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SCO Demands Linux 2.7 Information 410

dr_d_19 writes "According to Groklaw, SCO is now demanding IBM to turn over 'all documents concerning IBM's contributions to the Linux 2.7 kernel, including development work'. Of course, there is no 2.7 kernel and no plans at all to create one."
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SCO Demands Linux 2.7 Information

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  • by peragrin ( 659227 ) on Tuesday November 08, 2005 @02:30PM (#13980532)
    It's not perjury if at the time it was true. And trying to pull such a stunt isn't a good way to impress the judges. It only shows the incompetence of your lawyers.
  • Re:No Plan? (Score:3, Informative)

    by kidgenius ( 704962 ) on Tuesday November 08, 2005 @02:39PM (#13980641)
    Says Linus and the other lead developers. A while back they changed their minds about how kernel numbering and development was going to take place.
  • Re:Waited For It (Score:3, Informative)

    by twiddlingbits ( 707452 ) on Tuesday November 08, 2005 @02:47PM (#13980718)
    IBM has asked for Summary Judgement, the courts have not allowed it (yet..maybe when Discovery is over in early 2006). SCO is really being allowed massive amounts of rope by the Courts. That is the reason things are taking so long. Which might be good if there is an appeal. Based on what I have read on Groklaw from legal experts, the length of time this case is taking is really not that long compared to others of a similar nature.

    Yes, IBM could have bought them for a fraction of the cost of litigation, but I think IBM is 1)standing on prinicple they didn't do anything 2) won't be "blackmailed", if they give in to SCO God only know how many others will be coming after IBM 3) winning in Court would clear Linux completely from any shadow of being derived from UNIX.
  • by Svartalf ( 2997 ) on Tuesday November 08, 2005 @02:51PM (#13980767) Homepage
    Considering that they said "2.7" in the oral presentations in the court, yes, this is silly beyond words, and I suspect that the Nazgul will respond accordingly...

    I suspected that this sort of BS was WHY SCO filed everything under seal- it'd be shown for the lame tripe that they've been shown to be holding in their hand up to this point. I think they may well have been handed all the rope they need and then some; I think there's some PSJ's in SCO's relative near future and a raftload of agony for the Principals on SCO's side in this whole debacle.

    Well, at least one can HOPE that this will end finally soon enough.
  • by Midnight Thunder ( 17205 ) on Tuesday November 08, 2005 @02:57PM (#13980822) Homepage Journal
    If the following forum is anything to by, people are talking about it:

        Linux 2.7 kernel []

    Even if it is not necessarily in active development, people are talking about what they would like to see.
  • by Svartalf ( 2997 ) on Tuesday November 08, 2005 @03:03PM (#13980880) Homepage
    Not likely...

    The transcripts of the orals give them saying clearly "2.7" in the discussions of the filing.

    That means that the Lawyer in question either didn't do his work going into the hearing, relying on the content of the filing- or he genuinely believes there's a 2.7 version. Either way, that doesn't reflect well upon SCO's Counsel.
  • Re:Ow. OwOwOw. (Score:4, Informative)

    by AceCaseOR ( 594637 ) on Tuesday November 08, 2005 @03:08PM (#13980926) Homepage Journal

    Wikipedia's got some web-based Ibuprofin for them thar migrane. The Story Thus Far:

    1. The article on the SCO vs. IBM case []
    2. The article on SCO's whole fuss over Linux in general []
    3. The article on SCO itself. []

    This should get you started in learning all you need to know to get you caught up. Hope this helps!
  • by bsd4me ( 759597 ) on Tuesday November 08, 2005 @03:19PM (#13981067)

    Linus did come up with some whacky versions numbers at various points in the kernel history. In mid 1992 there was 0.95c+

  • by anomaly ( 15035 ) <> on Tuesday November 08, 2005 @04:18PM (#13981684)
    What great things has America done?

    Let's look at Iraq:
    USAID reports significant progress
    In the areas of health care:
            * Vaccinated over 3.2 million children under five and 700,000 pregnant women with vaccination campaigns and monthly immunization days.
            * Provided supplementary doses of vitamin A for more than 600,000 children under two and 1.5 million lactating mothers, and iron folate supplements for over 1.6 million women of childbearing age.
            * Screened more than 1.3 million children under five for malnutrition and distributed high protein biscuits to more than 450,000 children and 200,000 pregnant and nursing mothers.

    USAID addressed urgent water and sanitation needs to prevent disease outbreaks:

            * Provided potable water for 500,000 persons each day in Basrah, Kirkuk, and Mosul.
            * Repaired 1,700 breaks in Baghdad's water distribution network, rehabilitated water treatment facilities in four governorates, and repaired over 100 sewage pumping stations, rainwater stations and collapsed sewer lines in 6 governorates.
            * Procured supplies to service water treatment facilities in Baghdad and other cities.

    USAID programs enhanced the effectiveness and long-term impact of health services:

            * Provided skills training for 2,500 primary health care providers and 700 physicians. Trained 2,000 health educators, teachers, religious leaders and youth to mobilize communities on hygiene, diarrhea, breastfeeding, nutrition and immunization issues.
            * Disseminated information on essential health messages to families around the country.
            * Renovated 110 primary health care centers and provided basic clinical and laboratory equipment to support the delivery of essential primary health care services to 600 primary health care centers.
            * Provided vaccines and cold chain equipment to selected remote health centers.
            * Developed a national plan for fortification of wheat flour with iron and folic acid.
            * Re-established the national disease surveillance system.

    Not to mention:
          * Power
            * Operations and Maintenance
            * Agriculture
            * Marshlands
            * Food Security
            * Humanitarian Assistance
            * Vocational Education
            * Business Skills Training

    In Indonesia, USAID reports $3.9B in US aid for tsunami recovery.

    I could go on and on with financial helpd, educational assistance, political support and more, but come to think of it: You're right. We stink. We are imperialistic conquerers who destroy foreign governments and enslave their people. In the name of all that is good and right, we should be destroyed by the good and freedom loving people around the world. Let the destruction begin. Americans are evil and stupid.

    Give me a break!
  • by rg3 ( 858575 ) on Tuesday November 08, 2005 @04:38PM (#13981933) Homepage
    You probably meant "cojones". "cajones" means "drawers" and does not make sense :/.
  • by YA_Python_dev ( 885173 ) on Tuesday November 08, 2005 @05:03PM (#13982212) Journal
    an individual named John Titor... the address does not exist yet.

    If anyone is wondering what the hell is he talking about: John Titor [].

    Funny joke, BTW.

  • Re:Of course not ... (Score:3, Informative)

    by Watts Martin ( 3616 ) <layotl@[ ] ['gma' in gap]> on Wednesday November 09, 2005 @04:30AM (#13987073) Homepage
    What you're describing is essentially what Ruby does: there are true and false constants, but there's also a nil constant, which is what an uninitialized variable is set to. ("Uninitialized" is not the same as "undefined" in Ruby; if the variable isn't defined and you use it in a comparison, your program breaks.)

    The problem, one could say, is that people aren't using high-level languages enough. But I recognize that leads to religious wars. :)

"Well, it don't make the sun shine, but at least it don't deepen the shit." -- Straiter Empy, in _Riddley_Walker_ by Russell Hoban