China Blocks Spam Servers 250
clafarge writes "I just read in the AP's LiveWire that, as reported by Xinhua News Agency, China has blocked 127 mail servers which it identifies as major sources of spam. Oh, happy day. They also published a list of 225 spam servers around the world just last month."
Guess they're following through on
this.
Bah (Score:4, Interesting)
Didn't _see_ any spam, but the logs surely show 685 rejects from known previously spammed us IP's.
169 IP's made it known through various methods (ie: we don't KNOW anybody outside the US...) that they would probably spam us.
55 messages/IP's (slow day, typically a couple of hundred) were harvested from trap addresses.
To date I've had to unblock one (1) such IP at home (work is up to maybe a dozen now) that got caught in the traps. As email flows in, and not blocks, those IP's are reverse-harvested as OK. A problem child will become evident quickly. Damn, still trying to build the perfect mouse trap as a people, eh?
IP's that have made themselves KNOWN to be a problem for us? Up to 117,469,666 as of midnight tonight. Yeah -- that's 117 million IP's blocked. Only about 3% of the total ~3.9-4 billion IP's assignable.
127 mail servers. Bah -- child's play...
Oh -- and the number of spam's that I personally saw today? I think one, which the Mac highlighted for me and dumped it. I know the wife got worried her pecker must be too small a couple of times today...
Re:Bah (Score:5, Insightful)
Come on now. It's a start. If this helps other countries and ISPs to admit that unsolicited commercial email is a real problem, then this is good news. 127 mail servers today, several thousand tomorrow?
And to pre-emptively strike at those who claim that spam is "free speech" and only godless communist countries would block it:
No, unsolicited commercial email (aka "spam") is NOT free speech. The burden of storing received email falls squarely on the recipient, thus sending email is a privilege not a right. In the exact same way you don't have the right to call someone up as many times as you without it being harrassment.
Re:Bah (Score:4, Insightful)
You are right. Sending me email is a privilege, NOT a right. My bandwidth, heck my mail server, my network, my workstation, my time.
Just as it is not my right to view any web site I wish. Some are paid subscriptions, some require user info, some may just not want me view their info for whatever reason (browser type, thinks I'm an ass, or feels violated because I block their email -- whatever).
Bing - first spam of the day. Nothing there. Oops, bayesian eaten. It _was_ to the HOSTMASTER no less -- those absolute dumb idiots. What, that's not going to piss off the wrong people? rotflmao
Literally. Really. That's my "spam out" programming's name: rotflmao
NOW, recently, spam doesn't really bother or phase me. It's been more fun to watch their methods. Useeless attempts really. Fun to watch none the less. Yet -- I still get/send my email as "freely" as before.
Simple and effective rule: one strike and your OUT
Bah again (Score:2, Funny)
After all, if my penis grew by 100% overnight, I think my wife might complain :-)
Re:Bah (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Bah (Score:5, Insightful)
Why isn't spam free speech? What is free speech, anyway? Check this out:
http://www.spectacle.org/899/free.html
By definition:
Free speech: the right to express one's opinions publicly.
Re:Bah (Score:5, Insightful)
Free speech or DoS? (Score:2, Interesting)
Now, does the belief that my penis is to small count as opinion? what if the mail consists of the characters 'tretretrdytreye' - opinion? what about if the mail consists of a self-replicating Word macro. Is that an opinion? and would it be a restraint of free speech to turn macros off?
Not intended as a flame, but there are interesting gradations here. It could be argued that spam, like the pe
Re:Free speech or DoS? (Score:2)
Not intended as a flame, but there are interesting gradations here. It could be argued that spam, like the person who shouts 'fire!' in the movie theatre, is actually a DoS attack
BUt in both cases, what is punished (or should in the case of spam as it is in the case of fire in the theatre) is the action, not the speech. In other words, it is not illegal to shout fire in the theatre. It is illegal to incite a riot with intent to cause harm to people. Likewise, it is not illegal to write an email talki
Re:Bah (Score:5, Insightful)
Because there is no freedom to not listen to it. Free speech is something you can walk away from. Once the "speaker" follows you it's harassment.
TWW
Re:Bah (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Bah (Score:4, Insightful)
Indeed. My mailbox is not a public place. It is my private property. Spamming is like shouting your political opinions through my letterbox.
Free speech on your website - of course. Free speech on my private hard disk - certainly not.
Re:Bah (Score:3, Insightful)
Or, for that matter, someone who wants to advertise babysitting, pressure-washing, or other services by putting business cards or flyers on every mailbox in a neighborhood? Heck, I constantly get unsolicited menus from Chinese restaurants on my front door, and I'd consider my front door to be private property. And then
Re:Bah (Score:2)
What about people who pay nothing for their Internet connection - they only have to look at banner ads to support the service? Does spam cost them anything? What if the Internet became free for everyone. Would the spammers then have a right to send their junk?
Also, the cost of deleting the spam is similar to the cost of sorting through physical junk mail and flyers (tho
Comment removed (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Bah (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Bah (Score:3, Insightful)
Why isn't spam free speech? What is free speech, anyway?
Well lets look at it from a much simpler angle here
I have to pay to receive spam there for it cannot be free speech
END OF ARGUMENT
What exactly is so difficult for you people to understand?
Re:Bah (Score:4, Insightful)
Be that as it may. OTOH, does anybody honestly believe that this will not be used as yet another excuse for the Chinese authorities to suppress real, non-spam free speech?
Add spammer/open relay to the list containing out-of-the-blue accusations like "counter-revolutionary activity", "banditism" or "drug smuggling" and all those other capital offences.
It won't just be the widows of spammer scumbags that will be picking up the bodies of their loved ones at the police station after having payed for the one used rifle cartridge... I can imagine the name of the offence being the easily and arbitrarily applicable "counter-revolutionary computer banditism" or something along those lines.
Re:Bah (Score:2)
What if you don't pay? Do they shoot you? I can see a situation where an entire fdamily get wiped out and the Government is seriously out of pocket!
China Blocks Spam Servers (Score:5, Funny)
Re:China Blocks Spam Servers (Score:4, Funny)
Re:China Blocks Spam Servers (Score:2)
Being persecuted is not a pleasant experience, it was worth paying extra to feel safe. But this did result in an increased clannishness, and in increased tensions between the communities. It was during this period t
Re:China Blocks Spam Servers (Score:3, Insightful)
Of course, just because the bulk of my spam come
eh? (Score:4, Funny)
Wait, that doesn't sound right...
Nooooo! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Nooooo! (Score:2, Funny)
You have a breast account and a penis account?
Eww. Squishy.
Hard to decide, is it? (Score:5, Insightful)
Hard to see the world in slashdotter green-and-white, is it?
Being in China myself, I can't wait to see if this measure will block the 200+ spam emails I get every day. That would rock, evil-communist-empire-decree or not.
Re:Hard to decide, is it? (Score:5, Insightful)
People and countries can do both good and bad things.
Re:Hard to decide, is it? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Hard to decide, is it? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Hard to decide, is it? (Score:2)
Put it this way, would you go see a movie rated thumbs up by Ebert and thumbs down by Roeper? It's kinda like that.
Re:Hard to decide, is it? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Hard to decide, is it? (Score:2)
Bear in mind that Beijing's definition of "spam" may and probably varies widely with the definition commonly used on Slashdot. For example, consider what most Slashdotters think of when they hear the word "cult" (Scientology) and what Beijing wants people to think of (Falun Gong).
"Hard to see the world in slashdotter green-and-white, is it?
A quick trip to the games section [slashdot.org] should cure you of that.
Re:Hard to decide, is it? (Score:2)
Suit yourselves, China... (Score:5, Funny)
Are these *REALLY* spam IPs? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Are these *REALLY* spam IPs? (Score:2)
Sorry, I just can't see how pretty much the same comment is always insightful.
Re:Are these *REALLY* spam IPs? (Score:2)
We're all for an end to spam, which means we won't object very strongly to increased government monitoring and filtering of the Internet for purposes of ending spam.
Don't get me wrong -- I think that non-consensual e-mail is a form of assault, just like many other non-consensual activities. I just hate to solve the problem by government monitoring and filtering. I don't want a world where I need a government-issued photo id to get access to the p
Re:Are these *REALLY* spam IPs? (Score:2)
No. Good blacklists specifically target sources of spam, such as spam-friendly ISPs. They do not list a huge chunk of IP addresses pulled at random with the hope that some of them are spammers/spam-friendly ISPs.
Spam? Ri-iiiii-ight... (Score:4, Insightful)
If this is the list of servers they admit to blocking, just imagine what the list they aren't showing the world looks like.
Riiight. (Score:4, Interesting)
Spam, child porn, and terrorists seem to be the current Horsemen of the Infocalypse. A couple of the old favorites, money launders and drug dealers, don't get so much press these days.
New Democracy(TM) with Freedom(TM)! (Score:2)
(Not available in Florida.)
Re:Riiight. (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't think you got the memo. Due to the fact that terrorists have been known to launder money and deal drugs, all money launderers and drug dealers have now been reclassified as terrorists.
Ashcroft Logic (tm). It's easy when you know how!
Re:Riiight. (Score:2)
Er... You do realize it's CHINA we are talking about, right?
They don't exactly need a reason to do anything, and as you pointed out yourself, they already do it and are fine with it.
Re:Riiight. (Score:2)
Re:Riiight. (Score:2)
About the horsemen, I wanted to address this.
As soon as they said, "This joint helps pay for terrorism", I knew they were full of shit on everything. As for why it's not played out as much, I'm sure one of the press agents for Bush leaned over and said, "maybe we should let go of this foolish idea about the cash waterfall of dope flowing only to terrorism; I mean, sir... lots of dope is made by good upstanding Americans who just want to relax after a hard day of ass
Re:Riiight. (Score:2)
If I read the press release correctly, that's a part of the current definition of what qualifies a site to be blocked. They appear to have included those things as a part of their definition of spam.
Article Text (Score:4, Informative)
China Moves to Block Spam Servers
The Associated Press
Tuesday, September 9, 2003; 11:47 AM
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In its latest battle against junk e-mail, China has blocked 127 mail servers it identified as responsible for spam, the official Xinhua News Agency said Tuesday.
"This has been the first large-scale spammer blockade launched by the Chinese Internet industry," Ren Jinqiang, an official with the Internet Society of China, was quoted by Xinhua as saying.
The crackdown came as Chinese Internet users complained they were being bombarded daily with hundreds of junk e-mails, Xinhua said.
Ren said e-mail messages from 127 servers will automatically be refused. Xinhua said the sanctions would be lifted after the servers stop sending junk mail for three months.
Ninety of the blocked servers were from Taiwan, eight were from the mainland and 29 were from elsewhere, Xinhua said, without providing other details. It did not say if other countries were being inundated by spam from the same servers.
Internet service providers in the United States and elsewhere sometimes resort to blocking specific servers in their war on spam. Those efforts succeed in curbing the number of junk messages reaching subscribers, though they can kill legitimate e-mail as well.
Ren said the blacklist resulted from a month of monitoring by the state-run Internet Society of China, a group of 140 members drawn from private companies, schools and research institutes. The Beijing-based group aims to promote the development of the Internet throughout the country.
Last month, the group published a list of 225 spam servers around the world.
With 68 million users, China has the world's second-biggest online population after the United States, according to government statistics.
Internet use for business and education is encouraged, although the communist government censors chat rooms and tries to block access to foreign sites run by dissidents, human rights groups and news organizations.
Close but still missing the mark... (Score:4, Interesting)
Spammers will ALWAYS find a way to send their unwanted garbage around until SMTP is upgraded/replaced with something more secure.
If China really cares, they need get Chinese companies to stop hosting these asswipes.
Try complaining to the right people. (Score:5, Interesting)
I managed to get a Viagra shill site yanked. That happened after a mail filter misconfiguration caused over 4000 e-mails to be sent to to the host (china-netcom.com)
I've heard that people have had some results by CCing their complaints to every known Chinese ambassador contact address:
chinaemb_in@mfa.gov.cn, secretary@chinaembassy.nl,political@chinaembassy.
Some ambassadors are about to be 'Ralskied' (Score:2)
Re:Some ambassadors are about to be 'Ralskied' (Score:2)
Re:Try complaining to the right people. (Score:2)
Dude... That's a lot of VERY powerful people you're trying very hard to piss off...
I hope you're not planning a vacation to the PRC for the next 10 years...
Re:Try complaining to the right people. (Score:2)
Partial agreement here. I prefer to limit governmental CCs to the sending & receiving nations [iiehongkong.org]. It doesn't make sense to involve Sweden in China-USA spam, for example. Here's a combined reformatted guaranteed opt-in list:
chinaemb@012.net.il, embchina@adetel.net.mx, china-embassy@bluewin.ch, info@china-embassy.or.jp, webmaster@chinaconsulate.org.nz, admin@chinaconsulatela.org, commerce@chinaconsulatela.org, educati
Re:Close but still missing the mark... (Score:5, Insightful)
Nevermind that ~70%+ of the spam sites I have been reporting are HOSTED in China. I had complained countless times to the Chinese whois contacts without positive result.
Here's maybe something you want to know.
We have been asked recently to help figure out network and server problems by two companies (one travel agencies, one of the fastest growning in China, one textile company), and two government agencies.
All were complaining that their network is slow, even during the evening when nobody's using, and they don't know why. These people are not in the business of managing networks and servers. Their system has been built up by patching here and there as the needs come up. Their email servers are very old software developed american companies (ah well).
They brought us in to do diagnostic. We took a look, and the network usage is at 90% during non-working hours. We took closer look, and found that the email server and a few machines were sending out tons of messages. We traced again, and found that 5 to 6 (in each company and in each agency) machines have been owned, and are sending out spam (!) using the local email server. Well duh....
Then we stayed up about two evenings trying to see if someone will log in. Sure enough, the spammer logged in, and uploading new spam message. We traced their IP, and here's what we found: one from Indianna (US), one from Texas (US again), one from Florida (US again), the last one from Mexico.
So, what do you think?
You can blame the Chinese for relaying spam or for not securing their network/server, but these are the people who are trying to cope with the growth of their business, and have no expertise to handle this security issue. I bet a lot of SMEs in America have the same problem too.
And if you want to fix the spam problem, shouldn't you fix the root problem first?
Re:Close but still missing the mark... (Score:4, Interesting)
Many companies in China do the absolute minimum to set up their computers, and to connect them to a local ISP. Firewalls, applying security patches, locking down systems, and other basic sysadmin functions are ignored because the companies directors don't know any better. Most of the press about hacking, spam, security and other problems are in English, very little of that makes it into the local papers and in the local language. So the problem will just continue until American prosecutors go after the criminals in the U.S. breaking into computers physically in other countries.
2bits, did you contact the abuse people at the upstream ISPs in the US and Mexico? Did you send them a detailed report of a criminal activity, breaking into your machines and stealing all your bandwidth? Did you do your part to help get these spammers off the internet, or did you just take money from your clients and not fix the problem.
Its not that difficult to get into the machines spammers are using, they tend to install pirated copies of PCAnywhere or BackOrifice, and not bother with passwords. So then you can check back and see where the spammers are, and mostly they are in the U.S. The biggest problem right now is getting US authorities to file charges against the spammers, because a real cyber-crime case is actually very difficult to prosecute, and the prosecutors tend to be very technophobic.
I gave up a long time ago trying to provide evidence to US Attorneys General to shut down spammers, and many spam fighters are turning to vigilantism now to chase the spammers from the net. Even
the AC
Re:Close but still missing the mark... (Score:2)
> This is the main reason China and Korea seem to be the origin of most spam, owned machines.
Spoken like a dude who's forgotten how long it's been since he blocked 12.0.0.0/8 (attbi.com), 24.0.0.0/8 (rr.com and other cable modem providers), and wide swaths in 64.0.0.0/8 and 66.0.0.0/8 for the rest of the North American cablemodem and DSL providers.
> Most of the spammers, probably more than 90%, are physically in the United States, but they crack machines in other coun
Re:Close but still missing the mark... (Score:2)
Some ISPs do worse. I've had spam directly deposited into my inbox. No 'received from' headers at all.
Re:Close but still missing the mark... (Score:2)
I'm sorry; living in China, I find your statement very funny.
The day a single man complaining to China makes a difference is the day I push the Earth out of orbit by sneezing.
Re:Close but still missing the mark... (Score:2)
Wrong. Spammers will ALWAYS find a way to send unwanted garbage around even if SMTP is upgraded/replaced with something more secure.
Think about it - how would increasing the "security" of the mail protocol stop someone from sending something that the recipient doesn't want?
Whitelisting? Destroys email altogether. (Part of the power of email is that anyone can send mail to a
The list? (Score:4, Interesting)
GNP (Score:2)
good or evil, that's the question (Score:3, Insightful)
Here in Austria most ISP have Spam filters, but it is up to you if you use them or not, and I pesonally have my own customized Spam filtering. I my opinion gouvernment controlled AntiSpam solutions produce too many false positives to be useful, and especially in this case, it looks like censoring mail, all under the cloak of "protecting" the people from unwanted spam
Fortune Cookies (Score:4, Funny)
Future Assassin [futureassassin.com]
90 Taiwanese servers blocked.. (Score:5, Interesting)
Now we see the real agenda here. This is just another round of annoyances that China is imposing on Taiwan. Nothing to see here, no real spam blocking, just more propoganda.. or perhaps (tin foil hat on) they are blocking political messages/organizations from Taiwan and elsewhere?
I think that is actually more likely.
-molo
Re:90 Taiwanese servers blocked.. (Score:2, Funny)
+1 Actual LOL (Score:2)
Wow... I never thought I'd see anyone make an intelligent "In soviet russia" style joke, especially on
Congradualtions, +1 Vitrual Mod Point for you
Good to know, but... (Score:2, Interesting)
That's in contrast to efforts to contact the named administrators of a given block of IP addresses in other countries. Not always responsive but it's been known to happen which creates a contrast.
Good to know they'll try to quash what they see as SPAM when it affects themselves. Be
Only 127? (Score:5, Funny)
No, No, No!!! (Score:4, Interesting)
Effective solutions to the problem of spam will need much more sophisticated approaches than just blocking based on the content of email headers. I have read some proposals, but none yet that seem both effective and easy to implement.
Re:No, No, No!!! (Score:4, Informative)
"Received" lines are written by the receiving email system and can't be forged by the sender. Of course the spammer can use some tricks like inserting faked "Received" lines oder the recipient's IP address as HELO string, but no spammer can hide the IP address the spam has been sent from. And these IP addresses will get blocked.
A shame (Score:2, Funny)
A whole 127 Servers? (Score:3, Funny)
Mnem
"It takes a special man to water his lawn with an eyedropper."
Only 127? (Score:4, Funny)
Damn, they should've used an unsigned char. They could've closed 255 instead of only 127. Or they could've used an int and closed 2,147,483,647.
I don't think an unsigned int, nor a long long would've been necessary.
Re:Only 127? (Score:2)
Oh No *sniff* (Score:4, Interesting)
But where will I get my viagra? How can I loose those extra inches I dont' want and gain the stronger thicker inches I have been promised? How will I ever live longer without my supply of DHEA - or how will I ever find term life insurance or a good mortgage rate?
*end tongue in cheek mode*
*begin rant*
Any help is appreciated - but I'm afraid that unless you take the consequences to the spammer out of the cyber world and put it into the real world nothing will stem the flow of SPAM. For example; when a spammer is hurt in his/her-> it's pocket book, or they get jailed with a large inmate who calls them "my personal love chicken", then and only then will they stop. I favor baseball bats and the angry mob approach, your mileage may vary.
Pressure must continue to be exerted on ALL spammers and their customers. Lets face it China did this because enough mail providers had blackholed the entire continent of china and chinese business men were resorting to hotmail/some other method to communicate and it cost them MONEY. It took the consequences out of the cyber world, and put them into the real one.
*end rant*
Does anyone still accept mail from China? (Score:4, Insightful)
Why don't they just make it a crime to run an open mail relay? I mean - you can get locked up in China for reading a web page why not increase the scope to running an unsecured mail relay?
Re:Does anyone still accept mail from China? (Score:4, Insightful)
I think most people have something like "DENY * FROM *.cn" in their firewalling / mail filtering (including probably many people in China)..
Hehe, guess what, most chinese portals (Sohu, Sina, china.com,
Our company is in Shanghai, but our email server is hosted in America. Our mails (very legit, I assure you) get bounced with the error message explicitly stated that the IP of our email address is not in Asia. This "feature" is activated only in the last two weeks or so.
That's nasty for us, because a lot of customers (again, all legits) are using their email at those portals, just like a lot of people in America use yahoo, hotmail and aol for their business emails.
If you have customers in China now, and they are your bread and butter, I bet you wouldn't think blocking the IPs of a whole continent is very nice.
Naive (Score:5, Insightful)
No, I'm not arguing that spam is "free speech". I hate it as much as anybody, and I'd kill for a simple solution to it. But if you believe in free speech, you do not want any kind of central authority controlling who is allowed to send email.
Spam is a problem because individual recipients have no control over who can send them email. The only solution is some kind of digital certificate system, so a spammer can't establish a new identity simply by opening creating -- or forging -- a new email address. Any anti-spam measure that isn't based on recipient control, not server control, is going to be both ineffective and dangerous to civil liberties.
That won't block any SPAM from my inbox (Score:4, Informative)
blocking
>eight were from the mainland
wow! 8 servers from
leaves how many still open ? 2^24 ? more ? less ?
>and 29 were from elsewhere,
that surely will save us from lots of spam NOT
nice of them to tell all the world that thy block 127 servers from sending mail to THEM, but i am afraid that won't save the whales or the rain forrest in the very near future
Let Communism Work for You! (Score:2)
I'm not so sure I like the idea of the Chinese going haywire blocking spam sites, even if spammers are evil, and even if our mail servers have most netblocks registered in China blocked to start out with. As several other posters hint at, free and unfettered access to information is a good thing, and something that can only help Chinese (and every other society)--if the government is encouraged to start blocking sites, I can see the potential for abuse. Not like they do that sort of thing already.
What I
They wont know what they're missing (Score:3, Interesting)
Here's The Blacklist (Score:5, Informative)
Here's the list of 29 banned addresses outside the Mainland and Taiwan:
1. 200.84.154.28 dC8549A1C.dslam-01-1-2-01-01-01.acr.dsl.cantv.net 2. 24.29.146.158 (RoadRunner) 3. 64.15.239.131 mail.bigfoot.com 4. 65.54.247.110 bay2-f110.bay2.hotmail.com 5. 66.218.66.101 n33.grp.scd.yahoo.com
6. 66.218.66.103 n35.grp.scd.yahoo.com 7. 66.218.66.106n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com 8. 66.218.66.66 n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com 9. 66.218.66.72 n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com 10. 66.218.66.73 n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com
11. 66.218.66.77 n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com 12. 66.218.66.80 n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com 13. 66.218.66.84 n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com 14. 66.218.66.92 n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com 15. 66.218.78.131 web40514.mail.yahoo.com
16. 207.199.160.40 (Crosslink, US) 17. 216.33.121.8 www01.rfaweb.org 18. 195.147.87.107 ip03.afrocari.adsl.gxn.net 19. 80.49.187.11 pd11.ostroleka.sdi.tpnet.pl 20. 61.41.62.138 (Mobile Leader, Korea) 21. 203.251.44.102 (Taejon, Korea)
22. 210.121.220.77 (Woosung, Korea) 23. 211.186.145.100 (Thrunet, Korea) 24. 211.198.226.96 (Korea Telecom) 25. 211.206.199.2 (Sunchunac, Korea)
26. 202.144.67.19 (Satyam Infoway, India) 27. 193.162.153.2 (Tele Danmark) 28. 24.81.222.210 h24-81-222-210.vc.shawcable.net 29. 202.163.130.7 (Online Training, Australia)
The ultimate SPAM-filter!! (Score:2, Funny)
(This is not a joke! He really does reject all
Re:The ultimate SPAM-filter!! (Score:2)
What "Blocking" really means (Score:5, Interesting)
Unfortunately, I'd guess that almost all of those sites are sending spam in Chinese. I get very little of that - almost all the spam I get from China is in English, though there does seem to be less of it than there used to be.
Spam from Florida. (Score:5, Interesting)
Come on, guys, everybody knows that the spam capital of the world is the beautiful Boca Raton, Florida: in spanish [gsmbox.com] and in english [guardian.co.uk].
China ha nothing to do with this.
Now... (Score:3, Interesting)
open proxy list (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:open proxy list (Score:2)
Great news (Score:3, Interesting)
I've been using Spamcop on my personal accounts for a while now, and blocking all email from China, Brazil, Argentina, etc. Analysing the held queue now and again, it was amazing how much of this crap was coming out of China.
Guess it shows that if enough organisations are prepared to ignore their torrents of junk, things start to happen.
Lawyer for Spammers Tries To Drop Suit (Score:2, Informative)
The shyster representing the spammer's org tried to drop his frivolous case. Spamhaus won't let him! Not unless he pays legal fees! Aritcle in today's Wired.
Oh, the URL above, a post by head of Spamhaus, lists the home address of the shyster's atty:
MARK E FELSTEIN
2207 S CAROLINA AVE 22
TAMPA, FL 33609
Sorry no email address provided. Sure would be a shame if someone got mad at him
0 spam mails in my hotmail inbox today! (Score:2)
This is the way to end spam (Score:2)
It is too bad the USA and Russia couldnot get a clue here, and China has to lead the way. The solution to ending spam has always been simple, but the US admins/govt keeps throwing up their hands. he way to do it is
1) make spamming in the USA completely illegal, worth jailtime in federal pound-me-in0the-ass prison.
2) make it mandatory for border routers to block all traffic to and from servers on a black hole list which any network which is the origin of spam automatically gets added to.
If ISPs find out
Re:Double Whammy (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Double Whammy (Score:5, Funny)
I'd probably use that as an IQ test for ya. You see, as an average Slashdotter, there are a few simple ways to guage somebody's entire intelligence quotient.
- Did he distinguish beteen Canada and the United States?
- Did he refrain from using smilies or internet shorthand?
- Did he use apostrophe's correctly?
- Does he praise Linux and Mozilla?
- Did he correctly spell all the words in his post, especially the long ones that people rarely use?
- Does he hate George Bush?
If any of these questions are answered no, then your IQ is zilch!
Don't take it personally, I'm just going with the flow!
Re:Double Whammy (Score:2)
Re:First They Came For The Spammers... (Score:4, Insightful)
Spam is theft of service and trespass to chattel. It is a crime where there is a clear victim and clear damages. In file-trading the damage is much less tangible and with white-hat hacking it's nonexistent.
Re:Outlook 2k3 (Score:2)
Re:Too bad! (Score:2)