Experian, Ford, and Identity Theft 193
corebreech writes "The mighty New York Times (I think they might want you to register) is reporting that hackers posing as Ford employees have managed to pilfer some 13,000 credit reports (Quality is Job 1.) Supposedly the info isn't restricted to merely credit card numbers, but rather includes such delectable delights as address, SSN, bank account info and creditworthiness. Glad I take the subway." The original story was from the Boston Globe.
I'd be happy... (Score:4, Insightful)
Then I'd just sue Ford for lossing my info. They've already admited to doing it, so there's pretty much no burden of proof. Corporate neglegence should be pretty easy to prove.
That sound you hear is lawyers sharpening their claws.
He got it wrong (Score:5, Insightful)
They didn't just crack Ford owners (Score:5, Insightful)
Read the article again. They didn't just steal the personal financial information of Ford owners.
They just pretended to be Ford so that they could access the credit reports of thousands of people. Subway-riders included.
Identity theft insurance (Score:3, Insightful)
It seems to make sense (well, to me at least) that the corporations charged with the information of your identity should be forced to have this identity insurance. Sure people could get it, so if they gave up their identities by accident (people going through their trash) they would be covered.
However, corporations like Ford saying "oops, sorry! but i'm not paying for our mistake" is unacceptable. They should be required by law to have identity theft insurance, and reimburse those who's identity has been stolen through the identity insurance.
The bad news though, (Score:5, Insightful)
These credit bureaus have too much centralized data on citizens. They are a one stop shop for crooks, be they crackers or whatever.
no SSN (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Best Quote (Score:2, Insightful)
This all comes down to something I've been painfully aware of for most of my life, though it doesn't seem to be terribly obvious to those who need to recognize it. Which is the very essence of the problem itself: The guys at the top don't know what's going on at the bottom. They have their little meetings where they talk to the guys just under them in the corporate hierachy who in turn have had their little meetings with the folks under them and so on and so forth until you get to the bottom where the first line supervisors are more concerned with protecting their own butts than communicating anything of importance to their own supervisors. The former head of the company where I work once called this an "inversion layer," implying that there was some particular point where communications break down. This is how it looks, but it's not how it is. The lack of communications results from the fact that each individual level of organization in a company is not totally transparent to the level above it. It is simply the accumulation of many layers of less than complete transparency that results in the appearance of this mythical inversion layer. The real problem is too many levels of management and more precisely the whole multi-layered managerial system itself, where the guys at the top really don't won't to "dirty their hands" looking at anything more than one level below them. Not only is it impossible for them to know what's happening using the current organizational model, they don't really want to do anything that would allow them to know.
If they did know, they would have to take responsibility. And nobody sitting behind an expensive desk making obscene amounts of money for having little meetings about his "vision" of the future wants to have to worry about being responsible.
Re:The FBI wants to prosecute the wrong people! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Just goes to show (Score:4, Insightful)
Mother's maiden names are similarly public records. In practice they have been harder to track down in the past, but wiht various records including those of the Mormon church coming on-line that information is not fully accessible as well. See first paragraph for implications.
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Re:these are NOT hackers! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:IMPORTANT - Opt out (Score:1, Insightful)
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protect yourself.. (Score:2, Insightful)