Ireland To Check EVerything

ncostigan writes "The Irish Times is running a story on new legislation proposal where detailed personal data on every Irish citizen's phone and mobile calls, faxes, and e-mail and Internet usage will be retained for up to four years under a new Department of Justice Bill, Officials within the Department of Justice are understood to be seeking a legal regime similar to that mandated by Britain's controversial Regulation of Investigatory Powers (RIP) Act. This 'timely' announcement just after a blackhat security conference hivercon held in Dublin this week had described similar draconian messures proposed in other EU states."

Messures?

[pocra]

That's not how you spell "monsieurs"!

Emails for comment submission

[Tayto]

You should be an Irish citizen if possible, but I'm sure they'll consider reasoned and balanced mails from people from other jurisdictions.

Irish Department of Justice Contact Page [justice.ie]
I'm not sure which department this bill would come under, so [e-mail] is a general catch-all for comment submissions.

I'm sure they'll also appreciate mails to
Department of Justice, 72-76, St. Stephens Green, Dublin 2, Ireland.

Please note the words reasoned and balanced :-)

Damnit...

[hitzroth]

This kind of behavior makes me want to get piss drunk and beat the shit out of someone.

"Yes, look at the way everyone else in our corner of the world is subduing the rights of the people to be free from unreasonable search and siezure. We must do the same."

The only good that can possibly come of this is the new storage techniques which would be needed to keep available the ginormous ammount of data for four years. But the twelve seconds that it would take to come up with a solution and the half an hour it will be interesting don't compare to what it does to privacy rights.

Good times. Not moving to Austrailia, Denmark, or Ireland. I'm thinking Andorra. Little place on the border between Spance and Frain, minimal taxation, libertarian-capitalist-esque government. With skiing. Paradise.

Re:Damnit...

[Trane Francks]

The parent is currently modded to "funny," but I'd have to categorize it as terrifying. Or maybe it was just funny as in "nervous laugh." You know, the same sort of laugh you have when reacting to the glint of a sharp blade in a deserted alley.

So many freedoms are being tossed out the window in many countries these days. A nervous laugh is simply not an appropriate reaction.

Re:Damnit...

[hitzroth]

I have to admit that I'm confused about your reply. Do you belong to the group of people who thing that seriousness is the only way to deal with serious issues?

What are your options when confronted with "the glint of a sharp blade in a deserted alley"? Run, fight, try to defuse the situation if you can't run or fight. Break the tension and people tend to think a little more clearly.

Anyway, I'd have figured the racist slur in the first line would have been the most offensive thing in my post.

Not that it's relevant to this post but I like your music, by the way.

Re:Damnit...

[Trane Francks]

I have to admit that I'm confused about your reply. Do you belong to the group of people who thing that seriousness is the only way to deal with serious issues?

No, it's just that upon reading your rather thought-provoking post, I didn't find anything funny about it whatsoever. I would be surprised were I to find out that I was the only one who felt that way. My reply was a comment re: the modding of the post and why I felt it was inappropriate.

Note well that I agree that it should be modded up, just not that it was funny. IMO, YMMV and all that rot.

Not that it's relevant to this post but I like your music, by the way.

My most gracious thanks. I truly appreciate it.

for money for the guys

[martin]

who make SANs / hard disks etc..... :-)

Terrorist organisation

[totierne]

The only option is to set up terrorist cells openly and decide to act iff they do not pick you up. see Minority Report.

Seriously though: First they came after the 'terrorist' and I did not speak because I did not realise they defined me as a 'terrorist'.
--
http://www.geocities.com/totiern e/4_minutes.html
Exaggerate: moi?

Double Standard?

[glenstar]

Why is no one as outraged at this story as they are at the story [slashdot.org] just below it?

I mean, basically Ireland (along with the US) is doing something very similar to what China is doing, but we kind of let that slide. Why? Seriously, I am curious...

follow up

[ncostigan]

as a follow up. most of the major irish news networks have carried headlines to the backlash to this story. it did make front page news to a country historically allergic to civil liberties breaches. the justice minister responsible has been backtracking most of the day. lets see where it takes us.

Not too surprised

[DamienMcKenna]

Most of the Irish legislators spend their days keeping an eye on what Britain does, then they wait a few years for the Brit's laws to be proven to be detrimental to society, and then they introduce them in Ireland. They've done that with education for years, it was only a matter of time before they did it with IT too.

Time to send my parents PGP...

Damien
(Irish ex-pat living in the US)

Early Days Yet, This Just Sounds Like Bluster

[trevry]

The government in this country just don't know what they are doing. Like most of the things in this country it probably started life over lunch in Leinster House or Merrion Square. This plan will be shot down or used to distract from other more insidious projected amendments. Microsoft must have learned their FUD from the Irish government. They've been been doing it for 50 years.
Anyways it would have to be passed in Europe first and it would only be enforceable after a trip to the court of European Human Rights...
Course, we are the country that voted twice on EXACTLY the same referendum.
Heh, Kuroshin should cover that, Ireland, where the government likes it's people to say yes.
If we don't they'll keep asking until we do...