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China Warns Google To Obey Or Leave 533

suraj.sun writes with this snippet from an Associated Press report: "China's top Internet regulator insisted Friday that Google must obey its laws or 'pay the consequences,' giving no sign of a possible compromise in their dispute over censorship and hacking. 'If you want to do something that disobeys Chinese law and regulations, you are unfriendly, you are irresponsible and you will have to pay the consequences,' Li Yizhong, the minister of Industry and Information Technology, said on the sidelines of China's annual legislature. ... 'Whether they leave or not is up to them,' Li said. 'But if they leave, China's Internet market is still going to develop.' ... Li insisted the government needs to censor Internet content to protect the rights of the country and its people. 'If there is information that harms stability or the people, of course we will have to block it,' he said."
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China Warns Google To Obey Or Leave

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  • by Wyatt Earp ( 1029 ) on Friday March 12, 2010 @03:17PM (#31454946)

    And European and Asian companies and countries don't suck up to China? Nice try at going after the US, but the fact is everyone is sucking up to China, even countries who are most threatened by China regionally and strategically, like Russia.

  • Re:Bullshit. (Score:5, Informative)

    by jcr ( 53032 ) <jcr@@@mac...com> on Friday March 12, 2010 @03:17PM (#31454950) Journal

    I've seen estimates in the 77 million range. Whatever the exact figure, he killed more of his own people than any other tyrant in history. Pol Pot killed a higher proportion of his population, though.


  • Re:Sure... (Score:3, Informative)

    by localman57 ( 1340533 ) on Friday March 12, 2010 @03:21PM (#31455012)
    I don't think that will ever happen. There's too many companies making too much money outsourcing from the West to China. Yet for some reason, they read the stories about Google and don't make the connection that the same thing is/could be happening to them.
  • Re:Bullshit. (Score:5, Informative)

    by blind biker ( 1066130 ) on Friday March 12, 2010 @03:25PM (#31455076) Journal

    did mao kill more than 10 million chinese ?

    Mao launched the Great Leap Forward, in which an estimated 20 million people had died from widespread famine. [wikipedia.org] But Mao and the other lying bastards were saying that the deaths were the result of natural disasters [wikipedia.org]
    Then of course there were the persecutions of the Cultural Revolution [wikipedia.org], also Mao and his cronys' brainfart. There 750.000 to 1.500.000 people were killed. The massive destruction of Chinese cultural heritage is just the cherry on top of the cake.

  • Re:Bullshit. (Score:3, Informative)

    by magarity ( 164372 ) on Friday March 12, 2010 @03:26PM (#31455094)

    did mao kill more than 10 million chinese ?
    A lot more - between his crackpot economic policies (The Great Leap Forward) and paranoid purges (The Cultural Revolution), Mao can take the credit for between 20 and 46 million deaths. Note that exact records were not kept but these are the best estimates range.

  • by Wyatt Earp ( 1029 ) on Friday March 12, 2010 @03:38PM (#31455266)

    Europeans countries don't turn other countries upside down for a profit? Since when?

    Nestle. Unilever. Airbus. OMV. Eni. Siemens. One can make a list of European companies as active at making profits abroad as long or longer than the US companies.

    For every United Fruit the US has had, the Europeans have had a Belgian Congo or British Raj.

  • by Wyatt Earp ( 1029 ) on Friday March 12, 2010 @04:02PM (#31455604)

    European countries don't stage coups or invade other countries?

    Suez Crisis. Allied Force in 1999. Iraq 1990. Iraq 2003. Afghanistan 2001. Algeria.

    The very problems in West and Central Africa that have led to wars over minerals and child soldiers are because of European Imperialism in Africa during the 19th and 20th centuries.

    The US has had one African colony, if you can even call it a colony, Liberia.

    American Imperialism in Central and South America has a fraction of the body count of European Imperialism in Africa.

    So get off your high horse.

  • Re:Bullshit. (Score:3, Informative)

    by sabs ( 255763 ) on Friday March 12, 2010 @04:27PM (#31455958)

    By party and region

    Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

    The original House version:

            * Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)
            * Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)

            * Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)
            * Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)

    The Senate version:

            * Southern Democrats: 1-20 (5%-95%) (only Senator Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
            * Southern Republicans: 0-1 (0%-100%) (this was Senator John Tower of Texas)
            * Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%-2%) (only Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia opposed the measure)
            * Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%-16%) (Senators Barry Goldwater of Arizona, Bourke Hickenlooper of Iowa, Edwin L. Mechem of New Mexico, Milward L. Simpson of Wyoming, and Norris H. Cotton of New Hampshire opposed the measure)

    You are correct, in that over all a larger percentage of Republicans voted FOR it than the percentage of Democrats.
    This is true because of the Southern Democrats. Almost all of which after the vote switched parties to the Republican party.

    Not a single Southern Republican politician voted for it.
    A handful of Southern Democrats voted for it.
    Northern Democrats were also more unified in their voting for the Civil Rights Act.

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