The Dark Arts: Meet the LulzSec Hackers (hackaday.com) 63
szczys writes: Reputations are earned. When a small group of hackers who were part of Anonymous learned they were being targeted for doxing (having their identities exposed) they went after the would-be doxxer's company, hard, taking down two of the company websites, the CEO's Facebook, Twitter, Yahoo, and even his World of Warcraft accounts. The process was fast, professional, and like nothing ever seen before. This was the foundation of Lulz Security and the birth of a reputation that makes LulzSec an important part of black hat history. Good companion piece and update to some of our earlier posts about the hack; that would-be doxxer was Aaron Barr.
Re:Lulzsec is an elite group? Since when? (Score:5, Insightful)
It's a relative thing. Script kiddies are elite relative to Slashdot editors.
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The process was fast, professional, and like nothing ever seen before.
What a complete load of crap.
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The process was fast, professional, and like nothing ever seen before.
What a complete load of crap.
Indeed. They got caught.
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Maybe they created that virus? Or maybe it was NK?
what's this hyping? (Score:2)
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Black Hat II - For the Lulz
Professional? (Score:3)
Yeah, I don't think I'd characterize anything like this as "professional".
So what? (Score:3, Insightful)
They counter-doxxed and hacked someone. Did that stop them from getting doxxed and arrested? If not, then big fucking deal. They still got owned. Owning him doesn't change that. And since they were the ones who were supposed to be anonymous, then:
Aaron Barr: owned
Lulsec: still owned and secret identities exposed to boot.
In the Grand Battle of the Douchebags:
Barr: 2 Lulsec: 1
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But they hacked his WoW account!
Damn, that would certainly ruin my entire life and cause me to spiral into a deep depression, culminating in madness and suicide. If I had a WoW account.
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Since an MMO like that keeps moving the goalposts, maintaining his character probably felt more like a job than his job. So losing his account could either mean he contemplated suicide, or alternately he blinked, looked around, and realized that perhaps he should shower, shave, and dust five years worth of Cheetos dust off himself and he lived happily ever after.
Seriously, when they created Daily Tasks... I mean Daily Quests, it confirmed to me that I was sitting in a hamster wheel where I was logging in t
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So losing his account could either mean he contemplated suicide, or alternately he blinked, looked around, and realized that perhaps he should shower, shave, and dust five years worth of Cheetos dust off himself and he lived happily ever after.
I kind of felt that way when I quit WoW on my own accord.
Or rather, it felt nice not having to make excuses to not go out 4 nights of the week because I was too embarrassed to admit that the real reason I didn't want to go out was because my raiding guild required 80% attendance. And that was even for what was a casual raiding guild that only did about 12 hours a week; I can't imagine what it must be like to go with a "hardcore" raiding guild that does 25+ hours a week (strangely enough, such a guild was on
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My god, I knew gamers could be pathetic but didn't think they came in droves. How truly pathetic.
There's a lot that could be said on this topic, but I hear you. I think many of these games foster a certain non-social behavior to drive the "engagement" metric, and for whatever reason, many people flock to this shit.
I used to get on my son for spending hours "collecting colored pixels" because it all seemed like such a waste of time. He grew out of most of it after he realized that he had nothing -ZERO- to show for all the time he'd spent in various games. NOTHING whatsoever to show for it except a lack
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Eh, it's just a hobby, like anything else.
None of us leave here alive, and in the end no hobbies amount to anything. Stamp collecting, hiking, logic puzzles, programming, building models, flying RC planes, surfing, falconry, (video/card/board) games - they're all things that people do to pass the time when they're not working or taking care of other necessities. Most people do these things because they enjoy them, because hobbies help people relax and unwind.
Yeah, some people forget that and keep doing th
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Wise words, and well said.
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The guild I was in was Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then 3 hours each day except when content was on farm we'd finish early on Sunday, (Tuesday is reset day) so anywhere from 7-12 hours a week. At any rate, they were all nights that you had to go to work the next day so you weren't going out late anyways, but still annoying after a while.
The non-casual guilds meanwhile had a typical schedule of 5 hours per day for Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
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No, I'm sorry, but your definition of casual is raiding almost every day?? (or night, if you prefer to put it that way...)
Since your Broca's area is obviously made out of dog shit, let me put it in more direct terms: I pretty clearly stated it was 4 days at the start of a raid tier, and 3 days afterwards. That isn't anywhere close to being every day.
with a third for old content larks.
We didn't even do old content. Once a new raid tier came out, we completely abandoned the last tier.
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Then modify it to "almost every other day" if you prefer that expression. You're still raiding considerably more than a casual raiding group. And 4 days versus the 5 days other raiders were doing? Not casual, sorry, no matter how much you want to believe it.
Honestly why are you so retarded? Even 4 out of 7 days in a week is just over half, not "almost every" by any measure, and a typical week was 3, which is less than half, even further removed from "almost every." Also this is past tense, I haven't done any raiding in over 4 years, and for the most part haven't even touched the game since then (only played for all of about 4 months within that 4 year span, and it wasn't even a continuous 4 months.)
You may not have been a cutting edge progression raider, but you were not casual. Not casual. Not casual. Not casual. Not casual. Not casual. Not casual. Not casual. Not casual.
Stop with the faggotry please; you're not fooling anybody.
Where legal systems fail, vigilantism thrives (Score:2)
Since "doxing" is still ignored by our juridical system, people who can help themselves will do so.
Re:Where legal systems fail, vigilantism thrives (Score:4, Insightful)
Kinda.
I recall when Anonymous attempted a campaign against Mexican druglords, and promptly changed their tune when faced with an organization that had no compulsions with killing to make their point. Anonymous is very selective in the targets they choose, mostly relating to people who either by law or reputation can't respond in kind. That isn't quite a failure of the legal system but more low level attacks puffing themselves to be more relevant that they are.
LulzSec are at best an irritation with actual criminals having the good sense to operate more covertly.
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Usually when I think of Anonymous, this is what I really think of:
http://i.imgur.com/Wng3qhv.jpg [imgur.com]
Is any of this new? (Score:1)
Didn't this all happen awhile ago? I learned nothing new from reading the article and Wikipedia and other sites are more informative
A Part Of 'Anonymous'? (Score:2)
From what I understand no one can be a part of 'Anonymous', you are whom ever you are and part of what ever group is participating and only conducting that political activist activity temporarily under the guise of 'Anonymous'. Any activity you participate it is your own responsibility and does not carry over to any other activity by others conducting their own political activist activity temporarily under the guise of 'Anonymous'(in terms of RICO a popular US interpretation of various activities, the crim
Wasn't the HBGary attack not a hack? (Score:3)
From what I recall, the attack on HBGary was actually clever social engineering, emailing one of the secretaries for one of the executives pretending to be a high-up who needed his password reset. All they really did was use the stolen login credentials to get the emails and other data off HBGary's servers and then deface their website. The subsequent "hacks" were the result of Barr using a universal password.
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Remind me to change the combination on my luggage.
Those "LulzSec Hackers" are just criminals (Score:2)
I fail to see the fascination with that bunch of adolescent bullies and criminals that call themselves "Anonymous" in general or LulzSec in particular. They are assholes who think being a modern-times cyber lynch-mob makes them heroes.
I hope the FBI gets them and they end up where they belong: in jail.