US Passports To Recieve RFID Chips 309
connah0047 writes "The Washington Post reports that US passports will be getting RFID chips by October of 2006. Despite security concerns, the U.S. has now committed to putting RFID chips in the passports of all U.S. citizens. The new regulations will mean that all new and renewing U.S. passports will contain RFID chips by October 2006. While some believe this is a step forward, there are major privacy and security issues with the wireless technology."
If only they listened... (Score:5, Interesting)
From TFA:
Abraham Lincoln once said [wikipedia.org] "that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
I don't know about you all, but I think that Abe was a pretty wise man with a great idea. I sure wish that our government was like that...
I can't help but wonder what would happen if everyone started "accidentally" microwaving their passports.
Re:If only they listened... (Score:2)
The State Department would rake in a ton of money from the passport fees when people needed a passport without a burnt hole through it
Re:If only they listened... (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm still trying to figure out how this could possibly add security. You know the immigration weenies are going to start relying on their magic passport detetctors, and it's not like you can include anything like strong encryption on a RFID chip without making it the size of a
Re:If only they listened... (Score:2)
Maybe we can start sell
Re:If only they listened... (Score:2)
Things like, "This will increase the security of our citizens at home and abroad" but with no mention of how it would do that.
Or, "Thank you for your concern, I am deeply involved in studying this issue, and I think it's great for national security." Blah blah. I'm not deeply involved in studying it, but my limited research sez that it's not a secure format, and my personal experience is that mechanical authent
Re:If only they listened... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:If only they listened... (Score:5, Interesting)
Or by a random wayside bomb. The time is past when only the anti-terrorists could do surgical strikes . . .
Re:If only they listened... (Score:4, Interesting)
Here is the way it works....
Congressmen hire staffers to do some basic work regarding writing these boilerplate letters. Many do read their email personally, but some hire staffers to do it. In any event, here is how I have had the most effect.
1) Write quick respectful summary letters to your congressmen to initiate contact on a topic. Wait for the boilerplate form letter to come back.
2) Reply to the boilerplate form letter. Include your name, street address, and phone number at the top of the body of the email. Reply in some depth to the points and *cite your sources.* Show your congressmen that you care about the topic and know something about it. You will almost never get a direct reply from this second letter.
However, you will likely get more attention.
During the debate over the authorization to use military force in Iraq, I sent my senators a letter urging them to vote no on the basis that Lebannon was using the determination to go to war in Iraq to undermine Israeli water rights among other things (Sharon was threatening to go to war with Lebannon over the water issue, and everyone knew Bush couldn't let that happen if he really wanted to invade Iraq). I got a form letter back from Maria Cantwell. I replied to this, citing my concerns in more depth, providing links to articles in Al Ahram, Ha'aretz, and other Middle Eastern news papers about the effects on the region politically of the threat to war.
While I didn't get any reply to this second email, I thought it was interesting that when Cantwell spoke on the floor of the senate, she offered a clear (if incorrect and overly simplistic) rebuttle point-by-point to my letter. It was clear to me that she had personally read it and had thought about the issues I had raised, even if she disagreed with me. If nothing else, it was clear to me that I had been heard. (She supported the war in the name of removing a tyrant from power, but I question whether it was wise to replace the tyrant with the sort of anarchy in which international terrorism thrives.)
What I am trying to say is that each of us is one voice out of many. It is up to us to provide clear and concise communication with our congressmen about any and all issues that concern us. If only a few or even a couple of hundred people write about these issues, it is easy to disregard us as a political fringe. Congress is a marketplace of ideas and we have to participate in it in order to shape public policy.
A second point I would make is that it is often worth initiating contact before the item becomes big public news because it is more likely that the congressman has not made up his/her mind yet, and you are less likely to get a form letter.
In essence communication with one's congressmen should be the bread and butter of political involvement. One's vote is where one's political involvement ends, not begins. One's vote is simply a form of legitimating one's contact with one's elected officers.
Re:Yeh let me burn out the rfid so i can sit in an (Score:3, Insightful)
Maybe a little more big brother watching might keep a few more people honest.
Translation: Take my rights! I wasn't using them anyway.
The problem with this view point is that these protections exist to protect you and I against the threat of arbirary government. Aside from the possibility of nuclear terrorism, it is highly unlikely that terrorists will ever be more of a threat to Americans than say Automobile acc
Re:Yeh let me burn out the rfid so i can sit in an (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Yeh let me burn out the rfid so i can sit in an (Score:3, Interesting)
Dude, all he is asking for at this point is a trial to determine whether he has violated any laws, like the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, which if the Government can prove what they are saying, it is very likely that such would be violated.
What the defense is claiming at the moment is that "enemy combatant" is a meaningless
Re:If only they listened... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:If only they listened... (Score:2)
Donald Rumsfeld has stated that encouraging terrorism is good as it "brings them out of the woodwood" (or something to that effect). Maybe you are more correct than you realise! ;-)
Re:If only they listened... (Score:4, Interesting)
Not covered in US media at all, apart from the LA Times where it apparently first appeared. The article seems to have disappeared down the memory hole; it's not on their website anymore.
A google for "Special Operations and Joint Forces in Countering Terrorism" [google.com] throws back lots of info on this story.
Re:If only they listened... (Score:2)
-matthew
Re:If only they listened... (Score:2)
I would imagine you don't get on the plane...
Re: (Score:2)
Re:If only they listened... (Score:3, Interesting)
OTOH, if using the chips were voluntary, but somehow got us through customs at a speed relatively equivalent to the EZ-pass lane for highway tolls, then you can bet there'd be virtually 100% compliance... and microwaves could go back to frying pacemakers...
Lincoln: nice words, different actions (Score:2)
Our current government is like Lincoln's in many ways. In the Union (the North) Lincoln was considered very controversial, hated by a large percentage of the population, and his handling of the war was frequently criticized (in New York there wer
Re:If only they listened... (Score:3, Insightful)
Mr. Lincoln was making an appeal to national unity (i. e. against secession), arguing that factionalism will only cause the death of the concept of republican government entirely. If anything, Mr. Lincoln's appeals could be better used to support RFID tags in passports, saying that we should all "get behind" the idea in order to "defend our way of life."
Seriously, can't you find a convenient Wilde or Mencken quote somewhere or something?
Don't like it. (Score:5, Interesting)
Earlier this year, I was sitting at a travel agent's office in Japan. There was a message prominately displayed on the desk in both English and Japanese informing travelers that they needed to have special machine-readable passports [state.gov] to enter the U.S. The rest of the world already thinks of us as loonies. This new nonsense won't help. Especially since we're requiring *other countries* to do this as well if their citizens want to enter the U.S.
What's the point of RFID in a passport? Is it somehow magically impossible to forge or duplicate? Can't we agree that the people who are willing to go through the effort to make counterfeit documents like this will also have the resources to handle RFID? Aren't there ways we can spend this money that might do something a little more rational towards increasing security? Like what? I dunno. But there are probably better ways to spend the millions (billions?) this will cost to implement.
Re:Don't like it. (Score:2)
Re:Don't like it. (Score:2)
Re:Don't like it. (Score:2)
It isn't RFID (Score:2, Flamebait)
Good question. Ask Zonk (or the submitter) since he seems to have invented it. Please note that there isn't RFID in these passports. Note that the article linked to never used the term. Only /. does. These are contactless smart cards, which have different implications than RFID. It would be nice to have a debate on the actual technology being used here rather than the RFID boogeyman that /. is so eager to chase.
Re:It isn't RFID (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm sure they'll be eager to hear from an expert like you.
Actually, John is an expert on smart cards, both contact and contactless, and he knows a fair bit about RFID as well. Actually, in the context of the present discussion, he is so expert that he can't talk about what he knows, and I can't either. When you've signed a lot of NDAs you have to be very circumspect about what you say, which usually means you have to err on the side of not saying anything, even if it's probably public information.
In
Microwaving passports (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Microwaving passports (Score:2)
So yeah, go ahead and microwave your passport if you want. All it'll get you is a book with your picture in it.
Microwaving passports 4 fun and profit. (Score:3, Funny)
In other news... (Score:3, Funny)
Oh cool! (Score:3, Funny)
Riiiiiight.
Re:Oh cool! (Score:2)
Remember, if you're a darkie or a hot woman, plan to spend some extra time being strip-searched. It's for your own protection.
Re:Oh cool! (Score:2)
Of course you can... if you're entering most (all?) countries other than the US.
Re:Oh cool! (Score:2)
I almost can.
When I walk through customs, they ask me where I am from and why I want to cross. Once they asked me if I had an ID. I said yes and before I could make any more to get it, they said I could pass.
I should add that I am a canadian white man and that it's when I walk or drive through customs, by plane it's a different matter.
Wonder how long it'll be... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Wonder how long it'll be... (Score:3, Insightful)
just think of the information you could collect hanging out in the airport lobby with an inobtrusive rfid scannr sitting under your coat, plugged in to your laptop
Re:Wonder how long it'll be... (Score:2)
As long as that's it (and not a sinister prelude to more data being put in there), I really don't care. That information ceased to be private once I started traveling on a passport. My passport spends 3 or 4 weeks a year in the hands of foreign governments (France and Russia) getting visas renewed, and it gets copied all the time at security checkpoints
Re:Wonder how long it'll be... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Wonder how long it'll be... (Score:2)
Re:Wonder how long it'll be... (Score:5, Informative)
And you would be far too trusting of our government since from TFA:
The regulations mean that as of October 2006, all new and renewed U.S. passports will contain radio frequency identification chips that will include a digital photo and all other information currently printed in passports.
All I can hope for is that it's encrypted somehow. Which means if the key ever gets out, all US passports will be readable via RFID. Best would be some sort of time varying key so passports in Nov2006 will have one key, passports in Dec2006 will have a different key, etc. This would limit the number of people affected by the discovery of a key, but the problem would still remain.
Re:Wonder how long it'll be... (Score:2)
Plus, it's too late now, you should have raised your objections
Re:Wonder how long it'll be... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Wonder how long it'll be... (Score:3, Insightful)
Especially considering passports last like 12 years, that is a long time in the computer world... Oh well, just be sure to renew before it goes into effect and you wont have to worry for a while.
Will microwaving disable the chip? (Score:2)
Re:Will microwaving disable the chip? (Score:3, Insightful)
So destroy your current passport and have a new one reissued right before they institute the chips. You'll have 10 more years of RFID-free travel.
Re:Will microwaving disable the chip? (Score:2)
Re:Will microwaving disable the chip? (Score:2)
If you are't leaving the country for the next 30 days or so, I suggest that you "lose" your current passport and apply for a new one. That way you'll still get an RFID-free one, but it should be good out til 2015. Mine just expired this summer so I will be re-applying immediately
Do not microwave.... (Score:3, Funny)
Robustness (Score:4, Interesting)
tin foil (Score:5, Funny)
Farraday (Score:4, Funny)
Oh, damn. I need to patent stuff before I post the idea to Slashdot.
-matthew
Re:Farraday (Score:2)
Electronic tollway tags get delivered in the mail inside EMF proof bags. This is because the mail truck might take the tollway and set them all off.
I think you need one of those bags. It looks like a normal mail pouch: heavy paper lined with bubble wrap, and a layer of foil between those two layers.
Re:Farraday (Score:2)
Although it isn't exactly a unique idea on my part to put a passport inside such a container when not being displayed to a customs agent.
http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/node.asp?id=21
-matthew
Re:Farraday (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.rfsafe.com/ [rfsafe.com]
You could keep you passport in your RF proof boxers [rfsafe.com] : $68.99
Pocket sized RF Shield [rfsafe.com] : $7.99
or simply make your own garments from the RF Shielding Fabric [rfsafe.com] 12x12" : $15
Re:Farraday (Score:2)
folks (Score:3, Insightful)
i'm not saying that you don't have a right to complain about this, and that there aren't real issues of snooping involved
but i am saying the solution is easy and the implementation of this won't be stopped
so get some foil, and wrap it up, and move on to fighting for something worthwhile
don't waste your energies on a done deal with an easy work around
Re:folks (Score:2)
Can't we get a fairaday sleeve sort of thing, where a fairaday cage is wooven into a fabric sleeve/bag, that we can put our passport into.
Sure tinfoil is a cheap solution, but gol' darn it if that weren't gonna be a sucky thing to keep in your pocket as a tourist.
Re:folks (Score:2)
Re:folks (Score:2)
-nB
no, freedom shouldn't be a kludge (Score:2)
freedom is something that must be fought for to achieve and then worked hard for to be maintained
it is a battle, every day
all i am asking you to do is pick your battles wisely, don't waste your energies on small issues when there are larger threats deserving of your attention
Enhanced productivity. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Enhanced productivity. (Score:2)
Re:Enhanced productivity. (Score:2)
And worse if there is information of use to them stored on the tags. I know that military people here in Australia don't like the fact that their passport identifies them as military personel.
For those of us with expired passports... (Score:2)
X-Ray Scanning? (Score:5, Insightful)
I really don't want to have to wait and hour and miss my flight as the prove that I am who my passport says I am just because some stupid chip failed.
Re:X-Ray Scanning? (Score:2)
Re:X-Ray Scanning? (Score:2)
-nB
Re: X-Ray Scanning (Score:2)
-matthew
Re: X-Ray Scanning (Score:2)
Re:X-Ray Scanning? (Score:2, Interesting)
It will be IMPOSSIBLE for you to PROVE the damn passport is valid. So then what? Get denied access back into the USA? Wait for hours? Days?
And it won't stop with passports- drivers licenses are next. Followed by mass collection and abuse of biometric data.
And, of course, none of this is going to increase security or enhance safety.
Papers please! (Score:4, Interesting)
Remember history or civics class in school? The inevitable lessons about how free the US was compared to Hitler's germany or the soviet union. Back then they used to point out how free we were because we did not need papers (internal passports) to travel.
How fricking free are we when we need a driver's license to board a plane? Or when our KIDS [gcn.com] need ID to board a plane? Or to visit a national park, or federal building? Not to mention the citizens are going to EAT [gcn.com] the costs.
More and more it seems the only alternative is to go gulching [wikipedia.org] until the country regains its "mind your own business" mentality.
Today's USA, The Anti-federalists [wikipedia.org] worst nightmare coming true.
Re:Papers please! (Score:2)
Power to the people.
And people look at me when I rant on about the restrictions the govt has and I wonder HOW in the world the people let this happen.
Oh that's right! People could care less when their MTV works so they can watch survivor or the latest csi/real world/shit tv. There's a difference between extreme nationalism and having pride in your country and being able to stand up for the rights of the people. It's quite disturbing when people look at me for not being that mindless she
argentina? (Score:2)
I see three periods listed since 1943 when you've been under a dictatorship.
So from 1943 until today, 62 years, 29 under a dictator. Yes, a shining example
of why I should trust my government to have me on file....
New Law (Score:3, Interesting)
shielded wallet (Score:2)
Slashdot editors take note: NOT RFID! (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Slashdot editors take note: NOT RFID! (Score:2)
Re:Slashdot editors take note: NOT RFID! (Score:4, Informative)
http://eprint.iacr.org/2005/095.pdf [iacr.org]
I am going to repeat myself here. Let's have a debate about the technology that is going into these passports and not the RFID boogeyman that isn't going into them.
Re:Slashdot editors take note: NOT RFID! (Score:3, Insightful)
OH NO RFID!!! (Score:2)
-The term RFID is thrown around quite a bit these days and doesn't accurately describe what they'll probably use. As in the often-discussed Wal-Mart RFID is dumb memory in a contactless format. It's probably not that kind of module, but I could see some benefit to adding something as simple as a unique ID to each passport.
-It's probably either a Phillips MIFARE or maybe Sony's version FELICIA (sp?) Which in both cases is very proprietary encryption scheme
Sweden among others have these already (Score:3, Informative)
Here in Sweden all passports issued since October 1st this year have an RFID chip containing biometric data. Currently a digital photograph along with digitalized information of all the regular printed information is contained in it, but within a few years fingerprints will be added to it as well.
The harsh feelings amongst the population towards these new passports is not restricted only to the potential integrity issues. The number of police stations where one can get these new passports is less than half compared to where one could get passports before, as the new equipment required for e.g. the photography is so expensive so they didn't get the equipment to every of the old places. Also these new passports cost more, and are only valid five years compared to the ten years of the old passports. So in the long term the queues at the police stations to get a passport will be far worse than it has been, and the queuing has been bad enough already for a long time.
Belgium and Norway are other European countries that have passports containing RFID implemented, and Germany will soon also have these.
A few words of sanity for an insane idea... (Score:5, Informative)
In other words, I don't agree with it.
WITH THAT SAID: Allow me to point out a few facts, based on previously-published material and my own knowledge of RFID technology.
First and foremost: What no one seems to have noticed (it may not have been reported in TFA, which I've yet to read) is that the State Department is, reportedly, going to weave their idea of a Faraday Cage [wikipedia.org] right into the covers of the new passports in the form of a metallic-filament weave. Bruce Schneier mentions this [schneier.com] on his site already.
This should, in theory, effectively counteract any sort of attempt to read the thing remotely when the passport is closed. If you're really paranoid about it, you can place your passport into an ESD Shielding Bag, [desco.com] available from most electronic component distributors such as Allied Electronics, [alliedelec.com] DigiKey, [digikey.com] or Mouser. [mouser.com]
On the subject of long-distance remote reading: I doubt very much we're going to see, as one other poster pointed out (paraphrasing), "criminals with laptops and a portable reader under their coat" any time soon. For starters, the return emission from most passive RFID chips of the low and mid-frequency ranges (125-148kHz and 13.56MHz) is very weak. The chip would require a significant amount of close-up RF energy to excite it, and a large antenna and high-quality receiver to pick up the return signal.
Going further along those lines: Remember that RF field strength decreases quickly, as you move away from the source, according to the Inverse Square Law. [wikipedia.org] The main reason that the low and mid-freq chips are only readable up to about 3 feet away is because, in order to have them work from further away, you'd need a transceiver the size of a large HF ham radio setup, and equally large (and obvious) antennas (the lower the frequency, the physically larger the antenna has to be).
For a criminal to effectively read such chips with portable equipment, they'd have to be standing more than close enough to the security folk to attract unwanted attention.
While I have found some references to the State Dept. having been able to read the test passports from 30 feet away with "special equipment," I also recall that this equipment was hardly portable, and required direct connection to AC power to be operable at all. In other words, it needed a lot more power than an easily-portable battery source could provide, and it was hardly what I would call surreptitious. Based on that stated range, I have reason to believe that the DoS was using 915MHz RFID tags for their test. Such tags are, according to this list, [rfid-101.com] very much readable from at least 25 feet away.
I've been unable to locate any references on which specific frequency or type of RFID chip will be used in US passports (anyone else have any references on that?) Despite that, I think it's premature to draw conclusions based solely on the news articles to date. News articles do not, after all, make for a technical white paper.
I would suggest that those who get the new passports, and that have the technical know-how, try to read them with an appropriate RFID reader. Try different distances and angles, see if you can actually read the thing with the cover closed and (if possible) try a variety of d
And Just How Hard Is It...? (Score:2)
I'd also like to invest in the company that is going to sell these holders. Just how long before Privacy Purses become the next fashion accessory. One that shields all the RFID-tagged items inside it.
Compulsory RFID implants coming soon (Score:3, Insightful)
Back in July silicon.com reported the following: "Tommy Thompson, the Health and Human Services Secretary in President Bush's first term and a former Governor of Wisconsin, is going to get tagged. Thompson has joined the board of Applied Digital, which owns VeriChip, the company that specialises in subcutaneous RFID tags for humans and pets. To help promote the concepts behind the technology, Thompson himself will get an RFID tag implanted under his skin." http://networks.silicon.com/lans/0,39024663,391505 25,00.htm/ [silicon.com]
December 2003 - Subdermal RFID chip provokes furore http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/12/04/subdermal_ rfid_chip_provokes_furore/ [theregister.co.uk]
October 2004 - FDA approves computer chip for humans - nice pic of an implant next to George Washington... http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6237364/ [msn.com]
This article was followed up in November 2004 http://slate.msn.com/id/2109477/ [msn.com]
Verisign thoughtfully provide a method to save you getting your child swapped in the hospital. "The number of total switching incidents is as high as 20,000 per year in the U.S." But don't worry. In this case the tag is not implanted... http://www.verichipcorp.com/ [verichipcorp.com]
Although RFID implants have their detractors...
http://www.spychips.com/ [spychips.com]
http://www.notags.co.uk/page26.html [notags.co.uk]
http://www.rfidconcerns.com/ [rfidconcerns.com]
http://www.shire.net/big.brother/digitalangel.htm [shire.net]
http://whiterose.samizdata.net/archives/cat_identi ty_cards.html [samizdata.net]
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/02/impl anting_chip.html [schneier.com]
And the odd geek or two: http://www.x11.net/wiki/index.php/My_RFID_Implant [x11.net] He has mp4 video footage of the implanting procedure. It doesn't sound like he will want to remove this implant anytime soon - OUCH!
The Mexican Government - "Mexico's Attorney General required the Mark of the Beast in a 160 people. Thousands more are now planned..." http://www.tldm.org/News4/MarkoftheBeast.htm [tldm.org]
And the European Parliament! "Brussels: 'Implants to track people are OK'". http://management.silicon.com/government/0,3902467 7,39128836,00.htm/ [silicon.com]
"Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely" Lord Acton (1834-1902)
Legal repercussions of destruction of RFID chip? (Score:3, Interesting)
I don't know about you, but all my RFID devices keep getting accidentally microwaved or damaged from blunt trauma...
Re:It's only a matter of time... (Score:2)
Re:It's only a matter of time... (Score:2)
Re:It's only a matter of time... (Score:2)
Re:For fuck's sake, rebel! (Score:2)
> by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 28, @05:34PM (#13900108)
> WAKE UP PEOPLE OF THE USA!
Eh, that's the big joke: ~50% of them thought they _were_ rebelling. Look what they got?
- Oisin
The US fixes things internally without rebellion (Score:3, Interesting)
Perhaps there are some history lessons you have missed. In the US we have in times of war temporarily restricted liberty. During the US Civil War President Abraham Lincoln muzzled the press, declared martial law in areas of political opposition far from areas of military campaigns, suspended constitutional rights, and o
Re:All for it! (Score:2)
I've found that in Germany (the foreign country I spent the most time) that people couldn't tell that I wasn't German just by looking at me, and one of my German teachers in an advanced level class couldn't make out that I was American by my accent (she guessed French, likely because being so relatively close to Germany, they can pick up a good German accent), and in general, no one would have ever guessed that I was American except by the color and look of my
Re:All for it! (Score:2)
Tuques [wikimedia.org]
Re:Dont see what the fuss is about ... (Score:2)
Re:Doesn't help Americans (Score:2)
Just to clarify, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (you know, the Mormons?) don't commonly refer to the "Book of Mormon" as "their new testament," but rather as a new testament. Also, the story (yes, it has a plot) starts out in Israel, then goes to the Americas, then has a flash-back to the Tower of Babel, then to back to Americas with a final war-to-end-all-wars
Re:the passports of all U.S. citizens (Score:2)
Re:the passports of all U.S. citizens (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:the passports of all U.S. citizens (Score:2)
Or, perhaps, the United States. Or were you living under a rock when the Real ID act passed? Well, just in case, here's a CNet [com.com] FAQ on the topic.
Re:Business idea (Score:2)
Re:smart bombs (Score:2)
Well for a start I think we will all have these passports before long. The US will require them for entry and other countries will have to follow.
Presumably all the information printed on the passport will also be encoded into the chip, and some basic information (name, country) will be easy to read.
So you could build a simple robot, something like the slamhound in William Gibson's novel Count Zero to search for passports matching spe
Go Directly to Jail (Score:3, Informative)