Canada Moves to Biometric Passports 21
ancarett writes "The Toronto Star reports that Canada's Passport Office is preparing to roll out a biometric passport in 2005. The new e-Passport will include a digital chip that can store the holder's photograph and other personal information. Nothing but vague assurances on privacy and security of data: who's surprised?"
Poorly thought out. (Score:3, Interesting)
From the article it sounds like they are just trying to store a copy of what's already on the passport, just in an electronic form.
While redundant copies are fine, as soon as it moves to a digital format it's no longer secure and can be freely copied. The say in the article that they haven't thought out the ramificatons of moving to a digital format. Well I'd think identity theft would be a biggie there!
They should think about this a bit more before they just throw technology at the percieved problem and hope it goes away.
Not impressed! (Score:2, Insightful)
Good thing I just renewed (Score:2, Funny)
I had to replace an expired passport last year, so now I get to wait until 2008 before I have to worry about this.
I'm sure they'll have the bugs worked out by then....
... Right?
Re:Good thing I just renewed (Score:1)
In respects to this project, I wish it would fail. A digital copy has me extremely worried. Best thing we can do is get other people onside to block this crapola.
the concept of having a passport ... (Score:2, Informative)
So in order for someone to use a digital passport, all the countries with which your country have diplomatic relations, should have the right equipment (hardware and software) to take advantage of it!
In other words, it sounds really neat but i dont think it has practical use
This is like having a Gigabit network card when you are connected to a 10 mbit hub! (sorry i couldnt resist the geeky comparison)
Re:the concept of having a passport ... (Score:1)
This could be done safely, but won't be. (Score:3, Interesting)
But it'll never happen that way. To have all that nifty data in one place is just too tempting.
How would a hash work? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:How would a hash work? (Score:1)
Re:How would a hash work? (Score:5, Interesting)
This is acually a pretty good system - the actual biometric data is NOT stored anywhere it can be stolen and reused. If the passport is lost, report it stolen, and that line in the DB (just the hash) is marked so that anyone using it is apprehended.
Then, create a new passport for the user. It will have a new hash, and due to the microscopic differences between any two face / fingerprint scans the new hash will be different.
I think they've just solved the biometric data problem. Now, just try to get the government to agree to it - note this way it can ONLY be used for verification, and only against the passport they are carrying. AND, it prevents anyone from being able to create forged passports unless they are able to insert hashes into the government database. It cannot be used in criminal investigations or general spying because the government doesn't HAVE any data (fingerprints or facial scans) to work with.
Ingenious. Perfect. Secure. Will never be adopted.
Re:How would a hash work? (Score:2)
storing the hash itself is as simple as getting any old database and putting the string in there.. dead easy (even i could do this)
So process is:
1. Give passport to airport person for checking
2. They download your data from the chip to the computer.
3.Verify that the chip and the photo whatever on the passport match
4.
PPT Sucks (Score:3, Insightful)
So what if we have this whizbang electronic passport ? Who else has the hardware to verify its integrity except the canadian authorities ? The purpose of a passport is to authenticate your identity ABROAD. Do you think border guards in Mexico will have the e-reader ? Hell no. Anything that relies on local verification is doomed to fail, just like it does on our beloved Internet. Someone out there is going to get their hands on a chip programmer and a holographic printer because there is sufficient monetary and criminal incentive to do so. No way around it unless the whole world gets together and implements a central DB, and even then, sysadmins can be bought.
It's always a race against crime, except the bad guys have all the trump cards.
Eye for an Eye (Score:2)
How long do yu think that would last eh?
This is pressure from Washington (Score:2, Interesting)
Quite possibly this is the condition of a deal with Washington to exempt Canadians from stricter biometric identification when crossing the border.
Otherwise Ottawa is probably just desperate to stay in the good books, so they're extending this as an olive branch to Washington.
Re:This is pressure from Washington (Score:2, Insightful)
However, canadian/US citizens don't require passports to travel between USA/Canada.
This is just the first step to justifying biometric measurements on drivers licenses, and other forms of government ID.
afterall, what is the point of having biometrics on the Canadian passport, if an enemy combatant can simply use a fake drivers license and a fake birth certificate to enter the "homeland".
Or, use the age old ploy of simply using legal documentation obtained properly or even fraudulently. Not
Why are they doing this? (Score:2)
The US Visitor and Immigrant Status Indicator Technology (US-VISIT) programme, introduced by the Department of Homeland Security, had originally required the citizens of all "visa waiver countries" to have biometric information contained on their passports by October 2004. (Visa waiver countries are those whose citizens do not need a visa to enter the US for a period of up to 90 days; they include the EU member states.) The deadline was recentlyl extended to October 2005.
The
I'm surprised (Score:3, Insightful)
Next, I really wonder about counterfitting. I didn't see anything really that really stood out as being a supremely secure and safe solution to this. I dunno, maybe I'm just paranoid. Sometimes I think going digital would be safer and harder to counterfeit, other times I think such archaic ways (like the funky paper US money is printed on now) is safe too. Maybe a combination of a smart card and funky paper is the way to go.
Fingerprints (Score:1)
Anyway, I doubt you'll be able to copy the data and use it without the actual passport/picture/fingerprints, so the electronic data itself would be a bit useless without the hardcopy.