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Carnivore Goes Wireless 169

GMontag writes: "The Washington Post Tech Section is running this story FBI's 'Carnivore' Might Target Wireless Text. Apparently, since the industry can't provide big brothering to the satisfaction of the FBI the FBI will will do it *for* them. This is a collector's item too, with no mention in article of DCS1000 being used to "save" children!"
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Carnivore Goes Wireless

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  • radio (Score:3, Insightful)

    by geekoid ( 135745 ) <dadinportland&yahoo,com> on Friday August 24, 2001 @12:04PM (#2213651) Homepage Journal
    wireless transmission can be monitored by anyone, not just the F.B.I.
  • Re:radio (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Menteb ( 161089 ) on Friday August 24, 2001 @12:15PM (#2213722)
    well, so is making backdoors in webserver software and selling it to stupid people (euh... M$ maybe ;). I mean, not every person on the planet is born with good brains.
  • Re:Clarification (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Peter Simpson ( 112887 ) on Friday August 24, 2001 @12:49PM (#2213891)
    >as long as you are not a fedral criminal you have nothing to worry about

    Tell your uncle that, after Richard Nixon and J Edgar Hoover's reign, the FBI has got a HELL of a job ahead of them if they plan to convince anyone
    of the truth of that statement.

  • by Anml4ixoye ( 264762 ) on Friday August 24, 2001 @01:17PM (#2214070) Homepage
    I was going to quote one section, but can't narrow it down.

    I am truly sorry that you were not the right person. And yes, it was unfortunate that you were in the 'wrong place at the wrong time.' But, as much as I believe in individual liberties, if I was that cop I would have done the same thing.

    I work in computers, but have spent 4 1/2 years as a firefighter as well. I am 22 and have seen a lot more than I would like. Like the outright murder of not one, but three police officers (two Tampa detective and one Highway Patrolman) as well as recently another murder of a Tampa Police Officer. Why? Because they did not do exactly what the police officer above did.

    Let's play what if. What if you would have been that shooter? What if the officer had a report the shooter had high-caliber weapons? What if the report also involved possible other shootings? What if you had not been the shooter, but had a gun?

    Unfortunately, because we are all human, mistakes are made. You were not held illegally, not tortured, nor beaten, you were 'secured' via a legal method of takedown in a possibly hostile situation. And if I was in your situation (and I have been) I would only be upset if the police officer would have continued to hold me for hours, or would not have released me, or would have had no reason at all.

    As far as your points? I am not even going to start on them. I can say that you appear not to even know a Police Officer or (obviously) be one. As I tell people who complain about how open source projects are going, if you don't like it, do something about it. Don't sit on your freakin' butt and come up with reasons to make you feel better about yourself. Go out and do something. Become an officer. Put YOUR life on the line. Or help those that do. See how it feels to arrive on the scene of a shot officer, to see the destruction caused by it. To do everything you can and it not be enough. Do that, then come back and see how your viewpoints are.

We are each entitled to our own opinion, but no one is entitled to his own facts. -- Patrick Moynihan

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