FTC Files Spyware Case Against Sanford Wallace 170
An anonymous reader writes "Legendary reformed spammer Sanford Wallace is apparently back in business, under suspicion by the Feds for advertising a trojan spyware removal tool. Wallace 'admit[s] no wrongdoing', but in the next breath says 'The FTC is trying to enforce a law that hasn't even passed', referring to the proposed anti-spyware legislation currently in Congress."
oh please... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:oh please... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:oh please... (Score:4, Insightful)
Not entirely correct. There is NOTHING wrong with going 60 in a 60 zone, regardless of when the speed limit is going to change. However, EVERYBODY knows that there is something wrong with installing software that interferes with the way your browser functions without telling the user what is being installed. And THEN, getting them to pay $30 to uninstall the software.
Re:oh please... (Score:2, Insightful)
It would seem that Wallace is guilty of fraud when his spyware removal tool is itself spyware.
NO (Score:5, Insightful)
Fuck your analogies. Wallace is still guilty of the 1000-year-old crime of fraud and they're going to nail him for it. New legislation may help further convictions. Film at 11.
Re:NO (Score:2, Funny)
Re:oh please... (Score:2)
Re:oh please... (Score:2)
Just because you weren't speeding doesn't mean that you weren't breaking the law.
Re:oh please... (Score:5, Insightful)
This guy is guilty of fraud.
Re:oh please... (Score:2, Informative)
It's hopeless. They'll always moderate-up daft analogies. It's part of the culture.
Re:oh please... (Score:5, Interesting)
"J" (who in his anger may have been under the mistaken impression that I'm associated with Spy Wiper) intends to sue Spy Wiper. He says that when Spy Wiper opened his CD-ROM drive, it popped his infant in the eye. The infant had to be taken to the emergency room.
Re:oh please... (Score:2)
No, its not the same (Score:3, Insightful)
It may be sleazy, but he is correct that if its not against the law yet.. there is little grounds to harass him on that factor..
Now, on day one of the law being passed, they should pounce..
Against the law. (Score:3, Insightful)
Under California law, Penal Code 502 prevents his from installing unauthorized software.
Remember the guy in Georgia who installed SETI or some other software like that on the University Systems getting charged for doing that since he had no authorization?
The FTC has the power t
Re:No, its not the same (Score:4, Informative)
The FTC alleges the defendants have unfairly: changed consumers' Web browsers, installed advertising and other software programs, and compelled purchase of anti-spyware software.
It looks like its the compulsion he's placed on his customers to buy his products because of his own tampering with their machines that's getting him landed in trouble. (IANAL, etc etc).
Re:No, its not the same (Score:2)
According to the complaint "Section 5(a) of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. 45(a), which prohibits unfair or deceptive acts or practices in or affecting commerce" is where he is afoul of t
Re:oh please... (Score:1, Redundant)
Actually, no, if the law hasn't been passed yet then it's not like being stopped by a cop who's off duty. It's more like a city council trying to get the speed limit on the main road lowered from 45 to 35, and having a cop give you a ticket for going 45 even before the proposal goes through.
Certainly we can debate about the morality of what h
Re:oh please... (Score:1, Funny)
Please, stop with the rediculous analogies.
Re:oh please... (Score:2)
No, it's more like driving dangerously, running over someone's dog, and then complaining that you were doing 55 in a 60 zone that you know is getting a 'School Zone' designation tomorrow.
The charge is dangerous driving, not speeding -- and if you do The same thing tomorrow the cops will have a choice of which law to charge you under.
Re:oh please... (Score:2)
No, you should RTFA, it's more like being pulled over for doing 60mph in a 30mph zone, while smoking a joint and drinking booze, getting nailed for speeding, drug posession, DUI and thrown in jail but then claiming the speed limit was going to change in 2006 to 60mph when they finished the new four lane highway so you shouldn't have been pul
We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him under (Score:5, Insightful)
If you're selling spyware as anti-spyware, that's fraud, genius.
Maybe he's hoping that the public will stand up for poor little him.
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:5, Funny)
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:3, Insightful)
The guy switched the boombox to an FM station and told him to pound sand. As far as I know, he never played a CD in the store again after that.
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:2)
I think the way it's worded works out to be if you simply play a radio or put out a TV for your customers, it's perfectly legal. However, you can't tape record the radio and play it back, or play any other pre-recorded music or videos, without paying compensation to the artists.
The ASCAP guy can claim whatever he likes to frighten you into buying his license. I think the law says (or perhaps the court found) that since the radio station pa
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:2, Informative)
What would you do with $10 Million. Could it be better used for education as these rulings wont cover EULAs nor the 600 North Korea Hackers [slashdot.org].
In America, we would like to think all the world encompass the borders of the US, whereby we can extend
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:2)
I'm always seeing these kind of suggestions. "Why are we spending money to do X when it could be spent on Y". Often the cost of X is a tiny fraction of the cost of Y.
The federal education budget [whitehouse.gov] was $59.5 billion in 2003. Maybe $10 million fighting spyware (which imposes costs on the economy through crime and lost productivity) isn't such a bad deal.
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:2)
Ah. you meant anti-spyware education, not education in general. I see your point now. And I think that it is probably a good thing, given how some Americans seem to think [bbc.co.uk] about security.
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:3, Informative)
What he's doing is installing basic run of the mill spyware that has ads for spyware removal software:
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:2)
It makes a false claim.
Someone relies on the false claim.
Their reliance on the false claim causes them harm.
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:2)
I'm sorry, are you actually comparing an extortion scheme with negotiation? There's a huge difference to the "we'll beat any price" mentality of open competition, than "buy this or else we'll cause you pain" which is exactly what his "offer" provides.
I infect your PC then sell you the tool to remove the infection. I can see how you would confuse that with a company willing to make a deal to keep an existing customer.
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:2)
"Dis is a noice compootah heyah. Be a shame if dese pop-ups keep coming. We can help youse wid dat for a vewy weasonable fee...."
Fraud AND Blackmail (Score:2)
That may be fraud, but it starts with blackmail. I'm sure that these people have also infrected a good number of federal government computers, so we can probably add Computer terrorism to the queue.
(I mean, the law exists... Might as well use it someplace usefull, no?
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:2)
I ask this as a serious question - I don't know whether or not the wire fraud law applies to the Internet.
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:2)
If you're selling spyware as anti-spyware, that's fraud, genius.
I don't think you understand what he's doing. He's infecting people with spyware that advertises his anti-spyware package. In other words, if you pay him, he'll fix the problem he created.
Reminds me of a story in the Chicago Tribune about 10 years back detailing the arrest of some men who were caught walking around in an industrial area shooting out windows with slingshots. They worked for a glass company.
Anyway, Wallace is always go
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:2)
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:2)
I haven't read this article, but if you read a few other articles on the situation, it clearly states that the "anti-spyware" program is in fact spyware itself. i.e. It only makes the problem worse instead of better.
Heh. You're right. So he's working both sides of this from what I can gather. What a slimeball.
Re:We have perfectly good laws to prosecute him un (Score:2)
I wonder if this guy is in charge of that. Good god.
Another article with more (Score:5, Informative)
Carpe diem (Score:5, Funny)
Knock him off (Score:1)
Re:Knock him off (Score:2)
Killing may be going to far, but he's certainly a candidate for a blanket party or having his fingers double-jointed.
[Obligatory disclaimer: I do not advocate doing harm to anyone. All comments are purely a matter of philosophical discussion and enlightenment.]
Re:Knock him off (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Knock him off (Score:2)
What about... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:What about... (Score:5, Funny)
> there's surely something else he can be chared with.
Lighter fluid?
Re:What about... (Score:3, Funny)
chared is something in between caring and charring, kind of like, "I did it because I love you."
Re: (Score:2)
Eek! (Score:5, Funny)
Now this story shows up on
Coincidence?
FRY THE BASTARD!
Re:Eek! (Score:2)
What a nightmare! That part about the alien invasion sounds kinda scary too...
at least now... (Score:1)
spammers are criminals who will stop at nothing to try to make a buck.
they prey upon the ignorance of the general public who gets a pc for home use, joke emails, and maybe for some simple pc games and companionship.
this behavior must be punished more severely or else it will continue to grow.
Re:at least now... (Score:2)
I think the links between spammers and viruses that are now pretty clear-cut have proven this beyond any shadow of a doubt for us already. Spamford's case just proves they're stupid too.
Actually they do some of of that (social engineering) but you have to have trouble feeling sorry f
Anyone have Mr Wallace's address? (Score:2, Funny)
Another reason to use FireFox (Score:3, Insightful)
Mod Parent Down, Re:Another reason to use FireFox (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Mod Parent Down, Re:Another reason to use FireF (Score:1)
Re:Mod Parent Down, Re:Another reason to use FireF (Score:5, Informative)
Is there anything else the entire industry has accepted that you want to suggest is wrong?
Sure I do (Score:5, Interesting)
If you seriously think Firefox is bug free, well you are sticking your head in the sand. The question isn't if Friefox has exploitable bugs, it does, everything does, the question is when one is found, what happens? The OSS community argues that this is where the strength is, it'll be fixed in a big hurry, so consumers don't have to worry.
Well the thing is, receant events are calling that in to doubt. Salshdot has reported on the two big security bugs in the last couple of months that sat unfixed for YEARS, basically until a big public stink was made about it. So it may be that in reality Firefox is LESS safe.
I use it, since I like it better, but if you think that it has some magic OSS shield that protects you, think again.
Also, the vast majority of spyware, including the spyware in the article, gets on through user stupidity, not exploits. This particular software is the popup/banner nature. It tells you to download it. Users do that, and then it's got them. Others provide some feature people want, like comet cursor, that then also spys on people. Still more just piggy back on top of other software, like the loads of shit that comes with Kazaa.
Re:Sure I do (Score:2)
How popular is/was Internet Explorer? The largest resaon so much was found in IE was so much attention was given to IE since it is the largest browser by far, and was even larger in the past. Now, as Firefox is growing, it's being targeted. I've started seeing sties that try to send you a mozilla installer package if you are using Firefox, an ActiveX control if oyu are using IE.
No, the largest reason is that, rather than fix their bugs, they rewrote the renderer and encrusted the browser with features.
Re:Sure I do (Score:2)
Another point is that the shell: exploit was only a bug in MS Windows. The short term response was to disable the shell: protocol (which they were able to do because of changes made in response to the original bug report; update pushed out the day after the proof of concept was published). The longer term response was to turn off OS passing by default. Previously, if a protocol was unknown t
Re:Sure I do (Score:3, Insightful)
Bullshit. If the number of exploits scaled by popularity, why are there more bugs for IIS than for Apache?
Try again.
Re:Sure I do (Score:2)
Gosh, that is hard. Let me think for a while...
Oh, I got it! Because you're lying through your teeth! These pictures are pretty:
http://secunia.com/graph/?type=adv&period=all&prod =73 [secunia.com]
http://secunia.com/graph/?type=adv&period=all&prod =1438 [secunia.com]
Your claim makes as much sense as if I were to say that IE has much worse performance than other browsers because IE 2.0 was slow. Yeah, it's easy to mak
Re:Sure I do (Score:2)
This would be a good place to point out that the responses on /. are consistently "Firefox/Mozilla solves all your problems, switch now!" when a new IE exploit is ann
Cert doesn't list Mozilla bugs (Score:2)
The CERT Coordination Center has received reports of a vulnerability in implementations of the Java Applet Security Manager. This vulnerability is present in the Netscape Navigator 2.0 Java implementation and in Release 1.0 of the Java Developer's Kit from Sun Microsystems, Inc. These implementations do not correctly implement the policy that an applet may connect only to the host from which
Re:Another reason to use FireFox (Score:2)
I have seen at least 2 the past week informing me that my computer was infected with adaware.
I believe this guy is probably the author of the applet and YES ITS FRAUD!
I hope lavasoft sues his ass too.
Re:Another reason to use FireFox (Score:2)
I was quite suprised to see that various "helper" applications (that some classify as spyware) actually modify the user agent string to indicate to websites that they are installed.
Choice favorites were:
Re:Bullshit (Score:2)
Are you guys posting from Redmond?
Re:Bullshit (Score:2)
1. IE has been around much longer
2. IE
I'm not on his side, but (Score:4, Insightful)
The reality of the situation is, under the alleged crime(s) he committed, he has yet to be convicted. As such, he is entitled to be treated justly and without contempt, at least WRT the current situation.
As for his claim that there's no wrong-doing on his part, while then saying that the law hasn't yet passed - this is not a contradiction, at all, as the /. submitter implies. Until those things are made illegal, they are still legal and thus not "wrong," in the eyes of the law. That does of course fall to the ground in situations where the "wrong-doing," was initiated/perpetuated through fraud or other illicit activities, but the action in question would still not be wrong because it is not proscribed.
Re:I'm not on his side, but (Score:3, Informative)
Innocent until proven guilty is an ideal and a legal technicality, but its much less than that in reality. Although you are legally "innocent", if you do not post bail or bond or the judge determines that your crime does not warrent bail or bond, you stay in jail until you are proven guilty. Yes, that means that an innocent person is expected to stay in jail right beside the guilty and convicted people.
Another thing that kills me is when the press say
Re:I'm not on his side, but (Score:2)
Don't they ask you "How do you plea?". Surely that should be "Do you plea guilty?" then?
Re:I'm not on his side, but (Score:5, Insightful)
That's only in a court of law, and
The reality of the situation is, under the alleged crime(s) he committed, he has yet to be convicted. As such, he is entitled to be treated justly and without contempt, at least WRT the current situation.
In an enlightened world, perhaps. But in that enlightened world, we wouldn't have spammers and scumware writers in the first place. Just because the law presumes his innocence, does not mean that we the public can't have our own opinions.
He's a witch, burn him!
Re:I'm not on his side, but (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I'm not on his side, but (Score:2)
He said. i did it and it is not illegal (Score:2)
the ftc ask:
-stop selling that.
-stop the bloody script.
-tell us how much you sold.
Well i had this "buy spyware blocker" popup here in the neighbourhood. It seemed to be installad just by browsing. It gave popup when startin internet exploring.
it installed
{18FE630C-B441-5CC2-8356-63557BD77A19} WINNT\system32\bijntuvm.dll
i also noted an other popup for http://www.jarservices.com/
but it also showed popup that are
Re:I'm not on his side, but (Score:2)
Sic a collection agency on him (Score:2)
Turn him over to collections. It won't help his credit rating any if he refuses to pay his bills. I hope you kept copies of everything?
Re:I'm not on his side, but (Score:2)
1) This isn't a court of law, it's slashdot. We have no such requirements or protections.
2) He's been found guilty of so many related crimes in the past that (outside of a court) he's pretty much already guilty of this one.
3) He's admitted committing the act (although not admitted any wrongdoing).
4) "Innocent until proven guilty" isn't an absolute, even in the US Supreme court. Take a look at your drug laws, which put the onus on the defendent to prove himself innocent.
Re:I'm not on his side, but (Score:2)
Simple, most people decide one way or the other well ahead of time anyway. How many people do you know that still think OJ's guilty even though he was found innocent by the court?
Secondly this is Spamford Wallace we're talking about. Most of the people here have been around long enough to remember him, and he's not the type of person to get the benef
Extortion? (Score:5, Interesting)
This may be the tactic that the FTC goes with in prosecuting.
Vigilante Justice (Score:2, Insightful)
Maybe I should see someone about that . . .
spyware... appropriate article! (Score:2, Informative)
I'm not surprised (Score:5, Interesting)
In short:
- Wallace use to junkfax until the junk fax law went into place.
- Wallace formerly ran Cyber Promotions, the biggest spammer on the planet at the time, and specialized in things like relay repaying, false return addresses, and outright lying about his lists being "opt-in". It took a permanent injuction to get him to stop.
- Now he's doing spyware and demanding money from people with infected computers.
It's been said before and it's worth repeating again: Wallace has repeatedly shown little respect for other peoples' property and resources. He has no place in society. As far as I'm concerned, he should be locked up for the rest of his natural life.
If I sound bitter, it's because I had to deal with Cyberpromo junk (and that from their rogue ISP, AGIS, if anyone remembers them!) back in the 90's and know exactly how incorrigible he is.
And, be sure to fact-check ANYTHING that comes out of his mouth. I mean it.
Re:I'm not surprised (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I'm not surprised (Score:2, Funny)
Re:I'm not surprised (Score:2)
Fax 603-994-0153. I picked it up at one of Wallace's website. (His site has a funny "I'm just an innocent businessman!" rant on it right now.) http://www.passthison.com/ [passthison.com]
Re:I'm not surprised (Score:2)
$0.16 Cure for This: (Score:3, Informative)
Wallace's "former" partner is into spyware, too (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Wallace's "former" partner is into spyware, too (Score:2, Funny)
Here is a quote from the site.
KAZANON makes you TOTALLY ANONYMOUS and INVISIBLE - NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW YOUR REAL IDENTITY, LOCATION, or IP ADDRESS.
Now let's take a look at the EULA
III -The user understands and agrees that the application may or may not render them anonymous, untraceable or invisible at any given time, and acknowledge and agree that Odysseus Marketing shall in no way be liable or responsible for any actions of the user, and agree to hold harmless Odysseus Ma
Re:Wallace's "former" partner is into spyware, too (Score:2)
The way to cure such is to hold the EULA void and the perpetrator liable for consequential damages, real or imaginary.
Proof? (Score:4, Interesting)
First, let me stress that this should not be done in IE, or even on Windows. You have been warned.
Second, check out http://www.freevegasclubs.com/. Specifically view source and look for the mp3 link that's hidden in comments. Download and hear Sanford's name. Note the irony when you read "Don't worry, we don't sell names to spammers!"
Third, check out this link (again! don't do this on IE): http://www.freevegasclubs.com/serve.cgi?1 This was obtained by going to a hidden link that redirected to this. Don't ask me what the original URL was -- I don't have a record of it right now. I discovered it earlier this week when my Snort detector went off with a WSH exploit and I noticed some of my internal minions being trojaned.
So what does that serve up? That would be his trojan code. A IE WSH exploit. It downloads and installs some files over FTP. If you go to the FTP site that's listed in the code, you can download all his stuff. Here's a breakdown:
I'm pretty sure the stuff that ClamAV doesn't catch are trojans and/or spyware. Just haven't had the chance to analyze and submit yet...
Have fun, and don't get caught without proper protection.
and this is why... (Score:2)
'Wallace dismisses consumers' anger over incessant pop-ups that gum up their computers. "Pop-ups have been around a long time. Just because they're an annoyance you shouldn't have to pay damages," he said.'
A mere "annoyance"? Motherfucker, I've seen computers that were UNUSABLE because of popups. As far as I'm concerned, if you turn a $1,000 computer into an unusable paperweight, you very much *should* pay damages.
Fuck. You.
Text of complaint (Score:4, Informative)
Just incase anyone cares:
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
DISTRICT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE
FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION,
Plaintiff,
v.
SEISMIC ENTERTAINMENT
PRODUCTIONS, INC.,
SMARTBOT.NET, INC., and
SANFORD WALLACE,
Defendants.
Civil No.
COMPLAINT FOR INJUNCTION
AND OTHER EQUITABLE RELIEF
Plaintiff, the Federal Trade Commission ("FTC" or "Commission"), for its Complaint alleges as follows:
1. The Commission brings this action under Section 13(b) of the Federal Trade Commission Act ("FTC Act"), 15 U.S.C. 53(b), to obtain preliminary and permanent injunctive relief, restitution, disgorgement and other equitable relief against the Defendants for their unfair acts or practices in connection with their marketing and their distribution of software programs to consumers in violation of Section 5(a) of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. 45(a).
JURISDICTION AND VENUE
2. This Court has subject matter jurisdiction over this matter pursuant to 15 U.S.C. 45(a), 52, and 53(b); and 28 U.S.C. 1331,1337(a) and 1345.
3. Venue in the United States District Court for the District of New Hampshire is proper under 15 U.S.C. 53(b), as amended by the FTC Act Amendments of 1994, Pub. L. No. 103-312, 108 Stat. 1691, and 28 U.S.C. 1391(b) and (c).
PLAINTIFF
4. Plaintiff, the Federal Trade Commission, is an independent agency of the United States government created by statute. 15 U.S.C. 41 et seq. The Commission enforces Section 5(a) of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. 45(a), which prohibits unfair or deceptive acts or practices in or affecting commerce. The Commission is authorized to initiate federal district court proceedings by its own attorneys to enjoin violations of the FTC Act and to secure such equitable relief as may be appropriate in each case, including restitution for injured consumers, consumer redress, and disgorgement. 15 U.S.C. 53(b).
DEFENDANTS
5. Defendant Seismic Entertainment Productions, Inc. ("Seismic") is a New Hampshire corporation with its principal place of business located at 11 Farmington Road, Rochester, New Hampshire 03867. Since at least December 2003, and continuing thereafter, Seismic has marketed various products, including purported "anti-spyware" software called "Spy Wiper" and "Spy Deleter," on behalf of others. Seismic advertises these products through "pop-up" advertisements displayed to consumers using various Internet web sites that it controls, including the web sites at www.default-homepage-network.com and downloads.default-homepage-network.com. Seismic also downloads to and installs on consumers' computers various advertising and other software programs, including Favoriteman, TrojanDownloader and Clearsearch. Seismic transacts or has transacted business in the District of New Hampshire.
6. Defendant SmartBot.Net, Inc. ("SmartBot") is a Pennsylvania corporation with its corporate address at 3 Cobblestone Court, Richboro, Pennsylvania 18954, and its principal place of business at 495 Route 9, Barrington, New Hampshire 03825. Since at least December 2003, and continuing thereafter, SmartBot has marketed various products, including purported "anti-spyware" software called "Spy Wiper" and "Spy Deleter," on behalf of others. SmartBot advertises these products through popup advertisements displayed to consumers using various Internet web sites that it controls, including the web sites at www.passthison.com, object.passthison.com, and www.smartbotpro.net. In addition, the pop-up advertisements served by SmartBot also are displayed when a computer user visits various Internet web sites controlled by Seismic, including, but not limited to, www.default-homepage-network.com. SmartBot transacts or has transacted business in the District of New Hampshire.
7. Defendant Sanford Wallace ("Wallace") is or has been President and owner of Defendants Se
Dangerous precedent (Score:3, Insightful)
Wouldn't just about every software vendor in the world be guilty of these charges?
I'm not saying Wallace shouldn't be prosecuted, but they need to come up with something a bit more specific.
First junk faxing, then spamming (Score:3, Funny)
I can't be the only one who thinks the world would be a better place if "Spamford" Wallace's mommy knew about Roe v. Wade [tourolaw.edu].
I know I'm late replying to this story... (Score:2)
I pity the addict (Score:2)
trojan spyware removal tool (Score:2)
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Mailwiper and Spywiper (Score:2)
Also not mentioned in the