CNN Fires Producer Over Personal Blog 461
dangerz writes "CNN has fired one of its producers because of his personal blog. Chez Paziena, the ex-producer, has stated that he started the blog 'mostly to pass the time, hone my writing skills, resurrect my voice a little, and keep my mind sharp following the [brain tumor] surgery.' After a few months, CNN found out about it and ended up letting him go because his 'name was "attached to some, uh, 'opinionated' blog posts" circulating around the internet.'"
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Re:They don't like competition (Score:5, Interesting)
Are there any respectable news sources left on US TV? If it wasn't for the internet I would have been left believing that we are surrounded by terrorists and that our northern neighbour is hell bent on invading us. Heck, at what point did our news channels become 'based on a true event', instead of being 'about a real event'.
Re:They don't like competition (Score:5, Funny)
Nice try there, Johnny Canuck, but watch the spelling next time.
Invasion (Score:3, Insightful)
Perhaps to impose our Socialist agenda? Well we don't have one anymore so that won't happen.
No, there is no real reason for Canada to invade. Sorry.
Hockey and Molson (Score:4, Funny)
In these matters, the answer is always, "Hockey and Molson".
Spread freedom? (Score:4, Interesting)
Maybe to spread freedom? The freedom to download, the freedom to smoke pot... there must be others.
Could you bring some decent beer and some Tim Horton's coffee when you invade? Thanks!
Mal-2
Are you kidding?!? (Score:3, Funny)
Of course Canada wants to invade!
Democracy Now! (Score:4, Informative)
Yes. You could watch Democracy Now with Amy Goodman on Link TV or Freespeech TV. They come in on satellite at least. I think the local cable company where I live has blocked them out.
Re:Democracy Now! (Score:5, Informative)
Let's try that again: are there any respectable news sources that aren't blatantly anti-conservative? I just looked at the web page for that show, and every story was about which Democrat will be nominated, and how Bush is trying to kill or take over the world. Literally. For example, here are the Monday headlines:
I think I'll stick with The Daily Show, and maybe try BBC World News America. Those can't be any worse than the CNN or Fox jackasses.
Re:Democracy Now! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Democracy Now! (Score:5, Insightful)
See, here's the thing: I'm an intelligent adult, and I like talking about issues with people I disagree with. I don't mind being told that I'm wrong as long as I also hear why I'm wrong. Who knows - I might even change my mind. It wouldn't be the first time.
However, I have little patience for people who just scream that I'm an idiot and that everyone I even halfway agree with is a mindless killer. As much as I can't stand Bush (because as I said earlier, I'm a conservative - I'm not sure what he is), I'm not that interested in reading about how he's stepping up for his role as the Antichrist.
Re:Democracy Now! (Score:5, Interesting)
Media has a liberal bias in the sense that it assumes the only axis on which people can have opinions is the "raging neocon" to "bleeding-heart liberal", and of the two, the latter is the better option.
Well, the premise is bullshit, so no wonder the output is no better. Even Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter are evidence of the liberal bias: the only conservatives we hear about are the raving nutcases.
How about good old-fashioned "less government is better" conservatives? How about "lowering government spending and federal debt"? After all you've seen in the past 10 years, why does anybody still believe that it's reasonable to think "bigger government is great, as long as my candidate is in the White House"?
Why do we see "democrats want to give everybody healthcare" and "republicans oppose science", but never "democrats want to increase government spending even more" or "republicans want to protect the environment"? Sure, there are people on both sides who disbelieve each of these, but strangely the democrats always end up looking good, and the republicans always end up looking bad.
Reasonable republicans are virtually ignored by the media, in favor of covering neo-con republicans (who are in power today) and their feckless democratic opponents.
I don't consider myself a Democrat or a Republican, but the media does seem incredibly biased. Both parties have some really good ideas, and some really bad ideas. It does not help the public debate in this country to continuously display only the good ideas from one side, and only the bad ideas from the other.
Re:Democracy Now! (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Democracy Now! (Score:5, Insightful)
No, it's a famous line from the Colbert Report.
The Faith-Based idiots in the Whitehouse came up with some real winner lines dissing their critics in the "Reality Based Community". Colbert agreed with them with a lovely little quip: "Reality has a well-known liberal bias". The "Reality Based Community" has joyously embraced the title they were been given.
Reasonable republicans are virtually ignored by the media, in favor of covering neo-con republicans (who are in power today)
Damn, ya got me there....
My mailman is a "reasonable republican", and he has no power whatsoever, but DAMNIT it is Liberal Bias when the Media doesn't give him Equal TV Coverage.
Even Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter are evidence of the liberal bias: the only conservatives we hear about are the raving nutcases.
Excuse me, but citing Fox News of committing Liberal Bias.... wow... just wow. Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter were made into national media personalities BY conservatives FOR conservatives. Liberals did not pick Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter, liberals did not make Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter national media personalities, liberals aren't the audience giving them ratings to stay on TV. The "the media has a liberal bias" people selected and eagerly consume Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter.
How about good old-fashioned "less government is better" conservatives?
Who? Where? Anyone of any actual national importance and power?
I guess maybe there's Ron Paul, but he lies somewhere beween Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter on the radical raving nutcase scale. And aside from him and Kucinich providing comic relief in the presidential race, he has about as much power as my mailman.
The only "less government is better conservatives" I see in power, and the "less government is better conservatives" voting to PUT them in power, are the tax-cut-and-spend idiots. The worst sort of voters who INSIST on being lied to by politicians with fantasy lines and the politicians who will tell those lies to get elected. "Vote for me! I'll cut your taxes to ZERO! And I'll triple military spending making the US the biggest baddest mother on the block and I'll increase farm subsidies and give everyone their very own pet porkbarrel earmark and I'll give Flapjack Idaho the same billions in anti-terror money as NewYorkCity and I'll give a hundred trillion dollars more increasing teh DEA to arrest those damn liberal hippie potheads and I'll spend TWELVEHUNDREDZILLIONBILLION dollars building a 42-million-mile long border fence and I'll hire a guzillion border guards to hold hands from coast to coast keeping those damn brown people out! Taxes are all the Demoncrat's fault and if you elect me I'll spend more More MORE money giving you stuff and all those evil taxes will go away with those evil Demoncrats! NO NEW TAXES! NO TAXES AT ALL! NO TAXES EVER! Oh, and I'll give everyone a $1200 economic stimulus check too! FREE MONEY FOR EVERYONE! Woohoo! And no taxes! No Demoncrats, no taxes!"
Call me when elected conservatives in power - and the conservative voters who put them there - stop PANDERING to each other with "tax cut" chances AND spending increase promises AND living in magic-money fantasy-land.
Why do we see [in the media] "democrats want to give everybody healthcare"
Because that is the the position of the majority of important influential democrat politicians, and the position of the majorty of their voter supporters.
and "republicans oppose science"
Because that is the the position of the majority of important influential republican politicians, and the position of the majorty of their voter supporters.
but never "democrats want to increase government spending even more"
Because, conservative tax-and-spend-liberal fantasies notwithstanding, democrats are not notably any different from republicans on spending.
or "republicans wa
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Damn, ya got me there.... My mailman is a "reasonable republican", and he has no power whatsoever, but DAMNIT it is Liberal Bias when the Media doesn't give him Equal TV Coverage.
Oh yes, because every republican in the federal politics right now is some far-right leaning, borderline fascist, neo-conservative trying to push their religious ways on the rest of us. As you've probably heard by now if you hung out around /. long enough, there is a Republican running for president and a Texas Congressman who is more Libertarian then Republican. He believes in smaller government and less spending. Oh right, he also hasn't supported Bush much, if at all. Yet, he has continually be rele
try taking back your party (Score:3, Interesting)
As far as "Republicans want to protect the environment," the ones who say they do want to do so by re
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I really hope we can put the tax-and-spend liberal myth to bed soon. I wholeheartedly support the idea of electing fiscally responsible representatives, and would like to see this happen in practice.
Re:Democracy Now! (Score:5, Informative)
Agreed about PBS (Score:3, Informative)
Now too many PBS shows begin with "was made possible by a grant from Exxon Mobil", or some such corporate giant.
They're definitely trying to influence the coverage. (Or does that make it sound like I'm wearing a tin-foil hat?)
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Re:Democracy Now! (Score:5, Insightful)
Answer: No. Blatant anti-conservatism in today's political climate is necessary to be respectable.
By that I mean I can't tell you things that you really need to know (which is essential to being respectable) without conservatives ranting that I'm being biased.
Re:Democracy Now! (Score:5, Informative)
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All hell broke loose the day the sales dept. said we were putting a "banner" across the bottom of our flagship daily.
Of course, that was right after we were told we couldn't report automotive recalls anymore because a used car dealer threatened to pull his advertising for repor
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Re:Democracy Now! (Score:5, Funny)
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Say it with me now: never mix your real life with your internet life.
That's what this guy did, and he got fired for it and he'll probably never get a another news job unless it's for online news blog site. You can't go online and blog under your real name and be shocked when your bosses find out and may not like what you're writing about, especially when you're working for a big firm like CNN.
The idiot actually put on his blog that he's in the TV business, lists off all the places he's worked, that he has two emmys and a golden mic award, and that he lives in New York with his wife, and goes by "Chez", and on the link to his myspace he puts his age as 38. Gee, wouldn't take much to figure out who you are, and soon as the internet does and that you work for CNN every link to your page will read "CNN producer said this today". Think your boss would like that?
then he says:
"I'm an insufferable wise-ass who doesn't mind being an occasional nuisance to authority figures."
-- wow, I'm sure your bosses love that
"I wake up every morning baffled as to why America hasn't deported George Bush and Dick Cheney"
-- Sure CNN producer, bash the president, your bosses won't care.
--and I bet that's just the start, I'm sure if I bothered to read his blog their would be plenty of other BS opinions that CNN doesn't want to be associated with.
And he wonders why he doesn't have a job anymore??
I do not feel sorry for this guy and don't think anyone should, you can't be stupid and expect my sympathy. If he hasn't figured out how the world works at 38 he never will and if I was his wife I'd leave his stupid ass.
The only "job/school/etc fired me over blog/facebook/myspace" person I feel sorry for is this woman [mtv.com], who, at 25, was denied her college degree because she had a picture of herself in a pirate outfit drinking from a plastic cup and the title "drunken pirate" on her myspace page. If you can't have a picture of yourself taking a drink at 25 then when can you??
Re:Democracy Now! (Score:4, Insightful)
There is such a thing as free speech, and americans, including this guy, expect it.
Re:Democracy Now! (Score:5, Informative)
Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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You forgot the corporate route-around the constitution - it doesn't matter if the constitution says this or that, if the people with the power to grant, or take away, your livelihood don't have to abide by it.
It's the same in the EU - people with power - corporations (et al,) aren't restricted by the (pitiful and inefective, but let's not get into that) restrictions of the constitutions/rights charters, etc. Only the go
Free speech versus the government you fool (Score:3, Insightful)
Freedom of Speech is our guarantee that one day should we ever get off our collective asses we can bitch all we want about the government and they cannot do anything about it. Trouble is we are giving it away each year, now we can't bitch if we name a candidate who is incumbent within 30 days of an election... what next?
Your reply speaks volumes as to why this idiot was fired. Your freedom of speech does not tru
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Re:Democracy Now! (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Democracy Now! (Score:4, Insightful)
This is why unions are a good idea. Bosses have too much power.
-Daniel
Re:Democracy Now! (Score:5, Interesting)
But; the idea behind the article is about what is fair and reasonable. I would argue that being fired for having a blog is not fair or reasonable, and in the end it merely damages CNN's reputation. For the average person that doesn't read Slashdot or doesn't read the referenced articles to Wikipedia entries (for example) then this will be a non-issue. So too, for the average person who watches CNN for their daily news fix; an employee's blog will hardly be relevant or noticeable unless it is specifically pointed out and made noticeable by CNN.
Re:Democracy Now! (Score:4, Informative)
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You and those who agree with you are the reason we are all losing our rights to free speech. He did absolutely nothing wrong. He exercised his First Amendment rights and you somehow defend the employer who revokes his living as punishment.
CNN is not a person; it is part of a corporation. Corporations, too, have been ruled to have a right to free speech. (Unlike in most other cases, in this one corporate personhood makes sense. Bear with me.) If Wolf Blitzer, Anderson Cooper or Chez Pazienza says something stupid on the air, it looks bad for CNN, not just that one person. It's like the Boy Who Cried Wolf. Sure, I have the RIGHT to run around telling everyone that a wolf is coming, but I do things to stop myself from doing so (like exercisi
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News organizations are CONSTANTLY being attacked because they have a "perceived liberal bias". CNN probably spends a ton of money to fight this image because it takes seriously its need to be "perceived as an independent news organization." This perception affects every part of its business, from gaining interviews, advertisers and viewers.
This guy goes and posts rather liberal, opinionated diatribes on a regular basis.
How m
Re:They don't like competition (Score:5, Insightful)
Its a sad state of affairs when the only respectable news source in a country is a foreign one.
Re:They don't like competition (Score:4, Insightful)
But would the US ever go for a mandatory $100 - $200 TV fee / tax, just to have advert free, relatively unbiased news? My sense is that when it comes to taxes, Americans lose their otherwise well developed sense of pragmatism and respect for information.
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Maybe CNN doesn't like the competition scattered independent bloggers are providing to its all-encompassing media empire, and are taking out their anger on one of their own who dared embrace new media?
I think it has more to do with the fact he used his real name, said some stuff that is okay by /.'r standards but was defiantly pretty racy to your average CNN view and as well he knew that he was suppose to get his outside work okayed with standards & practices. Really there is nothing to see here, the guy had it coming. IMO
Remember Peter Arnett (Score:5, Insightful)
The media know that if they don't keep their reporters in line they will get screwed over. Instead of having their field staff embedded with frontline fighters to send back sexy footage they'll get embedded with the people washing trucks at the transport park. Instead of getting geed feedback from WHitehouse/Pentagon/whatever press officers they'll get delayed responses.
The media know they must keep their noses clean to stay in the game and that's why they'll repremand or fire anyone that looks like a loose cannon and will upset theri relationships with these organisations.
In the words of the Clash: "You have the right to free speach, unless you actually try it."
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Re:They don't like competition (Score:5, Insightful)
In fact, CNN doesn't like the competition so much that their employment contracts prohibit CNN employees from publishing material except through CNN.
A low-key blog on an uncontroversial topic like trainspotting probably would've gone unpunished. But a high-profile blog with extremist and offensive political content, under the name of a CNN producer?
The real tragedy is that CNN is will probably now have to crack down on innocuous little blogs about knitting tea cozies, just to avoid lawsuits from asshats like this Producer for showing favoritism.
On paper, this guy is getting fired for breach of contract. I think the real reason he's getting fired is for showing a profound lack of judgement and restraint while holding a position of responsibility at CNN. The political extremists and conspiracy theorists will no doubt assume that the whole thing is a sign of fundamental corruption and usurpation of civil liberties by the news media and their Illuminati overlords.
They don't like competition (from people they pay) (Score:3, Insightful)
Maybe CNN doesn't like the competition scattered independent bloggers are providing to its all-encompassing media empire, and are taking out their anger on one of their own who dared embrace new media?
Are there any tech people here who don't have a non compete clause in their contract that says, "You may not use knowledge you gained through your position here for external projects without company approval?"
This is a news producer, given access at CNN's dime, blogging about it for his own use (and potentially collecting ad revenue too).
It wouldn't be considered acceptable in any other field. A programmer releasing code to things he was exposed to on the company's time, a record label employee running a c
it's just him (Score:5, Funny)
MORBO DOES NOT FEAR CNN. MORBO WILL BLOG WHATEVER HE LIKES!
No comments (Score:2, Funny)
Brain Tumor! (Score:2)
Not that that should be the focus, but it likely will be.
As for standards... (Score:4, Insightful)
Three words (Score:3, Interesting)
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You know, there was a name for this... (Score:5, Interesting)
... in the Repressive Communist Regime(TM)[1] of Yugoslavia. Verbal delict anyone?
You may have freedom of speech, but it seems you are gradually losing freedom of opinion.
We've had our little wars and revolutions; when will you be coming along?
[1] Insert sarcasm tags where needed.
The dude violated a policy he admitted he read. (Score:4, Insightful)
He violated a clear written policy. The guy is stupid for thinking work published on an internet blog doesn't count as writing.
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"Policies" are not laws.
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Re:The dude violated a policy he admitted he read. (Score:4, Interesting)
Thats right, they aren't laws. He didn't go to jail, he got fired.
He is a producer for a media outlet. He decided to not give CNN the first option for publishing what he was writing. That is a huge no no.
The whole brain thing is pure BS to cloud a very clear violation of his relationship with his employer.
End of story.
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Re:The dude violated a policy he admitted he read. (Score:5, Informative)
Throughout history, there have been many kinds of slavery. Some were at least semi-voluntary, and ended after an agreed-upon time period.
Much like contracts of today.
Re:The dude violated a policy he admitted he read. (Score:5, Funny)
The contest for Worst Analogy For This Story would seem to be between you and "However on the surface it does strike me as being awfully similar to a garbage man who works for a private waste management company, volunteering his time on saturdays on the Adopt-A-Highway program, cleaning up trash."
We'll see if Bad Analogy Guy shows up to contest this one.
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Re:The dude violated a policy he admitted he read. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Any writing? Really? Like "A loaf of bread and some milk"-writing?
You seem to be overlooking the term "outlet," which would mean a place that disseminates the work for him (which blogspot would certainly qualify for). So no, the definition's not as wide ranging as you're trying to say it is.
Besides, he's writing a blog with a fairly wide audience for an ad-supported site. He knew all of this. While the line doesn't clearly apply to blogs, he either realized that his blog could have fallen under those guidelines or he deserves to be fired anyway.
Re:Published? (Score:4, Interesting)
I think posting to Slashdot, even in the comments section, would be considered writing "for an outlet". You've written something and made it public.
And of course it's about *what* he wrote. People's opinions of him will reflect on the company he writes for for a living, since they may rightfully assume that his bias has had an influence on their content.
Honestly I think this discussion is going in the direction it is in because we have a generation of people becoming adults after being raised by parents who couldn't say no to them. People have seriously unreasonable expectations of what is owed to them by others. If you think that your last sentence should have influenced a reasonable person to your side in this argument, and not away from it, you're in for a rude awakening when you realize how the real world works.
Re:The dude violated a policy he admitted he read. (Score:5, Insightful)
He what now?
Clear? You call that policy CLEAR?!
If the part in quotes is actually a quote, "non-CNN outlet", then it is indeed very far from clear. If anything, I would argue that it's clearer that a blog *shouldn't* count, since a personal blog is not an "outlet" in the context used (CNN). If he had written the blog for the NY Times, then sure, by all means...
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Not so quickly now.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Not so quickly now.... (Score:4, Funny)
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This guy is not special (Score:2)
this guy's story is pretty interesting actually (Score:5, Interesting)
At this point, we should all be thinking about how to coerce MSM to be actual factual news outlets again? Ideas, anyone?
It's obvious that having good ratings is better than being rated highly as a reliable news source. Perhaps (new Internet meme inbound) it is time for Anonymous to start informing advertisers of MSM that we don't like the shows associated with their products?
It would seem that only money talks these days. The real question is: Is it the advertisers dollars that talk loudest, or the politically generated dollars that talk loudest? Who really are the MSM's dollar dealers?
Competition? (Score:3, Interesting)
Even if he isn't trying to do so, he's in a position to take readership from the company (weather it happens or not), and that is something they have a vested interest in stopping.
In this case, CNN would have been smarter (if this guy has the connections in the blogging community he claims he does) to keep him on the payroll as an independent blogger, with the rights to use his material on the show to further the perception that CNN is "down" with news bloggers. At the same time, give him some access to CNN's news-sources so he can break some stories that they "pass" upon on the broadcast show, and if he makes enough noise (or viewers) put it on the CNN pages/broadcast, and get the guy some screen time.
sex sells (Score:4, Interesting)
I see opportunity for him... (Score:4, Insightful)
department of redundancy department (Score:3, Funny)
As opposed to the other kind?
Ob-quote?! (Score:3, Funny)
Oprah Post (Score:3, Interesting)
As Opposed To... (Score:5, Insightful)
And then there was Bob Novak, about whom the less said the better. And I'm pretty sure there was somebody else who got caught taking money from people he was supposed to be providing disinterested commentary about, but the name escapes me. One thing's for sure. They have never had a military "expert" on regularly who said anything even mildly critical about the idiots at the Pentagon who seem to be doing such a good job of getting American soldiers unnecessarily killed and maimed.
It sounds to me like they dumped this guy because he actually seems to know what good journalism is about. On a network that was an unapologetic cheerleader for the Iraq invasion and regularly buries real news stories under an avalanche of shallow, horse-race-style political coverage and pixelized footage of some starlet's crotch, I guess this guy just wasn't a good fit.
Missing the Point (Score:3, Insightful)
He elaborates in his well written blog post that the blogging community (which has only been around for maybe half a decade) is going to continue to grow on the internet and overtake the "major" news organizations. If you look at the road-to-entry for television and you compare it to blogging, you know this is true. You're not likely to ever create your own cable television channel but to setup a blog it takes little more then 10 minutes and it will automatically be indexed in search engines without you ever having to try.
The current major news outlets are only a combination of 5 stations. Blogs on the other hand are a combination of hundreds of thousands. Now that the entry fee into the media (all media) is little more then a browser with an internet connection.
This alone won't herald any kind of revolution. It will take decades for the internet to penetrate the masses the world over but if recent events with Wikileaks is any indication; the internet at least exposes the absolute truth. Unfortunately, for anyone that puts bread on the table with this industry; this might herald the end of the commercialization of news since keeping it free will be trivial.
Excuses, excuses... (Score:5, Interesting)
This is a softball (Score:4, Interesting)
AIK
Hoist by his own petard (Score:3, Interesting)
This is crap. It is dog crap: cynicism.
The guy has admitted he is prejudiced, and proven it beyond a shadow of doubt with his blog.
Bias can be corrected, but prejudice taints the news enterprise. Write the conclusion, then pick facts that back it up, and ignore the ones that don't. His alleged mind is made up.
Maybe, just maybe, his dismissal from CNN means they are actually trying to get the opinion out of their news stories.
They do have opinion shows, but I don't think "American Morning" is supposed to be one of them.
Re:OMGWTFBBQ!!! (Score:5, Insightful)
Once companies discovers they have to fire the vast majority of their employees because there just aren't as many cookiecutter droids as HR had hoped, and society collapses.
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He doesn't say exactly, although while complaining about being fired for controversial material he called Lou Dobbs a 'fascist demagogue'. It isn't too hard to guess from there. If you need help, just go through any of the 'politics' categories here on slashdot and look at the rants against Bush & krew.
Re:NOT his job (Score:5, Insightful)
Unfortunately when you're a traditional journalist, any public expression of opinion is about your job...
I feel bad for this gentleman for losing his day job, but, seriously, anybody who works in the mainstream media understands that your boss is quite likely to impose certain limitations on public expressions of your personal opinion. It was only a matter of time before something this guy wrote on his blog ticked off somebody enough that a critical resource would refuse to provide necessary information to CNN. If you think this is crazy, Linda Greenhouse, who covers the Supreme Court for the New York Times, has been under absolute siege just because of who she's married to: Eugene Fidell, an expert on military law who's filed a number of briefs relating to the Guantanamo detainees. Note that nobody has been screaming that Greenhouse is doing a bad job or presenting the facts about Guantanamo in a biased fashion; they're simply claiming that it's impossible for her to do so because she is married to somebody who's a player in that arena. (I should probably note both that Greenhouse is considered the best reporter covering the court, and that in 1989 she was publicly chastised by the NYT for participating in an abortion rights march).
So editors are generally pretty intolerant of reporters who mouth off in a public fashion. The idea is that it's hard enough to create a story that presents the positions of both sides fairly if you're already on the record as saying, for example, that you wish the President could run for a third term. Filtered through that gem, your otherwise fair representation of the positions of all sides might appear to be somewhat slanted.
I'm a little astounded that this fellow didn't adopt an online pseudonym...
Re:NOT his job (Score:5, Interesting)
He wasn't a journalist or a reporter, though. He was a producer who reportedly had no real input into the editorial decisions of the program. Would they have fired a camera operator for this? Secretary? The guy who fills the vending machine outside? You really have to draw the line somewhere.
As it stands, though, nobody in the outside world had any idea who this guy was until CNN fired him and told the whole world that he used to be the producer for this show. The very act of trying to cover it up turned them immediately into the bad guy from the view of most of the general public, and immediately cast what would otherwise have been a minor annoyance at best into a PR nightmare. There are no words for that sort of stupidity on the part of CNN's management. If I were in charge of CNN, I'd have the resignation of every single person who signed off on that decision on my desk already. The people responsible for sacking the responsible party have been sacked, and all that.
In my mind, this story just confirms what I've suspected for a while---that CNN is no longer going to even keep up appearances of being an objective news outlet. Anyone with left-leaning opinions need not apply. The whole network is really all about pandering to the Presidential administration in power. With Republicans in the White House, CNN's political coverage is only slightly to the left of Fox News. You can get more balanced reporting by reading Fark. It really saddens me to say that, as just a decade ago, I thought it would be a great place to work. Since then, though, I've watched it go downhill faster than a car with its brakes cut, and at this point, I basically never watch it anymore. That and the whole problem with TV news not paying well enough to attract enough people with the sense to ask the tough questions.... See my rant from a few days ago on that subject....
For those folks who agree with me, here's what you should do: tell everyone you know not to go to CNN's website on February 29th. Let's send a message to CNN that what they did is wrong. Go spread it on the blogosphere.
Re:NOT his job (Score:5, Interesting)
I've worked with on air talent who are very involved in the process, and that includes a lot of the folks at CNN. But to say that producers aren't journalists or reporters is incorrect.
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Re: (Score:3, Funny)
You know 16yo camwhores from MySpace?
Re: (Score:3, Interesting)
What, exactly, did he post that was so damn controversial that CNN felt the need to let him go?
I'm not entirely sure, but he see does seem critical of the mainstream press in general. Some stuff on the election [deusexmalcontent.com] (with the title "Is Barack Obama Gonna Have to Choke A Bitch") and entertainment figures [deusexmalcontent.com]. The use of Tigger [deusexmalcontent.com] in an adult themed context seems to be the riskiest thing thus far. Still seems pretty tame by most standards, but considering his name was tied to it and he was an employee of CNN I can see how they would be wary being connected to it. Really, we've given business so much leeway in the
Controversial (Score:3, Funny)
FTFB:>"I didn't make a dime doing it."
The man's obviously a commie. Can't have a guy like that working on CNN.
Yes, censorship (Score:3, Insightful)
Let's assume China has a policy of
Re:An out-of-the-closet liberal (Score:4, Insightful)
I want to know the biases of media types up front - left, right, or corporate (and no, I do not necessarily equate corporate suckups with conservatives). I do not think that having an opinion and stating it has any bearing on news reporting except to suggest that true neutrality is damn near impossible.
In order to be objective (or as close to it as is possible), reporters and producers need to understand their own biases - more importantly, they need to know the kind of biases which emotionally affect or overwhelm them. In my experience, everyone has an issue or two that drives them completely batshit. Coming to terms with this, and being open about it, is the only hope we have - it is the only way we can have "faith" in (don't like the word) the professionalism of the journalist in question. What makes a quality journalist, in part, is what makes a quality judge - understanding that he is human and fallible, and working on ways to keep that out of his work.
Journalists are not holy men; they are fallible like anyone else. To the extent that the best among them keep biases they are cognizant of out of news stories, that serves the higher purpose of a quality press. But for us, the viewers, having access to blogs like this allow us to decide for ourselves not only whether the journalist is professional enough to keep his or her opinions out of her reporting, but whether there may be a subconscious at work that we should be wary of.
Lastly, CNN is tabloid news reporting. Any credibility it once had has steadily evaporated. Like its competitors, it leads with the stuff he mentions - Anna Nicole Smith, Britney's problems, and so forth. CNN is far more impressed with itself than is any member of the public *I've spoken to* who has actually been paying attention.
Sucking neocon cock, pandering to the dumbest among us - these are all biases I hold in equal contempt. I still think there is a place for professional journalism, and I think it may well rise again. I shudder to think of blogs replacing this (few bloggers, if any, have the time or money to do the kind of traveling, research, and so on, that is important enough to cover a story completely - the medium (the internet) doesn't, obviously, bother me).
These are the dark ages of journalism, indeed. Let's hope for a renaissance or enlightenment on the horizon. And most of all, I hope no one is stupid enough to be buy the sanctimoniousness of the corporate-run news oligarchy when they suggest (or allow the insinuation to go unchallenged) that this has something to do with a commitment to objectivity and unbiased news. What they don't like, is not having a leash on everyone who works for them, and that leash is necessary to ensure that the stockholders can keep controlling the flow of information.
Sorry for the long post, but the guy I am responding to is so profoundly *wrong*, I couldn't help myself.
And don't play like you can speak for the "public," either, you anonymous cockknocker.
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The constitutional right you refer to doesn't exist. The whole text of the First Amendment: