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The NSA's New Partner In Spying: Saudi Arabia's Brutal State Police 125

Advocatus Diaboli sends this news from The Intercept: The National Security Agency last year significantly expanded its cooperative relationship with the Saudi Ministry of Interior, one of the world's most repressive and abusive government agencies. An April 2013 top secret memo provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden details the agency's plans "to provide direct analytic and technical support" to the Saudis on "internal security" matters. The Saudi Ministry of Interior—referred to in the document as MOI— has been condemned for years as one of the most brutal human rights violators in the world. In 2013, the U.S. State Department reported that "Ministry of Interior officials sometimes subjected prisoners and detainees to torture and other physical abuse," specifically mentioning a 2011 episode in which MOI agents allegedly "poured an antiseptic cleaning liquid down [the] throat" of one human rights activist. The report also notes the MOI's use of invasive surveillance targeted at political and religious dissidents.
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The NSA's New Partner In Spying: Saudi Arabia's Brutal State Police

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  • by danbuter ( 2019760 ) on Friday July 25, 2014 @05:36PM (#47534869)
    I wouldn't be surprised at all if the US didn't set this agency up in the first place. At the very least, we probably provided the initial training.
  • by dremspider ( 562073 ) on Friday July 25, 2014 @06:00PM (#47535009)
    Had to go somewhere. []
  • What, no panopticon? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Andy_R ( 114137 ) on Friday July 25, 2014 @06:57PM (#47535363) Homepage Journal

    "The report also notes the MOI's use of invasive surveillance targeted at political and religious dissidents."

    So, arguably less evil than western governments, who use invasive surveillance targeted at absolutely everyone.

  • No Big Deal (Score:2, Interesting)

    by xdor ( 1218206 ) on Friday July 25, 2014 @09:30PM (#47536169)
    Since the CIA and Saudi worked together to organize 911, its only natural the relationship should continue...
  • Re:Foreshadowing? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by cold fjord ( 826450 ) on Saturday July 26, 2014 @01:55AM (#47537011)

    Seriously. Bradley/Chelsea Manning was tortured to the point of having severe psychological problems (I am not saying being transgendered is a psychological problem, but I strongly question any psychiatrist who would not wait several years until after Manning had access to therapy to get over the trauma of isolation and torture to determine that Manning is indeed transgendered and not just showing signs of having been tortured). America is 100% on the hook for that. One of our own.

    Sorry, but your view is total nonsense that isn't connected to the facts. Bradley Manning apparently had mental health and temperament issues long before he was arrested, and I doubt they are resolved. They seem to have played a role in the actions that put him in prison.

    WikiLeaks: Bradley Manning 'had history of suicidal thoughts' []

    ...Manning had contemplated suicide six to eight months earlier after his arrest in Iraq. The evidence included a noose Manning had fashioned from a bedsheet while confined in Kuwait, and a written statement he made upon arrival at Quantico in July 2010 that he was "always planning and never acting" on suicidal impulses. .... Blenis, who spent more time with Manning, said Manning chose not to speak most of the time except for short, yes-or-no answers. He said Manning spurned his offers to play chess or work brain teasers by arrogantly responding, "They're a little below my level."

    WikiLeaks: Private Bradley Manning sent superiors picture of himself dressed as a woman []

    Bradley Manning told his military superiors that he was emotionally unstable and sent them a picture of himself dressed as a woman but his warnings were never passed up a chaotic chain-of-command, a court heard on Friday. ...

    Pte Manning's civilian defence lawyer, David Coombs, told the court martial hearing that his client had sent a distressed email to his immediate supervisor, Master Sergeant Paul Watkins. "He told [Watkins] he was suffering a gender identity disorder and in that email even had a picture of himself dressed as a woman."

    In the email Pte Manning warned that his ability to work as an analyst of attacks by Shia militants in Iraq was being impaired by his emotional problems. .....

    On December 12, the defendant apparently became enraged during a meeting and knocked over a chair while screaming at more senior soldiers.

    Then on December 20, he allegedly flipped over a table during a counselling session, destroying the computer monitor that was sitting on top of it. Comrades had restrain him because they believed he was "going for a weapon rack", Mr Coombs told the court.

    Bradley Manning, suspected source of Wikileaks documents, raged on his Facebook page []

    Mr Manning, who is openly homosexual, began his gloomy postings on January 12, saying: "Bradley Manning didn't want this fight. Too much to lose, too fast."

    At the beginning of May, when he was serving at a US military base near Baghdad, he changed his status to: "Bradley Manning is now left with the sinking feeling that he doesn't have anything left."

    Five days later he said he was "livid" after being "lectured by ex-boyfriend", then later the same day said he was "not a piece of equipment" and was "beyond frustrated with people and society at large".

    His tagline on his personal page reads: "Take me for who I am, or face the consequences!"

  • by William Baric ( 256345 ) on Saturday July 26, 2014 @05:47AM (#47537483)

    All around the world, there are manifestations against Israel. I live in Quebec (Canada) and if I look at the what people post related to what's happening in Israel on our main newspapers' websites (mainly La Presse and Le Devoir...), I'd say a clear majority of native Quebecers (not Muslims) now have an anti-Israel sentiment. I guess the rest of Canada is a bit less anti-Israel, but I'd still say the general opinion is not pro-Israel. If the death toll were higher, the anti-Israel sentiment would probably become an anti-Jew sentiment, which would disrupt our society enough to force Harper to stop his blind support to Israel.

    Israel have the military means to kill a lot of Palestinians, but if it did so, it would end up isolated. And without the rest of the world's support, Israel simply can't survive. So I guess the goal of Israel is simply to strike fear among Palestinians. And for that, all Palestinians must think there's no place safe.

    Were the attacks on refugee centers voluntary? Did they deliberately targeted a few civilian to send a message? I'm guessing the answer is yes.

  • by Jeremiah Cornelius ( 137 ) on Saturday July 26, 2014 @04:22PM (#47539821) Homepage Journal

    Over a decade ago, Yonatan Shapira, then an Israeli air force pilot, bravely confronted his top commander, Lt. General Dan Halutz, over what were euphemistically called “targeted assassinations.” Israeli warplanes regularly fired missiles at Hamas leaders in Gaza, also killing innocent civilians, some of them children.

    Shapira asked General Halutz, What if a Hamas leader were located in Tel Aviv? Would you order our pilots to fire there, risking Israeli bystanders? Halutz said no.

    So you value Israelis over Palestinians, Yonatan responded. Get someone else to fly your aircraft.

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