Judge To SCO — Quit Whining 156
chiark writes, "Back in June, the magistrate judge presiding over SCO vs IBM gutted SCO's claims, as discussed on Slashdot. SCO cried 'foul,' appealed to the District Judge, and today that judge has ruled against SCO, succinctly and concisely affirming every point of the original damning judgement. Also included in this ruling is the news that the Novell vs. SCO trial will go first: 'After deciding the pending dispositive motions in this case, and after deciding the dispositive motions in Novell, which should be fully briefed in May 2007, the court will set a trial date for any remaining claims in this action.' It's notable that the judge conducted the review using a more exhaustive standard than required out of an 'abundance of caution,' and still found against SCO." As Groklaw asks and answers: "What does it mean? It means SCO is toast."
that's what he said? (Score:4, Interesting)
I realize that was a crude paraphrasing, but a more neutral/appropriate headline might make this a more reputable site.
Groklaw rules (Score:5, Interesting)
What's worse for SCO is, Kimball did a de novo review, out of an "abundance of caution," so they can't even appeal that issue.
Yep, SCO is toast. Please move on, nothing to see here.
There may not be a trial (Score:5, Interesting)
A trial date for any remaining claims
There is also the distinct possibility that SCO and BSF (their lawyers) will be punished for bringing a case before the court that has zero merit. It is a frivolous case and lawyers can be debarred for that kind of conduct.
What Wells said in June... (Score:5, Interesting)
So Magistrate Wells threw out half the case. Then SCO whined to Kimball, the judge of record in the case saying "Magistrate Wells is being unfair and thew out most of our case! Wha!" This is Kimball coming back saying, "Sorry, Wells was right. You don't have a leg to stand on."
After the Novell case, which seeks to prove, among other things, the disposition of the UNIX System V copyrights (which Novell claims to still own), there isn't likely to be hardly anything left of SCO v. IBM. Kimball was right to put Novell first the case might throw out SCO's intellectual property claims in regard to Unix altogether.
In the end, I fully expect IBM to eat SCO for lunch on the counterclaims, even after they dropped most of them except for the Lanham Act violations.
Re:Groklaw rules (Score:5, Interesting)
IBM & Novell have both been saying: No, you go first.
IIRC, IBM wants Novell to go first to settle the copyright issues, which would make large portions of SCO's case against IBM moot.
And now that I think about it, I don't remember why Novell wanted IBM to go first. I know SCO wanted the IBM case to go first, just to delay things even more.
Re:Novell going first not a good thing (Score:4, Interesting)
It's the whipped cream topping on the Pumpkin Pie.
The system works! (Score:3, Interesting)
Seriously, this is great news and Groklaw, as usual, does a nice job of presenting it in human-readable form. One hopes that the impending THUD of SCO will act as a deterrent to shell corporations who might want to try the same tactics. And real corporations would have something to lose in countersuits, so... Hmm, I'm feeling awfully optimistic today. I'd better have that checked.
Re:And the Downward Spiral Begins (Score:3, Interesting)
MAYBE this court case is why microsoft gave Novell the money...to subvert Novell's testimony, giving SCO a win...
</onspiracy> --jeffk++
and what would this mean? (Score:2, Interesting)
I wonder how the Novell-Microsoft deal will effect this case?
or do you think that MS has come to turms with Linux as long as they can control it with FUD and money.
Re:There may not be a trial (Score:5, Interesting)
While IBM very much wants to crush SCo they would prefer the crushing happens before trial. Anything can happen with a jury. But they have filed Motions for Summary Judgement which is the core of the dispositive motions the GP talked about. (AC or not- he knows the law.)
To elaborate further, in Summary Judgement the side argues that even if all the facts are viewed in the light most favorable to the opposition, they would still lose the case. Given the lack of evidence forthsoming from SCO, it would not surprise me in the least if most of the SJ motions were granted in IBM's favor. Indeed, a not unlikely scenario would see the trial proceeding only on IBM's Counterclaims!
Hmmm...now this looks familiar... (Score:2, Interesting)
Am I the only one who sees this as reminiscent the scene in Star Wars III where Anakin kills Dooku? Cast M$ as Palpatine, SCO as Dooku and Novell as Anakin.
M$: "Good. Now . . . kill him"
Novell: "I shouldn't do it. It's not our way. They're a LINUX distributor too."
M$ "Do it!"
(SCO's head flies off in appelate court)
"Always two there are - a master and an apprentice." Too bad, I really like SuSE.
And laughing all the way to the bank. (Score:1, Interesting)
Seems in retrospect this lawsuit was one of the best things that the execs there could have done (for themselves, considering their bonuses and stock over the past few years); as well as being the best $86 million Microsoft ever spent [linuxelectrons.com] for keeping Linux away from many companies with this FUD until they got a chance to launch Longhorn.
Re:Groklaw's Being Just A Bit Immature (Score:4, Interesting)
That is a pretty mild way to put it. I would say they attacked PJ and even went to the point of hiring investigators to look for dirt. While the paid analysts like dIDIOT lost all their credibility on this case, PJ has been an honest kindred soul who used her background and understanding of the legal system to explain what was really going on. At one point, they even questioned whether she existed. Having exchanged email with her, I can state that I found her to be a wonderful person who is living out her life and just trying to make a difference.