High Court Orders UK ISPs To Block EBook Sites 138
An anonymous reader writes: The UK High Court has ordered British ISPs to block seven websites that help users find unauthorized copies of eBooks. Under the order, BT, Virgin, Sky, EE and TalkTalk must block AvaxHome, Bookfi, Bookre, Ebookee, Freebookspot, Freshwap and LibGen within the next ten days. “We are very pleased that the High Court has granted this order and, in doing so, recognizes the damage being inflicted on UK publishers and authors by these infringing websites,” says Richard Mollet, Chief Executive of The Publishers Association. “A third of publisher revenues now come from digital sales but unfortunately this rise in the digital market has brought with it a growth in online infringement. Our members need to be able to protect their authors’ works from such illegal activity; writers need to be paid and publishers need to be able to continue to innovate and invest in new talent and material.”
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The UK High Court has ordered British ISPs to block a website that helps users find several websites that help users find unauthorized copies of eBooks. Under the order, BT, Virgin, Sky, EE and TalkTalk must block Slashdot within the next ten days. “We are very pleased that the High Court has granted this order and, in doing so, recognizes the damage being inflicted on UK publishers and authors by this infringing website,” says Richard Mollet, Chief Executive of The Publishers Association. “A third of publisher revenues now come from digital sales but unfortunately this rise in the digital market has brought with it a growth in online infringement. Our members need to be able to protect their authors’ works from such illegal activity; writers need to be paid and publishers need to be able to continue to innovate and invest in new talent and material.”
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I have to say, I never hard of these sites either. :)
Thank The Publishers Association for the tip
Nah I'll still buy my stuff.. But I wonder how something like this can progress as far as to court without someone telling the execs how futile it is to block websites.
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I wonder why they did not just block search engines? They work just as well, throw a few switches/words and you will get the same result. One site linking to many does not a difference make.
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That makes me wonder how much revenue they are actually losing.
Clearly not enough.
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My original post was merely a jest of the Streisand effect;
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CleanFeed [wikipedia.org], built by British Telecom to block access to child abuse imagery, sold to other ISPs, then inevitably abused as a blunt instrument to enforce copyrights. It's a two-
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Yes, thank you, didn't know most of them, now I have plenty of sites to search for books.
You'd think High Court judges would be more familiar with common terms such as Streisand effect, but thank god they aren't, or thank buddha or anyone else you might like to thank, I thank the UK high court judges.
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You can thank the Invisible Pink Unicorn, of course!
Re:Protects Internet users (Score:5, Funny)
Sometimes I see a strip club that I could go to, and I wonder if I'd break some sort of agreement with my wife if I do.
FTFY.
Good On The Brits! (Score:2, Insightful)
I know that this won't be popular here, but good on the Brits.
Make sure you don't visit AvaxHome [avxhome.se], BookFi [bookfi.org], Bookre [bookre.org], Ebookee [ebookee.biz], Freebookspot [freebookspot.es] Freshwap [freshwap.biz] or LibGen [libgen.org]
Don't visit those sites. Just don't!
Re:Libgen (Score:5, Insightful)
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Oh please, it's not the 1970s anymore. The majority (vast majority perhaps) of ebook authors are self published individuals who worked for months or years to produce their creations, only to have some yahoo in Eastern Europe swipe it for their own benefit. The "greedy media moguls" you imagine are less a part of the picture than ever before. And authors are the most vulnerable to online piracy - musicians can do live gigs, movies make it at the box office or through syndication - what other means does a wri
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The self-published authors would hardly be represented by TPA, right? TPA says "writers need to be paid and publishers need to be able to continue to innovate and invest in new talent and material." -- IOW sure, the authors might suffer, but the important thing is that we can shaft them for money. I mean seriously, what are those "innovations" that the publishers have come up with? e-books? Nope. Self-publish solutions? Nope. Oh, I know -- sales bolstered by the self-feedback effect of bestseller lists, DRM
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I agree - the post wasn't in support of traditional publishing - but in this case they helped authors who weren't in their stable as well; I doubt the criminals only ripped off writers from large publishing houses.
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what other means does a writer have to earn money beyond direct sales?
As far as secondary revenue streams go, authors can license their IP to TV [sho.com], Movie [nicholassparks.com] and Video Game [icewinddale.com] makers or they can sell [brandonsanderson.com] merchandise [litographs.com] themselves.
But that requires they build a fanbase. And in that endeavor, a literary agent is far more beneficial than an industry trade group whose only interest in an individual author is whether they've paid their membership dues who goes out and does boneheaded things that are more likely to incite spite in burgeoning literary fans and thus encourage and spread piracy rathe
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As far as secondary revenue streams go, authors can license their IP to TV [sho.com], Movie [nicholassparks.com] and Video Game [icewinddale.com] makers or they can sell [brandonsanderson.com] merchandise [litographs.com] themselves.
That's a bit like saying coders can just make a game then license the IP to TV stations, moviemakers, writers and merchandisers as a secondary revenue stream. It happens but it's rare enough that it may as well not exist for most. Musicians on the other hand almost all play gigs (as well as being able to sell their music to videogame makers, TV shows and movies), and the movie industry practically invented merchandising as well as other avenues of income.
But that requires they build a fanbase. And in that endeavor, a literary agent is far more beneficial than an industry trade group
Literary agents liaise between writers and publishers
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That's a bit like saying coders can just make a game then license the IP to TV stations, moviemakers, writers and merchandisers as a secondary revenue stream. It happens but it's rare enough that it may as well not exist for most. Musicians on the other hand almost all play gigs (as well as being able to sell their music to videogame makers, TV shows and movies), and the movie industry practically invented merchandising as well as other avenues of income.
That's like saying someone can go out and write books, get them published and sell enough copies to make a decent living doing it. It happens, but it's rare enough that it might as well not exist for most.
"It's hard" doesn't refute the fact that it's possible. It's a lot more possible than increasing sales by targeting piracy.
Literary agents liaise between writers and publishers/producers etc. They have nothing to do with building up a fanbase, most authors do all of their marketbuilding themselves, in their own time, on their own dime.
I have a family member who is preparing to release a book at this very moment. Her literary agent's first action was to put together a marketing team to promote the book in order to gr
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That's like saying someone can go out and write books, get them published and sell enough copies to make a decent living doing it.
Who said anything about making a living doing it? How about making what you can doing it, a pursuit aided not in any way by piracy.
I have a family member who is preparing to release a book at this very moment. Her literary agent's first action was to put together a marketing team to promote the book in order to grease the wheels in selling the book to a publisher.
Great, my maiden aunt is a kung fu ninja. Even if some very unusual literary agents organise marketing teams you can bet your ass they aren't doing it out of their own pocket.
Are you really one of those mindless idiots who jumps on the cock of the media conglomerates and believes that every connection to a torrent swarm is a lost sale?
Who really cares, stealing from authors in one way or another is as low as it gets.
One of the first books I got for free was a the first piece of Twilight fan fiction from an unknown author on Smashwords who was certainly not a well known, filthy rich author at the time. The book wasn't my cup of tea, but it seems to have worked out fairly well for the author.
Right, so now book piracy is actually helpful. Are there any further moral pretzels you'd like to wheel out, inquiring mind
And so it continues (Score:5, Insightful)
It started out with a politicial promise: We won't ever block more than this secret list of child pornography maintained by the "internet watch foundation". In the meantime there's a general porn filter (with weasel wording in the law turning "opt-in" and "opt-out" on their heads), the music industry got a couple blocks in, and so the book industry couldn't stay behind, now could they? More importantly: Who's next?
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Who's next?
movie4k and alluc, obviously.
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My favorites folder is now so full it is bursting. Folders are cheap and bandwidth is a static cost. Keep them coming. :D
VIPBox and ZMovie are a couple that are rather reliable. Not much beats a little education and Google though.
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Who's next?
Sorry, that information has been blocked.
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Consumption's up (Score:4, Insightful)
From TFS:
this rise in the digital market has brought with it a growth in online infringement
I'm willing to bet consumption, both legitimate and illegitimate, is up; so I wonder how much damage this "rise in piracy" is actually doing. At the end of the day I could go and hunt down a pirate copy of the book I need, find a website that actually allows me to download it, avoid the viruses and so forth. Or I could just buy it easily from Amazon, and strip the DRM for backup purposes. You see the legitimate content has a massive advantage here: It's much easier to get and comes with the ability to sync notes etc. with the cloud (if you don't mind Amazon knowing your reading habits), while it's not too difficult to remove the DRM for a backup copy.
If I was a publisher I'd be far more worried that this incentivises me to read older, public domain books. Before I still had to go to the bookshop and buy them, and a publisher could probably get new books out at a competitive price if they wanted, whereas now I can just get them free from Guttenberg (or even Amazon themselves). And with many publishers trying to charge almost the same for a Kindle book as a print book I rarely buy new books for my Kindle, if I want to read one of them I buy the dead tree version instead. But often I just find some public domain reading material [arkhamarchivist.com] and the publishers loose my custom.
Re:Consumption's up (Score:4, Informative)
I'm willing to bet consumption, both legitimate and illegitimate, is up; so I wonder how much damage this "rise in piracy" is actually doing.
Quite a bit less than the whiny "we want to be last to market" bitches that keep suing their customers and otherwise treat them like crap. If you ignore the paid-for "studies" the effect is actually net positive. You have to remember that these are intangible "culture goods" that gain value with sharing.
That is, such goods make more money for the owners if more people have access to them. It's no secret that "airplay" is the be-all end-all for artists on radio and tv. Yet the focus of the big content cartel is on tightly controlling [torrentfreak.com] the material.
The late owner of Baen Books did the reverse, giving away for free a number of electronic books, calling it a license to print money [baenebooks.com].
IOW, if you ignore their own propaganda, the available sources, studies, and indications paint the sharing-decriers a bunch of doodie-heads.
If I was a publisher I'd be far more worried that this incentivises me to read older, public domain books.
Well, there's one reason why copyrights get extended every time the mouse threatens to become public domain. In fact, eg. google books considers re-issues of old, even centuries old, material to come with fresh copyright so things like the Illiad in a recent publication is considered protected under current terms as if it was published yesterday.
Yet at the same time over in Europe there's various countries that have country-wide rules propping up book prices to enable retention of large back-catalogues. So you pay more for every book including new ones because, you know, retaining old books in print is otherwise not profitable, or so the narrative goes. Make of that what you will.
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so I wonder how much damage this "rise in piracy" is actually doing.
None. Piracy increases income.
At the end of the day I could go and hunt down a pirate copy of the book I need, find a website that actually allows me to download it, avoid the viruses and so forth. Or I could just buy it easily from Amazon, and strip the DRM for backup purposes. You see the legitimate content has a massive advantage here: It's much easier to get and comes with the ability to sync notes etc. with the cloud (if you don't mind Amazon knowing your reading habits), while it's not too difficult to remove the DRM for a backup copy.
Most people just prefer to head over to a trusted torrent site, free from viruses and the like, and download a clean DRM-free copy. It's easier and quicker, and if they are young or don't have a credit card it is also affordable and possible for them to do. Pirate copies are always the best quality ones, unless the vendor goes DRM free, and even then... eBooks are relatively easy to convert from one format to another, but movies and music are more hassle and why would people bo
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I say the answer is actually more nuanced than that.
If you're a popular author, perhaps writing some rather popular erotic fiction, or vampires, or something, piracy probably has a measurable impact on the bottom line. But measurable in the sense that well, so instead of making $1,050,000, you only made $1M. Of course, in the grand scheme of things, it's a tiny amount of money.,
For indie authors, piracy does ha
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Most ebooks don't come with DRM attached. The hysteria on display in the comments here is hilarious - scumbags are stealing the hard work of authors - many of whom are completely independent these days - for their own financial gain, and people are clutching their pearls that said scumbags got blocked. As much as I'm in favour of freedom of information I don't see why take-a-punt Pavel in Assbacketonia should be seeing a red cent for the hard work put in by hundreds of thousands of writers. There's no part
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I find myself curious as to which world you live in...
Amazon's Kindle format comes with DRM (just got a note from B&N telling me that they're no longer allowed to do unencrypted Kindle format for their eBooks (though they provided a helpful guide to removing the DRM for backup purposes).
Default for most Nook books is encrypted ePub, though there are a few publishers that don't require encrypted ePub.
So, where are the "most books" coming from that are not DRM'd
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Amazon's Kindle format is DRM-optional, and when the bookseller is telling people how to strip out the DRM it may as well not exist. Not that it matters in the slightest, that a book has DRM applied to it doesn't give criminals the right to profit from the hard work of others, which was the point being made.
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Or I could just buy it easily from Amazon, and strip the DRM for backup purposes.
My take on this is that if I'm required to infringe copyright on a legally purchased product in order to make sensible use of it, why should I actually purchase it instead of just infringing copyright and getting it for free from a torrent?
For the record, I don't do either - I've steered away from ebooks entirely until the publishers stop taking the piss. Since books were invented there have been various generally accepted things that everyone did with them that ebooks don't allow you to do: e.g. if I buy a paper book, I can read it, then pass it on to my wife to read, lend it to a friend to read, stick it on the book shelf for years, then hand it onto kids to read, who can hand it onto their kids, or I can sell it, etc. Compare to the T&Cs of Google Play (as an example) which say that I'm not even allowed to lend my tablet to my wife so that she could read an ebook I purchased, let alone actually transfer it to someone else's device. When I can get ebooks with the same rights as I have for paper books, I'll think about buying some.
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I agree with you. That's why, as an author, I chose for my ebooks not to have any DRM. I'd rather someone who enjoyed my book lend it to a friend or family member and have them also enjoy it than not buy because of the DRM.
Frankly, I also don't really care how many individual readers download one of my books for their own enjoyment, especially if they take a moment to post a review or recommend it to someone else. That's darn near close enough to payment as far as I'm concerned. I do draw the line at anyone
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My take on this is that if I'm required to infringe copyright on a legally purchased product in order to make sensible use of it, why should I actually purchase it instead of just infringing copyright and getting it for free from a torrent?
Because of the moral argument: while both of those may be illegal only one of them is immoral.
(Pedantic moment:Also DRM removal, while often illegal, is not copyright infringement.)
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Because of the moral argument: while both of those may be illegal only one of them is immoral.
I'd counter that by saying that supporting publishers that over-restrict the public's rights is immoral.
(Pedantic moment:Also DRM removal, while often illegal, is not copyright infringement.)
DRM removal is covered by the European Union *COPYRIGHT* Directive, and the US's Digital Millennium *COPYRIGHT* Act.
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DRM removal is covered by the European Union *COPYRIGHT* Directive, and the US's Digital Millennium *COPYRIGHT* Act.
So? It's illegal. It's still only copyright infringement if you then use the work in some way you're not licensed to.
VPNs and proxies (Score:2)
How long before all traffic other than Netflix and Hulu appears to originate and end in Eastern Europe? For a few things (like those mentioned) it helps to be inside a specific zone, but for just about everything else, it helps to be outside the heavy-handed, censoring regimes.
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Re:VPNs and proxies (Score:5, Informative)
Using outside DNS doesn't help if the carrier is blocking access to an IP address.
BTW another alternate DNS you can add to your list: Velocity Networks (Los Angeles): 206.126.128.2 - it's not as easy to remember as 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 for sure, but some people don't want to be bound to Google.
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BT don't (and I don't think Virgin do either). They just alter their DNS records to point to a different server.
UK users would be better off using the OpenDNS servers than Velocity's.
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Nope. My DNS is set to OpenDNS. I can then get to TPB. If I use BT DNS I get "domain blocked" redirection.
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Or run your own DNS Server (Score:2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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https://piratebrowser.com/ [piratebrowser.com]
Firefox with Tor pre-integrated and configured. Give the link to your friends.
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There is already a Tor client in Firefox, it's called Tor Browser Bundle... TBB.
But that is half baked and the WRONG approach to solve the problem.
What needs to happen is that the ENTIRE FILSHARING ECOSYSTEM needs to go underground into the darknets.
All these blocked websites need to move onto anonymous networks. That's MOVE, permanently, not multihome.
ALL your torrenting needs to be done with you and all peers and trackers being ONLY and ENTIRELY within anonymous networks.
Those networks can be I2P, Phantom
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Interestingly, the UK is still very much opposed to censorship in other countries.
On the contrary. The UK wants to expand censorship (starting with Porn what else ?!) in the EU.
It's the other EU countries that are giving the finger to the UK. Fucking island of puritans. The faster they're kicked out/go out volontarily of the EU the better for the rest of us.
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> BT, Virgin, Sky, EE and TalkTalk
there are many other ISP's in the uk who do not respond to censorship requests.
I use andrews and arnold and they don't filter anything , not cheap but they are very good.
almost all of this filtering is at DNS level anyway so its trivial to bypass it if you know the ip or can find a valid ip.
Internet censorship is only attempted by people who fundamentally fail to understand it.
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well its deep pockets or deep packets , i know which i prefer.
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Why do the Brits hate freedom?
Whac-A-Mole (Score:4, Funny)
I think, as a Brit, I can explain the way the law has been structured here...
You see, culturally we love Whac-A-Mole style games. The current decision-making generation having grown up with them in arcades and fairs and there is a massive sense of nostalgia for them.
Hence, when there is an opportunity to enact legislation that has you striking down a website only to encourage dozens of near-identical ones to pop up overnight... well - we go all starry-eyed and start humming old 8-bit arcade tunes to ourselves.
Finally forced me to install a VPN client (Score:1)
Things are going to get exponentially worse in the UK- a model of state Internet censorship is being carefully crafted here in order to encourage oppressive States in the West's sphere of influence to do the same, using Britain as the excuse. The purpose is not really to censor Brits, but to give justification to African, Asian and Middle East hell-holes to 'copy' the 'mother of Parliaments' and remove free Internet access form their citizens.
In Britain, one can just VPN past these minor irritants. In the n
Needs don't make rights (Score:2)
Censorship in the UK (Score:5, Insightful)
First they started censoring child porn. This is totally acceptable, child porn is bad. Nobody dared to say anything.
Then they started censoring pirate sites. This was for the children also, I guess. People objecting these changes are mean pirates! Don't listen to them!
Then they started censoring youtube videos with "dubious" political agenda. When some people complained, it was "only an option to remove videos", blaah blaah blaah.
Now they are starting to censor books.
While there is still time, I suggest you read Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury and 1984 by Georgy Orwell. That should give you a pretty good picture where this is going..
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This is hardly something new. Books have been censored since before the invention of the printing press, especially if they are about the secret services or might leak information that the government considers sensitive. Before the internet the BBFC pretty effectively controlled what British people could see. There is a specific law allowing the government to censor newspapers.
Despite the on-going assault on freedom, we are winning and will continue to win. The internet massively increased our freedom and b
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It also seems like people are actually taking some notice, and we're winning some battles here and there. SOPA. Patriot Act expiration (we hope). We're seeing judges take notice that the government going through your phone or computer is not the same as rummaging through a backpack at a border/airport security check.
Not saying "the tide has turned" or anything, and there are miles to go, but getting fucked in the ass no longer seems like a foregone conclusion.
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Don't you guys care at all?
I'm in the UK, I've read 1984 and I do care. And, like many of us, I didn't vote for this stupid government.
As for ISP's, on Plus Net currently, but I'm all ready to switch to Andrews & Arnold at the drop of a hat if any of this crap gets in the way of my internet use (or possibly when I actually need IPV6, whichever happens first) Incidentally, Cameron is quite likely pleased about the Eu threat to make internet censorship illegal. He'll play the "think of the children" card for all it's worth in the
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...like most of us, I didn't vote for this stupid government.
FTFY. Disproportional voting got us into this mess. But parties voted in aren't exactly going to change the way votes are counted.
/still bitter
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Labour might consider it now. With the probably long-term loss of Scotland, FPTP doesn't really give them much benefit over proportional representation, but it benefits the Tories a lot.
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I'm in the UK too, and as much as this ever steepening slippery slope has accelerated - i've passed through the phase of caring what ill conceived ideas politicians attempt to subject their corner of the internet to.
Instead i think we need to thank them in the same way that we thank malicious users for highlighting a poor design, the internet needs to be more decentralised (yes i know darknet etc, but it needs to be decentralised and un-cencorable for everyone, not just some obscure part of the web). Well e
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Cameron has a plan to get us out of Europe? Seemed like he wanted to keep us in to me.
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While there is still time, I suggest you read Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury and 1984 by Georgy Orwell. That should give you a pretty good picture where this is going..
I would, but my favourite online book site seem to be down.
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Strawman much?!? What a load of crap. I'm not pro-censorship but they ARE NOT CENSORING BOOKS. No more than arresting (actual Captain Phillips type) pirates is censoring free trade.
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1984 by Georgy Orwell
I tried to a while back, but it mysteriously vanished off of my reader.
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Since when has blocking some pirate sites been the same as censoring the content? Hysterical, much?
I'm no advocate of piracy, but the principle of allowing government-controlled selective blocking of information (for *any* reason, to start with) sets a dangerous precedent.
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To be fair, they're blocking access to copyrighted works for which the copyright holder has not authorized a copy. So, it's not really anything new...
(I hate copyright law as much as the next rabid /.er, but just sayin',)
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"Now they are starting to censor books."
Since when has blocking some pirate sites been the same as censoring the content? Hysterical, much?
"That should give you a pretty good picture where this is going.."
Its simply treating the internet like any other media - ie subject to the law. If you don't like the law vote for someone who'll change it. In the meantime stop whining like some tin foil hat hippy whos just stepped out of 1975.
“The average TV commercial of sixty seconds has one hundred and twenty half-second clips in it, or one-third of a second. We bombard people with sensation. That substitutes for thinking.” Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451
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Well, the censorship goes for the paper versions as well...I guess it is easier to do it in electronic format. My reply is off-topic but I just could not let this comment pass. The book market, being in the hands of corporations suffers from two issues at least:
- General censorship - only authors that are not "too controversial" are published. It is those corporations that decide which author deserves publicity, so you can have excellent books that no-one ever heard of. I have read very serious articles fro
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I wonder if Ishmael (Daniel Quinn) would get published today? Or 1984 or Fahrenheit 451?
More than 120 domains are currently blocked (Score:2)
More than 120 domains are currently blocked by the country’s major ISPs
so how are they blocking domains? in DNS?
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Yes, for sites like TPB and the ones listed in TFA. Others, like child porn sites, are subject to DPI.
Great Firewall UK Edition (Score:2)
UK ISPs could buy this technology from China
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Good luck (Score:1)
Thanks. (Score:2)
I want to thank the high court as well to have alerted me to a handful of sites I didn't know about, to illegally download my books from.
Perhaps even one where I can learn not to finish my sentences with a preposition.
Links (Score:2)
For those too lazy to Google, here are the links to save.
http://libgen.org/ [libgen.org]
http://en.bookfi.org/ [bookfi.org]
http://freshwap.ws/ [freshwap.ws]
http://www.freebookspot.es/ [freebookspot.es]
http://ebookee.org/index.php?t... [ebookee.org]
http://bookre.org/ [bookre.org]
http://avxhome.se/ebooks [avxhome.se]
Why are Books Important ? (Score:1)
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Dat Streisand effect... (Score:1)
"once" (Score:3)
"It's nothing compared to what will be thrust upon us once those two trade deals go through."
Also it's "two", not "2"; we might be slashdot, but for god's sake we don't type like 12 year olds!
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I've been wondering for a while whether the affected ISPs would have cause to sue the government/courts/publishers for compensation as a result of losing customers due to the enforced filtering (which doesn't apply to smaller ISPs). TTIP sounds like it would open up that possibility if they can't already...
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Go and write a textbook yourself if you think its so unfair? Oh, whats that? You can't? Well then stop whining about people who can making some money out of their efforts. Or it you don't believe effort should be rewarded then I presume you'll be working for free for the rest of your life?