Swedish Pirate Party Launches ISP 356
WillDraven writes "Torrentfreak is reporting that the Swedish Pirate Party has launched an ISP. Starting with 100 residents in a housing organization in the city of Lund, Pirate ISP hopes to gain 5% of the market in Lund before spreading to other markets. Headed by longtime Pirate Party member Gustav Nipe (video interview in English), the company aims to provide Internet service with the sort of guarantees one would expect from the Pirate Party. Most notable are the promises to keep no logs of subscriber activity and thus to provide no data to law enforcement or private corporations."
Re:I predict... (Score:5, Informative)
Yes, because the ** Association of America will send DMCA (an American law) notices to a Swedish ISP. You know what the Pirate Bay does with those letters now? They post them up on a page and laugh at them.
Re:Please spread to other countries... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:I predict... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Limits? (Score:5, Informative)
Swedish ISP's as a rule don't have limits and tend to cost something along the line of $10 to $40 depending on bandwidth and extra services.
Re:Please spread to other countries... (Score:4, Informative)
Except that with no logs, it's impossible to match an IP to a MAC
(and yes, I know MACs can be spoofed)
Re:Limits? (Score:3, Informative)
We currently pay about 300kr a month for a 30Mb connection. I think that's about 30euro / 25pounds / $40. We don't get throttled and there are no limits as far as I know. BT tends to max out at 3MB/s on popular torrents, lower than that if the swarm isn't big enough to saturate the line.
There are cheaper packages available, and our ISP goes up to 100Mb/s symmetric.
Re:Please spread to other countries... (Score:2, Informative)
I doubt they care about the small chance that someone who's not the subscriber may have performed the crime. But yeah, maybe.
The logs they are speaking of is rather who customer got which IP lease for which date and time.
Without those it's just an IP with no-one to charge. With them they got a real person.
Re:Please spread to other countries... (Score:2, Informative)
Yeah, because content providers will start asking Facebook who have used Facebook from this and that IP around this and that time?
Or they will sniff the traffic of all networks within Sweden?
We already have laws protecting personal data, how you can use and even store it. Forcing ISPs to provide the data is an exception, not the other way around.
http://www.datainspektionen.se/ [datainspektionen.se]
http://www.datainspektionen.se/in-english/ [datainspektionen.se]
The Data Inspection Board is a public authority. Our task is to protect the individual's privacy in the information society without unnecessarily preventing or complicating the use of new technology.
What on earth does the Data Inspection board does? (PDF):
http://www.datainspektionen.se/Documents/datainspektionen-presentation-eng.pdf [datainspektionen.se]
http://www.datainspektionen.se/lagar-och-regler/personuppgiftslagen/ [datainspektionen.se]
http://www.datainspektionen.se/in-english/legislation/the-personal-data-act/ [datainspektionen.se]
On the 24th of October 1998 the Personal Data Act (1998:204) came into force and replaced the out-dated Swedish Data Act from 1973. The Personal Data Act is based on Directive 95/46/EC which aims to prevent the violation of personal integrity in the processing of personal data.
Re:Please spread to other countries... (Score:2, Informative)
i am, however, worried about people that tell other people to be worried.
the simple truth: no transaction over the internet is not vulnerable to inspection by government agencies.
Re:I predict... (Score:4, Informative)
http://thepiratebay.org/legal [thepiratebay.org]
Re:Please spread to other countries... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:I predict... (Score:3, Informative)
http://thepiratebay.org/legal [thepiratebay.org]
Re:Which is awesome until... (Score:3, Informative)
How about when someone posts online that they plan to go shoot up their school the next day?
The person who first uttered the threat is committing a crime, just as is the person who created the child pornography, if real children are abused. Are you suggesting it should be illegal to possess a copy of a threat that someone else made?
Re:Which is awesome until... (Score:3, Informative)
After 10 or 15 years, all copyrighted material, whatever its origin, should be free to copy, download, etc. Keep and protect your oh-so-precious trademarks if you want, and let the credit remain with the creators of the content, but let the content itself fall into the public domain like it is supposed to.
Surely you remember the concept of copyrights that eventually expire? Oh the horror - the sheer nerve of people to demand that which is rightfully theirs!