Wikileaks Now Hosted By the Swedish Pirate Party

oskii writes "During his visit to the the Swedish capital Stockholm, Wikileaks spokesman Julian Assange has struck a deal with the local Pirate Party. The party, which participates in the national elections next month, will host several new Wikileaks servers to protect freedom of press and help the whistleblower site to carry out its operation."

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Re:Political entity required to comply?

[mmcuh]

No. Not more so than any other organisation. And any legal attack would have to go through the Swedish legal system. There is no "international law", there are just treaties that countries implement in their own legislation.

Re:Great move, Pirate Party.

[obliv!on]

Well they are not one in the same sure, but The Swedish Pirate Party also hosts The Pirate Bay itself so you can't completely separate them from each other either. The Pirate Party Becomes The Pirate Bay’s New Host [torrentfreak.com]

Obviously both sites and the Swedish Pirate Party are betting (pretty hard) on the election next month which a successful outcome would as previously posted [slashdot.org] put TPB and perhaps now wikileaks inside the Swedish Parliament.

Re:Political entity required to comply?

[SydShamino]

If I recall correctly, in Sweden the servers of political parties, served from their political offices, are immune to prosecution for a variety of offenses. It's intended to protect the freedom of independent parties. It just adds another layer of shielding on top of Sweden's other protections.

They would have no more political obligation to remove the material in response to an outside government's request than the Republican party in the U.S. would in response to a request from the Chinese government to remove documents from a GOP server.

Re:Whistleblower??

[zero0ne]

He isn't a "whistle blower" by any means... he is simply providing a service FOR whistle blowers to anonymously release their information to the world.

Re:Nice move

[spyfrog]

No, the Pirate Party isn't represented in the Swedish Parliament. They are represented in the European Parliament.
Also, I have never heard of any thing called "parliament immunity" in Sweden.
The best legal protection you can get in Sweden is to start a newspaper and this is what Wikileak also is thinking of doing.

Re:Political entity required to comply?

[spyfrog]

The Pirate party isn't a part of the Swedish government. They are not even a party in the parliament.

I would be very interesting to see an American military assault on Sweden however. Would you bomb Stockholm or make an amphibious landing? How would that look? The only remaining superpower beats up a democratic country with 9 million citizens.... Should the Swedish Afghanistan force start firing on their US allies as retaliation?

Re:Nice move

[Somewhat Delirious]

Sorry, I was wrong about members of the Pirate Party being in Swedish parliament (yet). They might be after the coming elections though.

The fact that you have never heard of Parliamentary immunity doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Page 18: https://ecprd.secure.europarl.europa.eu/ecprd/getfile.do;jsessionid=B15228329B1345DA4640405400F8E548?id=5062 [europa.eu]

And here is the reason why I mentioned this scenario: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/07/pirate-bay-soon-to-be-hosted-within-swedish-parliament.ars [arstechnica.com]

Re:Assange can post whatever he wants...

[Anonymous Coward]

What? All three names that were not redacted out of the hundreds that were?

Re:Source

[iknowcss]

The system that Manning "hurt" through his actions is the same system that is punishing him. How is that even remotely comparable to the Nazis and hiding Jews? According to Nazi law, hiding Jews is an act which draws consequence. It wouldn't be surprising if the perpetrators were executed by that system for those high crimes. It isn't surprising, then, that this system is doing what its own code dictates. That doesn't make his court-marshal "right", per se, but seeing as he broke the laws of the system, IT DOES NOT MATTER if it's "right" or "wrong," The system's reaction must be to punish him under its own law.

Re:Dick Cheny

[ptbarnett]

So explain to me then how Dick Cheny and Robert Novak conspired to "leak" the name of a CIA operative that was actively engaged in operations, compromised her and everyone she had contact with, but that wasn't treason?

It wasn't Dick Cheney that out'ed Valerie Plame to Robert Novak.

It was Richard Armitrage [wikipedia.org], US Deputy Secretary of State. Robert Novak identified his source very early in the investigation, so Patrick Fitzgerald [wikipedia.org] knew who it was. Yet, he was able to convict "Scooter" Libby [wikipedia.org] on charges of lying under oath. Ironically, those falsehoods concerned when Libby learned that Plame was a CIA agent, not whether he told anyone else.

While Novak would not be subject to the laws concerning publication of classified information, Armitage was --- and at this date, he has not been prosecuted.

Re:Political entity required to comply?

[MoellerPlesset2]

*) What did happen in the government during the tsunami in Thailand? Why do we need to keep these e-mails secret for 50 years?

Ask the administration. But they're not secret for 50 years, they're temporarily sealed for 3 (now 2) years pending investigation on whether the law should be changed re: backup copies. I don't think it's going to happen in the end.

*) What did happen to Raoul Wallenberg?

By Soviet accounts, he was executed in Lubyanka prison in 1947.

*) Why is a big part of the Palme murder still classified?

Because it remains an active police investigation.