Comcast Sued Over P2P Blocking 268
CRISTAROL writes "Comcast has been sued by a California resident for blocking BitTorrent and other traffic. 'John Hart describes himself as a Comcast customer who has seen performance hits when using "Blocked Applications" targeted by Comcast's traffic management application, Sandvine. In his complaint, Hart says that Comcast severely limits "the speed of certain internet applications such as peer-to-peer file sharing and lotus notes [sic]." Comcast accomplishes this by "transmitting unauthorized hidden messages" to the PCs of those using the applications.' The lawsuit comes on the heels of an FCC complaint over the same issue."
Ha (Score:5, Interesting)
The article was blocked just a few seconds ago. COINCIDENCE? hmm?
How about legal use of bittorrent? (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:Government-granted monopoly leads to no alt. IS (Score:1, Interesting)
Comcast shouldnt stand in our way (Score:5, Interesting)
What we really need is some clever client-side programming. A p2p client (or standard) that does some clever encryption, sends data hidden through other streams, etc. I'm not a network programming guru, but it seems like these programs can (or should) keep a step ahead of whatever recognition software that gets through the approval process for comcast servers.
Comcast cut me off for uploading to a legit server (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:About time (Score:2, Interesting)
Can Comcast block spam? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:A good precedent (Score:4, Interesting)
Except that Bittorrent is a very widely-used protocol. The fact that World of Warcraft alone uses it puts that in the realm of "the ordinary person". Said ordinary person doesn't have to specifically know they're using the protocol; if Comcast were screwing with HTTP, they would be messing with a protocol widely used by ordinary people despite the fact that most web surfers don't have the first clue what it is. We're not talking about Gopher here.
This is in addition to the fact that this mythical "ordinary person" has a reasonable expectation that when (s)he is promised high-speed downloads, that this will occur regardless of the specific technical means used for the download, and that the ISP will not take steps to deliberately interfere with this. One would also presume that the ordinary person would not expect his or her ISP to be deliberately committing what amounts to a denial-of-service attack against its customers by forging packets.
Re:Government-granted monopoly leads to no alt. IS (Score:4, Interesting)
Because, if they don't i can sue them for False Advertising, Mis-representation of merchandise involved, delibrate intent to defraud, and a raft of state laws.
Its simple and legal. Use the same arguments they use to make you pay.
Non-Emotional, robotic motions to legal recourse.
What it does it matter to them, if i use torrent to download SG-Atlantis or a Linux distro.
They can't claim to police my activities in the same way Walmart can't question a buyer of handguns in its Keene, NH store just because its store clerk felt like it.
If i were the person who sues comcast, i would send out a subpoena demanding ALL emails relating to this PLUS pull network administrators on oath to say it.
I bet Comcast would settle before going to court.
Re:Pay to steal (Score:2, Interesting)
While we're at it we need to block all internet video and picture viewing
Pictures on the intarwebs = porn
Everyone else who tries to download jpegs is just trying to get porn. Oh yeah, and there's no possible way to use a web browser without being a criminal, you're making copies of copyrighted content on your own computer in RAM, on the Screen and in your cache and index therefore we should block every kind of internet transfer other than emails and IMs because copying stuff that you wouldn't buy anyway hurts artists! Everyone knows this. It would be in your best interest if you just weren't allowed to use the web or ssh or
I know that I was kinda rambling there, but I'm so tired of people who think that P2P is about stealing. I download FREE music (as in speech and beer) over p2p, linux ISOs because I know that guys putting out distros have to PAY for their bandwidth and mine is pretty much unlimited, I'm sorry to all of the artists that I killed by downloading the latest openSuSE dvd. I hope that they're families will one day find it in their hearts to forgive me
I offer legal torrents, but they're blocking me! (Score:4, Interesting)
My torrents are completely legal because they're posted with the permission of the copyright holder - me.
When I was using an Eastlink cable modem in Nova Scotia, Canada, the ISP blocked me from downloading my own torrents, so I wasn't able to verify that they were working!
I think everyone who offers legal torrents, especially non-profit Open Source and Free Software organizations who provide installation isos via BitTorrent, should band together to defeat the blocking of BitTorrent downloads.
Is there a way we could file a class-action lawsuit?
Re:About time (Score:2, Interesting)