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Anonymous Speaks About Australian Gov't. Attacks 235

daria42 writes "The loose-knit collective of individuals known as 'Anonymous' has broken its silence about the distributed denial of service attacks on the Australian government. An individual (who insisted he or she is not a spokesperson for the group) said the attacks were more effective at stopping the government's Internet filtering project than signing a petition, and that the attacks could go on for months." The site where some members of Anonymous are said to hang out, 4chan, got a visibility boost yesterday when its founder moot spoke at the TED conference.
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Anonymous Speaks About Australian Gov't. Attacks

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  • Hmm (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 12, 2010 @12:55PM (#31114802)

    I've never heard of this site, "fourchan". It seems like its a pretty cool activist site. Can someone tell me more about it? I'd go there, but my ISP is blocking it :(

  • Democracy in action. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Aequitarum Custos ( 1614513 ) on Friday February 12, 2010 @01:22PM (#31115214) Homepage
    The will of the people is the true purpose of democracy. Regardless of the fact that people are doing this anonymously, this is similar in line to the rebellion against a tyrannical government. Just because the tyranny is not as bad (censorship of porn), and the attack by the people (DDoSing government websites) does not make it a "joke" or an immature prank. If the government was actively rounding up thousands of people from a certain ethnic group for "cleansing", you could expect everyone to gather guns to kill them. Since it is not that serious, you get a less serious, albeit effective response. It made them realize what the public wants. And I don't believe this is a symptom of the "vocal minority" simply because people don't get involved with something for no financial gain, unless they genuinely believe in it, and while it could be the act of a few, it is most likely the act of many. Even if it were a vocal minority, in the US, the constitution was created to protect the freedom of the minority. I don't know how Australia views it's minorities, but I would hope a country that everyone considers "western" holds the same ideal. Anonymous is the true unhindered will of the people. It does not give in to socially acceptable norms, or anything that hides what someone truly wants. If people want porn, they will do so under anonymous. Anonymous is legion.
  • Re:Hmm (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 12, 2010 @01:40PM (#31115464)

    I was wondering how many comments down it would be before 4chan got mentioned. Second post for the internet rules, then this.

    I'm an Australian citizen, and I don't much like Australian politics! COME GET ME NOW!

  • Re:Impossible! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Monkeedude1212 ( 1560403 ) on Friday February 12, 2010 @01:50PM (#31115628) Journal

    Actually its a bit more than that. You could say that slashdot is the "Bastard hybrid of a punch of bored 18 year old CS students, a completely misinformed group of editors, and a legion of bored in-IT-for-the-money near or middle aged men. The only difference between Slashdot readers and Anonymous is that Anonymous makes an impact on the world.

    So - whatever your views about them are, positive or negative, realize that they do earn some merit.

  • Re:Good Gravy (Score:4, Interesting)

    by nine-times ( 778537 ) <> on Friday February 12, 2010 @01:55PM (#31115718) Homepage

    The site where some members of Anonymous are said to hang out, 4chan...

    Yeah, let me know when you see Anonymous on there.

    "Anonymous" is on 4chan all the time. He also posts on this site quite a bit, but we've made it our official position to question his courage. "Anonymous" shows up everywhere, and that's exactly the point.

    We're not talking about a person or even a group called "Anonymous". The point is that it's a ad hoc collection of anonymous people. Are the anonymous on 4chan or the anonymous on Slashdot the same as the anonymous creating this attack? Well... not as a group. It's not like it's all the Slashdot Anonymous Cowards are a codified group somewhere making subversive plans. But I wouldn't be surprised to learn that someone involved in the Australian attack had posted here as AC at least once.

  • Re:Not a sit in (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 12, 2010 @01:57PM (#31115754)

    DDoS in 3 easy steps:

    Monitor which routes with adjacent routes to your target network carry the most VoIP data. (Vonage and pals)

    Initiate a coordinated ARP poisoning attack, to redirect that flow of heavy, high QoS demanding traffic from the routes they currently use, through a new route through the network you want to cripple. (say, the ISP, or datacenter that hosts the AU govt websites, or access)

    actively maintain the ARP poisoning to keep the route from switching back.

    Sit back with a margarita, and enjoy the fireworks.

  • by fdisk-o ( 754721 ) on Friday February 12, 2010 @02:02PM (#31115842)

    I'm glad you pointed out the definition of 'terrorism'. Those particular words were well thought out, I believe.

    How much real fear in instilled in you, the Australian people, the Australian government, or the target site's admins as a result of this event? Any fear at all? Is this fear a reasonable response to this event? It's just computer systems and public websites, after all. Do you equate 'inconvenience' with 'danger'?

    We're being conditioned to experience fear when we're told, on demand. We're told that an attack against a server is an attack on the people and therefore the expected response is fear, nee 'Terror'. As an individual, I ask you if you choose what you are afraid of? Do you hold in yourself the determination behind your actions, your beliefs, and your responses to external events? Do events out of your control cause you to fear them and their instigators because you believe that you are truly in danger, or because you have been conditioned to respond as if it were so by people who have a specific interest and benefit by your fearful response?

    If you want to call these events 'Acts of Terrorism', if you want to be afraid, please do so on your own terms and not those handed to you along with the blindfold and handcuffs. You are a powerful individual, my friend, and you are capable of deciding for yourself what is right if you will only objectively view the events and effects that you experience. Keep that power to yourself, instead of simply handing it off to those who would manipulate you for their gain.

  • Re:Impossible! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Shadow of Eternity ( 795165 ) on Friday February 12, 2010 @02:07PM (#31115912)

    Like the sibling post says, many slashdotters ARE 4channers.

    I never really said they were bad, I don't consider 4chan any more evil than I do a hurricane. If anything I think of Anonymous as a sort of physical collective superego and id for the internet with no mediating ego, they're more like a force of nature than anything else.

  • Re:Good Gravy (Score:2, Interesting)

    by trapnest ( 1608791 ) <> on Friday February 12, 2010 @02:19PM (#31116118)
    4chan has the most visitors at any given time. People post threads on 4chan to get people aware of what is going on, and anyone who wants to help gets in irc (fgt). That's why there are always threads on 4/b/, because they get the most visibility that way.
  • Re:Impossible! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by bertoelcon ( 1557907 ) * on Friday February 12, 2010 @06:51PM (#31121138)
    I guess I better leave then.

...there can be no public or private virtue unless the foundation of action is the practice of truth. - George Jacob Holyoake