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Bredolab Botnet Taken Down 187

Leon Buijs writes "Monday a 27-year-old Armenian was arrested at request of the Dutch authorities. The Dutch police think he is the brain behind the infamous, 30 million infected computers large Bredolab network, that was taken down by their Team (in Dutch) High Crime. Bredolab was used to spread virii and spam via the Netherlands. While taking the botnet down at a Dutch ISP, the suspect did several attempts to regain control. When this didn't work out, he did a DDoS attack on the ISP's servers using a 220,000 computers botnet. However, this was also broken off by taking 3 servers offline that the Armanian used for this, in Paris."
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Bredolab Botnet Taken Down

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  • by h00manist ( 800926 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2010 @02:18PM (#34027674) Journal
    to anyone else willing to take them.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by camperslo ( 704715 )

      Don't look now, but I think those hosts got infected with artificial intelligence bots that connect to tech news sites and bicker about word usage and validity.

    • The number of excuses to spy on your computer communications has just gained another powerful argument. I would rather have it that the population had an excuse to monitor the government communications.
  • by nyctopterus ( 717502 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2010 @02:19PM (#34027680) Homepage

    In before everyone else: there is no such word as 'virii'.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Spyware23 ( 1260322 )

      This. For the love of tech news, spell-check your shit, slashdot.

    • by Quietust ( 205670 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2010 @02:21PM (#34027716) Homepage
      For the benefit of people who mistakenly use it that way, the correct word is "viruses".
    • by hkz ( 1266066 )

      Armanian; noun; someone who wears Armani suits when committing High Crime.

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by blair1q ( 305137 )

        I saw "Armanian" and all I could think of to post were jokes involving his lawyers filing expensive suits.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by donnyspi ( 701349 )
      aren't all words made up? :-D
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      ...there is no such word as 'virii'.

      We know... but we keep using it because we know it pisses you off.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      If a word is in common usage, even if it's just within a particular subculture, who is to say that it isn't a "real" word? You?

      • by John Hasler ( 414242 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2010 @02:54PM (#34028142) Homepage

        Why not? Doesn't everyone have equal say as to what constitutes common usage? If enough of us express our distaste for it then it may fall out of use and thus cease to be common usage. If not, then it may not. Everyone participates in forming the language. That includes dissing dorky neologisms.

        • by eln ( 21727 )

          If enough of us express our distaste for it then it may fall out of use and thus cease to be common usage.

          No, it won't. Let me explain to you how this works:

          Step 1: Someone coins a new word.
          Step 2: A few others start to use the word because they thing it sounds cool.
          Step 3: Pedantic nerds complain that the new word isn't a real word.
          Step 4: People start using the word 10 times more often specifically to annoy the pedantic nerds.
          Step 5: Pedantic nerds angrily seek out the word wherever it's being used and attempt to fight back with angry, red-faced, spittle-launching tirades.
          Step 6: Attracted by th

          • Step 8: Someone does a stupid step-by-step post explaining "shit everyone knows except that one guy" in a patronising fashion ;)

            I do sort of agree with him. Virii is at the very least bad English, and absolutely bloody awful Latin. I am semi-reliably informed that if you're talking about Virii, you're more likely to be talking about lots and lots of men. Admittedly, for about 40% of the world, that may still be something you don't want all over your hard drive.

            (I hold no responsibility for the accuracy of s

          • Eln,

            You forgot to provide an example.


            (P.S.: Hackers are criminals.)

    • by zorg50 ( 581726 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2010 @02:33PM (#34027876)
      On top of that, every sentence in the summary contains at least one grammatical error.
    • by interkin3tic ( 1469267 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2010 @02:39PM (#34027944)

      there is no such word as 'virii'.

      Forsooth, dear sir! Thou hast yon goode pointe! Tounges be set upon stone, which hitherto is why Middle English is spake by e'ry gentleman today!

      Which is to say, languages change. The summary used "virii,"we all knew what it meant, and it passes the "doesn't annoy me" test. So by my standards, it is a word despite what you and Webster's might say.

    • 'Internet' is a made up word. You think we shouldn't use that, too?

      • Neologisms are normal in english. All, however, are not created equal. Every made up word does not deserve to become an acknowledged part of the language.

        • by blair1q ( 305137 )

          Neologisms are accepted in english. Not all, however, are created equal. Not every made up word deserves to become an acknowledged part of the language, IMO.


          • by mwvdlee ( 775178 )

            Neologisms are accepted in english. Not all, however, are created equal. Not every made up word deserves to become an acknowledged part of the language, IMO.

            FTFY, IMO


    • In before everyone else: there is no such word as 'virii'.

      Yes, because pedantry and slavish worship of Tom Christiansen [linuxmafia.com] is more important than providing a search-engine friendly way to distinguish between biological viruses and computer virii .

      When did computer geeks become completely incapable of basic logic?

      We spelled it byte and not bite for goddamned reason, you know.

      I'll get modded flamebait, I suppose. Here's a translation for people who can't understand that a separate concept is best delineated by

      • Oh, please. So do you propose to form a separate term for the correct singular form as well, or does the issue only present itself from a plural perspective? You don't need to make up words to be able to specifically search for computer viruses or computer virus related material. All you have to do is qualify your search with terms pertinent to your query. It's not like you're going to just search for "virus" or "viruses" if you're in search of anything specific or useful.

    • All words are made up. Some have just been around longer than others. If we didn't make up words we'd still be calling everything "Uhhg"--well no that would be making up a word.

      Making up words is a critical part of adapting our language to accurately reflect new concepts. You will occasionally see variation (Viruses vs Virii perhaps?) and eventually one will die out due to disuse and become quaint, the other will eventually make it into dictionaries--but neither is wrong. Calling them "Compuhurtthingies

  • by digitaldc ( 879047 ) * on Tuesday October 26, 2010 @02:22PM (#34027740)
    "Infected machines remain pox-ridden but the command system associated with the cybercrime network has been decapitated, following an operation led by hi-tech police in The Netherlands."

    I would say the Dutch police are getting ahead of the cyber-criminals.
    That guy should know that botnets are not the way to get ahead in life.
    It's a shame he wasn't more headstrong, he'll never be the head of a major corporation.
  • If I created a botnet, then used it to force all the computers to run Folding@Home. Would I still be evil?
    • More of a chaotic-neutral than strictly evil.
    • by Rary ( 566291 ) *

      If I created a botnet, then used it to force all the computers to run Folding@Home. Would I still be evil?


      It's my computer, not yours. Keep your frickin' hands off of it.

    • Someone was arrested for doing this on government machines, with permission, a couple years ago if I remember correctly.

    • by blair1q ( 305137 )

      Interestingly, while we intend legal systems to separate good and evil, they're generally written with amoral language.

      So while you may not be evil, you would be culpable, liable, criminal, sociopathic, and guilty.

    • If I created a botnet, then used it to force all the computers to run Folding@Home. Would I still be evil?


    • by EdIII ( 1114411 )


      You have posed a very specific question about evil in the context of morality. I usually see evil as being one that engages in entirely self-serving behavior regardless of who it hurts. However, since you specifically bring up morality, evil in that context would relate to the standards of good and righteous behavior.

      To give an analogy to your question: A man secretly grows vegetables on a hundred farms but then gives them away to homeless shelters.

      Feeding the poor and hungry is indeed virtuous, noble

    • You're evil if you think that damaging humanity is for the good of humanity.

      Doing folding@home is good for humanity, but also evil for individuals, because you think that damaging their control over their computer and increasing their energy bill is eventualy good for them. :)

  • Seems like a new infamous 30million host botnet pops up every day.

  • ... I would like to hear about how some brilliant hacker took control of 3 million computers and used to all that computing power to, say, find a cure for cancer instead of just pissing everybody off.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 26, 2010 @02:40PM (#34027950)

    Here's the deal. Back in the old west, horse staling was a capital crime. You didn't even need to be a real law enforcement officer to string someone up for stealing a horse!

    Why was that? We don't knock off every car thief today, so why such harsh tratment for horse thieves? Two simple factors:

    1. Horses were HUGELY important to the old west economy!

    2. Stealing a horse is REALLY easy!

    So... They made stealing a horse a capital crime as a strong deterrent to protect the business model from an otherwise trivial act.

    See any Paralells???... The only way to deter hacking is to make the punishment much more severe than it is now. I'm not saying firing squad is the way to go for this guy, but something really bad.

    Any Suggestions???

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      Hamstring him, dip him in gravy and drop him in a pit filled with starving chihuahuas. Of course if he were a SPAMMER we would need to consider something harsh.
    • Any Suggestions???

      Yes, the Firing Squad.

    • Here Here... String 'em up I say!
    • Allow their genetic material to be used to the advancement of neuro-feedback computing and 'living hardware'.

      Myyyyy, what a pretty brain you have....

    • by santax ( 1541065 )
      Yes offcourse my american friend... *calls french daycare centre*
    • Horse staling as in horse stalling [google.com]? :P Tratment? :P

    • Force him to use an unpatched XP machine for 30 minutes. He'll either kill himself or swear off technology for good.
    • by sjames ( 1099 )

      Except it wasn't business models. An individual who had his horse stolen in the old west would be pretty well screwed in general and might have to resort to crime. That and they didn't have a supermax to send people to, pretty much the sentence would have to either be measured in days or they kill you. Finally, if the law didn't kill the horse thief, the people would do it anyway and then the sheriff loses all credibility.

      I'm all for strong laws to deal with organized commercial abuse of other people's mach

    • Make like he is getting hired by this well known security company, leading edge in tech. He is asked to dress up, but they rush him through all levels of interviews (he's special), till the final one, where the boss asks him, with a hushed voice, what was your best accomplishment. The boss listens, then pushes a button and the cops come and cuff him.

    • by jonwil ( 467024 )

      I say we offer him a vastly reduced sentence IF (and only IF) he provides enough valid information about others involved in the botnet to lead to more arrests. If he does not share the info, hit him with the full force of the law. Lock him up and throw away the key. Oh and a ban on ever using anything that counts as a "computer" for the rest of his life. Threats of life in jail might make him more likely to give up whoever he was working with (more to the point, the money men involved)

      Regardless of what hap

  • by Jantastic ( 196238 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2010 @02:46PM (#34028030) Homepage
    What's new (for me at least), is that the authorities informed over 100,000 computer users of their infection/participation via an ISP by redirecting them to a warning published here [nationale-recherche.nl] by the dutch police. Not sure if that's common policy or something we'll see more often.
  • Dutch is fine by me, but the average /.er might want to check the (short) facts here: http://www.om.nl/actueel/nieuws-_en/@154346/wanted_botnet/ [www.om.nl]
  • by ewhenn ( 647989 )
    From reading the summary I found it mildly amusing that the "Team High Crime" that found this botnet was in the Netherlands, with the agency abreviated to THC.
  • by Nom du Keyboard ( 633989 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2010 @03:54PM (#34028976)
    Bot-herders are a sub-species of lowlife scum humanity that could all disappear overnight and not be missed at all tomorrow.

    This guy should be locked away until the day computers become so smart that none of them will cooperate with him anymore.
    • If he had used the botnet to collect data on corruption, high-level money laundering, torturers, government and corporate espionage, drug and people trafficking, and leak the data to the proper channels, would you still hate him? Do you know another way of doing that?
  • People infected are forwarded to the following page: http://teamhightechcrime.nationale-recherche.nl/nl_infected.php [nationale-recherche.nl]
    I think this is the right thing to do. And if it is not legal, it should be made into the law.

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