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Chinese Researchers' 'Terror Cam' Could Scan Crowds, Looking for Stress 146

concertina226 (2447056) writes Scientists at China's Southwest University in Chongqing are working on a new type of camera that takes Big Brother to a whole new level – the camera is meant to detect highly stressed individuals so that police can catch them before they commit a crime. The camera makes use of hyperspectral imaging, i.e. a 'stress sensor' that measures the amount of oxygen in blood across visible areas of the body, such as the face. Chinese authorities are deeply concerned about the recent spate of deadly attacks occurring in public places, such as the mass stabbing attack by eight knife-wielding extremists in the city of Kunming, Yunnan in March, which left 29 civilians dead and over 140 others injured.
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Chinese Researchers' 'Terror Cam' Could Scan Crowds, Looking for Stress

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  • Psycho Pass (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Major Ralph ( 2711189 ) on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @10:54AM (#47654915)
    And before long they'll be labeling people as latent criminals and locking them up before they ever even commit a crime.
    • minority report, coming to a china near yu!
    • by durrr ( 1316311 )

      >Please officer I'm 20 minutes late for work not a terrorist!
      >Sorry, we need to verify your identity and make you 20 minutes later
      >Portable scanner: warning stress level increasing, violence imminent
      "Sorry boss, I got shot on my way to work this morning"

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Sybil has determined your PsychoPass hue is too green. Please report to a therapy center immediately.

      Strive for a clear hue!
      Strive for a clear hue!

  • by Chrisq ( 894406 ) on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @10:58AM (#47654941)
    People on the way to the dentist, or a job interview, or even a first date might get called in. At the same time Muslims take great pains to brutalise and desensitise [dailymail.co.uk] their kids so they will be less likely to show stress.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      I think it will be a good way to determine where public bathrooms are needed.

    • by dave420 ( 699308 )
      There you go again complaining about Muslims. You really are a tiny-minded, scared xenophobe. It sounds like you and your ilk would set these sensors off in a heart-beat, as you seem utterly scared of Muslims, of whom you seem to know next to nothing. You are pathetic.
      • by Agares ( 1890982 )
        I think they may just be refering to extremists/terrorists and didn't stop to think about how they typed that out.
      • Certainly, not all Muslims ... I know many who are nice and normal and sane. I suspect the majority of them are, just like everybody else is.

        But if you think a 7 year old holding a severed head and posing for a photo is anything but desensitized to violence then I'd love to know what you consider 'normal'.

        The extremists have taken barbarism and disregard for life to some pretty disgusting levels.

        I'm betting you take the average happy, well adjusted child and show them a severed head, and they won't be posi

    • Because Muslim is a synonym of terrorist, right? Congratulations, your brainwash is finished, just don't read the wrong news http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us... [nbcnews.com].
  • The problem with this kind of tech is a combination of false positive and police harassment of false positives.

    Suddenly anyone with high blood pressure is a suspect.

    I wonder if when tech will get deployed at customs.

  • In other news... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by fuzzyfuzzyfungus ( 1223518 ) on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @11:05AM (#47654993) Journal
    'Terrorists' quickly discover that a few milligrams of clonazepam right before the big martyrdom operation is way less haram than getting shitfaced and at least as effective at masking anxiety. In other news, state security services are stretched thin in their new battle against 'cosmetics', a class of nefarious concealment powders and pigments specifically designed to mask the user's true facial state. On a happier note, authorities report that perps with anxiety disorders are much easier to interrogate than the other kind and credit a 58% increase in the number and detail of mostly-voluntary confessions to a new focus on these low resistance criminals...
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      This also won't work against the "terrorist" Buddhist monks who have decades of training in maintaining a perfectly zen state of calmness even in extreme situations... however their shaven heads and robes might be a dead give away.

      "The Chinese foreign ministry has accused the Dalai Lama of "terrorism in disguise" for supporting Tibetans who have set themselves on fire in protest against Beijing's rule." - http://www.theguardian.com/wor... [theguardian.com]

      • Actually for the Tibetan monks its a push.

        Meditative practices can also help a person increase the flow of oxygenated blood in their body (what Qi really means) and help with the ability to consciously direct it.

        (slips on robes) "These are not the terrorists you're looking for."

  • You could just change the government there and allow people more freedoms, including religion. Being fascist dickwads certainly isn't helping things. I'm not an advocate for religious practice however peoples' beliefs can force them to do something awful just to draw attention to their plight. Instead of stabbing people randomly, people being repressed in China could be like Shen Yun [goo.gl] and put on a show about it. No? Well okay carry on then creating something that'll put more people in jail or bring bac

    • Being fascist dickwads certainly isn't helping things.

      You're completely missing the [oh-so-fucking-simple] point: being Fascist dickwads helps Fascists with their Fascist agendas.

      • Well sadly FDs also get help from those Democracy loving nations around the world so it's not just fascists helping fascists out there. Lots of companies for example are helping the repression in Bahrain but nobody really says much because "there one of the good Arab nations"

    • Being fascist dickwads certainly isn't helping things

      Find me one Western government that isn't trending in this direction. If you think that most of them aren't moving that way, you haven't been paying attention.

      The difference is really only in why you tell people you're doing this stuff, not that you're doing this stuff.

      You don't think America would deploy terror cams at the drop of a hat? If you don't, you're sadly deluded.

      The difference being, they'll tell people it's for their own safety, and people w

      • Yeah and they do it because we let them do it. Frankly I have more hope of turning around the situation of over-surveillance all in the name of stopping crime/terrorism. Unfortunately in China, the people don't have much of a choice in the matter at all. It would be an opportunity to take the lead in China for human rights by getting rid of this system of repressing society and maybe the world would follow that lead.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      I hope you know Falun Gong is a cult devoted to a single man, and deprives its followers of every single freedom. The western depiction is like the western depiction of Tibetan Budhism as saintly when reality of history shows it as brutal when in power. Think dismemberment for petty crimes. Falun Gong is worse.

  • This would be great to use in sweatshops! You'd need fewer armed guards and you'd be able to see who is too relaxed (AKA slacking off)! Oh, panoptic society, I thought you were just a fantasy!

    Wait, 1984 wasn't a guidebook? Well, then why have been working towards all the same tech? Oh... we're idiots. Got it.

  • In the attempt of "detecting stress", they would probably be "causing stress" because there is now always someone watching you (not that you might be committing anything, just the lack of comfort due to people always watching you). So pretty much getting rid of people who has the potential of camera shyness
  • Maybe China should stop being so shitty to its people.

  • Chinese Researchers' 'Terror Cam'

    At first I read that as "Chinese Researchers' 'Terror Clam'...

    We live in strange times; anything's possible.

  • False positives aside, it can also serve as another excuse to arrest whoever you want because "they look guilty".
  • ...in the National People's Congress (China's parliament).

    I wonder how many potential criminals they'll find within the halls of government.

  • by NoNonAlphaCharsHere ( 2201864 ) on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @11:20AM (#47655121)
    What is needed is more knife-control laws, or, as they're known in this country, "knife-safety" laws. It is self-evident that if the government were to take away everyone's knives, these kinds of incidents would cease.
    • by dave420 ( 699308 )
      As knives are essential to feed oneself, so equating them with different, singular-use weapons only reflects poorly on you, not those with whom you seem to disagree.
      • As civil liberties are not contingent on one's "need" to exercise them, I'm not sure what point you thought you were making here.

        • by Anonymous Coward

          Civil liberties don't routinely extend to manufacturing devices specifically designed to kill other people and then handing them out to anyone who wants them without any questions being asked. Even devices with other uses but that are demonstrably dangerous to other people get limits placed on them to ensure people are competent (e.g., cars) before letting them loose in public spaces. There is no "right to drive", for example. You have to show that you have a *very*basic* level of competence.

          The fact tha

          • Civil liberties don't routinely extend to manufacturing devices specifically designed to kill other people and then handing them out to anyone who wants them without any questions being asked.

            I'll bet you're one of those people who thinks hunters are cruel for killing animals, and that the only meat people should buy is what they "make" at the store, so no animals get hurt.

            You know - a moron.

  • No one is ever stressed out, unless they are planning a terror attack. No job interviews, arguments with the spousal unit, kids run off, financial problems...

    The only thing surprising is that this article isn't about something in the UK or the US. Probably that's where it will first be installed, so that more names can be added to the terrorist watch list.

  • "PSYCHO-PASS" a japanese anime which actually succeeds to show the audience a possible future if this idea is truly realised.

    Just my 2 Cents, but this idea is going to fail badly. - Just noticed...other individuals oscillate on my frequency.
  • Stop the crime before it happens.
    Someone should make a movie about this.

  • And just throw everyone in jail who happens to be unemployed. That will save you a whole lot of time.


  • inmate: So youre the new guy. I got 15 years for murder. what did you do?
    new guy: suspicion of terrorism at a train station. The cops said their new camera detected my enormous amount of stress.
    inmate: thats gutsy. So, did ya pull it off? the terror attack?
    new guy: if by terror attack you mean a taco bell breakfast, then yeah. Im sure theres a plumber and a janitor that are pretty terrorized by me.
  • by penguinoid ( 724646 ) on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @12:21PM (#47655605) Homepage Journal

    The US has had this for a while. It wasn't much news for us, because we have legitimate terrorist concerns (they killed almost as many people as peanuts did back in 2001!).

    • For a split second I was thinking this tech would be useful in schools to spot people about to go on a murder spree, but then I remembered that a school would have an ungodly false positive rate. It would be interesting to see if it would be of much use to find people who are being regularly bullied, spot those who are under constant stress in school and reach out to them to provide assistance, long before they go on a murder spree.

  • All workers in the foxconn buildings have been arrested after the implementation of the stress cams.
  • by LduN ( 3754243 )
    Hope they don't combine this with this [slashdot.org], would make it pretty messy
  • psycho pass anyone?
  • Any anti-terrorist system has the same problem. Even if this is 99% accurate, the amount of false positives would overwhelm the system.

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