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Printable AR-15 Mag Gets More Reliable; YouTube Pulls Video of Demo 450

Wired reports that the 3-D printed AR-15 magazine from Defense Distributed we mentioned a few weeks back has been improved through design, and is now robust enough to last through firing (at least) several hundred rounds, rather than fewer than a hundred as in the previous iteration. CNET says the video demonstration on YouTube was first yanked, then restored, but as of now seems to have been yanked again.
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Printable AR-15 Mag Gets More Reliable; YouTube Pulls Video of Demo

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  • Yanked? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 09, 2013 @12:36PM (#42843723)

    The message says it violates Youtubes police against "spams, scams and commercially deceptive" videos..

    How, exactly? Is google jumping into this dumbshit political dickwaving contest now?

  • Re:Yanked? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by scottbomb ( 1290580 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @12:39PM (#42843745) Journal

    They've been in the political dickwaving contest for a long time now. Guess who's side they're on?

  • by tokencode ( 1952944 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @12:44PM (#42843801)
    Youtube (AKA Google) is being intellectually dishonest and going back on its ideal of providing unbiased free access to information. Google has become an active filterer of this information. The video is not graphic, it is not sexual, it is relevant and political and Google has decided that is not appropriate for viewers.... Thank you Big Brother Google for protecting me from information. Maybe we should start filtering books, or speech?
  • by Sipper ( 462582 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @12:54PM (#42843889)

    Streisand effect for the win.

    Basically that's where this is headed. "The more you tighten your grip, the more this is going to slip through your fingers." We're basically headed down the path of building our own weapons from scratch, just like what has happened in warzones elsewhere.

  • by TemperedAlchemist ( 2045966 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @01:18PM (#42844071)

    Sometimes I wonder about Aaron Swartz. Given my propensity to being similar in thoughts, I often find it odd he would have simply given up without a plan. I've reached a conclusion that perhaps his suicide was part of the plan. Because he just didn't have the resources to fight the corrupt system, and he figured he would be better suited as a martyr than to go down and serve a thirty year prison sentence.

    Although who knows, perhaps mental illness got in the way. One thing is for certain: copyright law killed him.


    As for Dorner, I have many questions about that as well. I think his heavy moral conviction drove him to this, and there's more corruption in the police than just kicking some man while he's down. Why would he lie about that incident? It doesn't make any sense -- I get the feeling things are terribly, terribly wrong with the police he was working with.

    Especially when I read things like this: []

    I don't know who's on the moral side, right now. Dorner has clearly become a vigilante, but he seems to do it out of vengeance, and his willingness to draw their families into it is excessive and completely morally obscene. On the other hand, the police are way out of line.

    Ultimately I think the FBI should dispatch a very thorough investigation into the the local police as well as finding and stopping Dorner.

  • Re:offtopic... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Immostlyharmless ( 1311531 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @01:30PM (#42844157)
    Except nudity isn't special, It's how every single person has ever come in to the world. The only reason nudity is special is because a bunch of prudish Holier than thous who weren't getting any decided it was against God to show a little T&A. T&A is not special. It's all over the internet, people give it away for everything from attention to crack to money. Anything that can be bartered for a fiver isn't special, and wishing it so isn't going to change a damned thing.
  • by fermion ( 181285 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @01:41PM (#42844235) Homepage Journal
    Youtube and google are in the business of selling advertising. There has never been ant deal to be 'fair' or 'honest' or 'open'. There is only a deal to make money. This is not broadcast TV where for profit corporations were given public airwaves in exchange for a level of public service. This is not cable TV where for profit firms are given monopolies in exchange for reliable programming.

    No google hosts content so that it can get users to log in and allow cookies so it can mine data that can be sold to advertisers. Nothing more, nothing less. Anything that costs it money, like defending content on the basis on first amendments rights, is likely counter to that profit mission. In particular most advertisers do not want to be associated with weapons of mass murder, and it is the advertisers, not the end users, that are the customers.

    Now, google at one time said it would do no evil, but doing no evil is far from doing good. I mean I can go into a school, threaten to kill everyone, and then not do it, and claim to have done no evil. Google never said it was in business to make the world a better place. It is in business to make a huge profit, while causes minmal damage to it's victims.

  • Re:Baby killers (Score:5, Insightful)

    by kcmastrpc ( 2818817 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @01:41PM (#42844237)
    One man, one rifle.
    Twenty men, twenty rifles.
    Fifty men, fifty rifles.
    One hundred men, one hundred rifles.

    One man has no chance of taking a tank, twenty guys might though. They won't be taking anything though without arms. Same goes for commandeering the drone control facility. You don't seem to understand that the second amendment isn't about one mans ability to rise up against tyranny, it's about the militias. But if you take one mans weapons, you take the militias. Your arguments are tired, pathetic, and lack any depth to what the forefathers envisioned.
  • Re:offtopic... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by YrWrstNtmr ( 564987 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @02:01PM (#42844393)
    Gun ownership shouldn't be a right but a privilege, just as some people shouldn't have kids until they're mature enough to be able to take care of oneself before taking care of another living thing. That's what annoys me about the 2nd guarantees the individual to own a gun, even if such individual is a complete moron and doesn't even know the rest of the Bill of Rights.

    One of the (many) problems with your proposal is...who gets to define the rules as to who is allowed to exercise this 'privilege'. Remember...any power you give to an administration you like, you also grant to the next administration which you may not like.
  • by Lord Kano ( 13027 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @02:52PM (#42844773) Homepage Journal

    Name an administrator's policy which has directly or indirectly caused harm to you or your family, and where a gun has defused the situation?

    I can not name a traffic accident that I was in where a seat-belt saved my life. I still buckle up when I go for a drive.


  • by Runaway1956 ( 1322357 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @03:06PM (#42844863) Homepage Journal

    To summarize the position advocated in your multiple links:

    "I don't have the balls to defend myself effectively, so it's necessary that we restrict any people who might have the balls to defend themselves effectively!"

  • by funwithBSD ( 245349 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @03:07PM (#42844865)

    No gun can be made full auto "easily".

    There are plenty of so called "trigger bumpers" that make them fire very fast, but they also tend to make them jam.

    And lastly, despite your final solution for the NRA, how are you going to round them up if they have their guns?

    That is exactly what the 2nd amendment is intended to prevent.

  • by Baldrson ( 78598 ) * on Saturday February 09, 2013 @03:08PM (#42844871) Homepage Journal
    Its not the guns that threaten you, dear tyrant.

    Its the fact that you have disenfranchised the people who support you.

    Ultimately, it will be trivial for them to cut the supply lines to cities and there will be f***all you can do about it.

    So, just keep it up...

  • by Lumpy ( 12016 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @03:26PM (#42845001) Homepage

    Here is a fun fact for you. I can 3d Print an AR-15 Lower receiver right now. Print it in wax, add the sprues and dip it in the silica to make the lost wax casting form. Cast it and with very light machining I have a unregistered AR15 lower. This process is EASY for someone that has a clue. if you have access to a multi axis CNC machine I can print out lowers from blocks of aluminum all day long.

    Yet the Govt does not make it illegal for me to have a forge or a CNC machine. Stop fearmongering.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 09, 2013 @03:31PM (#42845039)

    Not to mention that putting all the NRA members in one place wouldn't change anything, unless you were going to nuke it from orbit. If you think they'd have some massive shootout with each other, you are buying into a bizarre paranoid delusion portrayed by the media. More likely, they'd all stand up and say "we're tired of this crap" and march on DC to throw out all the Marxist a-holes.

  • by Lumpy ( 12016 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @03:40PM (#42845115) Homepage

    Ammo is not hard to get.

    Ammo is in short supply only for the highly uneducated idiots. The rest of us that actually know something about guns have plenty of ammo, a lifetime supply of ammo.

    I have at least 20,000 primers on hand (cheaper to buy a full case) and about 9000 bullets that are FMJ.
    Last time I went to the range, I came home with another 5000 spent brass that I tumble to clean up and start reloading. 5.56 reloaded rounds cost me $0.12 each. 7.62 cost me about $0.15 each and take almost no time to reload properly. In fact my reloads are way more accurate than anything you can buy in the store.

    A friend is a machinist and has made a casting block to make his own 5.56 bullets out of lead. we are going to try shooting his home made bullets in reloaded rounds this spring.

    IF they ban the bullets, those of us that chose to learn will not run out of ammo.
    The funny part is, most of the people making the run on guns and ammo are liberals that dont agree with who they elected.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 09, 2013 @04:13PM (#42845333)

    ...More likely, they'd all stand up and say "we're tired of this crap" and march on DC to throw out all the Marxist a-holes.

    You really have no idea what that word means.

  • by funwithBSD ( 245349 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @04:27PM (#42845431)

    Met a lot more paranoids at Berkley and Occupy events then I ever did at the shooting ranges.

    Self described "Peaceful" and "Tolerant" people are the most intolerant I know.

    Round us up. Kill us if we resist.

    Yeah. Tolerant and peaceful.

  • by Jah-Wren Ryel ( 80510 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @04:54PM (#42845613)

    Met a lot more paranoids at Berkley and Occupy events then I ever did at the shooting ranges.

    Since most events as the shooting range aren't political, that really ain't much of a surprise. Go to a tea party rally and see what happens to that count of paranoids.

    Self described "Peaceful" and "Tolerant" people are the most intolerant I know.

    Yeah, yeah people who disagree with you are hypocrites and people who agree with you are great guys. Oldest self-deception in the book.

  • The stupid side. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 09, 2013 @05:25PM (#42845793)

    The fact is, most people don't know how easy it is to make guns. They imagine that it requires loads of highly-specialized and expensive equipment, plus a lot of training in some esoteric art, in order to produce guns.

    They further imagine that this makes production costs high, which serve as a natural limit to how many guns are in circulation.

    Of course, this is pure rubbish. None of this is even remotely true. Utter nonsense.

    But that doesn't stop most people from seeing this whole gun-printing fiasco as a means of upsetting that (completely mythical) economic balance. They think this makes it a lot easier to make guns, and therefore more people will make and have guns than ever before (in HUGE numbers). Further, since having guns makes people turn evil, everyone we love (including ourselves) will be put at MUCH GREATER RISK of being shot than EVER BEFORE!!!

    Again, this is pure and utter nonsense. But it is what the majority of the people seem to believe, and fear. Fear produces irrational responses, which are driving youtube to yank a video.

    It sucks that we must share the world with stupid and irrational people, but there isn't much we can do about it. They outnumber us, and they always will.

  • by funwithBSD ( 245349 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @05:56PM (#42845981)

    Sorry, the Tea Party comment is pure falsehood.

    Show me something that even compares to the rape, destruction, and general mayhem of the Occupy events.

    You won't find it. You will find some nut cases spraying spit on a senator as they yell at him. You will find some that broke laws, outside of the rallies.

    But you won't find the kind of widespread systematic crime that you find for OWS.

  • by Lord Kano ( 13027 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @06:17PM (#42846079) Homepage Journal

    I'm completely serious.

    When is the last time Congress held hearings about limiting your right to own whatever car you want? When is the last time the President of the US went on a tour to promote his plan to curtail what car accessories you can own or buy?

    There's no need for you to stand up and decry the ridiculousness of an onslaught of bullshit legislation. Gun enthusiasts don't have that option. There are people who've been trying for longer than either of us has been alive to strip the American people of the ability to own entire classes of firearms or even all classes of firearms. We take a stand, we make noise because we have no other choice.


  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 09, 2013 @06:39PM (#42846213)

    we could just round up all the NRA members, put them in a stadium with their guns and unlimited ammo for 24 hours and let their paranoia solve the problem.

    You want to put the equivalent manpower of the entire Chinese military, the "People's Liberation Army", consisting of a vast number of well trained vets, enthusiasts, marksmen, competitive shooters and police officers in one area...and give them unlimited ammo? That's a pretty revolutionary idea that might actually solve some problems...but probably not the one you're imagining.

  • by fredgiblet ( 1063752 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @07:24PM (#42846545)
    Considering the target of the AWB is a class of weapons that is rarely used in crime it'sobviously not about reducing gun crime. In the FBI statistics rifles as a whole (not even just "assault weapons") are ahead of only "other guns", behind shotguns and WELL behind handguns. Yet the ban will almost exclusively affect rifles. If it actually IS about gun crime then the people making the laws are utterly incompetent and therefore shouldn't be allowed to make the laws anyway.
  • by Lord Kano ( 13027 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @07:36PM (#42846627) Homepage Journal

    When the first cars came out people cared a great deal, and wanted flagmen to walk ahead of every really don't know the history of this.

    Yeah yeah and buggy whip makers were upset that they were going to soon be out of work... That has nothing to do with the world of today.

    Not about trying to cut down on gun crime, that's a ridiculous cover.

    More people were killed with hammers last year than with the kinds of guns they want to prohibit.

    Most gun violence is committed with handguns, but they know there is no political will to enact a handgun ban. Semiautomatic rifles are an easy target because the average person doesn't have a very good understanding of the difference between a military weapon and a civilian firearms that looks similar to one.

    If you're a chess player, you learn to think about the moves to come. That's what we're doing.


  • by nbauman ( 624611 ) on Saturday February 09, 2013 @08:55PM (#42847103) Homepage Journal

    Given that people do steal shit, that doesn't give you the right to kill them.

    In a civilized society, that gets you charged with murder.

    Capitalists steal stuff all the time. That doesn't give me the right to shoot them. Although there are some anarchists who will disagree.

The best defense against logic is ignorance.