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Cuba Connecting Universities With Fiber 56

lpress writes: Two Cuban universities have fiber links and fiber connections will be available to all Cuban universities in January 2016. One of the currently connected universities is in the west, near Havana (satellite ground station) and one in the east, near the undersea cable landing. Cuba will use Chinese equipment for DSL to the home and Wifi access points.
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Cuba Connecting Universities With Fiber

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  • Back Door (Score:3, Interesting)

    by pubwvj ( 1045960 ) on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @09:04PM (#50030079)

    Is this the same Chinese country that is building back doors into networking and computer equipment so they can later take it over as described in a previous article? Seems everyone's hip to this fun game and playing it out.

    • That, and the fact that they're deploying long ago obsoleted last mile technology (DSL), I doubt their infrastructure will be any kind of marvel. One would think that an all new deployment would be at least kind of modern.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Reason for DSL is two-fold.

        1. Cuba deployment needs to be CHEAP
        2. See #1

        Cuba doesn't have foreign cash to burn on Internet. They are probably using Chinese gear simply because they got good deal. And you know, it's kind of difficult to buy things from US if US still has their embargo on.

        • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

          by Anonymous Coward

          Cuba is using Chinese gear because after the collapse of the Soviet Union, whom were sending a $20 Billion check every year, that cash went to zero, sending the
          cuban economy into a tailspin. The 90's were tough on Cuba, but they eventually found new trading partners. When I was there five years ago, instead of Soviet-era Lada's there were new and quite nice Chinese cars and motorcycles. I went from the airport to my hotel in a brand new Chinese made bus, and it was nicer than any bus I've seen in North Amer

      • by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @10:00PM (#50030307)
        Comment removed based on user account deletion
        • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

          by AK Marc ( 707885 )
          You mean, thanks to the USA embargo, where force and threat of force to keep the smaller nation down harmed the smaller nation, and stunted its growth?
          • What would the US embargo have done that the Iron Curtain wouldn't have already done anyways?

            • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

              by AK Marc ( 707885 )
              It may have only resulted in a nicer palace for Castro, but the embargo on Cuban tobacco helped make the country poor. We'll never know what they would have done with the money. The evil of the US trumped the evil of Castro.
              • Comment removed based on user account deletion
                • Oh bullshit!. They had the ENTIRE SOUTH AMERICA to trade with!

                  Which itself has spent much of that interval being about as economically advanced as Cuba itself is.

                  I still contend that the ultimate destruction of the Castro regime won't occur until Americans are free to come in and corrupt them again.

          • You mean, thanks to the USA embargo, where force and threat of force to keep the smaller nation down harmed the smaller nation, and stunted its growth?

            What, you somehow believe that the USA is the ONLY country that could possibly have traded with Cuba over the last half century? Let me give you a hint: everyone in the world except the USA could still trade with Cuba.

            Yes, they could still sell their tobacco. And run their resort hotels and casinos. And their 14-year-old hookers....

        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by Feral Nerd ( 3929873 )

          I'm guessing equipment purchased on the used market. Cuba's still pretty poor right now. Thanks to Castro and his little shit-fit revolution, he drove that nation into the ground via COMMUNISM! And no, Cuba's survival didn't depend on trading with America; or the lack of in this case. The financial wounds were self-inflicted by Cuba for Cuba. It truly is a sad story and need not have happened.

          You are trolling. Take the deeply held beliefs of the GOP+Tea Party and shout them from the roof top in a relatively liberal heavy crowd like slashdot and watch the sparks fly. At least it's a clever troll I'll give you that so I'll bite. Can some GOP voting admirer of the Cuba embargo please tell me what is the purpose of maintaining it 30 years after the end of the cold war? Do yoy really think the Cubans yearn to have the Batista elite that fled to Miami back? Rest assured that most of them don't. I've b

          • Can some GOP voting admirer of the Cuba embargo please tell me what is the purpose of maintaining it 30 years after the end of the cold war? Do yoy really think the Cubans yearn to have the Batista elite that fled to Miami back?

            The obvious answer is: to get the vote of that Batista elite.

            A deeper reason is likely that, no matter what it cost it, Cuba is a small country that succesfully defied the USA and went its own way. Empires can be unbelievably petty sometimes. And the ideologies riding them have all

        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by Anonymous Coward

          You weren't there. That "shitfit" was kicking out Batista, a murderous, corrupt Mafia collaborating drug and gambling and crime cartel with rightwing death squads, right on the US doorstep. Great place to go for richer US tourists to spend money and buy prostitutes and drugs, pretty good place if you were rich and friendly with the government, bad, bad place to be poor. It was "trickle down economics" at its worst.

          Castro refused to cooperate with the mafia, or with US cold war imperial policy, and refused t

      • That's not a Cisco backdoor.

        That's a NSA backdoor the NSA installed by intercepting the units and installing their own hardware.

        This is significantly different than a backdoor from the manufacturer which would be in all devices. That is if indeed that does exist in Huawei equipment. The Western media reports so breathlessly on Chinese companies that it's hard to tell what has basis in fact and what is just rumor.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Is this the same Chinese country...?

      No, this is a Scottish Chinese country hidden away in the hills of Bavaria.

    • by AK Marc ( 707885 )
      Cuba would rather have Chinese backdoors than the US/French/Israeli backdoors.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      This is a very persistent rumour.

      But unlike equipment from the US, no equipment has been caught in the act.

    • Is this the same Chinese country that is building back doors into networking and computer equipment so they can later

      You mean Cisco and US? No I dont think its this one.

    • by lkcl ( 517947 )

      Is this the same Chinese country that is building back doors into networking and computer equipment so they can later take it over as described in a previous article?

      no because they forgot to ship it via the USA to have the backdoors installed.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Good luck getting IP addresses, Cuba!

    • by MrDoh! ( 71235 )
      How many will they need? can they just use 192.168.x.x for most stuff and have a giant NAT to route/censor stuff through? Why would they want anyone outside connecting up to servers inside the country? or... Once Starbucks sets up, they'll hop onto their wifi and keep sharing that out.
  • Cuba will use Chinese equipment for DSL to the home and Wifi access points.

    I think we can all say that our DSL and wifi equipment is Chinese in origin. ;)

  • Now all they need is a computer!

  • Please don't install 2M new twisted pair runs. This is an awful idea. Fiber is cheap. Coax is pretty cheap. And both are far faster and more flexible than twisted pair.

    What twisted pair is really good for (outside of the house) wireless is good at too. So install something better if you really want to upgrade versus just running 4G service.

    Do not install new DSL wires. It'd be a tragedy.

    • Agreed. It would be crazy at this stage to be pulling new twisted pair copper. I get why you'd want to use DSL and leverage the twisted pair that's there (cheap solution), but not why you'd want to add new copper lines.

  • Does it mean what it means to normal sane people? Or it means what the Verizon lawyers say it means?
  • So how long until http://longtail.it.marist.edu/ [marist.edu] starts seeing and categorizing SSH Brute Force attacks from Cuba?

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