.
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Typing in "screen" and having GNU Screen come up is scary, because that means they are building search results based on your personal information.
Or they might be tailoring the results depending on the User-Agent, in my case: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Fedora; Linux x86_64; rv:39.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/39.0
I figure they do something like: "If User has Linux Browser User Agent then give priority to Linux related search results"
Explaining why GNU Screen is the first result when I search for "screen"
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I'm getting GNU Screen as the first search result, as well, despite using Chrome on Win8.1 (and generally using Windows 99% of the time). Pretty sure that is based on personal profile / search history.
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I find Google blocking things to be highly annoying. Try the search of Google shopping for a confederate flag or battle flag of Virginia as an example.
I go to Bing, and the first results are relevant. It makes me wonder how many other things are being Google-Washed away. IMHO Google has hit the tipping point where it will start to drive users away to other search engines because of their corporate behavior.
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on bing lately anyway ive been finding what i need around page 1-3
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I really think we could do with a bunch of new search providers (even paid *gasp*) who specialize in certain areas such as history, science, technology, news, etc... The subjects are so disparate that one provider really is unlikely to be able to effectively give results at a level beyond that of a layman. Having specialist searches would be, I think, a good thing even though it may fracture the market. I suspect that we would have to pay somehow though they could be ad supported but that leads to an extra
Northern Light search engine was that. (Score:2)
The late-1990s early-20-oughts search engine "Northern Light" was exactly that [seobythesea.com] (old screenshot image link ironically found on via Bing). It did just what you describe: "search providers (even paid *gasp*) who specialize in certain areas such as history, science, technology, news, etc", bundled into a singly search interface. There was both general purpose search that was free, and it also pulled in and offered premium results from topic-specialty paid providers. You could choose to search the "World Wide We
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Holy crap! I had completely forgotten about them. There was also Copernica kicking around back then as well. I do miss Altavista and reminisce about them more than is probably healthy. I was a big fan of the boolean search engines and the ease of narrowing down the results with it as well as getting specific results. Those traits seem to be returning at some of the alternative search sites though - something I see as a positive.
I checked and the similarly named astalavista.box.sk is still available. FOSI is
Re: Google is becoming irrelevant (Score:2)
Just tried it. Your exact quote, copied and pasted. Worked fine. Gave me a bunch of listings from the correct site. Even HTTPS, too.
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Few people realize this. I am a long-term fan of Opera and have noted such frequently in the past. One thing to note is that Opera has now changed and is based on the same engine that Chrome uses. There is now a stable version of the new version though there is also a beta track (I have one Windows PC on it) but I have no idea how to get back onto it with other computers.
The others, including this, are all on stable releases. I have not actually looked to see how to get onto the beta track though and the ve
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Google is as good as a centralized search engine is likely to get. But any centralized entity has an inherent evolutionary disadvantage in the Age of Information: it can be censored.
Uuuh no... (Score:1)
There are plenty of references and it is easy to find.
So not "unfindable".
Google showing malware results? (Score:1)
And who's surprised by that?
Umm (Score:5, Interesting)
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I just tried that (Score:2)
Kickass Torrents: KAT kickass.proxyindex.net/ Search and discuss new and favorite TV shows & TV series, movies, music and games. The Walking Dead. - Kickass Torrents
kickass.to/usearch/The%20Walking%20Dead/ A description for this result is not available because of this site's robots.txt â" learn more. KAT - Kickass Torrents kickass-torrent.ytsre.eu/
Did you log out? (Score:3)
Always suspicious of google search results if someone doesn't explicitly say that they were logged out.
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I got kickass.to/usearch/Man%20Of%20Steel/ as my first result. The second result was the fake site, but the first result didn't land at the KaT homepage.
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popular? disappears? (Score:1)
Filthy pirates! (Score:1)
For each copy of Windows you guys steal, Bill and Steve make less money. Which means another black baby in Africa gets malaria and one less Clipper gets a line of blow to do with his hooker tonight.
Hope you're proud of yourselves, heartless pricks!
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Damn! I'm so sorry. I never thought of it like that.
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For each copy of Windows you "steal", you became a windows user regardless, and when you get hired by a big company, they have to actually buy windows (or get sued to give microsoft some cool millions) to you be able to work on it.
Google needs our help (kickass.to kat.cr) (Score:3, Informative)
Seems that google has some kind of (memory) corruption otherwise they (don't) censor things.
1.) So basically you can find the url via wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
2.) Kickasstorrents have a (?censor resistant?) twitteraccount:
https://twitter.com/kickasstor... [twitter.com]
3.) you can reach KAT:
kickass.to
kat.cr
It moved to new domain (Score:5, Informative)
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Their original URL works still also.
http://kat.ph/ [kat.ph]
It redirects to .cr but that was their original still works
Which is the "real" site? (Score:2)
No link to the real site? I'm not sure which is the original and which ones are just mirrors and malware.
http://kat.cr/ [kat.cr]
http://kickasstorrents.video/ [kickasstorrents.video]
My test results - KAT is not on google (Score:2)
Kickass Torrents: KAT
kickass.proxyindex.net/
KickassTorrents Homepage – latest updates and reviews
kickasstorrents.eu/
THIS IS THE MALWARE SITE
KickassTorrents (@kickasstorrents) | Twitter
https://twitter.com/kickasstor... [twitter.com]
KickassTorrents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
KickassTorrents
kickass.to/usearch/The%20Walking%20Dead/
KAT - Kickass Torrents
kickass-torrent.ytsre.eu/
KickassTorrents Disappears F
never mind search engine results (Score:3)
Virgin Media have taken it upon themselves to reduce the Internet to "programmed" content by blocking certain sites pursuant to a court order which I have yet to see. They don't even offer a LINK. What I'm getting for my fifty quid a month is basically scheduled content just like the TV. It's a six hundred quid a year fucking television licence fee!
Yet, they're advertising the internet. Selectively filtered content is NOT the internet.
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It's a court order, they have little choice. But their blocking is also trivial to circumvent. Pirate bay is blocked, yes... but not if you go via https.
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I'll save you the trouble, wb7301a is Virgin's paedo filter. Strange that Isohunt contains no child abuse content.
Quawk It with DuckDuckGo (Score:1)
Just switch to DuckDuckGo, like post NSA people did. You can even add !kickasstorrents to only search kickass in DDG.
The sooner we all switch away from Google, a search engine that logs everything, (and also has adverts on pretty much every site, and analytics on every site,) the better.
You realize that Google has all your kickasstorrent searches don't you? And if you are a lawmaker, then your kids kickasstorrent searches are also in the NSA database ready to be leverage against you? Get them into the hab
Using it for 2 years as the default (Score:2)
It's getting better. Most of the time I don't need to Google, but if I'm having trouble, I add g! to the beginning of my search and Google adds a data point to my advertising profile, but I get a second opinion, usually not very helpful.
DDG seems too good to be true really. I wonder if they're *really* not watching.
In other news... (Score:1)
... I just switched to DuckDuckGo.
Claim is untrue for Australia (Score:2)
kickass torrents [google.com.au]
First three results
Search and discuss new and favorite TV shows & TV series, movies, music and games.
kickass.to/usearch/The%20Walking%20Dead/ A description for this result is not available because of this site's robots.txt â" learn more.
Image for the news result
KickassTorrents Disappears From Google After Penalty TorrentFreakâZ - 17 hours ago
Story posted by Soulskill - probably the explanation
signs you may be ignorant twat when using browser (Score:2, Insightful)
1. You use search engine rather than typing in known URL of a site, to get to a site
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If you RTFA, the domain name keeps changing, so it's difficult to remember when that happens.
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if you follow the tech news site articles, the domain name has been announced in those, including the most recent change of April 24th
Started 2008
changed to kat.ph in April 2011
kickass.to in June 2013
kickass.so in December 2014
then on April 23 2015 for one day kickass.tm then then next day
April 24 to kat.cr
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If you RTFA, it mentioned the fact that they are currently domain-hopping due to their domains being shutdown. It's hard to remember a domain that isn't the same as the one you visited last time.
To agree to this, and show one can't be sure if it's a real or fake site there are at least 100 thepiratebay sites https://www.robtex.com/q/x1?q=... [robtex.com] odd thing about the list is the real address (or last good address) is at the very bottom.
tldr (Score:2)
The real winners (Score:5, Insightful)
The real winners are the malware creators that get their sites listed at the top now.
In order to take down the torrent trackers providing grey warez the real black ware market feeding the true criminals and terrorists are getting free space to install adware and whatnot instead.
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That is an interesting side effect. If Google is actually manually nuking the true site, you would think they'd take the extra five minutes to go a bit deeper, rather than serve up malware.
In all honesty, I'd respect Google (and the folks who want Google to manage/censor results) if a search for that name came up with a box saying "Yeah, we know what you want, but we're not going to show it to you because [reasons]".
Free account (but credit card number) required (Score:1)
The thing I never understood about the Kickass torrents site is that to use it they want you to sign up for a "free account", but to get one you need to supply your credit card info. Yeah, I don't think so. I'll go elsewhere, thanks.
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That's not likely to be the real site.
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I have an account on Kickass and I was never asked for a credit card number, just a working email address. Anything asking for a card number as verification is almost certainly a scam.
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DMCA (Score:2)
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Is that why there is barely any yify release?
Kickass is dying anyway (Score:1)
I'm finding it increasingly hard to find decent releases on kickass and have started moving back to the pirate bay.
Hopeful (Score:2)
Let's hope that the agency responsible for this has thousands of users searching for TV-series on the office computers and get directed by Google to the Number 1 malware site where they download said malware on the office computers.
Penalty for whom? (Score:2)
This is just as much a punishment to Google's own users, as it is to Kickass's. People who type in the search query are obviously looking to get to the site, not whatever malware-ridden crap Google is serving up now. Google is making their own service shittier, just to punish somebody else...way to cut your nose off to spite your face.
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uBlock Origin has prevented the following page from loading:
http://kickass.to/
Because of the following filter
||kickass.to^
Found in: Malware filter list by Disconnect
I'd take it's word for it, read the post below (the .to site has been down a few years now)
Re:signs you may be ignorant twat when using brows
by iggymanz
But they still use the old IP address's out of Montréal, Canada; this game of hide and seek isn't working all that well.
Kickass.to
The IP address 68.71.58.34
The IP address 78.138.99.144
The IP address 205.204.64.122
"Which hostnames and domains point to the same IP address as kickass.to? kat.cr"
https://www.robtex.com/en/advi... [robtex.com]
Kat.cr
The IP address 68.71.58
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uBlock Origin has prevented the following page from loading:
http://kickass.to/
Because of the following filter
||kickass.to^
Found in: Malware filter list by Disconnect
Depends upon where uBlock gets it's information, while one shouldn't use this as a source or cite (it's poorly maintained) Kat.to has a bad scorecard with a grand total of 32-10=22, the -10 due to "45 pages found, triggering on average 1% antiviruses"