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.Eu TLD to be Created? 15

Posted by michael from the euros-only dept.
ksw writes: "CNET has this story about the proposed .eu tld. So all we need now is the EU-Parliament's blessing and we're on our way. I wonder what their take on squatting will be......." I'm not quite sure how this is going to play out ... The European government has no particular authority to simply order that new domains be created in the root servers.
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.Eu TLD to be Created?

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  • Surely they're supposed to purchase both domains, just like American companies are encouraged to buy their names in the .com, .net, and .org TLDs 'to protect their intellectual property'...
  • Why is the EU getting a TLD while all of the countries within the EU have TLDs? Will all of the country domains, like .de, .it, etc, be subsumed under the super-entity, so one has *.it.eu? Or, as is more likely the plan, will a business in Italy have to choose between .it and .eu (while still probably going with .com).

    Poor planning, IMHO.

    Yours truly,
    Mr. X
    ...unintended consequences...
  • If the European Union gets its own domain, what about other free trade zones, e.g. NAFTA and the equivalent Asian associations ? Surely they too would qualify for a TLD.

  • From the commission report [eu.int] page 7:

    On September 25, 2000 ICANN issued a resolution providing that alpha-2 (&) codes are delegable as ccTLDs only in cases where the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency, on its exceptional reservation list, has issued a reservation of the code that covers any application of ISO 3166-1 that needs a coded representation in the name of the country, territory or area involved . Such conditions are met by the EU code which is therefore delegable to the Community.

    In other words, the delegation from the commission offered the ICANN some money, and the ICANN quickly added an exception to the ISO 3166 rule.

    the AC
  • Here is some more information on this. It comes out of the Information Society Promotions Office [eu.int], just one of the many ways us Europeans tax euros are wasted^Wspent.

    [as a brief digression, fear and loathing of the dreaded DG-13, errr... ISPO, is directly proportional to the closeness to the commission. Americans have very little to fear, but I live no more than 40Kms from them, and they equal micro~1.oft for my disdain. Think "living in the shadow of the land of Mordor"]

    Last year, the ISPO put out a CFP to the big-5 usual suspects, (i.e. PWC, E&Y, D&TT, AA, KPMG) about creating a new TLD, back when ICANN was asking for new TLD proposals. But the RFP was, as the norm, heavily stacked to be given to whoever bought the last round of beers. [/rant]

    The proposal called for a consultant group to approach ICANN, IANA, IETF and any who might influence the decision, on how to create a .eu TLD, put in a bid, and apply pressure to the ICANN as needed to ensure success. This was part of a buzzword driven initiative called eEurope, which sprang into being just when the e-bubble burst last year.

    Moving with great haste, for the commission, just one year after the idea was proposed, a report [eu.int] (sorry, PDF) was given to the commission, and now they are going ahead with the creation of a registry to administer the new TLD. A longer, more detailed report [eu.int] was submitted at the beginning of this year.

    It is interesting to note they ignored calls for the registry to be run as a business (as NSI) and they want to make it "a not-for-profit organisation operated in the public interest."

    the AC
  • Why should the U.S. have its own TLD when all its states have their own code? oh, wait... there is no .alabama

    ... maybe the EU countries will one day have .it.eu, .uk.eu, etc. when it's a federal republic.

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  • Since there is no claim that dot-eu is a ccTLD, this point is moot. The only revelant point is whether any and all two-letter TLDs must be reserved for ccTLDs, and whether or not all ISO country codes must be issued corresponding ccTLDs.

    The RFCs are silent on both points, though there is a internet draft that mentions reserving two-letter strings so as to prevent collisions with ISO namespace. But even if this were spelled out explicitly in a published RFC, the RFCs are not standards and are not enforceable except by consensus. There are plenty of examples of code or protocols or procedures that blatantly violate one or more RFCs. All it takes to destroy either "tradition" is for one two-letter TLD to be issued that is not a ISO code. Dot-eu stands the best chance of being that TLD.

  • IANA has stated a number of times that it is not in the business of deciding what is or is not a country [iana.org]. Instead, they use the ISO 3166 [www.din.de] standard to decide when they create new ccTLDs.

    Reading the rules for adding a name to the ISO-3166 standard [www.din.de] you'll see that the only way that .eu would be created as a ccTLD would be if the UN [un.org] added the EU to its list of "standard country codes".

    Is the UN likely to recognize the EU as a nation any time soon? No. Is there likely to be a .eu ccTLD any time soon? No.
  • Well, all the EU's member states are ISO members, at least, so each EU members' standardisation body could support such a request to ISO (according to procedure B/III of how to add names to ISO-3166).

    No. Under procedure B you need to satisfy I, II, and III. I don't think that the EU counts as a "region geographically separated from its parent country".
  • 2001-03-02 13:23:20 .eu domain coming (articles,news) (rejected)
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  • And in Portuguese it sound like "it's anus" (é cu)!!! Next to that, conversation with a cow is reasonable.
  • "Eu" in Portuguese means "I" (or "me").

    beija.eu == kiss.me
    sou.eu == its.me
    sefud.eu == yourefuck.ed -- all right, not the same thing but what the hell. ;-P

  • The European government has no particular authority to simply order that new domains be created in the root servers.

    If they really want it to go through, I'm sure some monetary compensation could get it on the root servers.

  • You can read the text of the .eu registry proposal here [ec-pop.org]. It seems to answer at least a few questions asked.
  • However hard it might be to get a .eu TLD, I can easily see them getting the eu.int to use as the official domain of the EU.

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