US and Russia Open Talks On Limits To Cyberwar

andy1307 passes on this from the NY Times: "The United States has begun talks with Russia and a United Nations arms control committee about strengthening Internet security and limiting military use of cyberspace. American and Russian officials have different interpretations of the talks so far, but the mere fact that the United States is participating represents a significant policy shift after years of rejecting Russia's overtures. Officials familiar with the talks said the Obama administration realized that more nations were developing cyberweapons and that a new approach was needed to blunt an international arms race ... While the Russians have continued to focus on treaties that may restrict weapons development, the United States is hoping to use the talks to increase international cooperation in opposing Internet crime. Strengthening defenses against Internet criminals would also strengthen defenses against any military-directed cyberattacks, the United States maintains."

Big mistake

[WindBourne]

Negotiating with Russia on this, would be like America doing a treaty with UK to limit nukes; It is useless Without including China, Iran, Burma, and North Korea, then we will be missing a large part of this equation. China, Iran, and North Korea are in very active development of attack systems (as well as real systems such as new missiles, warheads, nuke subs, etc). Heck, a big part of that Chinese firewall, is not just to control their citizens, but it is also to control the outside world coming in.