IBM Smart Card OS On A 1MB Smart Card 128
michaelpapet.com writes "IBM has ported/developed their Javacard smart card operating system for Sharp's 1MB smart card. Read Sharp's announcement here.
Interesting features include: AES encryption; elliptical curve encryption; and 1MB of storage.
Sharp's smart card package claims to be almost as small as a normal smart card package. In an industry that can considers 64K of memory a luxury, 1MB is staggering. Read Sharp's original 1MB smart card announcement here. Is this a 'Build it and they will come...' kind of solution? How small is an 'almost as small' smart card IC package?"
Re:Please don't do it (Score:1, Funny)
64k should be enough for anyone!
there i didn't make a 640k is all you'll ever need joke... oh wait does that count?
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Dude. That would be awesome!
Then I could run Linux on Java on Linux on Java on Linux on Java on Linux on Java on Linux on Java ...
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little zany without an MMU, of course...
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actually, linux runs just fine without an MMU - see uclinux [uclinux.org]
There doesn't seem to be a 2.6 version (only 2.4), but then I'm not sure if 2.6 hasn't had uclinux merged in. (a quick look at the config says no)
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Hehe
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Storage space (Score:2, Insightful)
Wow, 1MB of storage available on 1MB media, so that's like 0MB for the OS?
Also, why not start with a larger media? most digital cameras start at at least 16 MB. Something more than 1MB doesn't seem too unreasonable.
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Functionality is added to the card by securely loading JavaCard applets to the 1MB of storage. More info on JCOP can be found here. [ibm.com]
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WHY are there no apps for smartcards out there then?
I want to store basic important information on one. is there an app I can use? no.
Is ther anything shoret of the overpriced enterprise 60,000 user license stuff available? no.
smartcards are 100% useless to 90% of the planet.
so WHY is there no consumer apps available for these things??
I want to protect my passwords and other information.
it seems that you guys do not want me to do this.
at least in windows..... the funny
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Having written an applet loader I can tell you that it has nothing to do with what you are describing.
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That would stop accidental key conflicts. Not a very good solution, but better than nothing.
Correction (Score:2)
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Why not? If Global Platform worked as advertised, and if the JVM really is as secure as Multos, then what woud the bank care if you had some game high score, web passwords or personal data applet on your Visa card? Surely it would be a good way to cut churn: you wouldn't want to switch Visa cards if you had to re-enter all of your web passwords.
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http://www.linuxnet.com/smartcard/index.html
cheers
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Heck, a lot of the stuff that gets posted here I've already heard of... but a year late? We can all do better...
redudancy alert (Score:5, Funny)
Titanium Card (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Titanium Card (Score:2)
Picture of the card and tech specs (Score:3, Interesting)
Security anybody? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Security anybody? (Score:1)
And besides, if you're close enough to use a short range antenna (very short range, I'm guessing), you're close enough to mug 'em. Perhaps not as clean, and much more noticible, but a heck of a lot easier.
Re:Security anybody? (Score:2)
More information on TEMPEST [eskimo.com] than you'd probably want to know.
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Just run seti@home^H^H^H^Hcard on it during idle times and you'll mask the power consumption!
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Virtual Machine? (Score:3, Insightful)
Do I have to plug it in and then wait 45 seconds for the java virtual machine to load before it lets me do anything?
Also, now that it has java, does that mean I can run Project Looking Glass?
What is this good for? (Score:5, Insightful)
Why? Because you the user can not know if the computer you are typing on is safe ( think spyware, malware etc... ) .
Current smartcard technology has been problimatic because you can only store tiny amounts of data on them. By tiny I mean really small, shorter than a few SMS (text based cellphone) message amount of data. ( dont forget the file allocation table takes up space...)
You also dont really store data on them, they store data for you. Smart cards are basically little computers, that will only respond with the correct password to give you your data. Pretty clever really.
Now it looks like they will be able to store much more data, like a couple 1024 bit keys, your encrypted passwords and lots of other great stuff like that.
That is what it could be used for... but I am sure everyone is going to buy them because they can save their IE Favorites, and their Email Address book on it.
Re:What is this good for? (Score:3, Interesting)
If it wasn't "smart", an outside system would have to have access to the real data to compare against the finger or password attempt.
Re:What is this good for? (Score:2)
Unless the reader is trustable and the card it self drive it.
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Here is a link to their Client Software [activcard.com]info page.
I personally would like one of these Fingerprint Scanner + SmartCard reader [activcard.com] My old scanner is getting a little old, and isnt USB.
hint hint :)
The 20 Year Cycle (Score:5, Informative)
20 years ago, Apple was figuring out how to squeeze a graphical operating system into 128K of RAM. Permanent storage that didn't cost 5 figures was in the 400K range.
In this day of multi-gigabyte OS installs, it's refreshing to see people return to the "lean and mean" OS mentality, even if it's out of necessity. Hell, even 10 years ago, you could still install an entire installation of Mac OS 7.6 on a set of 10-12 floppies.
Those were the days. Nice to see such "hack"ish talent used again.
Re:The 20 Year Cycle (Score:2, Interesting)
-- phasmal
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Just a bunch more Flash (Score:3, Informative)
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Here is the confusion (Score:5, Informative)
A SmartCard is NOT for holding pictures of your cat. It's primarily for identity verification. See
SmartCard [wikipedia.org]
A SmartMedia Card IS for storing pictures of your cat or whatever else you might have. This is the large card that goes in SOME digital cameras. SmartMedia is a trademark of Toshiba. It is a flash memory format Please see
SmartMedia [wikipedia.org]
Re:Here is the confusion (Score:1)
But what if I use it for identity verification of my CAT? What do you think about that, Mr. Smart Guy?!
Wait, I don't own a cat.
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They are most often packaged in the original card form with cuts so you can break out the smaller form factor. Placing them back into the larger card allows them to be used with ISO compliant card readers, which software is available for to allow you to update your phone book, etc.
Java applications are the big new thing with GSM phones (more so the dedicated phones rath
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Intresting thing about javacards. (Score:1, Informative)
Funny thing is if you blast the card with uv radiation (read a black light) you can force the switches in the card (by overloading with excess energy) to flip back and forth and cause the card to allow you to pop out of the sandbox.. =)
Suddenly you have access to the protected ar
Re:Intresting thing about javacards. (Score:1)
Most chip-foundries have the equipment, some security-audit centers also of
More please... (Score:1)
I'd pay a whole bunch for a small 200GB hard drive that I could hang on my keychain. Laptop drives are small, but not quite small enough. I'd put up with their extra size, but I haven't seen any break 80GB.
I'd just like to be able to plug my own hard drive into someone else's computer and have my own OS and files all ready. No smart cards, just smart technology. We sho
elliptic curve, not "elliptical" (Score:2, Interesting)
I'm sure this card incorporates some form of elliptic curve cryptography [wikipedia.org], rather than "elliptical curve encryption", which doesn't mean anything AFAIK.
I guess all of the other mathematicians are watching election coverage rather than pointing out slashdot editing errors...
Re:elliptic curve, not "elliptical" (Score:1)
You think there's a difference in encryption and cryptography?
No. I'm saying that the correct term is "elliptic curve", not "elliptical curve" as it says in the original post.
I can just see it now. (Score:1)
Stupid (Score:2)
Just give me the raw hardware, I'll program that.
Smartcard readers in PCs and laptops? (Score:1)
It would be nice to have PGP and SSH key stored on my ID card
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64K a luxury (Score:1, Redundant)
Surely I am not the only one old enough to remember The Vic-20 with its 5K RAM that greeted you with "3,583 bytes free." (which was left after necessary internal storage and buffers) And if you had an additional $150 you could buy the "luxury" of a 16K RAM Cartridge.
An OS on a 1MB card? (Score:2)
Hmm (Score:1)
1MB (Score:1)
Where the hell can you buy these (Score:1)
:mad:
How small, indeed? (Score:2)