MPAA Goes After Home Entertainment Systems 402
philba writes to tell us that home theaters may become the new jurisdiction of our MPAA overlords. The MPAA is lobbying to make sure that home users authorize their entertainment systems before any in-home viewings. From the article: "The MPAA defines a home theater as any home with a television larger than 29" with stereo sound and at least two comfortable chairs, couch, or futon. Anyone with a home theater would need to pay a $50 registration fee with the MPAA or face fines up to $500,000 per movie shown."
The disgrace of it all (Score:5, Informative)
Oh wait, it's satire
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Um, you guys know they really tried this, right? (Score:3, Interesting)
Of course the BBSpot piece is a satire but did you know that this was basically the way they intended things to go when VCRs were first invented?
The story is retold in one of Lessig's books -- The Future of Ideas, IIRC. Someone invented a videotape with a lock, so that to watch it a second time you had to pay (someone) again and get them to rewind for you.
As I understand it, an MPAA exec rejected the design, because there was no way to tell how many people were present at a given viewing. They wanted a
Straight from the horse's mouth (Score:3, Informative)
"Suppose you invite a few personal friends over for dinner and a movie. You purchase or rent a copy of a movie from the local video store and view the film in your home that night. Have you violated the copyright law by illegally 'publicly performing' the movie? Probably not."
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"The Federal Copyright Act (Title 17 of the U.S. Code) governs how copyrighted materials, such as movies, may be used. Neither the rental nor the purchase of a movie carries wit
Showing of Movies for fundraisers, etc.. (Score:4, Informative)
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Still, well played, BBSpot.
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Too well played, I believe. Their site is not only being Slashdotted, but I think millions of gullible people are frantically sending each other emails right now saying "OMG, Dave, they want to charge you $50 for your big screen TV!!!" Their site is going to take a looong time to recover from this one!
Past experience suggests that I'll get this exact link from a well-meaning relative sometime in the next two or three months.
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Doesn't matter if the article is true or not; if it is believable enough, it'll still have power. Whether it is right to fight FUD with FUD is another question, of course.
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Re:The disgrace of it all (Score:4, Interesting)
Jeb
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What we have here is not really a capitalist system. It is more like a feudalist system where the overlords control everything for their own benefit and prevent anyone else from competing with them.
Wow. (Score:2, Insightful)
yawn (Score:5, Informative)
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http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/4/MS_Buys_Evil.ht
MPAA: So retarded this stuff's actually plausible. (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm sure most people have come across MPAA's anti-piracy adds. For example, there's that one that starts out by saying:
"YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A CAR..."
Now, let's just stop for a moment and consider the one segment of viewers who are 100% guaranteed to see this ad: Legitimate customers. What is the car-world equivalent of legitimate customers? Car owners. When was the last time you got into your car and saw a big sign saying "YOU WOULDN'T PIRATE A MOVIE!" spraypainted across your windshield? What about the candy equivalent? How often do you buy a Coffee Crisp only to open it up and find, drizzled onto the top of the bar in iridescent-green super-sour gummy, "YOU WOULDN'T POACH ELK OUT OF SEASON...". Does IHOP serve pancakes with motor-oil drizzled on top of them to spell out "YOU WOULDN'T EAT YOUR NEIGHBOR'S KIDNEY WITH A NICE CHIANTI AND SOME FAVA BEANS..."
Only the MPAA is insane enough to take the one thing they have to offer a customer and deliberately vandalize it in a way that only their legitimate customers are likely to see. The scary thing is that these morons have enough money to lobby the government for stuff nearly as crazy as in the linked spoof. Maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing if people did pirate movies a little more so that the MPAA didn't have quite so much money to throw around in Washington.
Re:MPAA: So retarded this stuff's actually plausib (Score:4, Interesting)
A friend of mine simply copied all her discs to her PC to circumvent it.
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Ironically, I copy the movies off DVDs just so I don't have to watch that crap.
Re:MPAA: So retarded this stuff's actually plausib (Score:4, Funny)
Ironically, I copy the movies off DVDs then erase the files from my hard drive just so I don't have to watch the movies.
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On the other hand I could download a ripped copy (for free), with no ads what-so-ever and watch it on my computer without having to arse around. Hrm... it makes me want to pirate more just to show them that their little advertisement scheme isn't fucking working.
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As someone who was recently a teenager myself, let me tell you: teenagers aren't that stupid. They do know that it's against the law; they just don't care.
The copyrigh
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Yeah. What's with all the "introductions you can't skip" crap lately?
I don't need to watch a copyright statement in ten languages, and which has questionable if any validity in my jurisdiction anyway, before getting to the main menu. Neither do I need to watch five minutes of trailers for other DVDs from the same distributor.
Like the parent poster, I now find myself looking up any DVDs I'm thinking of buying, and I don't bother if they have too much crap associated with them. Given the limited amount of
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Seriously, I own loads of DVDs, and it makes me laugh that I have to sit through stuff extolling me not to steal what I've just fucking bought....
Next up, music that has compulsory segments with Mr T shouting 'you better not share this, sucker!' every fifteen seconds.
Re:MPAA: So retarded this stuff's actually plausib (Score:5, Interesting)
How I understand it making a private copy of a dvd, or downloading one (ie piracy by their definition) is breach of copywrite, which is a civil offense, not a criminal offense.
Since it is not a criminal offense then it cannot be described as a crime (by the definition of the word).
Since the advert says it is it is suggesting that people who may or may not be commitinga civil offense are criminals which seems to me is slander...
But then again IANAL, though I would find it ratehr amusing if the ASA banned their trailers in the uk til they changed them (same for the ones about TV licenses for those that don't have or want TV but thats a completely different rant)
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> if you decrypt the video stream, you've violated the DMCA, a criminal statute.
DMCA violations are only criminal if committed for commercial advantage or financial gain. No one is going to be subjected to criminal prosecution for decrypting a video stream for personal use.
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Re:MPAA: So retarded this stuff's actually plausib (Score:3, Interesting)
But if someone could invent a torrent for a Ferrari F355, I'd certainly download one.
I don't download movies, but I sometimes really wish I could skip all that crap. I just put the disc in and let it play through before turning the TV on. So the recent ones insist on a few button clicks to get past. Bastards.
Re:MPAA: So retarded this stuff's actually plausib (Score:5, Funny)
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If anything, they've gotten me to stop simply consuming and to draw and write more of my own entertainment.
And yes, it is hard to laugh at this satire because it hits t
Re:MPAA: So retarded this stuff's actually plausib (Score:4, Insightful)
"you wouldn't doctor your books to get zero profit as a tax dodge"
"you wouldn't offer unsuspecting people the chance of a percentage of non-existant profits"
and so on.
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I will not be buying any more DVDs. I already don't go to theaters. I just wish I could find contact information for Fox Home Entertainment to tell them WHY their anti-piracy insults have now hit their bottom line (even if it is only a few dollars / year).
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Oh, those ads were very effective in my case. After I saw the first one, I started stealing cars, purses and DVD's off the shelf at the store, too.
Good satire (Score:4, Informative)
Re:yawn (Score:4, Funny)
Oh man, if only I'd realised it was a race. Thanks for the heads up.
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Joke (Score:2, Redundant)
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Satire? (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Satire? (Score:5, Funny)
Actually, I'm gonna go further. I would, if I were a gambling man, bet that there is at least one exec in the MPAA
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bbspot.com is a satire site (Score:2, Insightful)
Aren't there any editors around here?
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Yay for joke sites submitted as news! (Score:5, Interesting)
And the newly elected congress might be just busy enough to say 'sure sure' and pass something like this through.
I prefer the other MPAA story they have on their site though: MPAA to Thwart Pirates By Making All Movies Suck [bbspot.com] (It would be funnier if it wasn't so true.)
Re:Yay for joke sites submitted as news! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Yay for joke sites submitted as news! (Score:4, Funny)
What's next? Zonk posting "I'm getting $10million for Nigeria"?
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As for the "wtf, this is a news site why is this here", last time i looked into it (about 5-6 years back, when slashcode was readable before breakfast), its a communal blog with a comment system.
I like getting a funny every now and again, even newspapers have cartoons in them ^_^
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from the jokes-that-some-people-just-wont-get dept.
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The giant Monty Python foot, or the alt tag "It's funny. Laugh." makes it obvious enough for me.
Satire Humour tags and bbspot (Score:2)
RTFP(ost)
One month too late, MPAA (Score:4, Funny)
*writes letter to Congresswoman Matsui JUST IN CASE*
This can't _be_ real. (Score:3, Funny)
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Re:This can't _be_ real. (Score:5, Funny)
This is satire (Score:3, Insightful)
Another way to look at it (Score:4, Insightful)
Yes, it's satire. But that fact that no one would be at all surprised if the MPAA was really being that retarded speaks volumes about them.
I have an issue with "dirty work" organizations. Microsoft and other companies don't want to get their hands dirty suing customers so they fund the BSA. Record labels don't want their name on enforcement actions so they fund RIAA. One of the best things Congress could do for the consumer is strip away the ability of companies to hide behind their mafia inspired enforcement organizations. I don't think it would stop Sony from suing people for using file sharing software but it at least they take the PR hit for doing it.
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The fact that you need an advocate to find an advocate to talk to a representitive who may be able to help is stupid.
I dunno what's scarier (Score:5, Insightful)
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Artificial scarcity (Score:2)
I undestand that they want to protect profits, but the underlying problem - digital information can be reproduced, which removes the concept of scarcity (except for storage, network bandwidth and consumer time) is not going to go away. They are going to have to keep coming up with more and more draconion countermeasures, accept a certain amount of piracy, or move to another business.
What is next, chopping down the world's trees
So what DOES buying a DVD get you the rights for? (Score:3, Insightful)
Now, I really want to know this: So, what rights do we get for buying a DVD? The right to watch it by my lonesome? Should each family of four have to pay for four copies of a movie? If I want to watch a DVD with my girlfriend, should I have to buy two copies? If I could get four copies worth if I had a familiy, why couldn't a single guy invite three of his buddies over to watch the film? Am I really supposed to believe that buying a DVD merely allows ONE person to watch the DVD and no more?
Because, to be perfectly honest, 75% of the reason I buy a DVD is to show it to friends that haven't seen it already. My DVD library is a collection of movies I think everyone should see (and I wouldn't mind watching repeatedly). If I were "not allowed" to buy DVDs with this express purpose, I don't think I would buy any at all. I don't rewatch movies all that often on my own; when I want to see a movie -- especially alone -- I want to see something new.
In short: This is ridiculous. I wish there were an effective way to do something about it.
There is something worse (Score:3, Insightful)
P.T. Barnum was right.
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The editor DID notice the humor, since it has the "It's funny. Laugh." Monty Python foot.
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Is it not having the intelligence to realise that it is satire or that many people wouldn't be too surprised to see the MPAA actually trying to do something like this? After all when I heard that the RIAA was suing a dead grandmother ( http://www.betanews.com [betanews.com]
Got a good laugh out of that one... (Score:2, Interesting)
Perhaps not on the BOFH level, but still they have some pretty witty stuff, like God Going After Bible Pirates [bbspot.com], or Sony's Self-Destructing DVD Player(TM) [bbspot.com] Most of these skits are several years old, but still very relevant today.
. Thanks for posting this!
Z.
Any post past the 4th post.... (Score:2)
I must admit I came in too post agrily... and read that it was satire.
This is one of those RTFA times for sure.
Auto Slashdot Story Generator (Score:3, Funny)
Great idea! (Score:2, Funny)
That should probably be per person viewing, in fact.
Thats it.. Im going back to Betamax! (Score:2)
Home theatre? Is it even possible with Betamax?
Easy solution (Score:2)
humour? (whoosh...) (Score:2)
You've got to be kidding? (Score:2)
Furthermore, so what if you invite friends over to view it? Are you making a profit off of them? Does that really prevent them from simply going out and buying a personal copy for themselves? How many people here saw a movie in a theatre, at a friends house, or on a charter bus, and went out and bought it later on?
By the way, I
I know it's satire, but... (Score:5, Funny)
This isn't funny... (Score:2)
Any slashdot admins reading this, whenever satire is submitted, please make the tag so huge no one can mistake it for actual news.
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Sweet hook. I bit, but (Score:2)
Captcha: "analyze"
(well, in THIS case, it could be anal-ize considering the unnecessary vitriol and anger that quickly popped up...
Or, anal-eyes, since it seems weird stuff gets put up, as if well, impressions are in vogue or something...)
This is funny because ... (Score:2)
... somewhere an MPAA director is going "Hey, why didn't I think of that?"
Yeah - a bit too believable ... (Score:4, Insightful)
Thing is, when you say "they want $50 for any home theater system," I got the image (to borrow from Robin Williams) of two guys with the middle name "the" showing up at my place and knocking on my door (like "Jimmy the Fish" or "Johnny the Shark"). Because let's face it - the *IAA is just the new Mob, specializing in extortion using the legal system, whose lawyers should have the middle name "the".
The worrying thing is it's believable (Score:5, Insightful)
Don't forget that here in the UK we have TV licensing. Home Theatre licensing isn't so far fetched from that.
Satire? Looks like they're just giving the MPAA more great ideas... We're doomed!
Too close for comfort (Score:2, Insightful)
Errr... :-/ (Score:5, Insightful)
When I realized that this article was from BBSpot, I didn't know whether to laugh or be relieved...and that's a frightening thought.
Seriously. We have to do something about these media cartels before articles like this stop being satire.
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John C. Dvorak notwithstanding.
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If it does pass I'm gonna get a 400ft screen and put one comfortable chair in front of it. It will also have a stereo system so absurd it WILL wake people up.
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So what's the problem? Put the game down, and go play.
Z.
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They've recently stepped up in aggressiveness. Direct quote, for example: "After repeated reminders, you still have not purchased a TV License." Right at the top, on a big block of red: "This address has been passed to our enforcement officer
Long live the BBC! (Score:2)
Try and find a public service broadcaster anywhere in the world that produces better. Not only does the BBC produce programming good enough to export abroad, it also has a civilising and improving effect on all the other broadcasters in Britain. Even on our commercial channels, commercial breaks are shorter (typically 15 minutes per hour instead of 22 on some American channels), and the gene