Project Censored 2003 Underreported Stories 948
gobbo writes "Project Censored has released its top 25 underreported stories for 2002-3. Everyone needs to find out about these as part of a daily anti-propaganda vitamin, but /.ers should be particularly interested in #6: "Closing Access to Information Technology," in which Arthur Stamoulis reports on how the conglomeration of control over the physical networks threatens access to content. Alternative links suggested for more info: the Center for Digital Democracy, Media Tank, and Free Press. Double plus good I say, who wants all that information anyway!"
Great Book....But The Censored Book is Censored!! (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Great Book....But The Censored Book is Censored (Score:3, Funny)
It's time to demand the head of whoever's responsible for Conspiracies and Coverups in the Bush administration. Incompetents!
Re: Why Censor When You Can Debunk & Ridicule? (Score:5, Insightful)
The best strategies are to debunk, ridicule and associate valid stories/opinions with undesirable words/people like "communists", "lefties", "conspiracy theorists", etc.
For example, when interviewing "people off the street" make sure you have only the wackos presenting opposing views while you pick out "decent-looking, well-dressed" people to present your own views. And if there aren't enough people who share your views, hire some people off the street or go with local actors/models if your budget allows. Even if both views get equal airtime, the opposing views will be associated with ugly weirdos and who the hell wants to share the same views as them even if they're right?
A similar strategy is to hire strong-looking & charismatic tv/news personalities that support your own views while hiring ugly-assed & uncharasmatic "wimps" to offer very pitiful opposition. I'm sure you can find a decent example of this tactic [foxnews.com] by watching TV.
As you can see, your previously unpopular views can be easily associated with "winners" and opposing views are associated with "whiners, losers, traitors, communists, etc." without resorting to outright censorship.
The best part of this strategy is that it works because the average joe-sixpacks don't understand how to detect bullshit [propagandacritic.com].
To sum it up: associate undesirable words/concepts/people to opposition and associate desirable words/concepts/people to your own views and don't let the pesky facts or Truth get in the way because perception is usually more important in manipulating the public.
This of course goes hand-in-hand with manipulating opinion polls and surveys by carefully crafting questions in ways that lead people to pick desired answers and then hiding the exact original wording of these questions when presenting the results to the public.
Who needs censorship when these tactics work so well?
Re:Great Book....But The Censored Book is Censored (Score:3, Funny)
True Throughout History (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Great Book....But The Censored Book is Censored (Score:4, Informative)
You're not hearing about it because it stands a great chance at being successful, and because it has broad support across party lines, racial lines, and class lines. The media doesn't want you to know that the majority of Americans don't support gay marriage, so they just don't report on the FMA.
Re:Great Book....But The Censored Book is Censored (Score:5, Insightful)
The Post also did a nice big fast A1 lead story [washingtonpost.com] on its own poll finding that the majority of Americans don't support gay unions.
This despite that the Post as an employer is gay friendly, is in a gay-friendly city and is gay friendly editorial-wise.
Heheh I read your blog for a second too. Calling America's liberal's "socialists" just shows you have no idea what you're talking about. This country, including most "liberals" balk at even the most minor shifts towards "social democratic" type of institutions, which are a far cry from socialism.
Anyway, you outweigh the liklihood and support of the FMA.
Still censored? (Score:5, Funny)
list of stories (Score:5, Informative)
#1: The Neoconservative Plan for Global Dominance
#2: Homeland Security?
#3: US Removes Pages from Iraq Report
#4: Rumsfeld's Plan to Provoke Terrorists
#5: The Effort to Make Unions Extinct
#6: Closing Access to Information Technology
#7: Treaty Busting by the United States
#8: US/British forces knowingly use illegal depleted uranium weapons in Gulf War
#9: Where's Afghanistan?
#10: Africa Faces New Threat of Colonialism
#11: U.S. Implicated in Taliban Massacre
#12: Corporate Speech and Corporate Personhood
#13: US Military's War on the Earth
#14: Unwanted Refugees
#15: Venezuela: Bush Administration Behind Failed Military Coup
#16: Plan Puebla-Panama and the FTAA
#17: Clear Channel Monopoly Draws Criticism
#18: Charter Forest Proposal
#19: U.S. Dollar vs. the Euro
#20: For-Profit Military
#21: IMF & World Bank Austerity Policies Come to the US
#22: Welfare Reform Up For Reauthorization and Still No Safety Net
#23: Argentina Crisis Sparks Cooperative Growth
#24: Aid to Israel Fuels Occupation
#25: Convicted Corporations Receive Perks Instead of Punishment
Re:list of stories (Score:5, Funny)
Re:list of stories (Score:5, Insightful)
How to present a political agenda whilst masquerading as a news piece.
Roger Ailes has already done that [foxnews.com] in a much larger more effective way than Project Censored could ever dream of doing.
Re:list of stories (Score:4, Insightful)
Wow, Al Franken posts on these boards?
LOL you're a riot.
"there isn't a major media organization in this country that has the slightest hint of a liberal leaning in at least 20 years." /. reached that far. (I mean, to make a statement like this, you CAN'T be from this planet.)
Holy Mother of God, I didn't realize
To say things like "the whole gay marriage issue doesn't exist on the political spectrum" - maybe you need a little more oxygen?
We certainly are from this planet, and it is right. Consider the following:
1) Name one major media outlet that opposed the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
2) Name one major media outlet that did not immediately start begging to have our civil rights taken away please God so we can be protected on 9/11/01
It was never clearer than it was then. The major media outlets are against civil rights, promote war, and promote blind faith in the government on a regular basis. All "conservative" viewpoints.
Gay marriage does not have anything to do with the government. Amendment 1 of the constitution says congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion. IMHO that translates to no laws made on purely moral bases, no laws simply made because some religion wants them, no laws establishing what constitutes a sanctioned religion. People who support anti-gay legislation are against the constitution of the United States, because they want to force their religion on everyone by law and also to deprive citizens of their rights (read Amendment 14 and see what it has to say on that score).
This is, of course, why the amendment was proposed. The complete disregard fo rthe constitution and rule of law is also why after the supreme court said laws against homosexuality were unconstitutional, state prosecutors said they were going to try and prosecute people anyway and pass more anti-gay laws. And don't get me started about Ashcroft, the damned criminal traitor.
Re:list of stories (Score:3, Interesting)
I had no idea that depleted uranium was illegal to use as munition? Really it's not radio-active anymore, just really frekin heavy.
Anyway, how is that "unpublished"? If you are any sort of war-buff, aviation-buff, or anything else that would tie you to knowing about the A10 Warthog, you would know that the A10 uses depleted uranium rounds in its massively powerful gun. In fact, I just watched a special about the A10 and it's
Re:list of stories (Score:3, Informative)
Agreed, this is hardly news, at least not in the UK.
What gets me is how we go on about how Saddam gassed the Kurds etc, but hear little mention of how Churchill, in the 1920's also used poisoned gas to kill these peoples.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander?
Re:list of stories (Score:3, Funny)
Re:list of stories (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:list of stories (Score:5, Insightful)
You are really comparing a decision made by a group of delegates of all countries to a decision made by one guy? Go look up "democracy" in a dictionary.
Re:list of stories (Score:3, Interesting)
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Re:list of stories (Score:3, Informative)
Re:list of stories (Score:4, Informative)
Given that the WHO, in their DU FactSheet [who.int], does not agree with your statement, I call BS.
Potential health effects of exposure to depleted uranium
"Erythema (superficial inflammation of the skin) or other effects on the skin are unlikely to occur even if DU is held against the skin for long periods (weeks).
No consistent or confirmed adverse chemical effects of uranium have been reported for the skeleton or liver.
No reproductive or developmental effects have been reported in humans."
Re:list of stories (Score:5, Insightful)
Now, pulverize the same DU into particles that can be airborne. Now ingest those same particles and repeat the study. I believe you will find different results. This is because ingested radioactive material producing alpha and beta radiation will not be absorbed by dead skin, but instead by live cells. The results in this case are quite different.
Re:list of stories (Score:3, Insightful)
This is not the consensus at all. The dangers of uranium, depleted or not, are well-studied. Workers at uranium-processing plants were exposed to many times any conceivable exposure of Iraqis for decades. There have been many studies of them and they did not find any significant differences in
Re:list of stories (Score:3, Insightful)
What do you think LEAD is, harmless?
Odd that this sight never brings this up. Lead is so harmful that even the US military has started to reconsider using it. There are firing ranges that are so contaminated with lead that it's leaking into the nearby environment. They're even going to the trouble of doing a formal cleanup.
Where's the socialist world gazette fear mongering on this issue?
Re:depleted U (Score:3, Informative)
Quite: (some excerpts from the FactSheet)
Exposure to uranium and depleted uranium
"A recent United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) report giving field measurements taken around selected impact sites in Kosovo (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia) indicates that contamination by DU in the environment was localized to a few tens of metres around impact sites. Contamination by DU dusts of local vegetation and water supplies was found to be extremely low. Thus, the proba
It's still radioactive..... (Score:3, Informative)
Depleted uranium is still radioactive, just not radioactive that much. Weapons grade uranium is enriched. Depleted uranium has 40% less radioactivity than natural uranium, but it is most certainly radioactive.
But then, so are some glow in the dark watches and the mesh bags from a propane lantern.
What makes DU rounds troublesome is the burning of them, and that releases airborne radioactive particles, which many people argue about the toxicity/leth
Re:list of stories (Score:5, Interesting)
Uranium consists of u-235 and u-238. U-235 is used in nuclear reactors. Depleted uranium is u-238 that has been "depleted" of its nuclear fuel. u-238 is still 70% as radioactive. (Yes 238 is way less radioactive than 235, since removing 0.3% of the material removes 30% of the radioactivity. But it is still radioactive) Further more, uranium is a heavy metal. Like all heavy metals, it is highly toxic. Symptoms of heavy metal poisioning include: Frequent headaches, nausia, vomiting, cold sweating, and neurological degeneration which is often misdiagnosed as Lou Gehrig's disease. Symptoms of radiation damage to the lungs include: Weakened immune system, chronic fatigue, chronic cancer, difficulty breathing, fluid in the lungs.
The pentagon released an internal report warning about all of this, since DU rounds spray large clouds of uranium-oxide dust into the air, which can then be breathed in. The Pentagon now says "We were wrong, it is harmless" But crews of tanks equipt with DU are still told NOT to get out of the tank anywhere near a target that has been hit. Infantry is told not to go near a target that has been hit or they will get cancer.
And no, DU isn't illegal in the US. But it has been determined by the UN to be an illegal weapon, as it violates the Geneva convention. First, they cause undue suffering (Long lasting heavy metal toxicity). Second, they continue to affect the area after they are used (Millions of years, in fact) Third, they are toxic agents. Toxic, biological, and chemical weapons are all illegal.
On the subject of of the Geneva convention, it is also illegal to attack any building, city, or town that is undefended. (Such as the house of a general) Additionally, civilian targets may not be targeted, such as hospitals, orphenages, churches, and so on, UNLESS they are being used for protection by the enemey in a firefight. This means that even if there is a general directing the battle from inside a hospital, you CANNOT attack unless they start shooting. (This means that if you see an enemy soldier haning out with some civilians, you may not fire unless he is shooting back AND using a civilian for cover. If you take a shot with a sniper rifle and hit a civilian, you are not protected and can be tried for murder. If said soldier was engaged in hostilities, then you are protected as long as you did not intend to hit a civilian)
Additionally, it is illegal to present POW's for "public interest." Which includes photographs and television. Further more, on the prisoners in Cuba. The Bush Administration says that the Geneva convention does not apply to them because they are "illegal combatants" but the Geneva convention specifically INCLUDES illegal combatants in protection of POW's rights. If you are a POW you have the right to send and receive mail. It may be read, but not witheld. If you are not then you have the same rights as any civilian prisoner. Right to your phone call, lawyer, etc.
My source for what the Genvea convention says is the USMC conduct guide, so it includes the Marine Corps' interperitation.
In conclusion, two wrongs does not make a right.
Re:list of stories (Score:3, Informative)
No, it has been determined by a UN Agency that it SHOULD be an illegal weapon. There's a difference.
as it violates the Geneva convention. First, they cause undue suffering (Long lasting heavy metal toxicity).
So does lead, which is every bit as toxic as uranium. And the Geneva Convention is referring to armament and ammunition designed specifically to grieviously wound, as opposed to kill: i.e. "dum-du
Re:list of stories (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:list of stories (Score:3, Funny)
#8: US/British forces knowingly use illegal depleted uranium weapons in Gulf War
Bullets are designed to kill or injure. DU does it better! And for longer, too. Plus it sounds scary because people picture "nuclear bullets"!
The alternative would be to have soldiers fire hardened lucky charms marshmallows. The make up for lack of density with that magically delicous flavor.
#10: Africa Faces New Threat of Colonialism
I'm helping out that Nigerian gentleman tha
Taliban Massacre (Score:4, Insightful)
Note that I am not stating that US troops did engage in such behavior, only that there are journalists who claim they have evidence in support of such allegations. That such a story was buried instead of followed up vigorously by the media speaks volumes of their priorities in war reporting. Whatever your political persuasion, you must admit you would want to know if your country was violating a long standing treaty like the Geneva Convention during times of war. Wouldn't you?
--Maynard
Re:list of stories (Score:3, Funny)
#1: 'Loveline' Host: How I Help Stars Beat Drugs
#2: J.Lo Furious Over Ben's Gambling
#3: Liz's Gay Sex Fight Heats Up
#4: David Blaine Pelted with Eggs and Golf Balls During Stunt
#5: Macy Gray - I'm Not Afraid of Death
#6: Top Musicians: We Won't Perform on 9-11
#7: Hilary at War With Wild Child Chelsea
#8: Ben Cancels Bachelor Party When J.Lo Throws a Fit
#9: Matt LeBlanc's a Pain in the Butt to 'Friends'
#10: Colin Farrell Expecting
Re:list of stories (Score:4, Insightful)
I didn't realize that being liberal was equivalent with being interested in the what actually happens in the world, instead of what gets filtered through the short attention span, J-Lo and Ben sieve.
Would you care to respond with substantive argument instead of name calling?
Re:Liberal? (Score:3, Insightful)
#1: The Neoconservative Plan for Global Dominance:
Perhaps you'd like to hear this from American Conservative Magazine [amconmag.com], then?
If only you were right (Score:3, Informative)
So far you've dropped the charge that it's exclusively liberal propaganda that's the story here, which is what I was answering. Moving on:
So you have a few articles from some nutball conservatives who wants America to take over the world.
Not quite there yet, but you seem to have read a little bit of it this time, so I'll give you another bite: We have a few articles from some "nutball conservatives" -- your words -- who want America to take over the world who are presently in positions within Bush's ca
Re:Liberal? (Score:3, Interesting)
Also remember that this "liberal media" never grilled the current Bush on his war record, (being put on the "Champagne Flight" the name for the Texas Air National Guard, or that he went AWOL from it when he ran
Re:Liberal? (Score:3, Insightful)
They couldn't, because 1) liberals never win on a war angle, and 2) Gore spent the war hundreds of miles behind the lines as a "journalist" thanks to his father, Sen. A. Gore Sr.
Did you know that the Bush family was charged under the "Trading with the Enemy Act"
Re:Liberal? (Score:3, Informative)
Gosh, let's see: try this [google.com], or you can just check out the Straight Dope [straightdope.com], he's a pretty good skeptic. The grandparent post is confusing Prescott with the rest of his family, although they all benefited from dealing with the Nazis.
At least one of those links will take you to pdf scans of some original corporate records, which should be enough proof. BTW, the point that they aren't German is exactly the point to be concerned with! What does "Trad
Not biased: Project Censored Hit Clinton Hard Too (Score:5, Insightful)
And for those of you who haven't taken the time to study government or history, "liberal" is not a bunch of welfare-requesting hippies any more than "conservative" is not equal to corporate corruption (Enron, et. al.)
Look past the biased bullshit dished out by both the left and the right and learn to think for yourselves.
"How do you know?" and "Where did you get your info?" are among your best friends.
ps
I happen to think the media was extremely biased against Newt Gingrich in years past but now the exact opposite is happening: the media is overrun with neo-conservatives who try to spin any criticism of our government (one of the most cherished American freedoms) into "liberal bias" or "treason". Since when is opposition to corporate corruption or support for campaign finance reform or simply stating FACTS considered "liberal" or "treason"?
Re:Liberal? (Score:3, Insightful)
That's just perspective: you're using a zoom lens because you're so far away, and it's causing foreshortening. Those articles are centre-left from my point of view, and I know people who are WAY WAY left of me, even miles. The political spectrum is much broader than that offered in the corporate media.
"The media don't tell you what to think, but they DO tell you what to think about." I forget who told me that (probably
Re:list of stories (Score:5, Interesting)
The part most people would dismiss as paranoid would be Rebuilding America's Defenses [cryptome.org] (also available in ridiculously huge pdf from their site [newamericancentury.org]) where Wolfie and Rummy outline their plans for taking advantage of "some catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor", missile defense, increasing independence from the international community, a more mobile, flexible army, robot exoskeletons, tactics for use of robot exoskeletons culled from that 08th MS Team anime, ultrasonic guns designed to induce the brain to release chemicals to produce intense panic, rage, or anything else, drugs that would allow soldiers to deaden their consiences, and chemical and biological weapons tied to certain gene types that would allow them to carry out undetectable assasinations by spraying around genetically engineered ebola viruses.
Their site... (Score:2)
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What we can do.. (Score:5, Interesting)
I suspect, however, that the average American household will go with cable because it is cheaper, there are no line charges per say, and it rolls up nicely in one bill from the cable company along with their cable service. And as #6 says, there are fewer and fewer cable companies that control this access, which should worry most.
I chose Speakeasy.net as my DSL provider because they've had a pretty good presence on the west and east coast and they've always maintained that they're a large 'local isp'. For me, I won't have to worry about having access to a site blocked, such as the recent AOL/MSN fiasco.
But for the average American, these things cannot be promised. There have been more than a few reports of cable companies monitoring and logging traffic of their users and honestly, as time rolls on, I see this becoming more and more of an issue for mega-corps like TimeWarner - they'll be encouraged to tap into this 'gold mine'. Most users probably won't care either.
Since I don't think the policies of these companies will change much in regards to this, the only alternative for those that care about such things - besides lobbying and the like - will be to vote with their pocketbooks. This will not only affect (albiet, realistically, probably little) the mega-corps bottom line, but will help to ensure that those 'other' companies will still be able to provide quality and non-censored access to their paying subscribers.
Re:What we can do.. (Score:2)
Great articles... (Score:5, Insightful)
Unfortunately the vast majority of people out there get their news from the talking-heads on television. These kinds of stories will never be seen on mainstream media (ala CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, et al) as long as they are owned by monolithic corporations with their sole interest being profit.
The brain-dead sheep of the world watch their TV and are fed what the advertisers want:
"Don't question the war in Iraq, buy a Swiffer WetJet!"
Yes, these people know all about dblspeak (Score:4, Insightful)
They should call it... things the left is pissed people haven't gotten more excited about or something...
Flawed, or sound criteria? (Score:5, Interesting)
The fact that the NYT and WSJ picked up the stories imply that they (likely) passed the watchful eyes of editors... they're likely legit.
And yet they weren't picked up on by papers, or =gasp!= television stations across the nation. That makes them candidates for big stories that were underreported in my book. YMMV.
Re:Yes, these people know all about dblspeak (Score:2, Insightful)
It looks like they might have a few valid points, but they have chosen to drown them out with obviously politically motivated drivel.
It's a shame, really. Another great idea sacrificed to unbridled emotionalism.
-Peter
How far... (Score:2)
#17 Clear Channel Monopoly Draws Criticism (Score:3, Informative)
MEDIA FILE, September 2002
Title: "Clear Channel Stumbles"
Author: Jeff Perlstein
Faculty Evaluator: Scott Gordon Ph.D., Jorge Porras Ph.D.
Student Researcher: Melissa Jones, Chris Salvano
Corporate Media Partial Coverage: Now With Bill Moyers, April 26, 2002 and April 4, 2003; The New York Times, January 30, 2003 and February 3, 2003; The Wall Street Journal, January 31, 2003
Clear Channel Communications of San Antonio, Texas may not yet be a household name, but in the past seven years the radio station conglomerate has rocketed to a place alongside NBC and Gannett as one of the largest media companies in the United States.
Before passage of the 1996 Telecommunications Act, a company could not own more than 40 radio stations in the entire country. With the Act's sweeping relaxation of ownership limits, the cap on radio ownership was eliminated. As a result, Clear Channel has dominated the industry by growing from 40 radio stations nationally in the mid-90s, to approximately 1225 stations nationally by 2003. The station also dominates the audience share in 100 of 112 major markets. In addition to its radio stations, Clear Channel also owns television station affiliates, billboards, outdoor advertising, and owns or exclusively books the vast majority of concert venues, amphitheaters, and clubs in the country. According to NOW with Bill Moyers, in 2000 Clear Channel purchased the nation's largest concert and events promoter, and in 2001, the Clear Channel did 70% of national ticket sales.
In 2001, Denver concert promoter, Jesse Morreale, sued Clear Channel. Morreale's suit claims that Clear Channel's use of its billboards to advertise Clear Channel-booked shows at Clear Channel-owned music is in essence a monopoly. The suit also alleges that Clear Channel stations have threatened to withdraw certain music from rotation unless the artist's book concerts through Clear Channel and play at Clear Channel-owned music venues.
Clear Channel has also drawn criticism for using "voice tracking." Voice tracking is when one DJ produces a standardized national broadcast and formats it into their radio stations nationwide- giving the semblance of a local broadcast. By this process, Clear Channel can produce its radio format in San Antonio, Texas and play it on its 1225 radio stations without regard to local music, culture, or issues.
In January 2002, a train carrying 10,000 gallons of anhydrous ammonia derailed in the town of Minot, causing a spill and a toxic cloud. Authorities attempted to warn the residents of Minot to stay indoors and to avoid the spill. But when the authorities called six of the seven radio stations in Minot to issue the warning, no one answered the phones. As it turned out, Clear Channel owned all six of the stations and none of the station's personnel were available at the time.
Senator Byron Dorgan of North Dakota grilled Federal Communications Commission (FCC) chairman Michael Powell over the consolidation of media in the U.S., using the Minot incident as a warning and an example. At a Senate Commerce Committee meeting Dorgan warned that as large media companies, like Clear Channel, buy up the last remaining independent media outlets across the country, the public suffers. According to chairman Powell, there is strong evidence that a lot of times local independent run stations cannot afford to produce quality local news. However, a recent study by Columbia University's Project for Excellence in Journalism found that TV stations owned by smaller media firms generally produce better newscasts
Such branding and consolidation is counter to the FCC's mandate of encouraging media diversity. The FCC is doing very little about the results of increased media concentration. This may be a result of the relationship that exits between the FCC commissioners and the broadcast companies and their lobbyists. According to the Center for Public Integrity (CPI), media companies and lobbyists developed a very cozy relationship. As Chuck Lewis of CPI notes, "We
At the risk of sounding like a troll.. (Score:2)
Re:At the risk of sounding like a troll.. (Score:2, Insightful)
Soko
Re:At the risk of sounding like a troll.. (Score:4, Insightful)
I don't trust anyone that starts their comment "I'm also not trolling..." but I'll bite anyway...
The US government has an effectively miniscule power to censor. An "expose" on censorship in the US is really an indictment of the media - a media which is generally considered to have a slant to the left.
One example we find is that the US media is currently running story after story on how badly things are going in Iraq. This is on contrast with the observation that 1) Almost all the attacks are confined to the Saddam loyalist area arround Tikrit and Baghdad, the rest of the country is fairly peaceful and 2) even moderate-to-left congressmen than have visited Iraq say things are going reasonably well.
Please note that this is not to say that I think things are perfect by any stretch. The media tends to run stories for the purpose of ratings/circulation. Left/Right does not come into it very much at all.
um... (Score:2, Insightful)
There is a difference between a media story and an editorial. While I like a good editorial, regardless of topic, do not confuse spice for vitamin.
"Closing access to info tech." (Score:2)
Google cache (Score:3, Informative)
US-centric (Score:3, Interesting)
Is it simply that the site is US-centric, or are either of the following true:
(a) US is censoring more important stories than other countries
(b) US is involved in more issues than other countries
?
Re:US-centric (Score:3, Insightful)
Combine that with people's natural and understandable implicit trust of authority figures (ie, they are the most powerful, therefore they are good, no two ways about it)
Peoples need to believe in the 'goodness' of their authority
Come on....... (Score:5, Interesting)
While I would concede that we are into global hegemony and are little to quick to use force to solve our problems, this list a bit ridiculous. Take the following quote:
Excuse me, the US has zero to do with any of the civil wars in Africa. Zero. There are problems that can't be blamed on the US and the war in the Congo is one of them.The author of this article says:
Come on. That is outrageous. Africans are not babies, and we are not their irresponsible parents. I find talk like that extremely insulting to Africans as it suggests they are not as "advanced" as Western civilizations and cannot control themselves when presented with military technology.
Re:Come on....... (Score:3, Insightful)
You must be thinking of that other Rwanda. Not the one where the rivers ran with blood and bodies are still being found.
Apparently there's this whole big thing about America keeping the peace which would kinda suggest that you;
a) Stop selling them guns.
b) Stop giving them loans to buy the guns.
c) Stop accepting backchannel intelligence as an indicator that someone's your friend.
d) Do something constructive in Africa even if it d
Evidence? (Score:3, Interesting)
Let's see some evidence where American money or military has gone to Rwanda since the start of this civil war.
Do something constructive in Africa even if it doesn't have any oil.
What country do you live in, and what is it doing?
Personally I think it's pretty bloody obvious that there are some countries that cannot control themselves when guns are lying around.
I'd agree, but that 1.5 billion dollar figure to all of africa between 1950 and 1989 amounts to $40million per year
anti-American propaganda (Score:5, Insightful)
He says that the far right loves America the way a 4-year-old loves his/her Mommy - anyone who says anything bad about Mommy must be BAD!
On the other hand, there is the way the mother loves her 4-year-old son/daugher - realizing that nurturing and behavior modification are needed, loving the kid in spite of flaws and helping to correct them.
Perhaps the latter view doesn't apply to all of these items, but it is another point of view to apply toward criticism of America.
call it \. cause it leans to the left (Score:3, Funny)
There once was a time when people who were interested in jurnalism were interested in balance and truth, not pandering to their political supporters.
Re:call it \. cause it leans to the left (Score:2, Insightful)
Got it?
Re:call it \. cause it leans to the left (Score:3, Interesting)
Individualism vs. corporatism (Score:3, Interesting)
If I was going to compare slashdot to myself, then it is leaning so far to the left that it is horizontal. From now on I'll call it dashdot (-.).
On a more serious note, however, the labels "left" and "right" only tell part of the story. There is a second dimension of political philosophy that measures the degree of individualism supported by that philosophy. There are individualists and anti-individualists on both side
Top 25 censored stories by Project Censored (Score:2)
Here's the top 25 stories [google.com] censored by Project Censored.
Overheated Rhetoric (Score:5, Insightful)
one expatriate's opinion (Score:2, Insightful)
Just politics (Score:3, Insightful)
This looks to me like someone pushing their political agenda.
How does this stuff make it to front page of
A related site (Score:5, Informative)
Re:A related site (Score:3, Insightful)
Just from a front-page glance, I'd be willing to wager AiM and the featured PC site are really not all that related. AiM appears, from its headlines, to be a serious media watchdog site, whereas PC appears, from the many posts of the "top 25", to be a collective exercise in tinfoil-hat appreciation.
NPR programs to consider... (Score:2, Informative)
both are supperted by fiar.org [fair.org]
you can get a cool "Don't trust corporate medida" bumper sticker there...
Project Censored... (Score:2)
Yawn... (Score:4, Insightful)
Secondly, interesting the political bent of all of these stories. What about
* Where did all the UN Food for Oil money disppear to?
* How much business did France and Germany do with Iraq in violation of UN resolutions?
* How the "sactions are killing millions of Iraqi babies" stories were bogus.
* How much of the Arab and some European press were getting paid by Saddam.
mod parent up? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Yawn... (Score:3, Insightful)
The leftist slant of these "censored" stories was not hard to detect. Unlike yours, though, they were soundly based in REALITY. They were reported by press around the world but not widely picked up inside the US, because of media concentration, current pro-war sentiment, and government pressure. Really, it's not a pinko liberal conspiracy to take your SUV
Re:Yawn... (Score:3, Interesting)
Those dastardly Fox News conspirators! And apparently they now control the Associated Press too!
Lawmakers see abuses in Iraqi oil-for-food programs [sfgate.com]
The UN collected a commision on every barrel of Iraqi oil handled under the UN administered Oil-for-food program. That comes to something like $12 billion dollars total. But strangely enough, the money that
You fall in the same trap (Score:4, Insightful)
* Where did all the UN Food for Oil money disppear to?
Food for oil, I don't see much money in that deal. No money can't disappear.
* How much business did France and Germany do with Iraq in violation of UN resolutions?
None that I know of. Of course I have seen a lot of this crap on public forums or frog-bashing sites. But no report of those on any remotely reliable source, not even on Fox News (only exception is an op'ed column by William Safire in the NYT, which allegations have been denied by the US administration itself). Given the unusually aggressive stance the Bush administration has taken against those countries, I guess that any credible lead on that subject would have been leaked to the press in no time.
* How the "sactions are killing millions of Iraqi babies" stories were bogus.
Economic sanctions are a useful tool to destabilize a regime or prevent it from endangering its neighbours but you have to admit that the population ends up paying the highest price to them. It might eventually be worth the price (South African Apartheid regime) or not (Cuba comes to mind). In the case of Irak, I guess that the food for oil program somehow prevented the most severe famines but I don't know of hard facts. Do you have them?
* How much of the Arab and some European press were getting paid by Saddam
Come on! You're not saying that any media that voiced opinions differing from the official White House point of view were sold to Saddam, are you? And which countries do you target in "some European press". Given your post's general tone, I guess you include France and Germany. But what about Spain, England or Poland. Even though these countries participated in the "Coalition of the Willing", their press (and public opinion) were mostly opposed to the war. Do you think the Blair administration would not have noticed or would have allowed it if the BBC was paid by Saddam? Do you know that the BBC is state-owned?
This whole hate story between the US and some other countries is childish and now sickening, with so many people dying. IMHO, all of this is the consequence of over-reaction from the US coupled with underestimation of the 9/11 trauma by most foreign countries. Add a layer of really poor diplomacy from both sides and you get the current diplomatic mess.
These conspiration theories and aggressiveness from both sides are really NOT constructive. Americans must understand that the reason why some countries opposed the war is that they genuinely thought that it was a Bad Idea (TM) that would not cure terrorism and may generate new problems. This has nothing to do with hatred of America of some more sinister goals. On the other hand, I think that the US (even the neocons) genuinely thought that Saddam's demise would help fight terrorism and bring more countries toward democracy. Considerations such as world hegemony or oil are absurd or secondary. President Bush's style and personnality is also secondary in comparison to the primary goal of bringing stability to Iraq. IMHO, he's not a very good president but I'm not saying that because of a European or leftish stance : I personally think that John McCain would have done a better job than both Bush and Gore.
Sorry for that long post, I guess I had to write it down somehow. And a disclaimer : If you hadn't guessed it yet, I'm French.
Re:You fall in the same trap (Score:3, Interesting)
Food for oil, I don't see much money in that deal. No money can't disappear.
Well, you don't walk into a grocery store with 10 gallons of unleaded and trade it for food. Oil gets sold, money buys food, food goes to Iraq... or at least that's what was supposed to happen [opinionjournal.com]. The UN got a nice [sfgate.com] "administation [opinionjournal.com]" cut off the top, but no one seems to know exactly where those billions went. And as much as people like to point the finger at Haliburton and claim t
Uhh, they can't even link correctly. (Score:3, Insightful)
#15: Venezuela: Bush Administration Behind Failed Military Coup links to
#15 U.S. Military's War on the Earth
read it yourself here:
http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/200
one-sided (Score:3, Interesting)
I had to smile. Why is it not news, for example, that Egypt uses the same depleted uranium in the same way, the Abrams M1 tank's armor and the armor-piercing darts (Egypt produces these and is a receiver of U.S. financial and arms aid - and if you were wondering, no, Israel does not produce M1s, nor does it receive this technology from the U.S.). Yep, but that's Egypt, not so sexy as U.S., I guess.
69% Americas believe Saddam caused 9-11 (Score:5, Insightful)
The #1 Article (Score:5, Interesting)
Check out: http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmeric asDefenses.pdf [newamericancentury.org]
This has been quite disturbing to everyone I've talked to about it... My wife flat out refuses to talk to be about it because it makes so much sense and is so upsetting... This has gotten a lot of press lately. Check out:
911 and the Bush Administration [informatio...house.info]
The Guardian [guardian.co.uk]
Those with Weblogs should contribute to the weblog project mentioned on Metafilter about this:
WHO were you? [tnl.net]
Unfortunately, it just makes more sense that we provoked these arabic countries to either let us build a pipeline to feed China with Oil, or we would do it by force. "A carpet of Gold, or a carpet of Bombs..."
can read the "enemy's" news on the web (Score:3, Interesting)
Even with this unprecedented access, I still dont do this too often. You have to wade through a lot of local content and strange English. And the news everyone- in and out of the US- has a lot of ingrained editorializing which is grating after a while.
Another un-American liberal response (Score:5, Insightful)
First, as to the accusation that the site is somehow un-American (a coinage that seems to have discovered a new lease on life since 9/11) since many of the stories somehow involve US involvement in affairs that do not put us in a very glowing light I'd respond that given the United States' pre-eminence economically, politically and culturally you would be hard pressed to find a situation that through our active or passive involvement, we are not implicated in. For proof of how our passiveness affects other countries, read your history of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. Hussein communicated to the US ambassador an interest in seizing Kuwait. When the US offered no opposition or even statement of opposition, Hussein invaded. One wonders if Gulf War I could have been avoided had a clear message been sent to Iraq prior to the invasion of Kuwait. On the other side of that responsibility is our active involvement in international affairs. On that note, take a brief consideration of our historical actions in Iran and ask if the hostility towards the US there isn't at least in a nationalistic sense, well grounded.
As to the sentiment of un-American, this one statement can be reduced to nothing more than vitriol. I have personally been accused of being un-American and unpatriotic for at various times voicing my opposition to the policies of the current administration. Some reasonable people, who failed to call me unpatriotic before we attacked Iraq, called me that afterwards since I wasn't "supporting the troops." The very indictment is flawed and irrational. In the very essence of voicing my opposition to the opinion of the sitting President, I am acting responsibly AND patriotically. Responsibly, in that one should not grant assent to a leader just because he's in power and patriotically, in that I am upholding the very rights, which this country so magnanimously grants us. As any developer knows-critical thought is eminently fundamental to the development of any system. Political dialogue is critical thought on a peer to peer basis.
Finally, was the site's use of 'censored' the best choice? No, probably not. Under reported and under-represented by the major media outlets? Absolutely. Even liberal leaning old me had failed to hear about several of the items on their list. What should be kept in perspective is the fact that the site seeks to highlight the information that people may not have heard too much about from their traditional sources. Does Project Censored have a clear agenda? It would definitely appear so, but then ask yourself if Fox News doesn't as well. Or ABC, NBC, CNN, the New York Times, the Washington Post, ad inifinitum. When news became business, such a thing as objective journalism went away. Why else does just about everyone in the country know the name of Laci Peterson? Can you think of one prevailing reason why her victimization trumps the victimization of millions of other people around the world? As the Fox affiliate in Miami phrased it, "If it bleeds, it leads."
And at this point I am probably off-topic. I just felt that some contrary opinion was needed to balance the bulk of what I'd read. Immediate dismissals are just as culpable as the blind acceptance of what one's been told. If you disagree with a 'fact,' establish the reasons why without resorting to off the cuff retorts or invective filled denials. Rationally approach the problem and if you find it important enough to speak about, speak with at least a modicum of informed opinion. Or don't, and fill the ether with the tiny murmurs of blind assent and self-righteous denial.
What is wrong with being left wing? (Score:3, Interesting)
What a shame.
Wrapping a flag around one's face in blind patriotism and then running into a lamp post is not conducive to clarity of vision.
Re:The most BS filled report I've seen (Score:2)
Right up there with that loony who claims that the Earth isn't the center of the universe.
What are we going to do tonight ? (Score:3, Funny)
Cheney: The same thing we do every night, Dubbya.
Try to take over the world!
Re:The Biggest Underreported Story of All (Score:2)
I am. It's called Redhat.
"Justice will be done."
Yep, when you go out of business for trying to extort ppl into paying you for something that isn't yours.
"Scotty, one to beam up."
He has already beamed away any ethical standards you had. Or perhaps your referring to the fact your company is out of touch with reality...
Re:It's nothing but stupid propoganda. (Score:2)
Like who?
How about judging the information on it's own merits, rather than by some Cynics-R-Us blacklist?
Re:It's nothing but stupid propoganda. (Score:3, Interesting)
Although I've listened to Noam Chomsky, I think he has an axe to grind. I think anyone that uses the term 'Neocon' has an axe to grind.
Does this include neo-conservatives that refer to themselves that way? It's true [natreformassn.org] (sorry, no link to the actual article, but check the list of articles...).
Personally, as a Classical Liberal that is beginning to lean toward Classical Conservativism (i.e. liberalism), I believe the neo-cons have shifted the Republican party away from their libertarian roots and towards
Re:Here, Censored News = Liberal Conspiracy Theori (Score:5, Insightful)
As for Bush being evil and wanting to take over the world, his entire entourage (except for Colin Powell) are members of the Project for a New American Century. Have you read their goals? Primary plans are: Extending US influence in the Middle East by instigating regime change in several countries, starting with Iraq; and Undermining and reducing the effectiveness of the UN. All of this is because they feel they have a moral obligation to lead the world into a future that serves the interests of the US.
This is not a crazed leftist conspiracy either. It is the publically stated goal of the organisation that Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, et al. founded several years before Bush got into power.
Re:Here, Censored News = Liberal Conspiracy Theori (Score:3, Insightful)
I would submit to you that the leaders of the United States actually do have a moral obligation to lead the world into a future that serves the interest of the US.
The US government serving US interests?! Stop the fucking presses!
Re:Here, Censored News = Liberal Conspiracy Theori (Score:5, Insightful)
And the 19 hijackers that flew planes into the WTC and Pentagon two years ago liked the idea of making the world more like them. If you believe that the totality of your culture is superior to each and every other culture on the face of the Earth, then you will obviously want to make the rest of the world more like you. This does not mean, however, that the rest of the world is obligated to become more like you.
It's an interesting choice of words, by the way; "making" the rest of the world like us, as opposed to "helping" the rest of the world become more like us. The former implies force and compulsion, whereas the latter implies aid and assistance.
Also, can you understand why the "Project" guys might
I certainly would want to make sure that other peoples and nations who sincerely want help to reform their societies and governments gets whatever assistance they need, but I cannot support the (thoroughly bizarre) notion of "imposing freedom." America should lead by example, not by force. America should be respected and looked up to, not hated and feared. Nations and groups who actively decide to make an enemy of America should fear our capabilities, but the recent oderint dum metuant policy of this administration has gone far beyond that.
The PNAC's agenda is pretty transparent: a "New American Century", regardless of whether the recipients of said Century actually want it or not. And that's horribly, horribly wrong. If the underdeveloped world is to become more like America, it should be because it wants to become more like America, not because it's been forced to. If we have to resort to military force to spread our way of life, then we've taken a very long stroll down a very wrong road.
Re:Here, Censored News = Liberal Conspiracy Theori (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, as others have said, it's not about censorship, but about underreported stories. And when you see how the US press does it's "reporting" these days, it's no wonder why they are underreported. But don't take my word for it, Greg Palast is an american reporter (living in the UK), and he wrote the following in a recent book:
"I freely offered up to CBS this information: The office of the governor of Florida, Jeb Bush, brother of the republican presidential candidate, had illegally ordered the removal of the names of felons from voter rolls - real felons who had served time but obtained clemency, with the legal right to vote under Florida law. [...] The next day I received a call from the producer, who said, "I'm sorry, but your story didn't hold up." And how do you think the multibillion-dollar CBS network determined this? Answer: "We called Jeb Bush's office." Oh."
What it boils down to is that reporters generally don't bother to actually investigate and report anything anymore, they mostly just cut and paste from official press releases (there are exceptions, thank god, such as BBC news [bbc.co.uk]).
Anyways, what bothers me is that it is true - the neoconservatives want world domination. And they're not even trying to hide it. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and many other friends of Bush are part of a neo-conservative think-tank called the Project for a New American Century [newamericancentury.org]. To quote from the PNACs official website: "The Project for the New American Century is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle; and that too few political leaders today are making the case for global leadership."
There is an excellent, well-researched article [www.gnn.tv] on GNN [www.gnn.tv] by a former british member of parliament, Michael Meacher, on how Afghanistan and Iraq both are part of an PNAC plan on establishing a US presence in the middle-east to secure future oil-supplies. This plan was first described in a document, called Rebuilding America's Defences [newamericancentury.org], which was published by PNAC in september 2000.
I want you to just please read the article (it won't take more than 10 minutes of your time), and then tell me something's not going on here...
conspiracy? I'm a thinktank theorist. (Score:3, Insightful)
You're right that many Americans have heard this theory and rejected it. This is a bit surprising -- considering this 'conspiracy' has a website:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofpr i nc iples.htm
If t
Re:left-wing (Score:3, Informative)
At least in those countries, censorship is patently obvious. In the US (and Canada, to a lesser degree) censorship is simply hidden under the guise of private reporting by corporations and the myth that they're just practicing free speech. Most people assume that CNN, Fox, etc. are accurate because they aren't directly linked to the government and
Re:At least it proves the media isn't liberal (Score:3, Insightful)
Except that these are not news, they are lies & speculation (mostly the latter). Regardless of whether you think the "media" slants to the left or right, (or, *GASP* neither) they won't put out crap like this that has very little basis in fact.