Can Apple + AT&T Shut Down iPhone Unlockers? 318
aalobode writes "Do Apple and AT&T have the legal right to stop hackers from selling unlocked iPhones? Under their terms, only AT&T may sell iPhones, and Apple gets a commission. When unlocked iPhones are used on other providers' networks, AT&T and hence Apple get nothing beyond what they earned on the initial sale of the hardware. Can they prohibit unlocking? Reselling? The article in Businessweek gives the for and against arguments, but leans toward the view that the hackers may have the law on their side for once."
Heres what the BBC says: (Score:5, Informative)
"only AT&T may sell iPhones" (Score:5, Informative)
Wrong. Apple sells iPhones (through their website and retail locations). The phone isn't activated at the time of sale (it's done at home with iTunes). AT&T announced 146k activations when Apple announced 270k iphones sold. You do the math.
Re:No $#%!, Sherlock (Score:2, Informative)
Simple Echnomics... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Looking forward to an easy unlocker (Score:3, Informative)
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/like-the-iphone/meizu-
Re:Yeah (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Apple + AT&T? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:the DMCA finally does something good (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Why are Phones in US Locked Anyways? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Subscription fee (Score:3, Informative)
All parties got their money, both Apple and AT&T. And quite a lot of it.
So I think they are really overdoing this digital rights thing by additionally locking the iPhone to AT&T cards.
the "complex" hardware unlock touted in media... (Score:2, Informative)
What he has done immensely well is put various people's work together with their agreement, including some of his own, and explain the process, then give away the method as a vehicle to sell his skills. I congratulate his not trying to hoard the method as HK hackers have done (sorry, you weren't the first!), or the iphonesimfree site. He also has fine soldering skills.
Last weekend I managed to get full control of some other piece of ARM-based consumer electronics [which I own and was not connected to any third party service, thank you lawyers]: at some stage the zero page (interrupt vectors) and interrupt handlers were mapped to ROM, but the PMTs were in an unprotected page of RAM(!), so it was fundamentally a matter of remapping the zero page and changing the SWI vector to my own code, giving me Supervisor mode. This has almost whet my appetite for a real challenge, but Apple are insulting developers by denying official support via SDKs etc, so I can't bring myself to love the iPhone enough to try to give it freedom
Re:Warranty (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Warranty (Score:2, Informative)
Re:If it's legal (Score:1, Informative)
just because it can be unlocked does not mean other carriers can sell it and activate it.
You still have to buy it from ATT or Apple. Then you may swap an already activated TMO SIM card.
2 year blan... bah! (Score:2, Informative)
As mentioned on Infinite Loop, however, it is possible to activate an iPhone without committing to AT&T's "required" 2-year service plan. By entering "999-99-9999" into the Social Security field, you will get booted into GoPhone (AT&T's prepaid phone plan that does not require a contract) mode. An equivalent voice plus data plan under GoPhone comes out to about $10 more per month than a similar plan under contract, and so this may be a very attractive option to those who aren't interested in committing to AT&T for long periods of time. Seeing as AT&T isn't subsidizing the iPhone's cost when you sign a contract (as most carriers do in order to entice customers with steep phone discounts), it doesn't seem as if there is much reason not to go this route unless you are interested in saving $10 per month and don't mind being in a contract for two years. This is the simplest way to activate the iPhone without a contract without getting into some hackery, which we will discuss in a later section. It will cost $175 to break an iPhone contract with AT&T if you choose to leave before the two years is up (although if you cancel the contract within 30-days of activation, you will not get charged an early termination fee. If you return an open-box iPhone within 14 days of purchase, Apple will charge you a 10 percent restocking fee).
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[ found here -> http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/iphone-re
Re:"only AT&T may sell iPhones" (Score:3, Informative)
If AT&T could do this on lines coming from the Baby Bells, I certainly believe they could easily achieve 100% on calls from their own cells. After all, if they can bill it to the right number, they can certainly pull origin ID off a call to its own number.
Re:Mod Chips (Score:3, Informative)
The purpose of a modchip is to disable or circumvent a copy protection mechanism built into the console. The DMCA makes anything designed to do this expressly illegal.
Unlocking a phone has nothing to do with circumventing copyright and hence an iPhone modchip (if such a thing existed) would be legal. However, a software based unlock is more interesting as the DMCA also generally forbids modification of binary software (e.g. reverse engineering) except in certain circumstances. Luckily I believe one of those allowed circumstances is unlocking a phone for the specific purpose of switching network.
The unlock is different now (Score:3, Informative)