Blogging as Press Freedom in Repressive Places 243
museumpeace writes "CNN is carrying an AP story from France on the release of guidelines to help bloggers working under threat of suppressive governments to get out their stories without getting caught. "Reporters Without Borders' 'Handbook for Blogger and Cyber-Dissidents" is partly financed by the French government and includes technical advice on how to remain anonymous online.' Makes me proud to be a developer of communication software."
practicality? (Score:5, Interesting)
The only question is how much impact will a blog have on a repressive government like China (or worse N. Korea... if blogging is even possible there). Will the next Thomas Paine be a blogger?
Re:practicality? (Score:2)
Maybe it will help keep Congress from giving them Permanent Normal Trade Rela... er, nevermind.
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The sad thing is that this may be true. While Thomas Paine may have had an easy time of printing leaflets against the rule of King George despite any crack downs by the government, internet access requires a lot more infrastructure in most cases. With more requirements for expensive
Re:practicality? (Score:3, Insightful)
a) have electricity unless we are planning to have them use them for only 2 hours
b) know how to use a device they have never seen before in their lives
c) be literate, a lot of North Korean kids are skipping school to go help their family forage for food. Obviously North Korea does't release reliable statistics on literacy, but my bet is that it's dropping, and of course, it's in the governments best interest to let it drop for all but the smartest of individuals(s
Re:practicality? (Score:3, Interesting)
In NK, it's cellphones rather than the internet [strategypage.com] that are breaking the government's stranglehold on communications. The fact that it's China that's providing the tools, is ironic, to say the least.
Re:practicality? (Score:2)
If the next Thomas Paine is a blogger, how will we find him/her through all the spam? Honestly, the internet as a publication option is becoming less and less viable with all this white noise...
Re:practicality? (Score:2)
choice quote (Score:3, Insightful)
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I guess they can write freely as in their words aren't checked and they are not in prison before the publishing.
They can at least get their rants read before getting their ass pounded (which is why they get in both cases anyway) which is somewhat of a progress.
And afterwards too (Score:2)
Re:choice quote (Score:2)
His use of 'freely' stems from this:
"As I have already mentioned, if you want to print a book, poem, story, or even newspaper or magazine in Iran, you have to obtain permission from the authorities. Very many writers and journalists are affected by this.
But if you want to publish a story, poem or essay in a newspaper or magazine, it will be censored. So many Iranian writers publish their views in blogs, at less cost and they are not forced to c
Deaf ears? (Score:4, Informative)
""A call for free elections
We don't know how lucky we are to be in areas that still have an essentially free [although lackluster] press.
Re:Deaf ears? (Score:2)
Re:Deaf ears? (Score:3, Interesting)
A commercial media is not free media [wikipedia.org]. Our media is more limited than you are aware; no big consipiracy, just the nature of the beast.
Interesting Quote (Score:5, Insightful)
I am not sure U.S is that much better with our journalists. We should rename TV to the propaganda box.
Re:Interesting Quote (Score:5, Informative)
If I'd grown up with only American media I'd probably think you were kidding, but since I'm from Canada and have seen both Canadian local, national, and American local and national broadcasts, I can pick out the differences. And there are differences, although on some stations it's hard to tell with some Canadian broadcasts trying to use the American "non-news" model.
We need to start demanding more from our journalists, and stop allowing people like Bill O'Idiot of Fox News to have air time. People who lie that much do not belong on a regular cable channel on a show that claims to be fair and balanced. It'd be ok if he was on the Comedy Network, but so many people think he's seriously telling them the truth about whatever he's talking about. They don't realize that he's a government mouthpiece, and is essentially the anti-free press.
Perhaps we just need to teach our children to think more critically, instead of asuming that every white guy in a suit on TV knows what they are talking about if they either praise Jesus, or Bush.
Re:Interesting Quote (Score:2)
This is a great idea, being debated in Victorian education (Australia) at present [abc.net.au], with divisive strawman arguments against it (e.g. "educating from the back of cereal packets instead of classics","moral relativism will result in social destruction" )
Re:Interesting Quote (Score:2)
I personally would much rather have MORE Bill O' Idiots on. Bill is in fact a shit head and more then a little dull. That said (at least when I used to watch his show) he asked people very pointed questions. Sure he was clearly slanted, but I would take slanted and willing to ask real questions and press people when they start spewing PR speak over 'objective' and lobbing softba
Re:Interesting Quote (Score:5, Insightful)
So you've noticed the CBC's sometimes oblique approach to the truth?
We need to start demanding more from our journalists
No. We need to fire all the journalists and get some reporters.
and stop allowing people like Bill O'Idiot of Fox News to have air time.
What's this "allow" nonsense? In America there's this thing called "the Constitution". Everyone is allowed to have air time. They have to convince someone to actually broadcast it, but we have this other thing called "money" that's good for that.
Re:Interesting Quote (Score:2)
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Well, duh.
a) Nothing ever happens in Canada.
b) Canadians don't care about runaway brides in Georgia. Instead, you get wall-to-wall coverage about lovelorn mooses in Manitoba.
As for "allowing" O'Idiot on the air, that's the public's fault for continuing to listen to him as if he's entertaining.
It's the public's fault?
Yes.
So?
Re:Interesting Quote (Score:2)
An interesting aspect of "freedom of speech" in the Western world: the constitutionally-protected "freedom of speech" only gets concretized if you have enough money to get to the media. In other words, this "freedom of speech" only gets as far as somebody's money
Re:Interesting Quote (Score:2)
Right protection precisely means "not preventing you from". Possibly freedom of religion means you have a right to sacrifice chickens if you want to; it certainly doesn't mean the rest of us have to buy chickens for you to sacrifice.
Re:Interesting Quote (Score:4, Funny)
Something about that doesn't quite add up, I just can't put my finger on it...
Its like there is some contradiction in there, some blatant example of hypocrisy...
Oh well, its late, maybe I'll get it in the morning.
Free Press? Really? (Score:2)
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=163127&cid=136 27274 [slashdot.org]
Consider this:
Bill O'Idiot works for the government but the public either isn't aware of that, or they don't care because they don't know that their government would mislead them. Would it still be a free press if this government shill has so much air time disseminating government propoganda [lies]? Perhaps. But if anyone tries to contradict him on air he simply has to tell them to "SHUT UP"
Re:Free Press? Really? (Score:2)
BTW, it truly is sad that when its time for you to come up with the name of a journalist, the best you can do is Jon Stewart. He hosts a parody news show on Comedy Central, not a real one.
Re:Interesting Quote (Score:2)
I'm not sure Comedy Central would have him!
Re:Interesting Quote (Score:2, Flamebait)
Sure, you're excused.
I'm sorry, but "disagree" does not mean "provide lies".
Actually, it does. But anyway:
Bill O'Idiot provides what he calls facts to an unsuspecting and easily swayed audience, when in fact his facts are complete BS or outright lies.
Cite.
It's not hard to verify this, just do a search through google and you'll find video clips of document
Re:Interesting Quote (Score:2)
Actually, it does. But anyway:"
No, it doesn't. See that? I just disagreed with you, and didn't lie to do it.
I could have said, "No, it doesn't because you're a dense mofo," which would have been lying to support my opposing position [or at least I assume it'd be lying?].
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All your cite are belong to MediaMatters.org [mediamatters.org]
Oh look:
"O'Reilly again falsely accused former guest of claiming that Bush "orchestrat[ed] 9-11"
On the September 21 edition of Fox N
Re:Interesting Quote (Score:2)
The point is, freedom of the press for those that agree with you includes freedom for everyone.
If they lie, you can prove the lie, and they will lose credibility. Example: Dan Rather.
But there is no law, and there should never be a law, that someone cannot speak because you claim that they are lying. Or even if they are lying. Of course, if they are defaming you, you can take civil action against them. That's a whole 'nother la
Re:Interesting Quote (Score:2)
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"How do any of those shows keep the people free to do that? What they in fact do is engage in criticising people in power.
The point of the free press is the dissemination of information. And that's it."
How do you think Bill O' operates? He's *engaged* in shilling the administrat
Re:Interesting Quote (Score:2)
You mean like how you think the Daily Show is news? Most people understand that he is airing opinions not news, even if you don't, much like a columnist writing for a newspaper. Or do you think the editorial pages should be moved because "people might get confused"?
BTW, tha
Re:Interesting Quote (Score:2)
The WMD fiasco (from the media POV which blindly printed what they were told to) didn't seem to change that feeling much...
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Your political views are the way they are due to the input you receive from your media, etc. I doubt you just stumbled onto a
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I still haven't figured where the "news" come in, I've certainly never seen any on CNN.
But I have to agree that none of the hotels seemed to be especially pro Iraq or Bush(or anti- for that matter, as hotels go, they didn't seem to have much of an
Meanwhile, in the US, bloggers cry out for freedom (Score:4, Informative)
WASHINGTON--Political bloggers on Tuesday urged federal regulators to keep the Internet as free as possible from campaign finance laws.
At a public hearing convened by the Federal Election Commission, both liberal and conservative political commentators lauded the brand of freewheeling online politicking that has characterized recent elections. The FEC is under a court order to extend campaign finance rules to the Internet, and the Democratic commissioners voted not to appeal.
Online politicking should not be subject to onerous federal rules, Democratic FEC Commissioner Ellen Weintraub said. "We're all agreed about that." But, Weintraub added, "What is the best way for us to regulate bloggers?"
Radio and TV stations generally are immune from campaign finance laws unless their "facilities" are controlled by a political party or candidate.
One option, suggested by Republican Commissioner Michael Toner, would be to extend the same logic to say the "facilities" of Web servers should immunize political speech online.
http://news.com.com/Bloggers+plead+for+freedom+fr
Re:Meanwhile, in the US, bloggers cry out for free (Score:2)
The best part about freedom of speech in the US is that politicians and regulatory bodies are only one layer of protection. It isn't exclusively the job of the president or the congress to protect your speech. That isn't to say that they shouldn't be watching out for your freedom of speech, but simply that they are not the only line of defense. There are other layers of protection of freedom of speech that exist.
This law is a
Re:Meanwhile, in the US, bloggers cry out for free (Score:2)
Just some links if you want them... (Score:3, Informative)
Handbook (PDF): http://www.rsf.org/IMG/pdf/handbook_bloggers_cybe
Reporters without Borders (English): http://www.rsf.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=20 [rsf.org]
Thought (Score:2, Interesting)
It's not just paranoia (Score:2)
If you can just say anything anonymously, don't have to put your reputation on the line, and don't have to check and document your sources either... well, let's put it like this: we've already been there. It doesn't take paranoia or conspiracy theories to imagine a potential outcome, since we have plenty
Re:Thought (Score:2)
But the public revelations of US torture in Abu Ghraib are the result of websites and bloggers. What has been the core of US federal response to them? Forbidding digital cameras amoung prison guards....
Kudos to Reporters Without Borders (Score:4, Interesting)
Item #1 (Score:5, Funny)
guidelines to help bloggers working under threat of suppressive governments
#1 Do not use a yahoo email account
Re:Item #1 (Score:2, Insightful)
#2 Don't use google
#3 ditto Microsoft
"What's actually profane is a company that built its future on the freedom provided by the American system helping a repressive regime censor such ideas." - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1486268/p osts [freerepublic.com]
so what if (Score:2)
Re:so what if (Score:2)
Re:so what if (Score:2)
Uhm, downloading a book that goes directly against the policy of the government, from a government controlled internet access, is less than wise methinks
But yes, you could have somebody bring you the book. But that means it won't be available to the masses so easily as in other countries.
Simple Answer (Score:3, Insightful)
Blog on Freenet.
great idea! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Simple Answer (Score:2)
Only valid where doing so is not a crime (even if the only thing they charge you with was that you were viewing porn).
Censorship? Whats that?! (Score:3, Interesting)
"PARIS (Reuters) - A Paris-based media watchdog released a handbook on Thursday to help cyber-dissidents and bloggers avoid political censorship in countries as far apart as China, Iran, Vietnam and Cuba."
Xinhua article [xinhuanet.com] quote:
"BEIJING, Sept. 23 (Xinhuanet) -- A Paris-based media watchdog released a free guide Thursday to help bloggers and cyber-dissidents avoid political censorship in countries as far apart as Iran, Vietnam and Cuba."
Re:Censorship? Whats that?! (Score:2)
[*] The Xinhua article does include the word "(Agencies)" at the bottom... maybe that's an attribution...
Use Tor (Score:2)
HJ
Copyright on the book, and access to the PDF (Score:2)
The English version states a 'standard' copyright message (C 2005 RSF), nothing more. Since copyright usually implies 'no reproduction', I assume I'm not allowed to. It would have made sense to include a statement that explicitly allows copying and printing the PDF.
The PDF files themselves can use some improvement as well. The UK version has registration marks, is 'printed
Re:We need this here in Jesusland (Score:4, Interesting)
From TFA:
That's routine in countries such as Iran and China; here the worst you can state is that you don't like the liberal slant of CNN.
Really, things here could be much worse; wake me up when we've got our own Falun Gong problem here.
Re:We need this here in Jesusland (Score:3)
Re:We need this here in Jesusland (Score:5, Insightful)
they send propoganda based programs through satellite (since that's what most tv viewers in Iran have) from the US, funded by taxpayer dollars.
the neocons on one end, keep pushing the US govt to start a "regime-change", then there's Israel who keeps saying Iran is developing nuclear weapons (never mind that they kept saying the same thing about Iraq before 2003). all the inspecters and IAEA reps that have been there all found only plans for a nuclear energy station.
there's an enormous campaign being waged against Iran, seeing as they're one of the few states in the middle east not under the control of the US and UK. they used to be though... if you remember, even just recently they tried to install the brutal and totalitarian regime of the shah (not ironically after the British empire got tired of them). they wanted the oil and natural resources of a soverign nation, so with the help of the CIA, they pulled off a coup d'etat.
frankly, every time i hear a story about "Iran suppressing and jailing journalists" i don't see a story about freedom of speech, i see them jailing enemy agents and spies. oh, how the US would benefit from doing the same to all those spies in America. and i mean the US people, the govt just overlooks it, cause most of the spies are from "favored" nations... you can probably guess which.
it must take a real braindead Iranian immigrant to want the US to take over to help propogandize their own people. it's like those colloborators in V... selling out the human race to the reptiles so they can be a little richer or have more power. (that sci fi reference thrown in cause we're geeks). there are plenty of real world examples of being a backstabbing judas but that's what history class is for
Re:We need this here in Jesusland (Score:2)
Sorry I don't buy that. There are plenty of Iranians who are not associated with the USA, UK or whatever, and still voted against the current government.
Re:We need this here in Jesusland (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:We need this here in Jesusland (Score:2)
Oh don't worry... we'll take care of them heathen religious nuts if they ever show up here... Remember what we did when we had that little Branch Davidian problem here? We sure showed them....
Wait a minute - what did you mean?
Re:We need this here in Jesusland (Score:3, Insightful)
heh (Score:3, Informative)
Perhaps you should look at some prison numbers. We're the most incarcerated nation in the world at this point.
Re:We need this here in Jesusland (Score:2)
And the government doesn't round them up and haul them to the gulags for doing so, either.
Re:We need this here in Jesusland (Score:3, Informative)
And to all other westerners that claim is utterly hilarious. First of all, there is no such thing as neutral. Secondly: by the standards of media in other democracies (which I'm sure you'll agree is a relevant one, at least more so than the alternatives), FOX is a ridiculously extreme far-right/nationalist freakshow, and CNN is pretty damn conservative (though the european broadcasts is mildened down a bit so us furreners might n
Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:5, Insightful)
BUSH IS A CUM GUZZLING FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. HIS IS A FUCKING TERRORIST SHIT FUCKER. BUSH, AND BY BUSH I MEAN THAT BIG FUCKING RANK ASS VAGINA THAT WE CALL MR FUCK-HEAD-PRESIDENT, IS RUINING THE GOVERNMENT AND THIS ENTIRE GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCING NATION. JESUS FUCKING THE SWEET VIRGIN MERRY IN HER TIGHT LITTLE VIRGIN ASS DO I FUCKING HATE BUSH! FOR THE REVOLUTION!
Oh wait, it didn't come. For fucks sake people, I hate Bush, I hate the PATRIOT Act, I don't really like our foreign policies or our domestic policies. That said, chill. The world is not over yet. I was down in DC during the height of the anti-war protests where people were wandering around with signs that make the above look down right pleasant. I was in Boston for the big protest in the commons. Free speech is alive and well. No one is going to throw you in jail for talking shit about Jesus. Hell, I fucking hate Jesus and no police have ever given me shit about it. I mean, I have a fucking bumper sticker that says "Jesus hates you, but everyone else thinks you're an asshole" on my car, yet the only time I have been pulled over is when I was doing 20+ over the speed limit.
Get out of your narrow little American world view and realize that there are places in the world that make "Jesusland" look like a fucking utopia. Hell, the US has even more liberal free speech laws compared to even Europe, and Europe is pretty damn liberal. Try wearing a swastika in Germany or France and see how long it takes for the police to drag you off the streets.
Nothing is more irritating then stupid Americans whose world view doesn't go any farther then 48 states. There is a lot to complain about when it comes to the US. I could make a laundry list of domestic and foreign policy issues I have with out incompetent leaders. Free speech oppression doesn't fall on that list. You think you live in Gestapo land? Try traveling a little bit and see what REAL poverty and oppression looks like. You have never seen poverty and you sure as shit have never seen oppression.
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2)
Thank you. Thank you. You have nailed the rank hypocrisy right on its pointy head.
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2)
Cite.*
* Short-hand for "give us a specific documented example, or shut up and sit down".
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:5, Informative)
How about the erosion of the 4th Amendment with the USA Patriot Act [loc.gov]?
Or perhaps the human rights violations [amnesty.org] in Guantanamo bay?
Or the government intervention in something as personal as marriage [cnn.com]?
Or the War on Privacy, err War on drugs [wikipedia.org]?
Maybe the widening gap between the rich and poor [post-gazette.com]? Perhaps the government endorsing religion [whitehouse.gov]?
Is that a good enough start?
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2)
Cite.
Or perhaps the human rights violations in Guantanamo bay?
Cite. (And since Amnesty International are clearly insane on this subject, I won't take their word for anything anymore.)
Or the government intervention in something as personal as marriage?
Damn straight. The government should get out of the marriage business entirely.
How this is an example of "going backwards" in terms of civil liberties, though, I'm not sure.
Or the War on P
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2)
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2)
I don't know why, but they are.
They claimed that Guantanamo is the American Gulag. Millions of people died of starvation, cold, and overwork in the Russian Gulags. Zero people have died at Guantanamo. Zero.
The US violating international law in the same way as the Iranian Bajiri is an absolute disgrace.
Well, it might be a disgrace if such a thing had in fact happened.
That's the point, you see. Nothing of the sort has happened at Guantanamo.
There may have been violations at
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2)
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:5, Informative)
You didn't like my citation for the patriot act? I linked you to the Library of Congress. Fine, perhaps you wanted me to be more specific. I refer you to really all of Title II (Enhanced Surveillance Procedures), specificaly Sect. 201 (Authority to intercept wire, oral, and electronic communications relating to terrorism) and Sec. 213 (Authority for delaying notice of the execution of a warrant)
You didn't like the Wikipedia article on the Drug War? I tried wikipedia to give a general overview of how wasteful and invasive it is, but tak a good look at the US Department of Labor Drug Regulations [dol.gov] to see just how much your employer is allowed to drug test you.
Check my constitution? Well I don't know about yours, the first Amedment of mine starts out with "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". So my commander-in-chief endorsing religion using government resources sure feels like its breaking the spirit of the law right in half.
If you want to call my reference to the widening economic gap a stretch, fine. But I do suggest a history lesson on the age of the American Robber Barons [wikipedia.org].
I don't know what else to say if you don't like these sources. Its easy for you to repeat "cite" or just ignore sources who don't share your viewpoint, but it's unhelpful. If you're not satisfied, perhaps you could disprove my original point that Americans are moving backwards in regards to civil liberties?
In other words, if you disagree, how can you prove to me that America has aggressivley maintained or improved liberties since the civil rights movement?
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2)
What Gay Marriage Amendment?
You do realise this doesn't exist, right?
The DMCA.
Okay. Yes. Point for you on that one. The DMCA isn't the demon that some Slashdotters make it out to be, but it is a lousy law and it is a step backwards for civil liberties.
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2)
Things are a mess, but perhaps some are waking up. For instance, the destruction of 2.5 terabytes of 'Able Danger' data that indicated the U.S. Government was aware of the terrorist threat one year beforehand, and that 4 of them were identified. At least some in congress are waking up.
Link [google.com]
"I think the Department of Defense owes the American people an explanation of what went on here," said Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.).
Oh, and it looks like Rita may be turning towards New Orleans in the las
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2)
I was in Boston for the big protest in the commons.
Free speech is alive and well.
Yeah, in the free speech zones [skywriting.com] it is!
Hoo-fucking-ray for America, home of the caged, land of pussies.
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2)
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2, Interesting)
While you were busy travelling with your Jesus hating cohorts, the Catholic Campaign for Human Development produced this report :
Today nearly 36 million Americans live in a state of poverty - http://www.usccb.org/cchd/povertyusa/ [usccb.org]
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2)
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2)
Out of curiosity's sake, lets do a little experiment:
Go to Manhattan wearing a t-shirt with the text "I hereby declare my allegiance a
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2)
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2)
'Cause the 229 so far haven't been enough! A few more years and wham! Repression! Mark my word, a few more years... Few more... Years... Words... Mark them, will ya, I'm out of chalk.
Free speech is not a given in America
YES IT BLOODY WELL IS!!!!!
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the pe
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2, Insightful)
It's not a given. You have to keep vigilant and fight if necessary to keep the rights described on that old piece of paper.
Re:Jesusland Needs Fewer Narrow Minded Americans (Score:2)
Second paragraph.
social pressure and free speech (Score:2)
If by "severe consequences" you mean someone with a clue will tell you that your statement is false, ignorant, and idiotic, then you're right. And that's exactly the point of freedom of speech - it is not just about
Re:We need this here in Jesusland (Score:5, Insightful)
The America described in that little document called the Constitution of the United States, the one that doesn't mention the words 'God', 'Creator' or 'Jesus' even once.
Re:But... (Score:4, Insightful)
Nay, the blog is supposed to draw attention to the publisher's opinion (if he has any, that is, otherwise he's just one more attention whore in the intarweb), to allow him to express said opinion and have it noticed instead of just being a lost voice in the background noise.
Re:But... (Score:2)
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/22/16222
Something about blogging as therapy? Theres a fine distinction here, political dissidency often (or is it just sometimes?) being a symptom of neurotic personalities in need of some therapy.
Re:But... (Score:2)
Re:Ironic (Score:3, Insightful)
Would that freedom include crying 'fire' in a crowded theater too?
Freedom of speech is a basic human right to express one's opinions, not a blanket license to incite terror, hatred and bigotry. That is NOT what the freedom is meant for.
Re:Ironic (Score:2, Insightful)
Wiki says http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_expression / [wikipedia.org] "The right to freedom of expression is not considered unlimited"
Re:Why not before? (Score:2)
Re:Why not before? (Score:2, Insightful)
Laughing out loud at this, quite literally. Governments aren't in charge of protecting rights. That's a lie you've been sold. Governments are purchased and propped up by those with wealth for the purpose of protecting the privileges of same wealthy people.
(feeling very cynical today. my post is myopic but only half-sarcastic, i understand your post was also sarcastic)
Re:The end of anonymity (Score:2)