Canada To Introduce Copyright Law Next Week 249
P Starrson writes "A leading Canadian television network is reporting
that the Canadian government will introduce copyright legislation next
week that will bring DMCA-like provisions north of the border.
Amazingly, the Canadian recording industry, which previously praised
the reforms, now says they aren't good enough. Canadian law prof Michael Geist cuts through the
spin in the pair of blog postings titled Fact and Fiction
and CRIA's New Take
on Copyright Reform."
No Surprise (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:No Surprise (Score:5, Interesting)
Don't be so sure it will pass.
Canada has a minority government right now; at least two parties need to go for it, or it's dead.
(Yes, we have more than two parties --- it's a democracy! :P )
Re:No Surprise (Score:2)
While I see a lot of stuff getting blamed on Bush, he has to get things through congress and the house as well (I think, I know only a small amount about the US system with their three branchs)
So sometimes I think that the US system is more democratic in that respect.
Re:No Surprise (Score:3, Informative)
In practice, however, the House of Commons is the dominant chamber of Parliament, with the Senate very rarely exercising its powers in a manner that opposes the will of the democratically elected chamber. The last major bill defeated in the Senate came in 1991, when a bill passed by the Commons restricting abortion was rejected in the Upper House by a tied vote.
So the Canadian senate is just a reason for us to pa
Re:No Surprise (Score:2)
Re:No Surprise (Score:2)
And most of the time they don't even have to show up. I seem to recall something in the news a few years ago about someone getting paid for the full year and only showing up for 49 days. (I think they ended up kicking him out once that little fact came to light..)
Re:No Surprise (Score:2)
Oh, it's way over $100,000.
Other than that you have about summed it up.
Re:No Surprise (Score:3, Informative)
Senators are entitled to prefix "The Honourable" to their names for life. The annual salary of each senator, as of 2005, is $119,100; members may receive additional salaries in right of other offices they hold (for instance, the Speakership). Senators rank immediately above Members of Parliament in the order of precedence.
Re:No Surprise (Score:2, Informative)
A vote against this bill is a vote against the big media companies...and while we have made significant strides [mapleleafweb.com] in reforming our campaign funding laws up here, lobbyists still have a disproportionate amount of clout with the major political parties in Ottawa.
Re:No Surprise (Score:3, Informative)
Canada still has more choice overall, having 3 [Liberals, Conservatives, NDP] (or 4 in Québec [Bloc]) major political parties. All of these parties hold significant political clout in the current minority government.
What the grandparent was likely saying is that as the in some districts Democrats and Republicans dif
Re:Intergalactic copyright battle (Score:2)
It's only funny becuase it's true.
So what happened? (Score:4, Insightful)
Drat. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Drat. (Score:3, Informative)
I'm thinking about applying for Sealand [sealandgov.com] citizenship, myself...
^_^
Re:Drat. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Drat. (Score:2)
Typical inflammatory response (Score:3, Insightful)
The US got quite a few of its brighter people back when Carter forgave the many who draft-dodged to Canada.
It's not "crying and running away" to leave a country where 52% of the country voted for someone who stands against the environment, social change and encouraging peaceful, FAIR trade. The only crying anyone does is when their house is ransacked by the FBI without a warrant and family members are trucked to Guantanamo Bay to rot without a fair trial.
When the majority of your c
Re:Typical inflammatory response (Score:2)
1) I doubt this is true. Does the US really hold values entirely in opposition to yours?
2) Abolitionists risked their lives for their beliefs in a country founded on slavery. You call them "idiots" and "the saddest ignorants". I call them heroes.
Re:Typical inflammatory response (Score:2)
The majority (52%) of the US holds enough values in opposition to mine that I have completely changed my path in order to keep from living there.
Re:Drat. (Score:2)
Re:Drat. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Drat. (Score:2)
Maybe it's cheaper to get into New Zealand. that seems to be where everyyone is going anyway.
I'm thinking "bad plan". (Score:2)
Mexico? Isn't that a tad to far over towards the "complete anarchy" side of the problem? On this side of the border you'll get your door kicked in one day for downloading an mp3 which I understand is not so good but on that side of the border the police chief lasts all of one day. I'm in Texas too and I'm staying put.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/32
A fine point on it (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Drat. (Score:2)
this will pass without anyone noticing (Score:3, Insightful)
They'll only be talking [milkandcookies.com] about gay marriage in the news, a bill that is also scheduled to pass before summer break.
Re:this will pass without anyone noticing (Score:2)
It will be rather unfortunate if it is used to cover up the Destruction of Canadians rights to Fair Use
Canadians and their laws and taxes... (Score:5, Insightful)
You think that media tax will go away despite becoming superfluous?
Re:Canadians and their laws and taxes... (Score:2, Informative)
We have high taxes on blank media (1 euro for a blank DVD) to compensate copyright owners but at the same time the local RIAA (IFPI) equivalent is crying wolf. We even had idiotic local high profile musicians that insisted that blank media are sold for the same price as an audio cd to discourages copying.
Your right to make a home copy ? How when they are stuffing everything with DRM so that the consumer can't make use of that right.
And yes that also mean tha
Re:End a tax? In Canada? BWAHAHAHA!!!!!!! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:End a tax? In Canada? BWAHAHAHA!!!!!!! (Score:2)
Ooh, that sucks. (Score:3, Funny)
Don't feel bad, we have DMCA, the Bush Administration, and The Bachelor, three things so bad that most of the time we feel the need to heavily drink.
Better luck next time.
Re:Ooh, that sucks. (Score:3, Funny)
You've also got American beer. So that's FOUR reasons your country sucks.
Re:Ooh, that sucks. (Score:2)
But don't worry my American friends! You too can soak in the corrupt power of Jean Chretien & Paul Martin(and their friends). A police service(CSIS) which over-rides all codes in canadian law, and
Did I mention that watching anything on a satellite dish(American and other foreign dishes are also illegal) or cable TV except what's been aproved by t
Re:Ooh, that sucks. (Score:2)
Aren't we also supposed to think the French are silly or something like that?
and...? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:and...? (Score:2)
don't they already have one?
Yeah , but they hadn't introduced it anywhere. (Ouch)
Greetings Canada! (Score:3, Funny)
Time to use that stationery you got for christmas (Score:5, Informative)
Input your postal code
Write letter (no postage necessary)
Re:Time to use that stationery you got for christm (Score:2)
Re:Time to use that stationery you got for christm (Score:4, Interesting)
Subject: Copying levy versus the proposed copyright bill
I'm writing again about proposed changes in copyright law,
strongly urged by our American neighbors and the record
publishing industry.
I was pleased to hear your opinion on the US-like
misuse of protection measures, and wonder if we're
going to follow our previous policy of using copying levies
instead of prohibitions on copying CDs we legally
own.
The record industry seems to confuse this with
indiscriminate file sharing, and is urging amendments
that would make innocent copiers as liable as persons
who illegally publish other's works on the internet.
I urge you to support our successful policy of
copying levies on CDs, DVDs and extend the
levies to removable disks ("pen drives") and other
iPod-like devices), instead of reducing the
consumer's right to copy their own property under
the copyright act.
--dave
Re:Time to use that stationery you got for christm (Score:2)
In the Alphabetical listing page [parl.gc.ca], they list some members of parliament as being "Honourable" (Hon.) and others as not. I didn't realize that they (a) drew a distinction nor that (b) there is such a distinction to be drawn.
Re:Time to use that stationery you got for christm (Score:2)
"Honourable" simply means you have served as a MP before (so the people listed have been simply re-elected).
"Right Honourable" is reserved for the current and former Prime Ministers.
People who serve on Cabinet positions or who chair committee's have more say and power, but these things do not show up as a title.
Medevo
Re:Time to use that stationery you got for christm (Score:2)
For those who are wondering, the "Honourable" style [wikipedia.org] comes with becoming a Privy Councillor [wikipedia.org], which in turn is bestowed on members of Cabinet (among others). In reality, members of Cabinet are often no more honourable than their backbench colleagues. :-)
Re:Time to use that stationery you got for christm (Score:3, Interesting)
Dear Mr. Big-Politics-Guy
I really like getting stuff for free. Can we please keep doing that?
How about:
"Dear Mr. Big-Politics-Guy
I really like getting to speak and act freely. Can we please keep doing that?"
I don't care about "free music". I wish all the file sharers would get caught, so we can focus on the real issue: free speech.
Copyright monopolies take away my right to create a related product, just because I didn't invent the first model. They stiffle innovation as much
How do we protest? (Score:5, Insightful)
I want to know about:
a) What party(s) oppose this legislation?
b) What formal protest groups exist to thwart this? Are any activities planned?
I haven't protested since university, but I would make an appearance in a rally for this. I will make donations to well organised groups opposing this legislation.
Its best to defeat the law before it gets into law, fortunately we have 3 readings to defeat it.
Re:How do we protest? (Score:2, Interesting)
It's best to just drink beer and let your criminal Prime Minister steal money from you while passing laws that are hopless to enforce yet generate tons of paper as a justification to raise your taxes.
Seriously, you can't call what we have here a government.
There is so much corruption and boondoggles, that the average Canadian just does not care about politics anymore, cause they know that any protest falls on deaf ears and the government will continue to do whatever i
And that differs from the rest of the world how? (Score:2)
Partially, of course, cos if it did so it'd get ground under by bigger, more pragmatic neighbours.
Re:How do we protest? (Score:2)
Ignore it. (Score:2)
Re:How do we protest? (Score:2)
Write your MP. We have a system, and the system doesn't work because no one uses it. Write your MP and tell them that you don't like this, and etc. etc. Write your MP, because they're the ones that are going
Sample letter: (Score:3)
I'm tired of voting for people who are supposed to be my representative in the House of Commons, yet end up doing whatever the fuck they please.
Therefore, you will do as I say, or I will come by your house (which, in fact, is mine, as my taxes likely paid for a good portion of the bloody thing) and proceed to kick your dog, set fire to your mailbox, and generally dispense great misery unto you and yours.
Sincerely,
Someone who's tired of self serving, tow the party line, weenie politicians.
Re:Sample letter: (Score:2)
Toe. Toe the party line. As in "Toe the line, you grunts!"
Someone who tows the party line is a leader, making changes.
Re:How do we protest? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:How do we protest? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:How do we protest? (Score:2)
I'll write my MP, but he's riding on the Liberals reputation and doesn't represent his riding's interests very well. I don't expect alot, but its a start.
Big fat hairy deal (Score:3, Insightful)
(1) Coerce/buy anti-copying/downloading/sharing rules from the government
(2) Consumers will be forced to buy your product
(3) Profit!
Well, as DCMA and lawsuits hasn't stopped filesharing in the US, I suspect that any provisions trying to stop it in Canada will have about the same effect. Better and new anonymous methods of downloading will come, and on and on it will go. However, even if they did succeed in stopping sharing etc, the result would more likely be:
(1) Tougher laws brought in
(2) Public apathy towards the industry products continues including lack of sales, save the odd star wars type blockbuster (music will always exist, but the days of the mega-star is over)
(3) Continued financial decline and disinterest!
The media industries will cry foul over the latest downloading tactic etc, while the public at large continues to not care.
If you think about it, outside of forums like these, the general public hasn't cared about these issues since the napster days. I don't see that changing.
Not all that bad (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Not all that bad (Score:5, Informative)
My MP ignored this so far since March 25 (Score:5, Informative)
DMCA for Canada
Please write your MP on this matter. Use my letter below if you don't want to write your own.
Send your letter for free (no postage necessary when parliament is in session), to your MP at the following address:
[your MP's name] M.P.
House of Commons
Ottawa ON K1A 0A6
Find their email address, but write by paper mail too. http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/about/people/ho
Dear Mr. Breitkreuz
To summarize the issues in this letter:
1. Internet Service Providers should not be required to keep extensive logs of private and legal online communications.
2. The government must not stop Canadian citizens from making personal-use copies of their legally purchased software, music, and movie media.
Background:
http://pch.gc.ca/progs/ac-ca/progs/pda-cpb/reform
Here is the reasoning:
The purpose of the Copyright Act is to support creativity and innovation in the arts and culture. To design a new Act on the failed and draconian Digital Millenium Copyright Act of the United States of America, would be a disaster for Canadian culture, and innovation. Also our court system could become clogged with law abiding citizens who make personal use copies of their music, software, and movie collections for no personal financial gain. An implementation of the proposed changes to the Copyright Act would unleash another "Gun Registry boondoggle" onto the Canadian people - creating criminals out of law abiding citizens at the expense of Canadian taxpayers.
Internet Service Providers like Sasktel should not be made to keep extensive client usage logs for possible future prosecution by various copyright-based industries. I don't want to pay for that system to be put into effect, and I don't think most people do. The phone companies are not forced by the government to record the content of phone conversations, only police can do that with a proper warrant. ISP logs are going to be equivalent to phone-taps, and that's a violation of my privacy. It's doing the job of the police, and is for the sole benefit of an industry basing its profits on an outdated business model that is no longer realistic for the Canadian government to protect.
It is completely unfair to be paying a levy to artists organizations for purchasing blank CD media to make home-use private copies of legal CD music, and now to also be unable to legally copy the music I've paid for off of Digital Rights Managed CDs. If copying CD music is going to be illegal, why is the government collecting money from the product for an illegal activity? I'm satisfied that the current levy is helping to compensate artists from illegitimate copying, and no new law is required to prevent me and other people from making sensible backups of our legal music, software, and movie collections.
Your representation in the House of Commons on this matter is greatly appreciated by me, and other supporters of personal liberty and innovation in the arts. I look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,
my name
Re:My MP ignored this so far since March 25 (Score:2)
Fair Use Alive and Well (Score:5, Interesting)
I pay for the RIGHT to copy what ever the fuck I want on to whatever media I've been taxed on.
That IS my RIGHT and I could give a shit how many hairs they split. Sharing MY music with my GLOBAL friends is NO different then sahring with my friends down the street. The fact that they claim a physical product must change hands to be considered legitimate sharing is just splitting legal hairs. IMFO
And according to these same laws, every school in Canada should be charged under the same act they want to charge file sharers with whenever they play "records" at their school dances! Oh yeah... get your check books out kids! No more sock hops! Fuckin' idiots!
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/sc_mrksv/cipo/cp/copy_g
Examples of infringement
Infringement:
- reprinting an article without the copyright owner's permission;
- playing records at a dance without the copyright owners' permission;
- giving a public performance of a play without permission;
- photocopying articles for a class of students without permission; and
- taping your favourite band at a music concert without permission.
Not infringement:
- quoting a few lines of the article in a research paper (fair dealing);
- playing records at home;
- giving a public performance of a play by Shakespeare (no copyright exists/public domain);
- obtaining permission from the author and paying a fee to him or her (if requested) in order to use an article; and
- borrowing a musical tape from a friend to copy onto a blank tape for private use (a royalty payment to the owner of the song rights has been paid when the blank tape was purchased).
So FUCK THEM and my Karma! It shows how far behind these folks are... they still refer to music on tapes!
Re:Fair Use Alive and Well (Score:2)
Anything you pay for is not a "right", it's a privilege.
That said, was that last section in boldface (copying your friend's tape) part of your current Copyright Law?
Re:Fair Use Alive and Well (Score:3, Informative)
80. (1) Subject to subsection (2), the act of reproducing all or any substantial part of
(a) a musical work embodied in a sound recording,
(b) a performer's performance of a musical work embodied in a sound recording, or
(c) a sound recording in which a musical work, or a performer's performance of a musical work, is embodied
onto an audio recor
Re:Fair Use Alive and Well (Score:2)
Very nice Fair Use you have up there. I trust you'll get to keep it after your government gets through reading this new bill a time or two.
A time for civil disobedience? (Score:2)
Why not push it all the way? (Score:2)
They should be happy with that.
*)But they can't act on any if it.
**) Now you know who to call when something's broken. (They get Spammers through copyright violation. Its THEIR 'Niagra' name and THEY can't use it.)
RTFA, people (Score:5, Informative)
Writing to your MP is a good thing at this point. But let me explain something about Canadian politics: just because a bill gets introduced to parliament does not mean that it actually passes into law. More than that, Parliament breaks up for the summer and any bills that are still on the dock at breakup usually end up getting forgotten for a while when Parliament returns to session and has to deal with important stuff again. On more than one occasion in the past, bills have been forgotten completely and never revisited after the summer break.
No, I'm not worried. I'm interested in the outcome because I run a website which has been the target of CRIA's advances before, but even if they're ever able to launch a lawsuit, there's absolutely no way they'd win the way the laws currently stand. Even under the US laws they wouldn't win....
Re:RTFA, people (Score:3, Informative)
I doubt they're going to forget about it over the summer.
Relax - It won't pass (Score:2, Informative)
When the writ is dropped and the house dissolves for an election, all bills die on the order paper.
It's not particularly likely that a new bill--particularly a contentious new bill--will make it through thrid reading in the house and thr
My only complaint (Score:3, Interesting)
That's the most offensive portion.
If they're going to make it illegal to share files, they have to repeal those blank media taxes.
Re:My only complaint (Score:2)
--copying DVD files to Linux machine will be OK
--playing back on windows machine with PowerDVD will be OK
--playing back on Linux machine with open-source software will be illegal
Around 25% (Score:2)
Around 25% (7 million of 30 million) Canadians regularly use file sharing networks. I don't think this legislation will pass 3 readings. There's a minority government in charge right now, and it wouldn't take much to knock them out if this bill fails. I'm quite surprised that they're even willing to take a chance on this one at this point in time. During Chretien's time, there'd be no problem. Now it's a little bit tougher.
Re:Around 25% (Score:2)
Call your MP today. Don't just write. Call. (Score:4, Interesting)
Use http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/about/people/ho
Be polite, be courteous, but be firm. State, be it via voice mail or directly, that you are in opposition to the upcoming copyright legislation, and hope that your MP will vote in opposition to it.
(Whatever you do, don't state that "Although I didn't vote for your party...").
Indicate to them whether or not this is an issue your future vote will hinge on; that will get their attention, guaranteed.
Can't have it both ways... (Score:4, Insightful)
When it first came out I thought it was wrong, but the government caved to pressure (presumably from the recording industry). Basically if you by CD-R's or writable DVD's you pay a 'media tax' on top of the purchace price (it is included in the price you see, they used to break it down for the consumer). However this is a very stupid tax as the limits are retaded (tax size is based up media storage capacity!), as this also includes things like ipods, and the like. Are CD players, nope. Is general memory, nope. But if a device is basically a big memory stick or HD that plays music, it is taxed. The real evil part of this tax is that it ASSUMES that everyone is a Buccaneer (Yar!). You could buy CD-R's for nothing more than stright data, yet you would be paying a media tax as they assume that they will be used to copy music or something. I am not sure about USB drives, but it would not surprise me if they are taxed as well. Very evil stuff considering out legal system and the whole innocent before proven guilty etc...
In a slightly unrealted note, this errosion has been happing in Canada for sometime now, under the guise or reasoning that the courts cannot handle the volume. Or that it is too expensive to try every case. An example of this is giving the powers to cities to write parking tickets, which most use maninly as a revune stream (not its intention I don't think). I got a parking ticket in Ottawa about a year ago (not where I live). The short version of the story is: I was never issued a ticket! I get a letter in the mail, saying I owe 40$ for parking tickets. I call the city and try to explain to the the issue, they do not care. Their response is that if I had a problem with it I COULD fight it in court. However, I would have to drive 250km on a work day in the middle of the week at least once, at the cost of at least 400$. Or I could pay the ticket. They warn me if I do not I will not be able to register my car when it comes up. So I can pay 400$ and fight it, or just pay the (and therefore pleading guilty of the offence) ticket of 40$. I paid the ticket, even though it was wrong. Most definitions I read would say this is stright up extortion, but whatever. Just thinking about this whole affair again boils my balls. Anyway enough of this rant. Back to regular programming.
Civil liberities aside what is really interesting is the recording industry cannot have it both ways. If legislation is passed making downloading and copying music illegal, then they cannot justify having a "media tax" anymore as I see it. You cannot tax an illegal activity (as that legitimizes it). Thats like making the crack dealer, pay tax (or even more funny in Canada, making his crackheads pay GST on their spank). Why not just tax murder while your at it, 10$ a head I say! However once a tax is in place it is VERY hard to get rid of it (GST anyone!), I bet you anything they will what to have both worlds.
Another of my favorite examples of this lunacy is I once heard a story about a Canadian that got caught selling cocain in Vietnam. The government there, sentanced her to death by firing squad, AND fined her 100,000$. The big joke eveyone was saying was "if I were her, I wouldn't pay the fine". The only differenace here is in Canada, IF they keep both the tax and pass the coyright bill it will be like eveytime you buy media, they convict you, and fine you, and if someday that ACTUALLY catch you doing it, they will try to convict you and fine and/or jail you. So in esasnce its like Canadians paying a mandatory tax on cocain, then if they are caught, fined. So in this case you cannot help but pay.
Anyway my rant is now very long and makes little sense even to me anymore. I am not sure why I picked all the drug referances, only that they are illegal.
Anyway thats my 2 cents (or twenty bucks as the case may be)
Re:Can't have it both ways... (Score:2)
Re:Can't have it both ways... (Score:2)
Ugh, this is so frustrating... (Score:3, Insightful)
Grrr...
Re:Ugh, this is so frustrating... (Score:2)
This isn't insightful at all, it's backwards. The way copyright and patent law encourages inno
Radio? (Score:2, Interesting)
Nothing is good enough for the content industry (Score:5, Insightful)
Heck, even DJs would be obligated to pay, as they shouldn't be allowed to hear the music for free.
And double heck, anyone listening to you humming would be obligated to pay too.
Why The CRIA Suddenly Wants More (Score:2, Interesting)
When the CRIA first started pushing for copyright reform and DMCA-like provisions, Brian Robertson was at the helm. However, Brian left about a year ago, and Graham left his VP job at Universal to take over.
I've known Graham casually since his Universal days, and since he became head of the CRIA I've heard him speak a few times...and let me tell you, he's crazy. Graham's main points are usually:
- the CD is still the
stereotype (Score:2, Insightful)
As if it's just kids that do it.
Here's my letter to my MP (Score:2, Informative)
I am deeply concerned about the copyright legislation your government intends to introduce. It's all over the Internet. I find it interesting that the international community is also discussing the consequences of this Canadian bill. Please see this link, for a thorough discussion:
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/09/12 3234&tid=123&tid=141&tid=97&tid=155 [slashdot.org]
As far as most voting individuals are concerned, the entire entertainment industry (especially the movie a
Re:Canadian Recording Industry, eh? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Canadian Recording Industry, eh? (Score:2)
Avril Lavigne
(Too women who, BTW, I would also love to 'protect')
Re:Canadian Recording Industry, eh? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Cha-ching. (Score:2)
Re:So what can Canadians do? (Score:2, Insightful)
Let them know that not only is this a big issue for you, but that the person they're campaigning against also knows it.
CC'ing the heritage minister is a good idea as well.
Re:So what can Canadians do? (Score:2)
Re:So what can Canadians do? (Score:2)
Re:So what can Canadians do? (Score:2)
If enough of us do it, the message will get through.
DG
Re:Your getting what you deserve. (Score:2, Funny)
Main Entry: sar-chasm
Function: noun
Etymology: Canadian, mainly the Second City cuicuit
Definition: A state of being where someone has used so much sarcasm for such an extended period of time, they can now only talk in a sarcastic mode. Ex: "I've fallen into a sarchasm, and I can't get up!"
Plural: sarchasii
Related words: sar-cough-agus
Re:How is AdScam going up north? (Score:2)
Say what you want about the American court system but that situation's just bullshit!
Re:new legislation rules (Score:2)
>make it illegal to hack or break into the
>digital locks often used to prevent the copying
>of movies and software...
How more precisely is the law worded? Is it ineede "prevent the copying"? Or is it like for example in US were it is more "prevent the access"? Huge difference. Because many of those protection schemes out there are not about copying at all but about accessing the content. You can usually copy it perfectly (for example if it is encrypted) yet have problem acceessing
Re:new legislation rules (Score:2)
Re:the laws need reform (Score:3, Informative)
But granting that this --really-- happened.
You face a lot bigger problems than p2p. Walmart sells the same CD's that you do at a fraction of the cost and your big buddies give walmart a better price break than they do you. The price walmart charges for CD's is below the price you PAY wholesale for your CD's.
Then there is amazon and other similar services. I buy most of my dvd's and crap like that online now. The p
Re:the laws need reform (Score:3, Interesting)
And then you guys started hawking hair metal bands, boy bands, crappy Christian rock (have you actually listend to that garbage), teeny-bopper singers who prob
Re:Not ,my country (Score:2)
Minority cultures have the most to lose when the majority culture is free for the taking.