Apple Fails Due Diligence in Trade Secret Case 236
Brett writes "Despite claims to the contrary, it now appears that Apple didn't do any serious investigation inside the
company before they sued AppleInsider and the PowerPage. This is quite a bit of a problem because Californian law and First Amendment precedent requires Apple check up on itself
before threatening journalists. From the article, "It appears that Apple has adopted a shoot-first, ask questions later approach to dealing with rumors sites. The company took no
depositions, required no oaths from its employees, and failed to subpoena anyone related to the company or the development of the device in question.""
That is re-dick-u-les (Score:5, Interesting)
When the story first broke that apple was sueing rumor sites I withheld judgement, you see I run a review site, I understand the dynamics of the tech industry and the vital role of a journalist, I also understand the letters NDA, and what they mean to a company, and what they mean to me when I sign one. I do feel that as a journalist I have protections given to me by the US constitution protecting me and everyone for that matter from persecution and prosocution as a result of what I write.
That being said it also needs to be aknowlaged that there have to be some checks and balances in the system that allow companies to protect information that if released early could damage the company. We need to recognize that we do have great freedoms and powers in the press but that we need to make sure we use those powers and freedoms responsibly, for example not outing a CIA agent that isn't doing anything more then her job, that isn't say stealing from the Repbulican National Convention headquarters, but is making our country a safer place. You know that thing we refer to as common sense.
We as a society also need to infer and compel in to people that when they make a resonable agreement with someone be it a company or other individual or institution, they need to be held to that agreement, meaning if employee's of apple did disclose information about an upcomming product and had signed an NDA, and the upcomming product was not part of a large and publicly damaging scandal they had no right to reveal that information to a third party, and thusly the third party doesn't have the right (even under freedom of the press / speech) to reveal that information to the public.
Re:That's what makes Apple different from Microsof (Score:2, Interesting)
What the hell part of this was meant to make sense?
Apple suddenly can have their software pirated due to the result of a legal case in a completely different arena of the law?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Indeed what on earth was the grand parent talking about?
Granted the OS is pretty, but we're comparing ancient to modern, compare Vista to Leopard (or whatever it will be called) for a fair comparison.
Compare Apple's Office products to MS', who makes the better software?
Actually it isn't that surprising (Score:2, Interesting)
Instead ask the "journalist" himself.
Again, Apple SHOULD have done checks at home, just to be on the safe side of law at least.
Innovation doesnt mean you can walk over people (Score:2, Interesting)
History is full of great but evil inventors. For example, the inventor of the process that enables nitrgen rich fertilizers which saves countless lives also designed and took pleasure in designing German poison gas weapons.
I am not comparing Apple to that in any remote sense, but I am making the point that just because someone brings forth innovation to the world doesnt mean they get a free pass trampling rights.
It was all about Intel-switch! (Score:1, Interesting)
Think about what it would have done with PPC-Mac sales, if rumors about Intel had been wild long before WWDC... No-one would have bought PPC-machine, if there were rumors that Intel-switch was coming this summer.
Oh, and that Apple employee called "As Seen On TV" here at
And don't get me started to point out that Apple prolly leaked the Intel-info to WSJ and Cnet, so that Steve could show that "It's True"-slide in his presentation...
Think about that. Think different, indeed.
Re:Queue Apple Apologists in 3... 2... (Score:5, Interesting)
Yes, some of this guys are control freaks, DRM-lovers, RIAA-bitches, that are no different than MS/SCO/SUN troops.
What IS different is the organizational culture of Apple and other companies. I believe it is better than Microsoft's, Sun's and, definitely, SCO's. That I like, and because of it Apple is capable of making great products not only because they want big profits but for the sake of doing things right.
Sometimes it seems that they are forced to do "Good Things", or that their intentions are not 'pure', like some interactions with the OS community.
But look at their DRM strategy compared to M$. They looked at things from the user's perspective and tried to change the views of the RIAA to match the 'reality' of us. I don't think this was only motivated by profit but because Apple 'thinks different' than M$.
As for the case at hand: I don't think Apple should be suing those websites. They should plug their leaks.
Re:That's what makes Apple different from Microsof (Score:3, Interesting)
And to be honest, the amounts of money being demanded for use of the trademark (in Australia) are small change to the companies involved.
Would you like to see Micro$oft release a software product called Linux, just because Linus didn't retain the trademark on his own product?
Re:That is re-dick-u-les (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:That's what makes Apple different from Microsof (Score:5, Interesting)
http://www.ilaw.com.au/linuxfaq.html/ [ilaw.com.au] explains it a bit.
It seems like Linus (or his lawyers rather) want to protect the Linux trademark. Hypthetically speaking, if I had a product titled Lunix Utilities, I wouldn't seem to fall under that trademark use. However, if my company or product name was MikeRoweSoft [cnn.com] or Lindows [internetnews.com], Microsoft could and would sue me.
*Shrug* It's a pretty hairy issue. I see where Linus or his lawyers are coming from, but I wonder why the demand in monetary payment in order to ensure their trademark isn't abused.
Re:That is re-dick-u-les (Score:2, Interesting)
I run a review site, I understand the dynamics of the tech industry and the vital role of a journalist
You certainly do. It's spelt "suing", not "sueing"; "prosecution", not "prosocution"; "acknowledged", not "aknowlaged"; "Republican", not "Repbulican"; "reasonable", not "resonable"; and "upcoming", not "upcomming". Also, proper nouns tend to start with a capital letter, and apostrophes aren't used for plurals. You need more commas too.
I don't usually play spelling/grammar nazi, but your spelling and grammar was so ridiculously bad that I seriously wondered whether you were drunk when you wrote it.
Re:Queue Apple Apologists in 3... 2... (Score:2, Interesting)
A friend of mine interviewed for some iPod special projects group at Apple. When asking for specifics about the position, he was told that he shouldn't care what he was working on as long as it was for Apple.
Another person was excused from his interview when he answered the question "Give an example of when you changed your values for an employer" with "I wouldn't do that."
If true, Apple sounds like a great company to work for.
Re:Wait...are you serious? (Score:3, Interesting)
Follow the link for some history and yes you will find support for the claim.
Subject to the plaintiff's action (Score:2, Interesting)
Sitting in a different jurisdiction, knowing little about U.S. law, I find myself asking: So all it takes for a U.S. corporation to compel a journalist (or anybody else) to reveal his source is that they conduct an internal investigation?
I understand we are talking about the First Amendment here, about fundamental civil rights. You should be able to talk to the press and trust them not to reveal their source unless some action of your own allows them to. If the law won't respect your anonymity, you should know so beforehand and not talk at all. But here your right to anonymity is appearantly dependent on a procedural matter of fact that can be established only after you have talked to the press, and it's the plaintiff alone that gets to decide whether that investigation will happen.
Imagine being denied your Fifth Amendment right not to testify against yourself merely because the plaintiff has acted with due diligence and performed the (hypothetically) required tap-dance-on-a-harpsicorde in the courtroom. It's not like Apple must obtain someone's permission to conduct an internal investigation, right?
Devils advocate... (Score:2, Interesting)
My guess is they did it to scare the people who were leaking, just to prove that they CAN do something, without actually DOING something.
But then again, I'm just speculating.
Corporation vs Government diligence (Score:1, Interesting)
Knowledgable, means, specific knowledge, not an opinion, thanks. I already have one of those.
You can! Apple tells you how! (Score:3, Interesting)
Turn their old "RIP MIX BURN" ad campaign on its head.
MIX the songs into a playlist about 70 minutes long.
BURN them to CD.
RIP them to MP3.
In some cases there MAY be a detectable loss of quality from the re-encoding, but if you cared about quality you'd have bought the original CD instead of the lossy-compressed online versions anyway.