USPTO Lets Amazon Patent the "Social Networking System" 265
theodp writes "After shelling out a reported $90 million to buy PlanetAll in 1998, Amazon shuttered the site in 2000, explaining that 'it seemed really superfluous to have it running beside Friends and Favorites.' But years later in a 2008 patent filing, Amazon described the acquired PlanetAll technology to the USPTO in very Facebook-like terms. And on Tuesday, the USPTO issued US Patent No. 7,739,139 to Amazon for its invention, the Social Networking System, which Amazon describes thusly: 'A networked computer system provides various services for assisting users in locating, and establishing contact relationships with, other users. For example, in one embodiment, users can identify other users based on their affiliations with particular schools or other organizations. The system also provides a mechanism for a user to selectively establish contact relationships or connections with other users, and to grant permissions for such other users to view personal information of the user. The system may also include features for enabling users to identify contacts of their respective contacts. In addition, the system may automatically notify users of personal information updates made by their respective contacts.' So, should Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg worry about Amazon opening a can of patent whup-ass?"
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The end does not equal the means (Score:3, Insightful)
While I don't (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:It's not just a bad patent system (Score:5, Insightful)
If Facebook came afterward, then Facebook is not prior art.
More importantly, the USPTO seems to allow patents on whatever hasn't been patented before, regardless of whether it should be patented.
Honestly, I don't think this is the failure of the registrars, but a serious defect in the system that such a simple idea as social networking is patentable.
This is broken (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:It's not just a bad patent system (Score:4, Insightful)
If Facebook came afterward, then Facebook is not prior art.
The patent was filed in 2008. It literally looks like something that might have been written in 2000 and sat around in the bottom of a desk drawer for years before someone found it and mailed it in. Hell, it cites Palm Pilot, Lotus Notes, and the Internet White Pages as prior art, and nothing since!
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Re:Patent Trolling (Score:4, Insightful)
That's why they're in patent trolling instead.
Re:Love it! (Score:5, Insightful)
Most likely, they'll just hold on to it and claim it's value.
No, they'll hold onto it for cross-licensing purposes. The next time a business operating a service that vaguely qualifies as social networking tries to sue Amazon, Amazon plays this card. That's what patents mean to companies like Amazon: they're playing cards in a hand to prevent losing an expensive game. In a pinch Amazon could use it to extract licensing fees, but that's probably not their immediate intent.
Not (Score:1, Insightful)
It was not "published", so is not prior art.
Let's spend more energy on this, instead of leading productive lives.
Re:Patent Trolling (Score:3, Insightful)
It looks like the buyout by Amazon does predate Friendster and MySpace... though to be honest, there's no way in hell this should pass any "obvious" test.
None of that matters. They didn't file until 2008. Therefore... anything existing before 2008 is prior art.
Re:Filed in 2008? Are they serious? (Score:3, Insightful)
Which is, BTW, the real problem: you can file a patent application and keep rewriting it for a decade or more until somebody comes up with the same idea. Then you tweak the language to match perfectly and collect big-ass cash money. Software patents may be stupid, but the rules that allow this are Sarah-Palin-retarded.
Re:prior art (Score:3, Insightful)
Hate to point out the obvious, but slashdot, relationships, journal, submit a story, karma, comment response emails, basically describes the principles of this patent. Perhaps the patent filers aren't low ID types and don't realise how long it has been around.
Re:Patent Trolling (Score:2, Insightful)
Except that's completely wrong. The Date of Invention is the earliest of 3 dates: the date of public disclosure, the earliest date of *continuous* development before the date of file, or the date of file.
So, yes, obviousness does matter in this case, as does the DoI.
WIth such esteem that they proclaim they have, you would think that Slashdotters would actually do the research they make fun of journalists for not doing, but no....