Student Blogger Loses Defamation Case 289
An anonymous reader writes to tell us about Yaman Salahi, a UC Berkeley student and blogger, who lost a lawsuit brought against him by Lee Kaplan, a journalist for FrontPageMag.com. Kaplan had sued Salahi in California small claims court for tortious business interference and libel, in response to a blog Salahi had set up about him called "Lee Kaplan Watch." Salahi lost in small claims court and then lost an "appeal" — which is essentially a retrial by another small-claims judge. No written opinion was offered with either decision, though all other court filings are available. From Salahi's update on his blog: "...because [Kaplan] sued me in small claims court, I did not have the protections of the anti-SLAPP [Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Policy] statute... I will never know why I lost the initial hearing, or why I lost the appeal, because small claims judges are not obligated to release written opinions with their rulings.... I will never have the opportunity to take this to a real appellate court where my first amendment rights might be protected."
Counterstrike? (Score:2)
Countersuit?
--Rob
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Besides, small claims and de novo review of a small claims action are not courts of record and this whole business is trivial beyond most
Let it be....
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I'm.... I'm so sorry. That's a horrible place to live. I should know.
From his site (Score:3, Insightful)
Looks like things would have gone better if he hadn't made some legal mistakes.
Re:From his site (Score:4, Insightful)
It looks to me like instead a complicated legal maneuver designed to get around a clear hole in the fairness of the legal system.
I would not consider failing to countersue or failing to move the court to be a legal mistake, using the definition of mistake as failure to engage in proper actions.
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And a system where the legal code is so complex that we have made it a crime for non-certified professionals to attempt to interpret it (in most every state, lobbied for by the same lawyers who want to get paid exhorbitant fees to defend you and to to prosecute you, thank you very much), is a system of INjustice.
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Re:From his site (Score:5, Funny)
Sir, based upon your post, which I took as legal advice absent any statement to the contrary, I opened up a private medical practice in my home. Now, I have been arrested by the police for impersonating a doctor.
I trust that I will be compensated by you for this in some way.
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Just more Slashdot bullshit. You get sued, you call a lawyer. Your car gets hit, you call your insurance company. You break your arm, you call a doctor. You buy a house, you call an inspector.
I sure as hell don't want to live in your Fisher-Price world, free of things like nuance and jurispr
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I want to especially thank my excellent lawyer, Adam Gutride, without whose generous moral and legal support I would not have been able to get through the past few months. He put himself at great risk by defending me and, despite this, he insisted on taking the case and invested many hours and much effort into it.
So presumably his decisions were based on advice from said lawyer - unless the lawyer wasn't involved until too late a stage, e
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The article did say (Score:5, Informative)
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I've dealt with small claims court matters before; court staff will help you formulate it, sure, but they can't (and won't) give you legal advice.
The best advice, as always- if you are being sued, consult a lawyer. The dollar amount is irrelevant. Even if your lawyer spends thirty minutes to look over the filing and tells you everything you've done is fine,
Re:From his site (Score:5, Informative)
I had a buyer bail out of buying my home one week after closing. I showed up, my wife showed up, the lawyer and realtor showed up... just not buyer.
We gave them another shot. They didn't show up again. Now, during this time, I had a home I was buying and was supposed to close on. The seller of that house was a realtor and a real prick. When he heard what happened, he raised the price $10,000 USD. So, my buyers that didn't show, now cost me $10,000 USD. On the second no-show, the prick I was buying from raised the price another $5,000 and demanded I give him our down payment of $10,000 as CASH with no chance of getting it back. Which we did since we wanted the house.
We found other buyers, closed and bought our new home. The first buyers gave us $5,000 down. They wanted it back. However, the contract said that if they failed to buy, they lost the deposit. I went to a lawyer, it would have cost me at least $5,000 to try to get the $5,000 out of escrow! That didn't include any other "fees" like licking a freaking stamp ($20) or answering a phone call ($50) or sending an email ($75), yes, our lawyer charged me $75 to send a one line reply to my status update email!
Well, I am done bitching. Most lawyers are scum. They don't care about your rights. They want the big bucks. Do you really think all those ambulance chasers care if you are really injured or not? Nope. They only look at how much they can make the insurance companies settle for.
I am not a lawyer hater, I just think 98% are trash money chasers and are totally screwing up our legal system.
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Then I think that means you're a lawyer hater.
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Moderated Informative - you've got to be kidding (Score:3)
Ok, now that that's out of the way. A buyer walked on you and you "gave them another shot". You're an idiot. You take the deposit and walk. What are you babbling about escrow? If you had them sign a well written (this is why I use a realtor / buyers agent) letter of intent and give you (or your realtor) the deposit then you just keep it if they back out - no fuss. Sounds like you screwed
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A legal 'mistake' was being found guilty (Score:2)
The system i
This is a racial dispute. (Score:5, Informative)
Kaplan is the pro-Israel writer.
Regards.
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Yes, I should have probably stated facts and references instead of just stating my opinions. Since I thought much of this information was fairly easily available and common knowledge, I didn't think I would get too much opposition. However, just doing a quick search on Google reveals more extremist Web sites on both sides of the issue rather than anything I would conside
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Right of Appeal (Score:3, Informative)
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Anyway, SCC is a real court. Now, do you have a right to appeal to the supreme court for your jurisdiction? Likely so (even if it is eventually, through other layers of court.)
Unbelievable! The guy's website is still there (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe on the merits? Mr. Salahi's website describes Mr. Kaplan as a "fraudulent journalist," which is another way of alleging he's incompetent to do his job, which the law calls "libel per se."
Anyway, the offending website is still up, so presumably Mr. Kaplan can sue Mr. Salahi yet again and win a second judgment for another $7,575.
no dog
I don't think so. (Score:2)
Maybe on the merits? Mr. Salahi's website describes Mr. Kaplan as a "fraudulent journalist," which is another way of alleging he's incompetent to do his job, which the law calls "libel per se."
If the case were really so cut and dried, Kaplan would have eaten this guy alive in a real court instead of fooling around with small claims. I have a feeling that we will hear more about this.
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Probably the small claims judgement was enough to prove your case is valid and your reputation remains untarnished with whatever the defendant claimed. You can always point to the judgement and say that a judge sided with you given all the details both you and the defendant gave. Perhaps the monetary aspect is unimportant to Kaplan in comparison, and probably taking a case to the full courts is unnecessary - and dangerous given the cost of lawyers and the time it all takes.
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Re:I don't think so. (Score:4, Informative)
In what sense is Parent "insightful" (Score:2, Insightful)
"I conclude this guy is wrong" followed by "what were they arguing about anyway?"
be deemed insightful?
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If enough people want to mod you up, they can. One page outlining a moderation policy is window dressing on that basic fact.
Mob rule, in other words.
And until some sort of clustering technology is employed to sort different racial, religious, political, ideological (and whatever else divides people) camps into individual echo chambers, thus it will always be.
The ruling power can then be ascertained by determining which faction is never criticized (except with straw men and sockpuppets
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small claims court is NOT evil. (Score:5, Informative)
If the case were really so cut and dried, Kaplan would have eaten this guy alive in a real court instead of fooling around with small claims.
There are half a dozen comments already in the story, along the lines of "man, what a scumbag, suing in small claims!" or "small claims court sucks, OMG, NO RIGHTS USA SUXORS!"
You have the right to request a small claims court case be moved to a "real" court. You may have to do so immediately, however. There is nothing preventing you from bringing a lawyer with you to small claims court.
Small claims court is a place where a common man who can't afford a lawyer, actually stands a chance. Evidence standards are dropped for both sides, and at least in my state, the laws supporting small claims court state that everyone, from clerk to judge, needs to work to assist both parties as they are *laymen*. It instructs them to be helpful, explain stuff, and be lenient with minor technicalities in paperwork and procedure for the same reason. In "real" court, if you mis-spelled the defendant's name in your filing, you'd risk get your case tossed out. In small claims court, the clerk says, "uh, you mean Smith, not Simth, right?", and everyone moves on.
With the exception of borrowers using lawyers pushing lawsuits through small claims court to sue debtors with lots of bad/false/misleading evidence, small claims court is an excellent service to the public. It fills the niche of crimes the cops don't care about in dollar amounts lawyers cost too much for.
The blogger in this case was too stupid to fire up a browser and start reading how small claims court works in his state- or he simply lost his case because the other side (gasp!) had a legitimate claim. Either way, cry me a river.
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You, on the other hand, only have your own supposition about what was in the best interests of the parties involved to support your paranoid claims. Also you make the laughable argument that the loser of this little tussle will be happy to give away his $7,500 because he's getting "coverage" for his "cause".
I think there are some strawman arguments and some flamebait going on here, but it's not in t
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The GP post was concise, informative, and very convincing.
Care to tell me more? The superbanana's 500 word praise of small claims court as good for the common man is off topic and anything but concise. Then he contradicted himself to tell us how the same court's lax requirements are used to screw debtors. Mostly, I'd like to know what he managed to convince you of.
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In his response to you he explains what the benefits of small claims court are for the parties involved, and also that one party can request that the case be taken out of small claims court if the request is filed in a timely manner.
You completely ignore the possibility that Kap
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Maybe on the merits?
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He's a pretty fanatical anti-Islamic writer. It's no surprise that some people would not want to counter him in print. To call Kaplan a journalist in the evaluative sense of the term is a stretch.
This reminded me of the recent Finkelstein tenure case. Some people abuse systems in order to harm or silence those with whom they disagree.
Maybe he should hire a lawyer (Score:5, Informative)
California Codes 116.710.(b) The defendant with respect to the plaintiff's
claim, and a plaintiff with respect to a claim of the defendant, may appeal
the judgment to the superior court in the county in which the action was heard.
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(hmmm Kaplan seems to be a pretty right-wing blogger. That explains why a leftist nut felt entitled to attack him. Kaplan doesn't seem overly extreme though)
I'm not familiar with Kaplan or their ongoing feud, but FrontPageMag is definitely a right-wing -- or at least, neocon website. I'm very conservative/libertarian, and find very little to agree with on frontpagemag most of the time. It's very Israel oriented which quite frankly bores me. Those two sides can fling shit back and forth between themselves for eternity and never get anywhere :)
Just a possibility (Score:3, Insightful)
Maybe because you didn't have enough money to hire a real lawyer? Another victory for the $ystem.
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So you talk to legal aid, your church, your school. The EFF and others. Someone who can point you in the right direction.
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Who's rights? (Score:2)
of an individual against government action. There is no first ammendment issue in this case, as the governemtn is
not bringing action against the individual.
I don't believe that htis can be considered as a miscarriage of justice, but rather one individual's poor defense against
another. Salahi's blog takes every opportunity to question the integrity of Kaplan and his reporting, and is sole
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This is a miscarriage of justice because a reporter is considered a public figure. The Supreme Court has found
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There is a tremendous difference between posting on a message board something to the effect of "I met Chris Matthews
and he is a tremndous douchebag" and writing a bloguhouot a recognizable national outlet cannot be
considered as a public figure.
The definition of celebrity would need to be greatly expanded to consider Lee Kaplan a celebrity. I spend read and listen to
a great deal of media criticism and I don't believe that Lee Kaplan has occurred enough to register as national figure. A Google
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no other viable content.
There is nothing illegal about disparaging someone if it is true.
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Base don your reasoning, I could sue my employer on First Ammendment grounds becasue they fired due to the fact that every fourth word out of my mouth was "fuck", or that I always wore a T-shirt claiming that the CEo was "a temendous douchebag".
The only thing wrong with your assumption is that, in my
Not related to blog (Score:5, Informative)
So was he really guilty? (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.dafka.org/NewsGen.asp?S=4&PageID=1663 [dafka.org]
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The student set up a smear website against Kaplan where he fabricated stories that Kaplan had been sued for libel, posed as a congressional staffer and engaged in criminal activities.
Hello? If that is the case, it sounds like he deserved to loose.
It's Not That Simple (Score:2, Interesting)
Salahi posted a response below, where he defends some of the charges. And he has a point regarding the claim ("tortious business interference"), because his original email, cited as Exhibit A in the plaintiff's reply to the anti-SLAPP motion, does not reference the job at all. In fact, the e-mail was sent in regards to Qua
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From the horse's mouth (Score:5, Informative)
I will not respond to some of the other ridiculous things people have said above regarding politics and terrorism.
Here is a brief summary that I think Slashdot readers especially will find illuminating:
1) On the defamation charge
Lee Kaplan presented one allegation against me during the trial regarding defamation. In this regard he claimed that my website had the phrase "Lee Kaplan is a douchebag" and linked to another site with his face photoshopped on to gay porn. Had these allegations been true, he very well might have had a legitimate claim against me. However, these allegations were false and he presented them knowing that.
My website does NOT contain the phrase "Lee Kaplan is a douchebag." However, this spoof of my website on YTMND does (http://leekaplanwatch.ytmnd.com). Lee Kaplan printed this screenshot out and submitted it to the court as evidence, claiming that he got it by taking a screenshot of my website. He further lied and claimed that when clicking on the phrase, it would take you to another page on YTMND with the pornographic photo (http://doucheparty.ytmnd.com/). However, if that phrase was indeed a link to that page, it would appear in the same color as the other links.
The important things are: 1) the material he claims is defamatory was never on my website, nor was it anything I was involved in authoring or disseminating; and 2) he knowingly lied about how he found the materials and lied when explaining their source.
For those who are interested, Lee Kaplan is on the ytmnd site in the first place because he threatened to sue its owner over another site on their server mocking him.
2) On tortious business interference
Lee Kaplan alleged that e-mails I sent to his webhost complaining about defamatory material he posted about me (alleging I was a member of the US Nazi Party) were actually e-mails sent to his employer. QuantumMedia is listed on every page on his websites; I had every reason to believe this was his webhost and I had every right to file an abuse complaint.
Later, Kaplan claimed that after my e-mails, the individual at QuantumMedia, Haim Kamer, renigged on a promise to hire him as the editor for a sports blogging website called SportsBlogger.com. In my opinion, the likelihood of such a job existing at all is slim--I still believe the story to be entirely fabricated, and I think that that is a reasonable conclusion given that: 1) I have never seen, or been able to find, any sports writing by Lee Kaplan; 2) SportsBlogger.com did not exist last summer, and it does not exist this year either. What Kaplan showed in court as evidence of a passworded website-in-development was simply the standard default page for a new blog, populated with Latin text. 3) Lee claims he lost a $40,000 job offer, but sued e for only $7,500 in small claims court. 5) In an e-mail to me, Haim Kamer wrote that he had not spoken to Kaplan in 5 years. One month later he wrote a letter to the court under oath contradicting that statement. 6) There was no contract ever presented in court proving that such a job offer ever even existed. 7) if you really think about it: what blogger gets paid $40,000 a year, especially one whose own websites are filled with grammar, s
You lost, big guy (Score:4, Insightful)
Sounds to me like you're guilty. You might want to leave Lee Kaplan alone from now on.
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The man just said that the evidence accepted by the court was false. No matter what the judge said in small claims court, he was not guilty of posting the web pages in question. The liar in contention here, tho, is a douchebag. Since justice has, is, and will be for sale to the highest bidder in the social compact we accept, the defendant can never win.
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The man just said that the evidence accepted by the court was false.
The judge - no, two judges, didn't believe him. Some people lie - even posters to Slashdot.
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Even though they have a duty to review cases, I've been in a few appearances where the judge flat out said he didn't bother reading anything, please start talking; and then the "discussion" never was allowed to go in the direction of what I filed.
Not saying GP is right... but if he is, I feel for him
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Courts screw up. And I'm sick and tired of everyone here jumping to hindsight conclusions about the way court cases came out without looking at one shred of evidence and with what amounts to a complete lack of understanding of
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Now it may be that you don't have my basis for appeal. But that has nothing to do with the small claims system. It has to do with the laws under which the case was decided.
Many things are wrong with the American court system. It's too arcane, and it's stacked in favor of
Re:From the horse's mouth (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm not your attorney, so instead I'm going to say: YOU ARE A GODDAMN FOOL FOR DUMPING FURTHER MATERIAL REGARDING A CASE ONTO THE GODDAMN INTERNET. Accusing someone in the public press of criminal conduct (read: AS IN THE ABOVE GODDAMN MESSAGE WHERE YOU GODDAMN PRINT A GODDAMN PERJURY CHARGE FOR CHRIST SAKE) is not only very actionable in court, but can put you on the receiving end of a libel case that can result in findings the SIZE OF A GODDAMN HOUSE. No, I'm not GODDAMN KIDDING. How would you like to own a GODDAMN QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS? But you're going to keep running your fingers over your GODDAMN KEYBOARD, aren't you!?!?!?
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I'm going to be REALLY nice here and assume there is some substance under your ramblings, not just pure trollage.
What exactly did Salahi lie about in court?
Please enlighten us, since you were there. Just claiming someone lied, on a public website, would be libel, wouldnt it?
You and Kaplan claim Salahi harassed his employer, Salahi claims he tried to contact Kaplans ISP, to make them pull nazi allegations about Salahi from Kaplans webpage. Until I read the letter myself, I wont m
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Which the Supreme Court is as likely to grant as I am to win the Tri-State Lottery.
Four of the nine Supreme Court Justices have to agree that there is a clearly defined legal question - a federal constitutional question - here that urgently needs to be resolved.
This happens no more than 100-200 times a year depending on how comfortable the justices are with their case load.
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Get a lawyer. Get a lawyer. Get a lawyer. (Score:3, Insightful)
I just can't repeat it often enough. Sure, depending on the law a lawyer can't represent you in small claims court, but he can certainly prepare you for it behind the scenes, greatly increasing your chances. Besides, just preparing you costs a lot less.
Get a lawyer.
The confusion over what court is what and how appeals go simply endorses the point.
Get a lawyer.
Before it's too late (like after you lose).
Or maybe it's not too late. Think "countersuit," especially if you're right about him falsifying evidence. You might have a nice little defamation case on your hands.
Get a lawyer.
No Rights Violated! (Score:2, Informative)
The journalist sued for damages (bruised ego?) and won. The blogger appealed and lost the appeal.
Again, No 1st Amendment Rights Violated!
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Agreed. Some guy commits the very definition of libel and is sued for libel. He appeals and the appellate judge still thinks he committed libel. It happens all the time. From what I know, they're not going to let him appeal to a higher court, because the higher courts read the case and say: "This is a clear act of libel and it's only seven and a half grand." Why the hell should we care? You ARE responsible for what you say, even on the internet. Case closed.
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Jews are not the only Semites of the world, and criticism of Israel and its policies is hardly criticism of an entire people (let alone, all the world's Semitic people which include far more than just ethnic Jews).
That's pretty irrelevant. Despite pedantic semantic playing around, "anti-semitic" ONLY refers to Jews. Yes, there are plenty of others that could be called semites--including Muslims (Christian, Jewish, Muslim, whatever--it's not a religious thing like you imply) but that has nothing to do with the word.
I would agree that criticizing Israel and its policies does not make you anti-semitic though. DESPITE the fact that Israel IS a Jewish state, criticizing a country is not criticizing a religious people!
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Regardless of the merits or guilt of the case, the small claims system has an issue here that has clear abuse potential.
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I very, very strongly disagree. If you ask me what I am, I will say "conservative", because I tend to be to the right of center. But on some issues, I'm on the left - on others, further right
I think your statement - "anybody who labels themselves has that "my way or the highway"" - has about as much me
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Anyway, the case involved more than simple defamation. Salahi threatened third parties in an attempt to hurt Kaplan's ability to earn a living. Kaplan suffered actual financial damages as a result. The fact that Salahi used threats makes moot the usual defense of "My claims were true."
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Maybe I'm just jaded because I don't read any "blogs" (unless Slashdot counts as one - does it?) and so I just don't get what the big deal is and who so many p