Alleged Operator of Demonoid Released From Jail 60
An anonymous reader writes "Last August, BitTorrent tracker Demonoid was taken down by law enforcement in the Ukraine. This followed raids in Mexico to arrest the people who ran the site. Panama is somehow involved, too. However, a recent review filed by the U.S. Trade Representative reveals that the criminal case against the main (alleged) operator of Demonoid has stalled, and the person has been released from imprisonment. 'For how long the alleged Demonoid operator was imprisoned is not mentioned. However, the criminal case is ongoing according to the copyright holders, who further mention that it's now proceeding in Ukraine. Demonoid, meanwhile, has moved to Hong Kong where it found a new hosting company and a new .HK domain name. Whether the BitTorrent tracker will ever return to its full glory has yet to be seen.'"
It's just "Ukraine" (Score:3, Insightful)
It's just "Ukraine" not "the Ukraine." (Perhaps you're thinking of "the U.K.")
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Articles are not used in (current or former) Soviet Russia.
- Jhon, from The Los Angeles, The California, The U.S. (Hey, that one works!)
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- Jhon, from The Los Angeles, The California, The U.S.
Jhon, from the city of angels, the state of california, the united states of america
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Articles are not used in (current or former) Soviet Russia.
While true, that is irrelevant. We're talking about English usage. A Russian would say (in Russian) "I am going to cinema" but in English we say "I am going to the cinema". Whether it's a Russian cinema or not doesn't matter.
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Not this again. There's a reason some call it The Ukraine, old habits just die hard. Fortunately the internet champions of accuracy are here to save us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Ukraine#.22Ukraine.22_versus_.22The_Ukraine.22
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This is like BBC radio DJs in the 70s / 80s always referring to bands like Sweet, Pink Floyd and Buggles by putting "The" in front, even when there were other bands they didn't, like Art of Noise and Brotherhood of Man which almost cry out for the definite article.
I swear I heard "The Depeche Mode" once. Made me cringe.
Re:It's just "Ukraine" (Score:5, Interesting)
It's just "Ukraine" not "the Ukraine." (Perhaps you're thinking of "the U.K.")
The rule is that when it was part of the Soviet Union and a specific region, it was OK to call it "The Ukraine" but since independence the country has been quite clear in its official documents, embassy names, etc. that in the English language it is now simply known as Ukraine. Rules for other languages such as French may be different.
I got into an argument once via email with a Ukrainian woman in Kiev who insisted that because some English grammar book written in the 1980s (she actually quoted me the page and relevant section) said that it was "The Ukraine" that apparently this meant that until the end of time the country is to be called The Ukraine in the English speaking world. I thought it was a really odd argument to make as most Ukrainians will insist on not using the "The" when referring to their country if they can speak English, but it just goes to show you how old habits die hard.
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> The rule is that when it was part of the Soviet Union and a specific region, it was OK to call it "The Ukraine"
I wonder when The Bronx was part of the Soviet Union...
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As with Burma, it's not up to them what our name for their country is. Germany doesn't demand that we call it "Deutschland," and it would be broadly mocked if it tried.
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Also, one can note how "Torino" has ousted "Turin" except for a few set phrases (e.g. "Shroud of Turin").
No it hasn't, at least in the UK. I watched the Juventus game on TV last night, and everyone said they came from Turin. If they had said Torino, it would have confused everyone. The fact that most commentators here pronounce the team "Jew-ventus" is amusing, but it's up to us to decide, not the Italians.
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Can we now refer to old Holland as simply Netherlands?
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So who are the Dutch?
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Who cares? I certainly don't.
Re:There is no "the" in front of Ukraine (Score:5, Interesting)
I live in United States of America. We were formerly run by what is now United Kingdom, which is part of European Union.
"Ukraine" used to mean "borderland" or "homeland", which is one of the reasons using it with the article is so commonplace. To say using "the" is wrong in every single circumstance is wrong, you insensitive the clod.
Re:There is no "the" in front of Ukraine (Score:4, Insightful)
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The submitter lost me with "Panama is somehow involved, too." It's like Idiocracy has come to life and obtained its own website.
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The submitter lost me with "Panama is somehow involved, too." It's like Idiocracy has come to life and obtained its own website.
Naw, it's just the US copyright cops grasping at straws. Not to worry, they'll just send in the Marines again to clean house.
Re:There is no "the" in front of Ukraine (Score:5, Funny)
In Soviet Ukraine, insensitivity clods YOU.
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I find it hard to stop using "the" too, but it seems this is what Ukrainians want. They want the name to become more of a proper name than a description as a borderland. Even in Russian they have made some language adjustments to this end in recent times. So I guess its good to try and respect their wishes.
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I find it hard to stop using "the" too, but it seems this is what Ukrainians want
Did you mean the Ukrainians?
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I find it hard to stop using "the" too, but it seems this is what Ukrainians want. They want the name to become more of a proper name than a description as a borderland. Even in Russian they have made some language adjustments to this end in recent times. So I guess its good to try and respect their wishes.
Fine, so we should call Spain "Espana", Germany "Deutschland" and so on? Paris must be pronounced "Pa-ree", Barcelona "Bar-the-lona" and so on?
If the word "Ukraine" means "borderland to Russia" then they should have chosen a better name for their country. I don't see what difference having "the" makes anyway. If it translated as "silly place full of snow" would it really matter whether we called it Silly Place Full of Snow or The Silly Place Full of Snow?
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I always wondered how some countries got such wildly different names in other languages, Germany/Deutschland and Japan/Nippon being the strangest.
Actually I just found an article on the topic and those two are just the tip of the iceberg:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exonym [wikipedia.org]
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403 - Forbidden
So useful.
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I have tried from exit points in several countries.
the ukraine is weak (Score:2, Funny)
the ukraine is weak
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I come from Ukraine. You not say Ukraine weak.
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Yeah, well we're playing a game here, pal.
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Ukraine is game to you? How about I take your little board and smash
it!
No point in using demonoid... (Score:3, Informative)
The owner relinquished all of the seeder IP addresses, etc.
Why go to a tracker site that will rat you out?
Re:No point in using demonoid... (Score:5, Insightful)
The seeders IP address were public knowledge. The entire point of the tracker is to release the seeders IP addresses. I have no problem with this. If there are users on there that want to hide what they are doing there are much better ways to go about it. If you're involved in this sort of thing, you've got to assume the industry is going to find out the IP address you hosted from. Best make sure that IP address doesn't lead back to you.
Ukrainian Justice (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Ukrainian Justice (Score:4, Insightful)
So the Ukrainian judiciary system is not that much different from the West's. Both follow the golden rule: he who has the gold makes the rules.
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It will be interesting to see the outcome, but whatever the verdict is, I have no doubts that it will be completely dishonest and someone will have bribed or cajoled their way into it.
In other words, it's just like the US?
There's always copycat demonoid.mk (Score:2)
http://demonoid.mk/ [demonoid.mk]
works pretty good, although I don't like the interface, it has all the goodies, usually released on demonoid.mk / kat.ph / thepiratebay.se all at same time.
id much rather the original demonoid though
THE? (Score:5, Insightful)
So the big part of this story is whether on not there should be a The in front of Ukraine? Nothing about the legality of what's been happening or whether Demoniod will return?
ive been in jail on both sides of the border (Score:1)
with my long blonde hair
i much prefer the usa jail
So... (Score:3)
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Because first, they come for the torrent tracker owners, though nobody speaks up as they do not own torrent trackers.
Al Ukraine (Score:2)
The Panama (Score:1)