England Salutes 150 Years of Eccentric Patents 259
jonerik writes "Want to patent a moustache protector? Or perhaps you've hit upon the idea of improving chickens' lives by giving them eyeglasses. Well, don't bother - they've already been invented. The BBC has this piece today on the bizarre ideas that have trickled into the U.K. Patent Office on a regular basis since it opened 150 years ago this month. Other doozies which are saluted are a rifle fitted into a helmet, 'the recoil [of which] broke a man's neck during early trials' and the parachute hat. According to Steve van Dulken, who oversees the patent archive at the British Library, 'For every 100 applications lodged, I'd say that 10 are a bit whacky.'"
Well I'm glad to know that someone (Score:5, Funny)
1. Steal underwear
2. Get wacky Brittish Patent
3. Profit!
Of course.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Of course.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Of course.... (Score:4, Insightful)
How to make your car more efficient... (Score:5, Funny)
My favourite is the patent about attaching a wind turbine to the roof of your car to take advantage of a resource that, otherwise, goes completely to waste :-)
Not a bad idea? (Score:2)
I was actually thinking of this whilst noticing a bicycle wheel spinning quite quickly - probably due to air flow (on a hitch behind the vehicle, where wind is not really significant. I've been considering designing a fan/capacitor array to generate power and seeing how much it would make, any reasons why this shouldn't work?
Re:Not a bad idea? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Not a bad idea? (Score:2)
Re:Not a bad idea? (Score:2)
It will cost you at least as much in drag as you will generate from those turbines. You will be much better off just sticking a dynamo somewhere along the transmission. It will still cost you in power but won't be as inefficient as those turbines.
Use existing drag-points (Score:2)
Because the power generated will be less than the power required to overcome the drag.
If you read my original post, you will see that I was talking about using turbines, etc at points where drag is already there, so adding something to take advantage of it probably won't add to it overly.
Unless you've got a superstreamlined nearly drag-free car. Mine's an 88 Corolla, old boxy design, the front end catches wind like a reverse sail at times...
Second law of slashdot: read the damn post fully, think a few times, then hit "Submit" - phorm
Re:How to make your car more efficient... (Score:2)
This has nothing to do with "catching drag", it's more about giving the engine a better way to breathe.
Because you are burning fuel, the drag induced by the hood-scoop will in most cases be overcome by the higher output from a richer fuel mixture.
The inactive scoops on some cars today (such as the Mustang) add drag without actually doing anything. These scoops are just for looks and are not actual intake vents.
The active scoops on very few cars (such as the Camaro SS) are good for about 10-15 extra horsies. Since I have owned a 99 Camaro Z28, and now own a 2000 Camaro SS, I can personally testify that the ram air does create a little more power, though not enough to really notice unless you're intentionally testing the car for the difference. Also, I've noticed the results are best when the air is cool and moist.
England != UK != GB (Score:5, Informative)
Re:England != UK != GB (Score:3, Funny)
Thats right, scots are puffters that'll lift their skirts at you!
Re:England != UK != GB (Score:2)
I can vouch for that!
This site clears this topic up quite nicely (Score:2)
http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/home/scotland/britain.htm
Etymologies (Score:2)
Britain is from the Welsh name for Wales-- "Prydain" (pro: PRU-dain). Etym is O. W. Prydain -> L. Britanium -> Mid. Eng: Britaygne (however you want to spell it). -> Mod. Eng. Britain.
UK is short for "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland."
As for those wacky English, though-- I have a cousin near London who says that Oracle owns a mansion near there with a sizable park around it. He imagines that someone from Oracle US told some one from Oracle UK that "We need to buy some real estate: and so they went and bought a real estate...
Re:England != UK != GB (Score:2)
Rutland forever!
TWW
Great Britain ... (Score:3, Interesting)
This is the reason we have a Great Britain team at the olympics, the Northern Irish are part of the Eire team.
In summary:
Re:Great Britain ... (Score:2)
Bollocks. Absolute bollocks.
Great does mean large, but that is because there is a "small Britain" otherwise known as Lesser Britain.
Do you know where it is?
Hint: Isn't it strange that there is a place in Northern France called "Brittany"?
Re:England != UK != GB (Score:4, Funny)
For instance, I live in New York. No, not New York City. There's a whole state called New York, only a small fraction of which (area-wise, that is -- about 50% population-wise) consists of New York City. But try and explain that to people who don't live in the Northeast US, never mind people who live in other countries. To them, "New York" is just one giant superdense concrete-and-glass jungle.
No, I do not ride the subway to work. No, I do not worry about being mugged every day. No, I do not live in a high-rise building. No, I didn't vote for Mike Bloomberg; I'm not allowed to, only NYC residents are. Get it?
"the wake" and "dead ringer" (Score:4, Interesting)
the phrase "dead ringer" has a similar origin: they'd set up a bell above ground and tie a string or something to it when they buried someone, who could ring the bell and alert everyone that they would like to be dug up as they weren't dead . . .
invention: air tight coffins is the answer! (Score:5, Interesting)
If you weren't dead when you were put in, You were by the time your body arrived home!
Re:invention: air tight coffins is the answer! (Score:2, Informative)
Of course, the run of the mill soldier was still shipped in the pine box. This treatment was afforded to the officers and exceptional 'war heroes'.
Re:invention: air tight coffins is the answer! (Score:3, Funny)
Just tell them it was a war injury.
"Damned Confederates used one of them nasty acid cannons on him, Mam."
Re:"the wake" and "dead ringer" (Score:1)
Re:"the wake" and "dead ringer" (Score:3, Funny)
If only Screech was prematurely buried, then the luscious Kelly would be mine AT LAST!
Re:"the wake" and "dead ringer" (Score:3, Funny)
- Having an artery in your shoulder exposed and used to pump formaldehyde and methanol through your system
- Having a cannula stuck down your throat to aspirate the contents of your lungs and stomach and replace them with embalming fluid
- Having that same cannula inserted into your rectum for the same purpose
- Being chilled at 33 for a day or two
would probably finish you.
Re:"the wake" and "dead ringer" (Score:2)
I didn't think it was necessary - the use of the word "chilled" next to the temperature reading should've implied that 33 degrees is a colder-than-normal state. Now I know better... that being an intermediate superlative to "good". Maybe I should say "Now I know more good." um.. "At this time, now I am aware..."
aww screw it.
(To the first person to bring up the Kelvin scale: One does not use the term "degrees Kelvin" or the symbol when referring to the K scale. Thanks though)
Re:"the wake" and "dead ringer" (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:"the wake" and "dead ringer" (Score:5, Informative)
Waking the dead is an ancient custom that extends around the world and has existed in Europe for at least the past thousand years. The term refers to the practice of watching over the corpse during the period between death and burial. Partly, this had to do with making sure someone was always around in case the corpse woke up (see our Buried Alive page for numerous stories about premature interments), but the watchers were also there to make sure household animals and assorted vermin were kept off the deceased.
Saved by the bell is a 1930s term from the world of boxing, where a beleaguered fighter being counted out would have his fate delayed by the ringing of the bell to signify the end of the round. Need we mention that although fisticuffs were around in the 1500s, the practice of ringing a bell to end a round wasn't?
Likewise, dead ringer has nothing to do with the prematurely buried signalling their predicament to those still above ground -- the term means an exact double, not someone buried alive. Dead ringer was first used in the late 19th century, with ringer referring to someone's physical double and dead meaning "absolute" (as in dead heat and dead right).
Re:"the wake" and "dead ringer" (Score:2)
i still think it'd be fun to wake up at my funeral now that nobody expects it :)
Re:"the wake" and "dead ringer" (Score:2)
During the Great Depression he took a job as a Hearst driver for a funeral company. (Like what programmers are doing now.)
Near an intersection he had to break kind of hard to stop at a sudden red light. The corpse in the back popped up and forward due to the abrupt deceleration. My grandfather looked in the rear view mirror and was startled to see a corpse staring right at him.
"I have never been so freaked out in my entire life!", he understandably said.
Lesson: Break gentally in a Hearst.
When I see the physics books that say, "A body in motion will stay in motion", I tend to interpret "body" *literally* after hearing that story.
Sometimes email forwards are bad sources (Score:2)
From The American Heritage Dictionary [bartleby.com]:
"ETYMOLOGY: Middle English wakien, waken, from Old English wacan, to wake up and wacian, to be awake, keep watch; see weg- in Appendix I."
The word "wake" is just related to the word "watch" and has to do with a vigil and essentially doing the same kind of thing we do nowadays at a wake.
Oh, I see! So that's why a "dead ringer" is someone who looks just like someone else!... er huh?
From takeourword.com [takeourword.com] (as well as other places that aren't email forwarded urban legends):
"The term dead ringer is one of the terms which means 'lookalike'. It dates in writing from about 1891 and arose from ringer 'a horse entered fraudulently in a race'. It is thought that ringer came from the British expression ring in 'to substitute or exchange fraudulently' (1812). Some believe that ring in is related to ring the changes 'to substitute counterfeit money in various ways', a pun on ring the changes 'go through all the variations in ringing a peal of bells.' The dead in dead ringer is probably the same as that in dead heat or dead on, i.e., it means 'exact'."
I feel like the Internet has really caused word etymology urban legends to flourish in the past few years.
Re:Sometimes email forwards are bad sources (Score:2)
the meaning of the word "wake" is a different thing from the tradition of the wake at funerals. if someone actually finds something credible that says the wake never had anything to do with seeing if the presumed dead person would wake up (the other post actually DID say that this was part of the wake), i would be very interested!
as for "dead ringer," i never thought that made sense and probably shouldn't have posted that considering i never believed it either. also, i don't read e-mail forwards (actually anything with fwd: or fw: gets trashed before i see it) and heard this from a friend (who very well may have read it in an e-mail forward).
Re:"the wake" and "dead ringer" (Score:2)
When they drink they would use lead cups and drink ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock them out for a couple of days! They would be walking along the road and here would be someone unconscious and they thought they were dead, so they would pick them up and take them home and get them ready to bury. They realized if they were too slow about it, the person would wake up; also, maybe not. So they would lay them out on the kitchen table for a couple of days, the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. That's where the custom of holding a "wake" came from.
A funny one indeed.. (Score:2, Funny)
One click electronic buying, oh wait..
New patent (Score:1)
Why not? (Score:2, Funny)
From the article
It must have seemed like a great idea at the time: an alarm to be fitted inside a coffin, just the thing to guard against premature burials.Why is this a bad idea now?
Re:Why not? (Score:2)
Tim
dumb patents (Score:1, Informative)
More can be found here [forbes.com], here [informationweek.com] and here [informationweek.com].
If you have the money, you can claim anything as your own.
Britain patents, The first Bra... (Score:5, Funny)
Correction: I should say, Just exactly how to get near the damn things.
Re:Britain patents, The first Bra... (Score:2, Funny)
Gosh. There must be some female geeks out there with really smelly underwear by now. And don't get me started on the cross-dressers...
Re:Britain patents, The first Bra... (Score:2)
Ooh, thats easy, laundrettes, lingerie stores, etc.
Re:Britain patents, The first Bra... (Score:5, Funny)
Let's invent the Remote-Control Bra. Even if we don't get to touch them, at least we can see them with a little bit of hacking.
And, Imagine a Beowulf cluster of such bras!!!
Re:Britain patents, The first Bra... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Britain patents, The first Bra... (Score:2)
Well, I can do it with my teeth as well, and without damaging the bra.
Here's One... (Score:2, Funny)
Something about a way to connect most of the industrialized nations in the world in order to better exchange information and form a community....naaaaaaaah. Way too idealistic. It'd never work (It still doesn't work if you ask me).
Why am I not surprised (Score:2, Funny)
Patent Infringement (Score:5, Interesting)
Hmm. Looks Like This Company [quantumpicture.com] is Infringing on a patent
How to win the War on Terrorism™ (Score:5, Funny)
The terrorists will pick them up, put them on and run into battle with American Forces(TM). First shot fired; they fall to the ground with a broken neck! War over!
America's Freedom Force(TM) - 1, Axis of Evil(TM) - 0.
Game Over, man
This idea is patent pending ©2002 Teamhasnoi. Unauthorized use will be turned over to Panip, Inc.
Re:How to win the War on Terrorism™ (Score:2, Funny)
Re:How to win the War on Terrorism™ (Score:3, Funny)
BTW - You might want to patent that algorithm (-0 == 0 and 0 > -1).
Algorithms are very valuable patents.
Re:How to win the War on Terrorism™ (Score:2)
And what if its just a normal hat, i.e. no attachment at all? You won't be wearing it for long. Give it to the terrorists along with some kind of device that launches people into the air. If the broken neck doesn't get them, the impact will.
Re:How to win the War on Terrorism™ (Score:2)
Why the hell not! They got most of their arms, training and funding from the west anyway. Maybe we can give them royalty points or repeat buyer discounts?
I remember this game.... (Score:4, Interesting)
It was all in a turn-of-the-century theme, and was a lot of fun. Perhaps a modern version of the game could include Rambus-style tactics...nah. If we'd had that, my sisters would have started pulling each others hair, and someone would be running crying to Mom.
One of my favorite inventions was the automatic hat-tipper.
Re:I remember this game.... (Score:3, Funny)
If all of one property group are under single ownership, it's immune. But if you land on a property that's not yet owned as a complete set, you can force the owner to sell by paying them 3 times the standard price.
Needless to say, money flew around the table as if propelled by a hurricane.
Re:I remember this game.... (Score:2)
And maybe some kind of hack of "the game of life" or Rob T Kiyosaki's Cashflow [yahoo.com] to simulate your family.
all funds fully transferable between games.
Re:I remember this game.... (Score:2)
It does bring up the question, tho -- to what degree are these companies *creating* new value (usually defined as "wealth") vs. merely redistributing old value (a la Monopoly, where there is a limit on the total cash involved)..??
Re:I remember this game.... (Score:2)
Re:I remember this game.... (Score:2)
Re:I remember this game.... (Score:2)
(Not my Auction, BTW)
Re:I remember this game.... (Score:2)
Mine was... the "eye protector for chickens." Which sounds very much like the one in the BBC article.
I have this game! (Score:2)
You are correct, it is called the Inventors. Some of these inventions don't look that crazy when compared to things like Onc Click SHopping though :)
Oh PATENTS (Score:4, Funny)
chicken glasses (Score:2, Informative)
Actually, the point of eyeglasses for chickens is to worsen their vision, not improve it; the purpose being to reduce territorial fighting between roosters in overcrowded coops.
To be really silly, you need to patent contact lenses for chickens: http://home.nycap.rr.com/useless/chickens/ [rr.com]
Re:chicken glasses (Score:4, Informative)
Re:chicken glasses (Score:2)
The lenses also serve to reduce the vision. Furthermore they are colored in red, as this color somehow calms the birds down.
I thought this was a joke, but then I got to see an instructional video about it. The alternative to manually putting in these lenses is to either only have one bird per cage or to destroy their beaks (in a rather cruel manner) so that they cannot harm each other too much. I believe, however, that the latter is the most widely spread practice.
Tor
Eccentric what? (Score:2, Funny)
USA! USA! (Score:2, Interesting)
Wacky patent of the month [colitz.com]
For example . . . [colitz.com]
Re:USA! USA! (Score:2)
I patented the blank, read-only CD
eyeglasses?!? (Score:2, Funny)
They're spectacles, you unbespectacled freaks!
Patent of the year: (Score:5, Funny)
A Collection of Wacky Patents (Score:3, Funny)
I especially like the "Horse Masturbation Preventer". (Seriously, look at the page!)
Re:A Collection of Wacky Patents (Score:3, Insightful)
Horses don't 'masturbate'. This was actually to prevent someone from sneaking into your stable, giving your 2 million dollar stallion a handjob, and stealing "the stuff that dreams are made of".
You'd be surprised what a tube of good horse semen is worth these days.
Must be rubbing off ... (Score:2, Funny)
Ececntric (Score:4, Insightful)
Moustache protector looks familiar (Score:5, Interesting)
The company commander sported a goatee & a long moustache. He made the facial hair a part of the uniform for his men. Troops had to keep the moustaches trained, they had to have the proper upward curve, and protected at night. To accomplish this, they were all given a moustache protector that they were required to wear at night. They were taught during basic training to tie it just right to achieve the proper look.
When my father got back home after the war, he threw his uniform, boots & everything else into the river. Somehow the moustache protector survived, travelling from Germany to Czechoslavakia where he barely survived an ambush, a POW camp in Poland, back home to Hungary, to East Germany, West Germany, and finally to the US.
That was on the BBC two weeks ago. (Score:4, Informative)
...And I tried to submit a story about it at the time. I guess jonerik [mailto] has more luck than me.
My origonal submission, I think it is still relevant:
Unuseless Japanese Inventions (Score:4, Interesting)
USA! USA! USA! (Score:2)
"Ahhhh, those Brits might have the lock on bizarre and useless patents. AHHHHH, but now that the internet is around, lets see how they fare with the combined eeeeevil of the US Patent Office! MuuuUUUUAAAAaaahhhaahahahaha!"
"FIRE THE EULA BEAM! NOW! NOW! I TELL YOU!"
Re:Interesting patent history (Score:2, Informative)
BTW, Laurencium, element 103, is named after him.
Re:Interesting patent history (Score:3, Informative)
It is claimed that Leo Szilard independently came up with this idea about 6 months before, but didn't do anything with it.
Re:Interesting patent history (Score:3, Insightful)
You do realize that if the patent had been granted, it would have disseminated the information more *widely*, due to the fact that patents are available for anyone to read?
You also realize that a cyclotron is about as useful for making nuclear weapons as pocket lint would be?
I know, I know, IHBT...
Re:Interesting patent history (Score:2, Informative)
It's akin to software companies - they can sell their games without any copy-protection whatsoever, and just hope everyone follows copywrite laws, but this obviously doesn't happen very often.
Re:Interesting patent history (Score:2)
Re:Interesting patent history (Score:5, Informative)
The first cyclotron patent was awarded to Ernest Lawrence in 1934, after being prompted to file for the patent by investors and being told that another scientist at Raytheon was about to patent the same thing.
Search Google, you'll find that there is nothing that indicates a cyclotron patent was rejected for any such reason.
Since there was a patent granted on the cyclotron, the rest of your arguments fall apart. Not surprising since they're full of shit.
Moderators - feel free to mod me down. But mod down the idiot parent post first.
Re:Interesting patent history (Score:2)
Re:Interesting patent history (Score:2)
Here's a quote from an article [physicstoday.org] claiming that this quote was a response from a patent officer about the patent application from Leo Szilard, which was applied for in 1928:
"Patents can be given only for inventions that permit a commercial use. However, the submitted procedure apparently has only a scientific value. Whether, in accordance with the invention, any commercially useful material can be produced by accelerating artificially- produced positively-charged corpuscles, appears from our present knowledge ruled out. In the whole application, no hint is found that the applicant has produced, or can produce, such material. Obviously the yield would be so tiny, as with atomic disintegration from the natural alpha rays of radioactive substances, that even in the future the prospect of using the invention in commerce has the highest degree of improbability.
So it was initially rejected, maybe not for the same reason the parent though, but the patent office gave him a hard time about getting the parent.
Moderators, please mod the parent of my post down as a troll. You can mod me as informative though
Re:Interesting patent history (Score:2)
Regarding Szilard's patent application - according to this page [aip.org] it's likely that his first patent on accelerators was rejected due to "prior art". Of course, file the same thing today and I bet you get a patent.
From that page it's not clear if his cyclotron or betatron patents were granted or not.
As for moderation - I didn't expect to get modded up. PG just deserves to get modded into a -1 hole.
Re:Interesting patent history (Score:2)
Re:Interesting patent history (Score:2)
I enjoy wit. I enjoy satire. PG has a poor grasp of them.
If his posts were modded up as Funny (which they occasionally are) then that'd be one thing. But there's a whole lot of idiot mods out there that mod them up as insightful/informative.
Re:Interesting patent history (Score:2)
However, I disagree that PG has poor grasp of satire, and it may be a little rude, but I can't help but laugh when I see him modded up for being informative.
You might think his jokes are disruptive to the discussions, and based on his karma and number of freaks, you may be right, but hey, he makes me laugh. His description of why we see things in 3D (the longer it takes light to reach your eyes, the further away objects appear) is about the funniest pseudo-scientific explanation I've ever read.
Guess all I'm really saying is he does a good job, and I hope he keeps it up.
Re:Goes right up there with ... (Score:2)
Re:One they missed (Score:2, Funny)
Re:One they missed (Score:2)
Re:One they missed (Score:2)
Mind you you're probably right - that's probably why we all eat Indian, Chinese and Italian food in the UK....
If you think the fish and chips was an experience - try a doner kebab next time you're over
DRM, bio-chem etc... (Score:2)
e.g. Patent business models &co that you believe might exist in the future because of genetics, or DRM or advances in medine.
That way you could charge a high license fee to the company if they don't sell there drugs etc... cheeply or don't generally toe the line. or just not let them pratice at all.
Patents, keeping inovation alive!
Re:Nice (Score:2)
Re:Old (read: classic) joke (Score:2)
What is wrong with Braille street signs? May places have them, giving directions to blind folk, yes, in a place you can touch them. Damn good idea if you ask me. Lord knows how they find them though...
Re:Old (read: classic) joke (Score:2, Insightful)