Student Sues FBI For Planting GPS Tracker 586
GabriellaKat submits this snippet from Yahoo! news, writing "'Yasir Afifi, 20, says a mechanic doing an oil change on his car in October discovered the device stuck with magnets between his right rear wheel and exhaust. They weren't sure what it was, but Afifi had the mechanic remove it and a friend posted photos of it online to see whether anyone could identify it. Two days later, Afifi says, agents wearing bullet-proof vests pulled him over as he drove away from his apartment in San Jose, Calif., and demanded their property back.' Now he has decided to sue the FBI. This story was also covered last year when he found the tracking device."
$200 fine (Score:3, Informative)
The original Reddit post (Score:5, Informative)
Reddit post:
http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/dmh5s/does_this_mean_the_fbi_is_after_us/ [reddit.com]
Images of device:
http://imgur.com/OM6nE.jpg [imgur.com]
http://imgur.com/sspLU.jpg [imgur.com]
http://imgur.com/f4V2T.jpg [imgur.com]
http://imgur.com/srhrK.jpg [imgur.com]
Re:So who is he really? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:The original Reddit post (Score:4, Informative)
ALSO:
a post he made in which the FBI cite as a reason(probably the only one)
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/ciiag/so_if_my_deodorant_could_be_a_bomb_why_are_you/c0sve5q [reddit.com]
Re:So who is he really? (Score:5, Informative)
There hasn't been actual reporting since Franklins press. 99% of news is spun propaganda, the rest is gossip
You're joking right?
The "phamplet press" of colonial time was 100% biased to whatever side of the political fence the editors sat on, and would print rumors and innuendo in ways that would make the editors of the weekly world news blanch
They did occasionally get things right, like when they busted Thomas Jefferson for impregnating Sally Hemmings (vindicatated 200+ years later), but they also printed stuff that would easily get you sued for libel and slander today.
Considering the founding fathers went out of their way NOT to put limits on it, and considering the state of the press at the time of the constitution really illustrates just how far-reaching freedom of the press should be...
Re:So who is he really? (Score:2, Informative)
If you want to see a better picture of why the FBI was interested in him, take a look at this following comment from the last time this was on slashdot:
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1813728&cid=33839634 [slashdot.org]
Re:So who is he really? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:So who is he really? (Score:1, Informative)
You forgot beating their wives, gouging out their womens' clitorises in the name of chastity, making women wear bed sheets in the name of modesty, murdering women who dishonor their families by getting raped, murdering homosexuals, murdering women who date non-Muslims, murdering apostates, murdering people for suggesting that insulting Islam is not a capitol crime (just happened to a politician in Pakistan), murdering critics of Islam (RIP Theo Van Gogh), ironically rioting over political cartoons that suggest Muslims are violent, etc... Yes, piss AND shit AND puke AND HIV-infected blood be upon Mohammed, that murdering pedophile.
Re:I would have just put in on a long distance sem (Score:5, Informative)
I mean, what are they going to do to you?
I don't know, like say you are a terrorist and a Unlawful combatant [wikipedia.org], as such you don't have any rights and put you in to Guatemala Bay prison [wikipedia.org], torture you there and release you after a few months [wikipedia.org]. If he tries to sue, the Obama administration will pressure the courts to not hear the case and to drop the charges. [commondreams.org] Oh wait, that was the CIA, o.k. never mind.
Re:The original Reddit post (Score:4, Informative)
actually that's a post his friend made.
the guy who got bugged didn't even post that.
Re:So who is he really? (Score:5, Informative)
It's not just a 1984 idea - it dates all the way back to the ~1100 AD crusades. The only justification for those wars was because muslims thought the "wrong" ideas, and therefore they needed to die. No wonder they hate Europeans & Americans - they still desire revenge for the injustices done to Arabs long ago.
From Wikipedia's page on the Crusades:
The immediate cause of the First Crusade was the Byzantine emperor Alexios I's appeal to Pope Urban II for mercenaries to help him resist Muslim advances into territory of the Byzantine Empire. In 1071, at the Battle of Manzikert, the Byzantine Empire was defeated, which led to the loss of all of Asia Minor (modern Turkey) save the coastlands.
So, Muslims attacked the Byzantine empire and the Byzantine emperor asks for and receives help from Europe. So, it's Europe's fault for not telling the Byzantine emperor Alexios I to simply give up and die in place?
More:
While the Reconquista was the most prominent example of European reactions against Muslim conquests, it is not the only such example. The Norman adventurer Robert Guiscard had conquered Calabria in 1057 and was holding what had traditionally been Byzantine territory against the Muslims of Sicily. The maritime states of Pisa, Genoa and Catalonia were all actively fighting Islamic strongholds in Majorca, freeing the coasts of Italy and Catalonia from Muslim raids. Much earlier, the Christian homelands of Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Egypt, and so on had been conquered by Muslim armies. This long history of losing territories to a religious enemy created a powerful motive to respond to Byzantine Emperor Alexius I's call for holy war to defend Christendom, and to recapture the lost lands starting with Jerusalem.
Someone is wrong here. You say the Crusades were "because muslims thought the "wrong" ideas" and Wikipedia states that it was because of Muslim aggression into the Byzantine empire. Hmmm. I wonder who's wrong?
".....remove the heads from thy enemies....." - Qor'an
"....turn the other cheek...." - The Holy Bible
And Christians are the bad guys.
And as for your sig... you think that those that hold a different view from you should be "BANNED"? Kinda goes against the whole "free exchange of ideas" thing doesn't it? How many tyrannical dictators gained power by people who felt the same way you do about people they disagreed with?
Re:$200 fine (Score:5, Informative)
The government will either go with:
A) State secret and demand that its dismissed. [wikimedia.org]
B) State that the people who could defend it are too busy to go to court and their for it needs to be dismissed [salon.com]
C) Get a retroactive FISA warrant. [fff.org]
Re:Held on with Magnets???? (Score:5, Informative)
Yes, if someone deliberately places a pamphlet on your car, you can claim it as yours. (It's also littering for them to have done that, but whatever.)
You do have to actually claim it, though, it's not automatically yours. You can refuse to claim it as yours and just move it to the trash or something. (Sorta moot WRT a pamphlet, but might be relevant if it was $10,000, and you didn't want to ever 'own' it because you'd have to pay income taxes on it. Yes, silly example, but whatever.)
All laws concerning lost (aka, dropped) or mislaid (aka, set down but you forget to pick it up) property have one overriding rules: They require the property to have been left accidentally.
Leaving something on purpose means it is, by definition, neither lost nor mislaid. There's really no way to argue that a GPS tracker was accidentally left attached to his car, as that was its entire purpose.
So unless it's part of the few specific exceptions in the law, like packages delivered to the wrong address, it's now abandoned property. Property that someone deliberately left on someone else's property.
You can basically treat abandoned property as your own. While some states do let the original owners demand it back within a certain amount of time, they have no recourse if it cannot be returned or is broken.