Kazaa-lite Shut Down 634
atari2600 writes "Finally it has happened. Zeropaid is reporting that the Kazaalite K++ project has been shutdown by Sharman Networks. The project, which had been set up to block spy and ad ware within the Kazaa Media Desktop Program has achieved notoriety within the P2p world through its simplistic approach and success in reverse engineering the Kazaa application."
thats one way (Score:5, Funny)
Re:thats one way (Score:5, Informative)
Re:DietK (Score:5, Interesting)
Since the site doesn't really say too much about it, has anyone ever used it?
In other news... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:In other news... (Score:5, Informative)
GIFT (http://gift.sf.net) is now a wonderful program that connects to Fasttrack (kazaa,) the old fasttrack network (openfasttrack), the opennapster network (old napster), and gnutella. When you do a search in one of the gift frontends you do a search in all of those protocols.
The interfaces could use some polishing (i like giFTcurs the best), but I think gift has a tremendous amount of potential.
Re:In other news... (Score:5, Informative)
We should benefit a lot from OpenFT as it matures. So far, it's the best offering we have for a non-centralized, Kazaa-style network.
Re:In other news... (Score:3, Insightful)
The potential being a fine from the RIAA.
Re:DietK (Score:5, Informative)
it modifies the kazaa client at runtime, and therefore is not in dmca-trouble (the authors are rather careful about it).
it suppresses ads, paid search results, and kazaa spyware. it also allows more than the limited number of searches, automatic re-searching for files, and other nifty things.
the only problem with it, is that you need a full kazaa install, and therefore must install the kazaa spyware (which is then removed by dietk).
i would recommend it.
Re:DietK (Score:3, Interesting)
I do however, still recommend GiFT and Apollon for P2P, it's simply the best.
Poisoned (Score:3, Informative)
Re:thats one way (Score:5, Funny)
Of course, you can still get the kazzaalite application from any of the P2P networks, including Kazaa.
-1: ironic.
Re:thats one way (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:thats one way (Score:3, Insightful)
"Of course, you can still get the kazzaalite application from any of the P2P networks, including Kazaa."
That will work until Kazaa does something to the protocol or client that makes K++ no longer work. This will happen within a week, I predict.
Re:thats one way (Score:5, Insightful)
Slashdotting is just one of the reasons that P2P is a useful part of the internet, in addition to HTTP. The bandwidth is bourne by the people receiving the content, and the bandwidth increases the more people are requesting something. It's a pretty sensible model, and scales very well indeed.
Try setting up a server to stream video to people. Big-Brother spent millions on a server farm, with *-loads of bandwidth, all of which they paid for themselves. Do that with P2P, and all you need is a node and some DSL.
Maybe people don't realise the real gains to the internet when they whine about P2P as being some sort of illicit activity...
Re:thats one way (Score:3, Informative)
MULTICASTING!
This is completely ignored by today's networking people.
Somehow, P2P got buzzword status and now noone thinks of multicasting any more. But it has been invented just for efficient 1 to n distribution of data.
Hopefully, with IPv6, multicast will spread.
Re:thats one way (Score:3, Insightful)
It's also very unlikely that 2 users on the same subnet are going to want the same MP3 at the same time, which removes the efficiency argument.
PS: mentioning IP multicasting is guaranteed karma -- nothing like the crazy, unimplemented wonder technology of the future, even when it'
Re:thats one way (Score:3, Informative)
Broadcasting on MC requires an expensive contract with a provider, whereas P2P simply requires one, single, node. Cheap, simple, and very scary to people who want control.
P2P can be largely untraceable, barring massive government involvement around the world, while multicasting is as controllable as TV. The company providing the MC is a single point of control; P2P is democratic, spontaneous, and as hard to control as the Internet itself.
Re:thats one way (Score:4, Informative)
Download k-lite 2.4.1 from:
Kazaa Lite [tripod.com]
Latest version is 2.4.3, from September 24th (Score:3, Insightful)
Download Kazaa Lite 2.4.3 from: (Score:3, Informative)
Download Kazaa Lite 2.4.3 from:
Kazaa Lite 2.4.3 [download.de]
RIAA is keying on KAZAA mainly since they don't (Score:3, Informative)
Use anonymous P2P. [guardian.co.uk]
Other P2P software. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:thats one way (Score:5, Insightful)
Programming in the United States was never a career. Get over it and find something else to do now that it's being outsourced to other countries where people work for less.
People need to *WORK* for their money.
Yes, because doing composition in a studio for hundreds of hours isn't work, or anything.
Did ford get sued by the horse and cart companies?
That is an incredibly poor analogy. Ford produced a replacement for an old type of transportation. P2P apps don't make music on their own.
If you don't mind listening to 100% machine-generated music, then don't worry about supporting artists. If you want to hear original music, they need to get paid.
Re:thats one way (Score:4, Insightful)
GiFT (Score:5, Informative)
Re:GiFT (Score:3, Interesting)
Is there a decent working GiFT frontend for Windows? The only ones listed on SourceForge seem to be dead or still in alpha...
Re:GiFT (Score:3, Informative)
A little ironic, don't you think? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:A little ironic, don't you think? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:A little ironic, don't you think? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:A little ironic, don't you think? (Score:3, Insightful)
> smoking tobacco.
Bongs are not illegal to own or buy either.
Think of it like a pirate movie (Score:5, Funny)
Napster is the crazy, "bad but cool", immoral and greedy but gallant and kind pirate. His death scene is dramatic and gets you all pissed off at whoever it was who took him down. Afterward his crew scatters and his ship is sold off to some random merchant group.
Gnutella is the romantic, moral, and heroic pirate who fails either because of incompetence but because his own lack of cruelty (or, depending on how you look at it, his softness) is in the end exploited as a weakness.
Sharman Networks is the band of pirates which is just plain EVIL. They don't care about anything, they have no positive qualities, and despite the whole pirates-are-cool mentality of the movie, I mean, come on, they're just *evil*. Their leader, Kazaa, is bloodthirsty and cruel, and he killed his gallant and kind first mate Morpheus-- who is played by Orlando Bloom and who most of the audience had fallen in love with at that point-- in cold blood, out of pure envy and greed.
The RIAA, of course, is the stock British Navy captain, because even though he technically represents "good", and technically one supposes his job is to go around and save lives and stuff, you root against him anyway, because he's a slimeball, he's blatantly corrupt, and everyone who works for him was cruelly and forcibly conscripted into a hellish life of prison-like service to the navy during raids on passing ships which are not really (when you think about it) much different from the raids performed by the pirates.
Only a few seconds in... (Score:2)
The K++ Network (Score:2, Informative)
Well, it is a decentralized network, so it cannot be shut down. Nut there will be no more updates, I suppose.
Re:The K++ Network (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The K++ Network (Score:3, Informative)
"... that the Kazaalite K++ project has been shutdown by Sharman Networks. The project, which had been
Kazaalite is just a "hacked" up version on Kazaa
Re:The K++ Network (Score:5, Informative)
How you ask?
Recent upgrades to Kazaa clients (2.5 and higher) make them less tolerant with outdated or non official clients such as Kazaa Lite K++. Kazaa Lite is based on a version prior to 2.5, therefore a current supernode will not accept its shares. Although this will cause network headaches in terms of traffic, the client will not be able to participate or download off the main FastTrack network. This will effectively cluster and isolate all modified Kazaa clients from FastTrack.
from http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=339
Oh Well, there not the first, there not the last (Score:5, Interesting)
Re: (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Oh Well, there not the first, there not the las (Score:5, Informative)
It's efficient in distributing large files quickly, especially if lots of people want them. However, it does so at the cost of any and all anonymity.. It's trivial to find IPs of people sharing any file (just ask the tracker; it'll give you a FULL LIST), without even downloading the file/joining the swarm yourself.
The MPAA at least has already begun sending DMCA-ish notices to ISPs stating "BitTorrent" as the network name..
As I've also said before, Don't do things illegal in your country!
(And if you want to do them, maybe you need to move to a different Country? God bless Canada and the blank media tax; I don't mind paying a little bit on every CD-R for a music piracy license!)
Re:Oh Well, there not the first, there not the las (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Oh Well, there not the first, there not the las (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Oh Well, there not the first, there not the las (Score:5, Insightful)
I do. We have a similar thing in the US. Every time you buy a blank audio tape, video tape, or DAT tape, Disney and others get a cut of the sale.
Why should the producers of "Martin Luther King Speaks" have to pay Disney for the privilege of producing their own program?
Re:Oh Well, there not the first, there not the las (Score:5, Interesting)
BitTorrent is too centralized for this kind of things (large scale, anyway).
Instead, check out eMule [emule-project.net] and Soulseek [slsknet.org].
Re:Oh Well, there not the first, there not the las (Score:3, Informative)
Shareaza 1.9 is out. [shareaza.com] It supports 4 protocols.
So what? (Score:3, Interesting)
And someone will strip-out the spyware.
And, pray tell, how can something out of the reach of the RIAA's long legal arm can have things done????
Don't worry (Score:3, Funny)
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recursive (Score:3, Funny)
You can find Kazaa on K Lite ++ too!
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Re:Don't worry (Score:5, Interesting)
You know, how the whole P2P industry claims that they don't have control over their content, and that it's really a medium intended for legal distribution. Heh.
the story at slyck (Score:5, Informative)
Still works for me... (Score:5, Funny)
Even if the Kazaa Lite website goes away, what's to prevent people from trading the old version of Kazaa Lite on Kazaa?
Re:Still works for me... (Score:5, Interesting)
No doubt it will be reverse engineered again, but it will be harder to distribute and publicise that fix without a central website. It will still get out though - word of mouth will spread it.
I think I'll stick to the iTMS (well, when it's finally available for the UK).
Re:Still works for me... (Score:4, Informative)
"Recent upgrades to Kazaa clients (2.5 and higher) make them less tolerant with outdated or non official clients such as Kazaa Lite K++. Kazaa Lite is based on a version prior to 2.5, therefore a current supernode will not accept its shares. Although this will cause network headaches in terms of traffic, the client will not be able to participate or download off the main FastTrack network. This will effectively cluster and isolate all modified Kazaa clients from FastTrack."
Obligatory mirroring (Score:5, Informative)
The project, which had been set up to block spy and ad ware within the Kazaa Media Desktop Program has achieved notoriety within the P2p world through its simplistic approach and success in reverse engineering the Kazaa application.
However, the program infringed on the copyright of Sharman Networks, the company that now own and program the Kazaa Media Desktop application, after the purchase of the code and copyright in 2002. The FastTrack (Kazaa) network is financed through advertising systems, which Kazaa Lite K++ does not include, and so was seen as a threat by the owners.
Sharman have threatened legal action, and ordered that the offending content be removed from the official Kazaa Lite sites, including http://www.kazaalite.tk/ which now contains no reference to the existance of the application.
RatFaced said that the decision was ?Ironic, that Kazaa is complaining about copyright issues, especially as K-Lite ++ stands for everything that Kazaa CLAIMS to stand for... but fails to deliver.?
We will perhaps never see Kazaa Lite again, but we can hope that users will remain aware of the spyware that is hidden inside the Kazaa application, which is used to finance the creation of the software.
eMule and WinMX offer spyware-free alternatives to Kazaa.
Well crap. Help me with a new program (Score:5, Interesting)
See, I live in a dorm, and we're unable to connect to Kazaa here, the network flat out won't let us, with no (legal) way around it. For some reason though, K-Lite still connects. Can someone reccomend a good program to me for all file types? I predominantly download movies, the occasional game to demo it, and sometimes music. And please don't reccomend iMesh. I don't know if I could have intentionally installed that much spyware on my computer. I strongly doubt they have anything of the GNU variety blocked, but there are so many GNU P2P programs I don;t know which one to get. Noobish question I'm sure, but any advice is appreciated.
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Hmmmm curious... (Score:5, Interesting)
<conspiracy mode=1>
Maybe the RIAA has paid off the makers of K++ and made this new "app" as a honeypot for people to use instead so to collect data on users who request songs that are copyrighted... What kept K++ anonymous was its decentralized system, why would the RIAA not go after something that is directly hosting copyrighted files? Unless some news about the RIAA going after Soul Seek comes up, I am gonna steer clear of it...
<conspiracy mode=0>
Alternate Kazaa-Lite download source (Score:3, Informative)
Specifics from the Slyck Article (Score:3, Informative)
The main thing that people may not be getting is that not only is Sharman shutting down the Kazaa Lite download sites (which in it of itself would not be so much of a problem since it can be distributed over P2P), it's also making the new client (2.5) not let K-Lite (or any Kazaa under 2.4 for that matter) participate in its shares, basically banning it from the mainstream Kazaa network. If we factor in the fact that K-Lite users generally disable becoming a supernode, this becomes a real problem.
However, the article also mentions that there is DietK [dietk.com] which strips all of the adware off of Kazaa (although it doesn't have all of the other nice features of K-Lite), and other clients which are still compatible with the fast track network.
Don't care?...you should (Score:5, Insightful)
Alot of the spyware out there is destructive. It can and does slow your computer down, mess with your system settings, and in some cases completely disable your computer. Perhaps if Kazaalite was making money off this (i think they might have been..maybe it was diet kazaa) it would be a slightly different matter. Regardless, users of their own computers should have the right to disable software which causes their computer to do things which they don't want it to. Hell, forget doing it for a profit. A car manufacturer can't prevent me from buying a modified or refurbished car from a private dealer.
Alot of people out there want to pass consumer rights laws to combat the DMCA and other intrusive laws. This is not a good solution -- its only an eternal game of cat and mouse. These laws need to be repealed. Sure, let microsoft use copy-protection and other schemes for their xbox, but don't stop me, as the owner of that piece of equipment, from modifying it so that it does what *I* want it too.
I predict... (Score:5, Insightful)
Get your old versions here (Score:5, Informative)
I could care less, I stopped downloading from it some time ago. Another /.er recommended iRate, [sourceforge.net] which is quite good.
SIMPLE SOLUTION!!! (Score:5, Informative)
I could care less what a program wants to "spy" on when it's on a VMware os with a bare bones WinXP Pro install. Shut down VMware, don't save the changes, and I start VMware every time with a fresh, uh... virgin :) os and my P2P app.
www.vmware.com
Here's a tip, make one VMware session that has all the known P2P apps outthere. Let the spyware install! Horray! Bwcause there is nothing to spy on. Inside the dedicated "P2P machine" I keep all the P2P's in the startup and hide all desktop icons and even the taskbar is set to autohide. Start the machine, download stuff, then just ftp to main box. Then shut down vmware without saving. Simple.
Open source equivs to VMware? There are some I think. Know of any?
internet radio (Score:5, Informative)
Shut down? (Score:3, Funny)
What I'm wondering is... (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, it would slow the network speed to about 1/nth, where n is the average number of people you have to route through. However, n needn't be very large in practice. As has been shown with the socalled "small world" network theory, each person needs few outside links to make n small. And online, that is easier than ever.
Basicly, I'd think it would be most useful if each node kept a small search database (e.g. the share lists of all their direct friends), and if not found, pass the request on. Would make for a bit more transfers, but a (zipped) metadata file is trivially small compared to an mp3 or divx rip. Think it'd be more efficient than searching local node only. It would also give you a good list of files you could browse where transfers should be fast (direct P2P), which is always nice.
The advantages would be great: No central point of attack. No way to "scan" the network. Your identity is only revealed to your friends, who already know you. Because I know many people do not appriciate opening up their files to the entire Internet. However, they'd have no problem sharing with friends and family.
Also, your bandwidth goes to someone "close" to you. (Priority should probably be given to closer friends, both because of less links involved (more efficient) and because they're friends per se).
I think that'd be a welcome addition to the current crop of P2P nets, not to replace the current P2P nets but rather to replace the direct IRC/ICQ/MSN/FTP/whatever transfers. I definately think there's a market here for all those that have been scared off more traditional P2P nets.
Kjella
Re:But I am using it right now? (Score:5, Funny)
"They don't go to heaven where the angels fly
Are you an RIAA spokesperson? (Score:5, Insightful)
And be it that it may that you are only interested in music, many other people do have other interests. I use kazaa k++ for perfectly legitimate reasons, such as finding beta patches to games or looking for humerous video clips.
Why should people "just buy the factory CDs anyway"? Most of them are crap. They are a waste of money. The RIAA has screwed itself with its own corporate greed by constantly promoting artists that are without talent. If I want to show the artists that I enjoy what they do, I will go to a live performance. Most artists are not seeing any substantial income from their CD sales- that gets eaten up by the record companies for a bunch of bullshit fees and promotion costs. Bands make their money from touring- and the RIAA now wants a bigger piece of that pie too.
Re:Are you an RIAA spokesperson? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Are you an RIAA spokesperson? (Score:4, Insightful)
The problem with his argument is that it goes against the Slashdot Hive approved opinion.
You say that downloading a few songs is cheaper that buying the whole albumn. Ok, fine, so downloading is cheaper than buying. So is downloading wrong? Obviously, since you add that you only use P2P software for "legitimate" reasons. Downloading must be bad, and buying good, right? Well, no, don't buy because the artists suck and the RIAA takes most of the money anyway. RIAA sucks, fight the power, download songs!!
Which songs do you download? The ones you like? But I thought the artists sucked?
I guess people justify stealing from the artists by stealing more from the RIAA
The end of albums (Score:5, Interesting)
Funny you should say that because there was a USA Today article [usatoday.com] in today's newspaper that discussed the implications of a single song music market, ie- the end of the album. There are still some artists who produce albums as an artistic whole, not just a bunch of singles, but as a complete artistic statement. The fear is that if the per song market becomes dominent, that the art of albums will consequently suffer.
Definitely some interesting thoughts to consider. I've been on both sides of the fence. I've bought albums that I thought, "Wow, the rest of this sucks." and I've also bought albums and thought, "Wow, I'm so glad I have all of this, it rocks!".
Re:The end of albums (Score:5, Interesting)
Yeah, but they aren't the ones that'll be impacted by the single song download market. It'll be your Britney (et al) CDs with 2-3 "good" tracks and the rest filler.
Besides. How hard is it to search for a zip/rar of the whole album anyway?
Re:The end of albums (Score:3, Interesting)
Don't then. ;-) Tell them it's a box of files and you have to unpack it to get them all. Mention it's easier to bring home the shopping when it's in one bag, rather than lot's of little bags. They'll get what you mean.
Plain English works most of the time! Just mention whatever you need to teach in a form they are already familiar with.
The radio and tv stations are at fault for this... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:The end of albums (Score:3, Insightful)
The "single song" market has always dominated the market. With the demise of vinyl, it just became hard to buy single songs, as the music companies only offered most music as part of a bundle, i.e. an album padded out with what have been B-sides.
The "concept album
Re:Are you an RIAA spokesperson? (Score:5, Insightful)
Does anyone have any hard conclusive proof that this is true or is it just another rumor perpetuated along the same lines as the "640k out to be enough for anybody" Bill Gates quote?
If bands didn't get any substantial income from CD sales, why would they work so hard to get signed? Could it be that the intangiable benefits of being a signed RIAA band far outweigh any monetary income they get from the CD sales?
Would anyone go to their concerts if they weren't featured on Billboard's top 10 list? How many fans would they have if the only airplay they got was by begging a college radio station to play their demo tape?
All the bands that make any significant revenue from touring are also some of the biggest names on the RIAA's artist list. Do you think that's just a coincidence? Record companies and CD sales are promotional tools for sure, but without them you're going to be playing an empty room in some dive bar in Kansas.
Re:Are you an RIAA spokesperson? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Are you an RIAA spokesperson? (Score:3, Interesting)
Because when you get signed, you are a rock star, not just a garage band.
The phrase "Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll" does not contain the word "money" or "rich".
Musicians - want to get your dues (like pro athletes)? Create a union and go on strike. Start reaping the benefits that your industry creates!
Humorous Video Clips? Highly suspect ... (Score:5, Funny)
Who's he trying to fool with "humorous video clips" We all know what he's really downloading.
Re:Are you an RIAA spokesperson? (Score:3, Informative)
The REAL tragady of P2P (Score:5, Insightful)
Everyone talks about getting their music for free and whatnot. For me P2P was all about discovering new music. When I was on Napster back in the day my CD purchasing budget was about $50-$100 a month! I was getting new songs which *I* liked, not what some marketing department wanted me to listen to. Also as I mentioned earler, what about preserving music which cannot be found leagaly? P2P makes for a great medium for this!
Damm u RIAA, Metalica and everyone else who was against P2P.
Re:The REAL tragady of P2P (Score:4, Insightful)
And thus P2P would be a living, vibrating creation, in 2003 sharing songs and movies created before 1998 - I think that's a fair tradeoff. If you want something newer, go the the site like ebay, and purchase the songs for a buck a piece, directly from the artists.
hmm.. wrong? (Score:5, Insightful)
Longer? depends how far you are from the shops, and how fast your net connection is. N/m whether the store *has* what you want!
More expensive? haha.. one is free m8, or at least should be lower cost, if you're paying for the connection anyway or someone else is.
Lower quality? you're using the wrong networks, or don't know how to use them right, or are an audiophile who thinks he can hear differences but can't ABX them.
sorry to sound like an argumentative d*ck but the net *is* a better distribution method in general, for music.
Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (Score:4, Insightful)
See the RIAA doesnt want you to sample tracks before you buy them because they want you to buy the cd to sample the track. This way no matter what they always get the sale. Now that the consumer has such an easy way to sample whole albums/track to decide where they like it or not RIAA is loosing money from you and me not buying the whole cd. They hate you and me for that. All of a sudden my cd purchase choices have gotten smarter and "I" save myself money by not spending $20 for a piece of plastic because most of the album sucks.
Thats right RIAA "I" save money by pre listening to music from P2P.
Anyways Im hung over so all ove the above might not make any sence once I reread it in a few hours.
Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (Score:4, Interesting)
So when I get a recommendation from my friends, I find the song. If I like it, I buy the album. If not, I delete the song. Others may not be as moral, but like most things in life, it's how you use something, not the item itself that really determines its value.
Right... And what if the artist doesn't want you to sample the song on Kazaa? You're amazing. You're more moral than I am because you only do it a little? Nonsense. Either copying without permission of the copyright holder is moral, or it's immoral. Personally I say it's moral. Actually, personally I say it's immoral to pay those bastards at the RIAA money when you could be donating it to charity or using it to make this world better. But hey, that's just me.
Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (Score:5, Insightful)
That's fine, assuming that everything you want is available for sale. My wife and I have several thousand CDs and an even larger number of LPs (remember those?).You'd be amazed at how many things that were issued on vinyl have never re-appeared on CD.
During the "Golden Age" of file sharing we were in that group of people who were uploading far more tracks than we ever downloaded. And the vast majority of our uploads were tracks we had ripped from vinyl and cleaned up. Tracks like obscure Siouxsie Sioux EPs and b-sides. We were the first people to rip the "Will Powers" album.
It's fine if you don't know what I'm talking about and it's also fine if you don't care. But the point is that there were a lot of people who wanted these tracks and the no way to get them. What are they supposed to do? For instance, it's the Xmas season. Labels release special tracks to radio stations - Warner Brothers' collection used to be called "Winter Warnerland" and had some really bizzare stuff. Fans want every track and every track simply isn't for sale.
Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (Score:4, Funny)
So you spent $15 for 2 good songs and supported an organization who'll claim you are a thief when you rip that CD to your iPod. Yeah you found a brilliant solution there.
Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (Score:5, Insightful)
Mail-order companies also refuse to deliver there? What is this place, Antarctica? International Space Station? Los Angeles South Central?
Especailly for people like me who like the smaller, less known bands that don't sell in big (if ANY) stores.
A "smaller, less known band" is usually also harder to find at the p2p's.
But for the artists that I like, I would rather pirate their CD and send them the $20 directly.
Nice idea, but somehow everyone stops on the first half.
Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (Score:5, Insightful)
Any idea how hard it is to find Sultana in the US? There's one mail order company I have found that has one of her CDs despite her allegedly being one of the more popular Turkish rap acts.
And where do I send my money to buy a new copy of Bjork's "Telegram" (which I had on CD and lost and now have only the case it came in). That was a fan club release of which only a few hundred copies were ever distributed - so I guess I just never get to hear those songs again? How does that help the artist? How does Bjork (or her label) profit from my never being allowed again to listen to music from her that I once enjoyed?
Siouxsie and Budgie took the initiative long ago and setup their own online label and they have been able to profit from it ever since. I have no qualms about shelling out $20 for one of their CDs because I know where most of that money is going and I've enjoyed their music for nearly 30 years now. There's a lot of other artists I'd love to send money to - Neil Young, Kate Bush, Linda, Sultana, Bjork (whose albums I have purchased in the past but, sadly, I have had to forego in the last release because of my commitment to boycott the RIAA) and Moloko.
Is it my fault most of these artists either cannot put up personal web spaces because of record company contracts or they simply don't realize there may be profit in it for them?
Even if it was, it ain't anymore. The net has been the best thing in the history of recorded music for the dedicated music fan. It's too bad it's taking so long for the artists to catch up with that revolution... but they will. Just as soon as their old contracts run out.
Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Was RIAA involved (Score:3, Informative)
It wasn't the RIAA that took down Kazaa Lite, it was Sharman Networks (the creators of the "real" Kazaa). Kazaa Lite was a reverse engineered and modified version of Kazaa, and Sharman complained it was copyright infringement.
Re:curses (Score:3, Insightful)
If you're to the point of REALLY NEEDING them, and not just wanting them, you could always go buy the cd.
Re:Create (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I was wondering (Score:5, Informative)
Windows Lite [litepc.com].
Re:Was forbidden anyway (Score:5, Interesting)
On a side note, my best friend the sys admin for the hub was shut down because in a month he had uploaded roughly 1.5 tera of data. His friend and insider in the networking department looked up his file and found the following note:
"DO NOT RE-CONNECT WITHOUT FIRST TALKING TO B_______ E_______ FIRST! This is the most flagrant misuse of network reasorces I have ever seen in my career."
Needless to say we framed it and put it on the wall.
Re:just a simple yet profound question.. (Score:3, Informative)