Diebold Whistle-Blower Charged With Felony Access 585
Vicissidude writes "An employee of law firm Jones Day found legal memos showing that their client, Diebold Election Systems, had used uncertified voting systems in Alameda County elections beginning in 2002 - violating California election law. The whistle-blower turned over the memos to the Oakland Tribune, which published the legal memos on its website in April 2004. The company's AccuVote-TSx model was subsequently banned in May 2004. Now, the whistle-blower, Stephen Heller, has been charged in L.A. Superior Court with felony access to computer data, commercial burglary, and receiving stolen property. If convicted on all three counts, Heller could face up to three years and eight months in state prison. Blair Berk, Heller's attorney state, "Certainly, someone who saw those documents could have reasonably believed that thousands of voters were going to be potentially disenfranchised in upcoming elections." Sandi Gibbons, spokeswoman for the L.A. County district attorney's office rebuts, "He's accused of breaking the law... If we feel that the evidence shows beyond a reasonable doubt in our minds that a crime has been committed, it's our job as a criminal prosecutor to file a case.""
Gun-Toting Whistle-Blower Charged with Felony Acce (Score:5, Funny)
His public outcries of "Soylent Green is people!" led to a riot that left 4 people dead and many hospitalized in various conditions.
"He did not have clearance to enter the facility. He broke the law, and that's that", said the prosecuting attorney while nibbling on a cube of Soylent Yellow.
The NRA President faces up to 5 years in prison if convicted.
1 more steb backwards (Score:2, Informative)
Legal Questions (Score:3, Insightful)
One thing that I don't need a JD to see is that the prosecutors have their work cut out for them in convincing a jury that this man deserves to go to prision. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see a politician who's up for reelection in November introduce and grandstand over some new legistlation that would have protected this guy.
Re:Legal Questions (Score:2)
Re:Legal Questions (Score:3, Interesting)
If I knew a big corporation like Diebold was doing something like this in the USA, and I wished to prevent it, I would go to the media, rather than the law. I might of course do both, but realistically, which is going to get results in any kind of timescale that is meaningful.
What do you do? Call the local police? Lot of faith there. Begin procedings yourself? With what financial backing? Go to the government? At the speed they move and when there's a suspicion of complicity (not unreasonable with Diebo
Re:Legal Questions (Score:3, Interesting)
IANAL either, but it seems to me that a law criminalizing the act of an employee revealing internal company documents makes sense, especially when this involved attorneys speculating on the legality of actions of their client. I mislike calling information "property" -- for the life of me I can't understand why this guy is being charged with theft -- but the I think the principle of this suit is sound and makes for good policy.
Now, whistleblowing is good, but part of attorney-client privilege is that peo
Re:Legal Questions (Score:3, Interesting)
As this guy wasn't an attorney, and the Rules of Prof. Conduct exist to scare attorneys into good behavior, the prosecution is likely based on some law in a "computer tresspass" vein. Whatever -- the prosecutor needs to have his head examined. What a freakin' idiot.
Th
Re:Legal Questions (Score:2)
Its not Attorney-Client Privilege. (Score:3, Insightful)
I am not a lawyer but I am pretty sure that CA law does not protect client confidentiality in cases where the client is planning an overtly criminal act. But that does not mean that disclosure to the press is necessarily protected.
It seems somewhat u
Re:Legal Questions (Score:3, Insightful)
If he'd been working with police on an investigation he might be in the clear. Turning it over to a newspaper could present a problem for him though.
Re:Legal Questions (Score:3, Interesting)
Jury Nullification (Score:4, Insightful)
I'll never have to serve on a jury as I find it my civic duty to ask a question relevant to the case that forces the judge to explain that concept to those jurors who _are_ allowed to stay. The job of the jury is to ensure that _justice_ is done, not that the law is followed. If they determine that application of the law is itself unjust, they are absolutely 100% in their rights to find "not guilty," even if every single shred of evidence screams out otherwise.
Re:Jury Nullification (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Jury Nullification (Score:2)
Re:Jury Nullification (Score:3, Insightful)
i would settle for the Read The Bill Act (http://www.downsizedc.org/read_the_laws.shtml [downsizedc.org])
Re:Jury Nullification (Score:2, Interesting)
>I'll never have to serve on a jury as I find it my civic duty to ask a question relevant to the
> case that forces the judge to explain that concept to those jurors who _are_ allowed to stay.
What do you mean, exactly? What precise words do you say, and do you say it during voir dire? How do you know you'll get the chance to say it?
I've been excluded from a jury once because I refused to answer a question regarding my religious beliefs. Apparently I was the first person to ever do this. I explained
Re:Jury Nullification (Score:2)
Because that's why we have juries.
You personally should always behave as a moral being. If the law is immoral, you are obliged by morality not to participate in enforcing it.
You don't get to be "just following orders."
Re:Jury Nullification (Score:2, Insightful)
If you don't like the laws and find them unjust it is your job to vote for politicians that you believe will work to change the laws and end the injustices. Our legal system isn't here for justice, it is here to allow society to continue to function without devolving into anarchy.
That's a new one... (Score:2)
You know, the reason why it is the Department of JUSTICE, not the Department of LAW.
Re:It's safe to say (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Jury Nullification (Score:2)
Actually, that's the problem. It's impossible to cover all circumstances under the law. Laws represent intention. Language is imperfect, as is imaganation for all possible scenarios. This allows some people who violate the intention of the laws to get off because of loopholes ("technicalities"), but also means that someone might break the letter of the law but not the intention. It would be silly to think that the wording of the law is what should strictly govern guilt
Following instructions. (Score:5, Interesting)
"When fascism comes to America, it will be draped in the flag and carrying the cross." -- Sinclair Lewis
Re:Legal Questions (Score:2)
Agreed, if ever there was a case deserving of jury nullification, this is it.
When it says... (Score:2)
Re:When it says... (Score:2)
No, but the way he "found" them was his employer Jones Day (a law firm representing Diebold) had him working with them. While it's a good and just thing that we now know Diebold was doing what they did, the fact that it was leaked from a contract employee for Diebold's attorney is a Very Bad Thing. The presumption of confidentiality when communicating with your attorney is prett
Wow (Score:5, Insightful)
Living here is becoming creepier and creepier, I think some of Katz's old paranoid ramblings here may not have been so paranoid.
Re:Wow (Score:2, Insightful)
Whistle blowing is still allowed if you are connected to the White house and you are outing a CIA agent for no good reason.
Also, if you have the right connections you can shoot a man from 20 feet away and wait till you sober up the next day to talk to the police and tell them he was 90ft [infowars.com] away.
Re:Wow (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Wow (Score:2)
Looking back, it was certainly one of the more accurate near future pieces in the 90s, sans the simsense.
Re:Wow (Score:2)
Is this really a crime? (Score:5, Insightful)
"Certainly, someone who saw those documents could have reasonably believed that thousands of voters were going to be potentially disenfranchised in upcoming elections."
So let me get this straight. His "crime" was the fact he alert people to the fact that the local elections were flawed due to the use of uncertified equipment? Is it their argument that because of this people might have disengaged from local politics and that hurts society and thus requires punishment? That's not just absurd, it's scarey.
He's accused of breaking the law... If we feel that the evidence shows beyond a reasonable doubt in our minds that a crime has been committed, it's our job as a criminal prosecutor to file a case.
No it is not. It is your job to prosecute if the following criteria are met:
While the first criteria may well be true, the second one is not. As an aside, pne of the assignments that my brother was asked when he was studying for his law degree was to answer the following question: "Given the fact that Parliament can make any law it pleases, without being constrained by the decisions of previous Parliaments, would the courts uphold a law that sactioned the execution of every blue-eyed baby in the country."
The answer is no. Technically, the court would be obliged to rule in favour of Parliament. This is because we do not have a written constitution that safeguards our rights [1]. However, the view is that the courts would never uphold this because of it's incredible abhorence.
The point of the excercise is to demonstrate one thing to woodbie lawyers: "Just because it's the law does not make it right." Morality and law are seperate beasts. Lying to your wife is immoral but it not a crime. In this case he may have broken the law, but frankly I think that is price worth paying for the value of the information he gave us. What he did was a crime but it was not immoral and did not seek to undermine society.
Simon
[1] - This is becoming less and less true. While in terms of legal theory it is certain that Parliament is not constrained by the decisions of previous Parliaments, in practice this isn't true. There are some acts that would be pretty much impossible to repeal. The European Communities Act (ECA) is a prime example of this kind of legislation. While it's legally possible to repeal the act doing so would require leaving the European Union which will never happen.
Thanks to the ECA, we are slowly acquiring a constitution. The Human Rights Act of 1998 was derived from the European Convention on Human Rights and was the first act of Parliament to acknowledge our fundamental rights in the positive. (i.e. Paraliment stating we have these rights explictly rather than simply failing to prohibit these actions).
Re:Is this really a crime? (Score:2)
No, he's accused of illegally accessing confidential information from a computer. An analogous case might be if your neighbor suspected you of criminal activity and broke
Re:Is this really a crime? (Score:2)
Re:Is this really a crime? (Score:2)
why we have jury trials (Score:3, Interesting)
Common Law only has two parts that've been discovered thus far:
Civil law is when someone says "there oughta be a law". Legislators make shit up, try to
wait a minute.... (Score:2)
What would Robocop do? (Score:2)
1: Serve the public trust.
2: Protect the innocent.
3: Uphold the law.
Re:Is this really a crime? (Score:2)
What makes you think that having a written constitution safeguards anything? With King George II and his cronies in power, our Constitution is good for toilet paper and not much else.
Things are getting worse, not better. (Score:2)
All I can say is welcome to our New Labour overlords.
Re:Is this really a crime? (Score:2)
Nope. His crime was that he obtained unauthorized access to work-product documents of attorneys.
Would you want every communication between you and your attorney made public? How about communication between your attorney and his colleagues regarding your case?
No, you missed the point completely. (Score:3, Informative)
It's not that alerting the citizenry that a voting machine is uncertified is bad, nor even that blowing the whistle is bad. This is not a simple case of retribution against a whistleblower.
It's stealing documents that's bad. Violating attorney-client privilege is bad. Why, you ask?
Even those accused of murder and child molestation have a right to a fair trial. In fact, the more heinous t
Re:Is this really a crime? (Score:3, Informative)
This guy is an employee of a law firm whose client sent them confidential information. This guy then took it upon himself to violate attorney-client priviledge and turn the documents over to a newspaper.
IMHO, this is nothing like some poor bugger who informs on his employer for dumping toxic waste.
Re:Is this really a crime? (Score:2)
What happened to the Magna Carta? I was taught that that was a set of principles that acts a little like a consitution. If fact, some american law is based on it, even though it's not specifically spelled out in our constitution. (Trial by jury of peers?)
The Magna Carta was superceeded by the Petition of Right Act, 1628 and the Bill Of Rights Act, 1689. Both are still constitutionally significant today.
Simon.
Public Good? (Score:4, Insightful)
How can one balance the voter fraud versus the revealing of "trade secrets?"
More and more it is of the People, for the rich, by the ownership class.
*mumbles about the revolution and walls*
Re: Public Good? (Score:2)
Grandstanding? I'd like to see a FOIA paper trail about who has been urging him to prosecute.
What the hell was this guy thinking? (Score:2)
There's something seriously fucked with our public trust in this country. Why would this guy take this stuff to the media instead of the appropriate government authorities? Shouldn't he at least have tried to go through official channels first? It's not like the 'media' option would have gone away had those attempts failed.
There are plenty of ways he could have accomplished all the same things without breaking the law.
Re:What the hell was this guy thinking? (Score:2)
The answer to your question is emphasized (mine).
For historical reference, see The Pentagon Papers [answers.com].
I would have gone to the press too (Score:2)
Re:What the hell was this guy thinking? (Score:3, Insightful)
If he had gone through "official" channels, he most likely wouldn't have been coerced right there into silence and most likely, nothing would have been changed on diebold's side
Re:What the hell was this guy thinking? (Score:2)
Uh, if he broke the law when he acquired the material, then taking it to the police would have probably put him in jail (or at least on trial the way he is today). By taking it to the media, he may have been hoping that the prosecutors would have been too int
Re:What the hell was this guy thinking? (Score:2)
Damn...two mistakes on my part
prosecutors would have been too intimiated to charge himI actually meant too intimidated to charge him.
presumption that he obtained the material in a legal manner.
I mean to say in an ILLegal manner.
I must remember to use "preview".
Are you fucking kidding me?! (Score:2)
Remember this: Government is EVIL (but necessary). To think otherwise is un-American.
Re:What the hell was this guy thinking? (Score:2)
Tell the very people who would be most likely to bury it and cover it up? WTF would be the point (other than maybe earning yourself a ticket to a hidden detention center somewhere)? How far do you think the NSA whistlblower would have gotten if he went to the President and said "Mr. President, I have evidence that you're breaking the law" instead of screaming to the press?
-Eric
Justice American-style (Score:5, Insightful)
The documents included legal memos from one Jones Day attorney to another regarding allegations by activists that Diebold had used uncertified voting systems in Alameda County elections beginning in 2002.
And so, once more, the American public has been saved from a shameful case of fraud by its justice system, ensuring that decent, law-abiding citizens everywhere will fear for their lives if they point out that the Emperor has no clothes.
Was what he did wrong? By the law, yes; by morality, no. If you know something bad is happening and you're in a position to do something about it, shouldn't you? Is that what the whole Enron trial is, pointing out that the people in the know not only didn't do anything about the destruction of the company, they helped it along. When was someone at Enron going to stand up and say, "hey guys, you're doing bad things."
But that's just it. They had to pass laws to protect whistle-blowers in the first place, because once you did it, you had a bullseye painted squarely on your back. It was the only way to assure people that they could speak up about the wrongs they were seeing committed every day. And yet those protections do not go far enough as evidenced by this, where the old saw "no good deed goes unpunished" has apparently been made law of the land. All Ican say is, I hope this does not get pursued or there will be a freezinf effect that will allow big business to continue to steamroll people everywhere.
Re:Justice American-style (Score:2)
I have to believe that this case is politically motivated. It is hard to get prosecutors to take most cases. Even when the pro
Re:Justice American-style (Score:2)
so if you become a whistle blower you might need to change careers, for example your reputation and "fame" as a whistle blower might get you a job as a writer/commentator on your area of speciality. your income might drop for a few years... or it might actually go up....
how much is your self esteem and self respect worth?
suppose you say nothing, will you tormented for the rest of your life by what you helped to cover up?
Lesson Learned (Score:4, Insightful)
Of course, if it were me, I'd go to prison with a big, shit-eating grin on my face. The corporations are trying to Rule the Earth, and so this is a war between normal citizens and the elite. In war, people get hurt; I accept that. Heller may be a necessary sacrifice. He can eat at my dinner table anytime, and he can always ask me for a job when he gets out of prison. I hope there are many citizens who feel the same way and will help him when he needs it.
Re:Lesson Learned (Score:2)
Until he gets out of prison, will you also be supporting his family? Paying the mortgage on his house? Sending his daughter to school? Or will you just be grinning about how he stuck it to the man on your behalf?
Re:Lesson Learned (Score:2)
I've already taken my hits for everyone else before, although not as directly as Heller did. I expect to do so again, as corporations are becoming more blatantly illegal as time goes on. I expect to do EXACTLY as Heller did sometime along the way.
And by the way, go and fuck yourself, slave. You may be too knee-kn
Re:Lesson Learned (Score:2)
Yeah..sure you would. That rosey feeling that you "stuck it to'em" would wear off as soon as you walked in the front door.
Re:Lesson Learned (Score:2)
So go crawl back to your mommy and have her pat your head and tell you everything's going to be just fine. Your standard of living is going to drop at any rate, so why not go down fighting?
Re:Lesson Learned (Score:3, Insightful)
I mean, this is the fucker of the thing: corporations who market election systems are serving ONE type of client only. That client is the highly partisan board of elections in each electoral district. Highly partisan boards of course would want systems that they can perform vote fraud upon, as either more fraudulent votes in the fu
There must be more to this story. (Score:2)
Is he being prosecuted for taking part in the use of illegal voting machines? Is he being prosecuted for leaking diebold source? It couldn't just be for telling people about the illegal voting machines.
Something doesn't quite add up here, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to defend him. Why does the
Here's a clue (Score:2)
Maybe we should put G. Washington on trial (Score:5, Insightful)
You read this and your blood runs cold. It makes you wonder what would happen to George Washington if he was attempting to break the colonies from Britain today.
Sometimes government becomes so complacent, the people accepting of crap, that both need a good house cleaning.
In any event, this country needs a reminder of what the founding fathers had in mind when they formed this country.
It's all quite sad.
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Maybe we should put G. Washington on trial (Score:2)
Well, I imagine there would be some pissed-off interrogators down at Guantuanamo trying to get an electric current to run through wooden teeth.
-Eric
Re:Maybe we should put G. Washington on trial (Score:4, Informative)
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Stephens Smith (November 13, 1787)
http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/P/tj3/writings/brf/je
Re:Maybe we should put G. Washington on trial (Score:2)
Re:Maybe we should put G. Washington on trial (Score:2)
The same thing that happened back then: he would be labeled a traitorous rebel by the government. The point is that the leaders of the rebellion believed wholeheartedly in their cause and were willing to fight to the death or be thrown in prison, all in an attempt to break the colonies from British rule. Do you believe that the U.S. government has become so bad that people are willing
Re:Maybe we should put G. Washington on trial (Score:2)
God Bless America! in 2006 == God Save the Queen! 1776
As Always..... (Score:2)
Die-bolder (Score:2)
Send him directly to jail, that'll show him! Problem solved!
two words (Score:2)
Seriously, though, I can see where the Attorney's office would be upset about someone taking legal memos from a law office. I mean, it wasn't a Diebold memo, TFA said it was a memo between two of Diebold's lawyers, and that is the property of the law office.
On another note, it seems that with all the "errors", faulty machines and mysterious voting numbers, uncertified changes 1 week before the election, etc., I still personally go with my first statement.
As my civics teacher always said... (Score:2)
Whether or not you'll win (or avoid barratry charges) is a separate story.
Go ahead and prosecute him, I say. Whistleblower laws and anti-SLAPP laws should cover him. For a case as important as this, he'll definitely have the EFF and the ACLU behind him.
Re:As my civics teacher always said... (Score:2)
While I hope the ACLU helps out, I sincerely hope the EFF doesn't. He needs effective, proven trial advocates who actually know how to win cases.
Jury Nullification (Score:2)
What he did wrong... (Score:2)
Ah, yes (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Ah, yes (Score:2)
Jury Nullification (Score:2)
Re:Jury Nullification (Score:2)
Looks like people should start reporting crimes to the police instead of the media.
Happens everywhere... (Score:2)
The federal government has asked for an investigation about acts of corruption and abuse of power by this governor... but also one about phone tapping
The Problem is with the media (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:The Problem is with the media (Score:3, Insightful)
The "whistleblower" status is for people who know that something dirty and wrong is going on and turn over their evidence to internal agencies of the government to deal with it.
This is wrong. Whistle-blowers status is to protect individuals who divulge information vital to the welfare of the people in which the people have an overriding interest. In many cases they are reporting on government corruption and cannot be expected to trust other elements of the government. It is important that they can provid
Re:The Problem is with the media (Score:3, Informative)
Go read the whistleblower statutes. You're incorrect. Insightful, but incorrect. behavi
Re:The Problem is with the media (Score:3, Insightful)
Go read the whistleblower statutes. You're incorrect.
Actually, I have read them both for this state and several others. I was speaking of the stated purpose of the whistle blower statutes, which I was paraphrasing. The details of the implementations may or may not actually do that, but the majority of them state that the purpose is to protect the interests of the people by offering protection for those who act in the interests of the people when that interest is in exposing government corruption, publi
Wrong! (Score:5, Insightful)
Responsible whistle-blowing goes public. That's what it means: You're standing there blowing the whistle as loudly as you can to get attention to the wrongdoing. You're not finding some official to whisper quietly to about it.
Watch two sides of the coin before judging (Score:2)
Ok. But he commited a crime to do just that. He "stole" the documents and gave them to someone else.
Crime justified in the name of the higher good? While I do agree in this case (even im my books, stealing from a company is peanuts compared to the fundament of democracy), think of the possible results that c
Don't blame the DA (Score:2)
Re:Don't blame the DA (Score:5, Insightful)
Once again, RTFA... (Score:2, Interesting)
From the la times: In the memos, a Jones Day attorney opined that using uncertified voting systems violated California election law and that if Diebold had employed an uncertified system, Alameda County could sue the company for breaching its $12.7-million contract. T
Re:Just because you agree with him (Score:5, Insightful)
Correct.
(Warning: IANAL)
Diebold was knowingly using uncertified software to operate their voting machines, in clear violation of both the law and their agreement with the state of California. At best, this is breach of contract: at worst, it could be considered felony vote tampering.
Jones Day, a law firm which was advising Diebold and where the whistleblower was temping, sent several memos to their client about the subject. The memos appear to show that not only was the firm aware of the illegality of Diebold's actions, but was actively providing their client advice on how to evade detection, making them party to their illegal activities.
Heller discovered the documents, which he believed provided evidence that both companies had conspired to defraud the state of California. Days after their exposure, the state decertified the Diebold machines. The lawsuit which followed cost Diebold $2.6 million to settle out of court.
This isn't about upholding the law. This is about putting the fear of god into future whistleblowers when they dare to cross paths with a powerful corporation.
And that's what makes Heller's actions okay.
Re:Just because you agree with him (Score:3, Interesting)
If it is not, then let us make it OK! In this case particularly, he should not be alone. He definitely has balls to be a whistle blower (either that or he is an idiot to get himself in trouble). Regardless, if we leave him alone and let him fight this battle alone, Americans should be ashamed of themselves. You do realize that if this doesn't make news, eventually your vote really doesn't amount to any thing when every election is managed or upstaged by Diebold. This is not abou
Re:Just because you agree with him (Score:2)
The L.A. County prosecutor is the one who should be tossed in jail for charging someone trying to stick up for honest elections. What the hell are they thinking? Since when has undermining Democracy become part of his job description?
Otherwise anyone protesting crooked elections will be labeled mentally incompetent and sent to "re-educa
Re:Just because you agree with him (Score:2)
Re:Just because you agree with him (Score:3, Insightful)
In other cases there is no consideration for things like this....for example if someone breaks into your house and becomes injured going up the stairs, you are liable for his injuries because you neglected to fix that broken bannister he was using. Or if you set something up to trap burglars in your basement while you were on vacation and is forced to eat outdated food in your r
Re:Fuck the L.A. County district attorney's office (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Proper Channels (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:California Court System In Action (Score:3, Insightful)
You are fully familiar with cases concerning OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson aren't you, dear reader?
Yeah, I'm familiar with how one guy was acquitted because the case against him was horribly mismanaged and distorted by clearly corrupt police, and I'm familiar with how the other guy was acquitted because the evidence against him basically amounted to 'look at him, he's weird'.
Not every trial _has_ to end in a conviction. The idea is to find _whether_ it can be _proved_ that the defendant is guilty.