Israel Airport Security Allowed To Read Tourists' Email 438
wiredmikey writes "Israeli security officials at Ben Gurion airport are legally allowed to demand access to tourists' email accounts and deny them entry if they refuse, the country's top legal official said on Wednesday. Details of the policy were laid out by Attorney General Yehuda Weinstein in a written response to the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI), the group said in a statement. 'In a response dated April 24, 2013, the attorney general's office confirmed this practice,' ACRI said, quoting sections of the document which said it was only done in exceptional cases where 'relevant suspicious signs' were evident and only done with the tourist's 'consent'. 'Allowing security agents to take such invasive measures at their own discretion and on the basis of such flimsy "consent" is not befitting of a democracy,' commented Lila Margalit from ACRI."
My house, my rules (Score:5, Insightful)
Israel has every right to require you show just cause why they should let you in. Just like the US has that same right.
You have no right to enter a country of which you are not a citizen, and they can deny you entry for any reason, and require whatever they want of you as a condition of entry.
That's just the way it is. Don't like it? Don't go to Israel.
Re:My house, my rules (Score:5, Insightful)
The question isn't whether they can require something; but whether they are showing good taste by doing so.
Given that nation states exist largely in a state of nature unless they piss off enough members of the security council, what they can do is a very broad category indeed. That, however, makes judging them on what they do choose to do rather easier...
Re:My house, my rules (Score:5, Insightful)
IMHO Israel is not worried about what's in good taste and is more worried about national security from countries that have stated in no uncertain terms that Israel should be wiped off the map.
Re:My house, my rules (Score:5, Interesting)
Their airport security works, and the environment is hostile, so I can't blame them much for their airport interview techniques. In 1996, I was consulting for an electronics company in Haifa, where I wrote a technology mapper for digital logic. At the exit interview, the security guy wanted to understand exactly what it was I was doing in Israel, and he almost made me miss my plane. He just couldn't figure out what the heck I was paid to do no matter how I explained it. No biggie. I have a Palestinian friend who tells me about having to go through cavity searches to get on a plane. Their methods violate privacy big time, but it works.
If we want to pick on Israel, I think pointing out that 45 years of brutal occupation of the West Bank isn't cool. I can let the airport thing slide.
Re:My house, my rules (Score:4)
you need a non-corporate interpretor.
The direct translation was that Israel's current leadership needs to cease to exist.
Did you ever check your source?
Re:My house, my rules (Score:4, Insightful)
In this particular case, it would seem that they are sacrificing the freedom and privacy of visiting non-citizens for the sake of security of their citizens. As a nation-state, the goal of the State of Israel is to provide for these things for its citizens first and foremost, so it sounds like a reasonable trade-off. Especially given that they're facing some very real, rather than imaginary, threats.
Re:My house, my rules (Score:5, Insightful)
Can I haz passw0rds? (Score:2)
Hey Israel, fuck you for being stupid.
If only that maxim also applied in the US... (Score:3)
Thanks to lobbying, even in the US, Israel's interests are often placed above that of Americans. For a recent example, see this [guardian.co.uk].
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The other problem with your argument is "Don't like it? Don't go to Israel.". What about people returning to Israel?
Re:My house, my rules (Score:5, Interesting)
Actually, no, they can't. Well, they can require it, but if I acquiesced to those demands and got caught doing so, I could lose my job, get sued for millions of dollars, and then do several years in federal prison.
At the core of the problem is the fact that most people do not have a legal right to give anyone else access to their email account. As an employee of a major Fortune 500 company, I am prohibited from doing so not only by my employment contract, but ostensibly by SEC regulations as well, because granting such access could constitute facilitating insider trading.
And even if you're not working for anyone at all, allowing other people access to your account is a violation of the terms of service, which according to the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
And God help you if you happen to be working on anything that requires D.O.D. clearance. Sharing that sort of info with a foreign government could get you life in prison or even summary execution for treason.
In other words, Israel basically just closed their borders to U.S. citizens, for all intents and purposes, legally speaking. I mean, sure, you can go, but if you do, know that you're taking a very real risk that they might decide to demand that you break U.S. law as a condition of entry, at which point you have two choices: give up all the money you spent on travel and lodging or go to prison when you get back to the States.
Thanks, but no thanks. There are plenty of countries that actually want American tourists.
Re:My house, my rules (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah man, just imagining each country having its own laws fills me with rage.
Re:My house, my rules (Score:5, Insightful)
The USA is but one of many that doesn't play by its own rules. The US government quite blatantly violates its country's constitution, after all.
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Rules are always made to benefit those making them. When those rules no longer benefit the rule-makers, they change the rules. Every government in the world follows that basic principle.
Re:My house, my rules (Score:5, Insightful)
In defense of the US, at least the government still pretends to follow its own rules where it thinks it might get caught and it could cause a stink, costing someone (or several or many someones) reelection, etc. This provides a lot more stability than many governments do. In America, it's actually possible to go your entire life without having to bribe anyone, for example. Living somewhere where they at least pretend to care about civil liberties, etc. is better than living somewhere where they don't even bother to pretend, which explains in large measure why so many people came here, still come here, and why so many stay who could leave.
Being able to leave, coincidentally, is another nice feature of our system. If I want to travel abroad, I don't have to SNEAK AWAY. Can the prisoners... er... 'citizens' of every other country say that? Also, for all the other countries whose citizens CAN, in fact say that, how many might have more repressive governments than they do were it not for America's influence? Historically, this long-suffering and oft derided nation has been responsible for a lot of freedom beyond its borders, thank you very much you fnck!ng ingrates.
For example, if you live in France, and you enjoy not speaking German, (or if you live anywhere in Europe, for that matter, and enjoy not being required to speak German...) you're welcome. If you live anywhere in Asia, and enjoy not having to speak Japanese, if only to ask your masters for water, or for them not to whip you so hard... you're welcome. Has everything this nation done been good, and on the up and up? Of course not - but on balance, if we're not the best, when it comes to civil rights, and being a great place to live, raise a family, etc., then we're certainly near the top of the list, regardless of how some one or more groups who have had the temerity to presume to rate and rank various places' worth, generally by criteria that necessarily skew the results one way or another.
Did we perhaps get overzealous recently? That's probably fair to say. Have some of our policies, foreign and domestic benefited the rich at the expense of everyone else? Clearly. Does that make the entire nation a benighted sh!+hole worthy only of scorn? Hardly. If anything, it underlines the point that people should give a lot more thought to how, and for whom they vote, and less time worrying about whether the people have (D) or (R) after their names, or how slick their hair is, or how menacing they make the notion of their opponents' victories seem in advertising, because most, if not all of the horrible things this country has done, looking back, can ultimately be attributed to a careless, negligent, uninformed, and/or easily frightened or manipulated, apathetic electorate.
The fix for this is simple, though far from easy. Education. Without education, we're doomed. Now if you'll pardon me, I'm going to go read.
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[I]f you live in France, and you enjoy not speaking German, (or if you live anywhere in Europe, for that matter, and enjoy not being required to speak German...) you're welcome. If you live anywhere in Asia, and enjoy not having to speak Japanese, if only to ask your masters for water, or for them not to whip you so hard... you're welcome.
Now if you'll pardon me, I'm going to go read.
I suggest you read a history book, particularly one that covers the Soviet Union's role during World War II. I suspect that your grade-school history/social studies books were either similar to or identical to mine, which were published in the United States during the Cold War on the behalf of government, and were therefore appropriately biased.
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They didn't deny the Soviet Union's influence, are you attempting to deny US involvement, commitment, influence, and success? Why? They were allied - did he say don't thank a Russian? My questions are mostly rhetorical but concern why you seem to chose to reply the way you did. The subject is the US's help/involvement. Ah well, that question is for you alone to answer.
Re:My house, my rules (Score:4, Interesting)
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What I really enjoy (and I shouldn't) is people who find various stages or choices and point to those as places where WWII could have had an outcome where Germany won.
Re:My house, my rules (Score:4, Insightful)
He knows what he did. He is just being a dickwad liberal/socialist, who can't admit that the US has actually done more good than harm in this world. Yeah, we've made some mistakes, some fairly big ones, but that does not change the fact that there are MUCH worse people out there, and given a chance, they would enslave as many people as they can.
The left loves to support tyrants, as long as they are socialists railing against America. Sean Penn's infatuation with the former Hugo Chavez is among the most notable. Michael Moore and Cuba is another. Dennis Rodman and NK. I could go on, but I think you get my point. If you listen to these leftists, you would think the world would be better off with their "benevolent dictators".
So, yeah, it is blindness to anything that doesn't fit their rose tinted view of the world.
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The US role on the eastern frotn in WW II is actually quite significant.
1) The US supplied logistical equipment (mainly in the form of trucks) to the USSR which was critical in their efforts.
2) The US involvement in the pacific gave the USSR a great deal of breathing room and prevented Japan from putting pressure on their eastern front.
3) The daytime bombing efforts kind of speak for themselves.
That having been said, it took both the Americans AND Russians to take down Germany. Both were critical.
That doesn
Re:My house, my rules (Score:5, Funny)
For example, if you live in France, and you enjoy not speaking German, (or if you live anywhere in Europe, for that matter, and enjoy not being required to speak German...) you're welcome.
Conversly, if it weren't for the French, you would be writing English.
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if it weren't for the French, you would be writing English.
The Canadians might disagree with the implication that they are English, or somehow enslaved because they did not violently secede.
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I got that, it was quite obvious when he said also "Historically, this long-suffering and oft derided nation has been responsible for a lot of freedom beyond its borders, thank you very much you fnck!ng ingrates."
The problem with this statement is that the US has only gotten involved when it suited their interests. They only joined WW2 after Pearl Harbour. They only get involved with "freedom beyond it's borders" in Iraq when the Oil supply was at risk. How many events can we say the US helped preserve free
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Chaucer is Middle English, not Old English, and is still barely understandable. The dividing line between Old and Middle English is when France conquered England in 1066. Go read Beowulf in the original language and see how much like English it is. Hint: Slashdot doesn't even support all the required letters.
Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
[thorn]eodcyninga, [thorn]rym gefrunon,
hu ða æ[thorn]elingas ellen fremedon.
Oft Scyld Scefing scea[thorn]ena [thorn
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May I suggest reading Fahrenheit 451 [isfdb.org]?
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The british empire, happy to fight any man in the room as long as he's much shorter, starved, and they can sneak up behind him and hit him over the head with a baseball bat first.
What, you don't always look for every advantage over who you're fighting?
Re:My house, my rules (Score:5, Insightful)
The point is to decide which rules you are willing to accept. I will not enter a country that might ask for access to my private accounts, assuming that I can verify that this is really the case.
bogus email? (Score:3)
Why not have a 2nd email account that you use for travel confirmations, bookings, etc. that you can share if needed while protecting your true email account?
i like how Israel uses a human approach to security, and doesn't just radiate us to death for security theater purposes like the TSA.
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Somalia?
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Israel used to be mostly ignored by the US until 1970 when Israel help save the King of Jordan from being overthrown by Palestinian terrorists. The US concluded that the Israelis were trustworthy allies and an 'unsinkable aircraft carrier' in the region - which the US could use to further their interests (particularly against Soviet influence in the Eastern Mediterranean and Middle East). The US needed Israel more than the other way around (since before this the Israelis mostly got arms from the French and
Re:Is Isreal some small town in the US? (Score:5, Informative)
False. Your recall of history is factually incorrect - which makes your assertion about the UK ridiculous.
The League of Nations in 1922 declared an intention to create the states of Palestine and Transjordan. Palestine was a Jewish region of the Ottoman Empire and 'Palestinians' meant Jewish dhimmis in the Palestine region. Arabs were simply 'Arabs'. Palestine was to get all the land west of the Jordan River and Transjordan the land to the East. Then the British decides to split the Palestine region into a Jewish part and an Arab part. The Jews living in the region had been living there continuously for 3000 years (although Jews were temporarily excluded from Jerusalem in 70 AD and in the 3rd Century, but remained in the surrounding areas). In the late 18th Century the 'zionist' movement got going and the Jews that were already in the region were joined by Jews from other parts of the World. These Jews bought swampy land near the coast that the Arabs didn't want. The Jews set to work clearing the swamps and started importing Arabs from other parts of the Arab world (most of whom arrived *after* the Jews, and in 1967 took the name 'Palestinians' for political reasons I'll explain later).
World War II came along and many Jews fled to Palestine if they could. The British kept many of them out (where they were murdered in millions by the National Socialists). Meanwhile the Mufti of Jerusalem, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni [wikipedia.org] headed to Hitler and suggested the Final Solution to the Jewish Problem (reminding Hitler that if the Jews were exteminated no one would remember them, citing how the Armenians were mostly forgotten by the Turkish genocidal jihad against Armenians in 1915). The Mufti also proceeded to the Balkans to raise a pair of Bosnian and SS Divisions that killed tens of thousands of Yugoslavian Jews. The Mufti was not a nice man.
After World War II ended many surviving Jews were convinced that Europe would always be anti-Semitic and left for Palestine (which is true, we see a rise again today; one cannot be racist but it is perfectly acceptable in polite society, politics and academia these days to demonize all Israelis without considering individuals - if you are doing this you are in fact a racist; please stop being racist).
The Jews conducted terrorism against the British and the British decided to leave Palestine (it was also in an anti-colonial mindset and divesting itself of all colonies as well at that time, eg India etc). In 1948 the UN offered states for Jews and Arabs in Palestine. The Jews accepted and Israel was formed. The Arabs rejected the UN plan and attacked with the armies of many neighbouring Arab states as part of the Arab League (and driven by several things; the lust for land and conquest and the intention to commit genocide of Jews as commanded in the Qur'an and hadiths). The Arab Legion told the Arabs in Palestine to move out of the area so that the genocide would be easier. These Arabs are the refugees that no Arab host country wants to integrate. The Jews also had to flee Judea, Samaria in the face of the Arab League armies and were expelled from Arab countries (eg. Egypt). The Jewish refugees were accepted as full citizens by Israel. The Arabs who remained in Israel were accepted as full citizens, and were given Members of the Knesset (eg. similar to Congressmen/Senators in the Israeli political system). There are about 1 million Arab Israelis (who fight for Israel, because they see themselves as citizens of *their* country) and have 3 Members of Knesset. After a year of fighting the Israelis won and their State survived.
After 1948 the Jordanians annexed Judea and Samaria and renamed it "The West Bank" [of the Jordan] to deflect any Jewish historical claim on it. The Egyptians occupied Gaza. The Arabs in Gaza did not call themselves "Palestinian" (a term used for Jews before 1948) but instead called themselves "Egyptian". The Arabs in the West Bank did
Re:Is Isreal some small town in the US? (Score:5, Informative)
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I was not saying the Jews were the majority, so I agree with you. What is important is that Jews had been living there continuously for 3000 years. Most people think that the *all* Jews were evicted by the Romans, but this is not true (the ban was Jerusalem only, AFAIK).
What I did meant is that the British controlling the region at the time generally used the words "Palestinian" and "Arab" to refer to Jews and Arabs respectively. Even more importantly the arabs of the region did not generally refer to t
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Re:Is Isreal some small town in the US? (Score:4, Insightful)
No worries. Just one more tiny point, the land wasn't "UK". It was a Mandate granted by the League of Nations for the UK to administer (not own). I know I'm picking hairs here, but given the nature of the subject it pays to be a little pedantic with regards to the history.
What idiot would think that the Jews only got there after 1948?
Dude, you would be surprised. It is a common refrain of some Islamic supremacists that the Jews have no right to the land because they all came from Europe to displace Arabs at the end of WWII. That's why they mistakenly call for all Israelis to go back to Europe. Since even Western readers are also often confused I thought I'd better make the history explicit, and some folks might learn something. Much of the political problems are due to intentional or unintentional re-writing of history. I didn't mean to suggest you didn't know this. I just saw that some could misconstrue your original post as being that the Israelis only arrived at the end of WWII because the UK put them there - and displaced Arabs in some fit of colonialism. Since that meme is common, but not true, I thought I'd post just so no-one gets confused. I did not mean to raise your hackles.
Re:Is Isreal some small town in the US? (Score:4, Insightful)
Oh, so terrorism was a good thing back then?
The terrorists won, so they became freedom fighers. That is how it always works. It's like the ANC in South Africa.
If Germany hadn't lost WW2, the French Resistance would have been remembered as a bunch of deluded terrorists.
Twitter (Score:5, Funny)
This is why I do all my confidential corporate communication via Twitter and Slashdot postings.
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Funny, but insightful. Typical email is almost the same thing security-wise. As with everything else on the internet, if it's private and you insist on sending it or storing it, make damn sure it's well encrypted.
Pointless (Score:5, Insightful)
This is a stupid policy because anyone intent on doing harm will just set up a dummy account full of fluffy happy mail to show to airport security. Basically the only outcome of this policy is to deny entry to people who are not a threat.
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My guess would be that they don't widely deploy this for exactly this reason. But if someone on their terror watch list forgets about this headline and they get flagged for "enhanced" security they'll "wipe down" their laptop behind the white wall and in the process go to your history and download your email before returning it without making much of a fuss.
Duh (Score:2, Interesting)
I wonder if people realize that to enter US you need a Tourist Visa (except if you are from approx. 17 states that are exempt).
To obtain a Tourist Visa, you need to prove your "residential ties" to the country of origin, which include your bank account statements, your apartment lease, etc.
On top of that you are finger printed on entry.
And If you think US is bad then try entering Switzerland if you are not from EU, US and a few other countries.
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Here are the requirement for tourist visa for Switzerland if you are not from EFTA/EU+Schengen area. They are extremely strict and troublesome.
http://www.eda.admin.ch/eda/en/home/reps/eur/vgeo/ref_visinf/visgeo/toutif.html [admin.ch]
But this is nothing compared to going to Falkland Islands. They have rather strict measurements there too. Even worse then Switzerland.
http://www.falklandislands.com/product.php/36/17/visas [falklandislands.com]
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The last time a bunch of people popped by the Falklands unannounced they weren't tourists...
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Yeah, cause reading emails will stop invasions...
Hmmm.... (Score:5, Informative)
I traveled through Ben Gurion airport in 2011 and I have to say, I found the security there a lot less invasive and arbitrary than security at US airports. They didn't make me take off my shoes or walk through a body scanner. And they didn't confiscate my bottle of water.
What they did do was actually spend time talking to me and watching me. I think the security there is really security, not security theatre.
As for demanding to read your email, that's probably crossing the line. I likely would have refused. But really, it's no worse than the US which can confiscate your laptop at the airport and go through all your files.
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But really, it's no worse than the US which can confiscate your laptop at the airport and go through all your files.
Citation?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/8/court-limits-feds-ability-search-laptops-border/ [washingtontimes.com]
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I was unaware of that ruling, being aware only of the previous decision by the three-member panel. Thanks.
Not sure about the US, but when I returned to Canada one time I was asked to power up my laptop and let the agent look at it. He was searching for kiddy porn (I guess) and after five minutes of eyes-glazing holiday snaps, he let me go. I didn't feel like finding out what would happen if I refused his request to see the files on my laptop.
Re:Hmmm.... (Score:4, Insightful)
"What they did do was actually spend time talking to me and watching me."
Israeli security are trained heavily in how to watch, talk to, ask questions, banter, and totally focus on all reactions from the traveler to see any signs of tenseness, irritation or unusual reactions, however slight. These guys are true pros and not the wimpy minimum wage TSA types (yeah I know they make more than minimum wages).
Re:Hmmm.... (Score:5, Insightful)
I traveled through Ben Gurion airport in 2011 and I have to say, I found the security there a lot less invasive and arbitrary than security at US airports. They didn't make me take off my shoes or walk through a body scanner. And they didn't confiscate my bottle of water.
Israeli airport security is different from American security in one crucial way: they profile passengers.
So if you found their security less invasive, it's most likely because you don't have the wrong name/skin color/country of origin/family background.
Re:Hmmm.... (Score:5, Insightful)
So if you found their security less invasive, it's most likely because you don't have the wrong name/skin color/country of origin/family background.
Absolutely true. Given the situation in the Middle East, they'd be insane not to profile.
And no matter how politically-correct you are, all security involves profiling. There simply aren't the resources not to profile. So while it may not be as obvious in the US or Canada, you can bet your bottom dollar you're being profiled.
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But really, it's no worse than the US which can confiscate your laptop at the airport and go through all your files.
...unless you're a Palestinian.
FTFY
If you call the US embassy about this (Score:5, Interesting)
See The U.S. Government Wanted to Know: Am I Jewish" [dailykos.com]
"This is the conversation I recall having with Chris Kain at the US Embassy in Tel Aviv by telephone:"
CK: Hello. I got your number from ___. You are being questioned by the Israeli authorities, I understand.
ST: They are threatening to deny me entry and to deport me.
CK: Are you Jewish?
ST: No
CK: Have you been in contact with the Israeli government or military in the past?
ST: No
CK: Have you been here before?
ST: Yes, several times. I am a Palestinian with family in the West Bank.
CK: Oh, you have family in the West Bank. Then there is nothing I can do to help you. In fact, if I interceded on your behalf, it will hurt your case with the Israelis.
ST: I don't understand. You are saying you can't speak with them. You have no influence. They are demanding to access my gmail account.
CK: If they have your gmail address, they can get in without your password.
ST: What do you mean? How?
CK: They're good!
ST: This is crazy. You mean you know about these requests to access emails and you have no problem with it.
CK: It is in our travel warning. They won't harm you. You will be sent home on the next flight out.I hope I have been of good service to you.
ST: Frankly, you have done nothing for me.
CK: Well at least you can say I did it kindly.
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I'm not sure what the deal is with those magical powers, but there's a reason Kane asked whether he was Jewish. If you're Jewish, you get automatic Israeli citizenship [wikipedia.org] no matter where you're from, so entry is generally pretty painless. If you're Palestinian or Arab or Muslim or an activist, you're probably just shit [mondoweiss.net] out [wrmea.org] of [972mag.com] luck [mondoweiss.net].
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Hacking into gmail is considered a crime in the US (even if it's done by an allied country).
He said "get in", not "hack in".
There is a process known as "lawful interception", and it's existed for the telephone network for decades - it's a term that covers the legal and technical framework that allows government to intercept phone calls. Something similar exists in most countries worldwide.
In short, in most countries the government can demand that local telcos assist in tapping telephone conversations. There may be various bits of legal paperwork that need to be filled in first, but the upshot's th
Sure, I'll cooperate, they can have the... (Score:2)
Good luck with that. (Score:4, Insightful)
Israeli Airport Security (Score:2, Informative)
They routinely take your laptops and make the backup and give it back to you. Please don't go to Israel with your laptops or any data that you want to protect. Sanitize your email accounts (esp with respect to commercial information where you are bidding against an Israeli company) and then visit the place. The people and the country are a complete delight in surprising contrast to the airport experience. Please take an informed decision.
This is news? (Score:2)
Cry me a river (Score:3, Insightful)
Whine all you want, but more than happy to help these guys. They have:
* A legitimate reason for increased security. They're under far more serious security threats (and frequency) than the US and Europe.
* A better security record (% of attacks foiled) using far less money
* Real security at airports and malls, unlike the security theater going on elsewhere in the world.
Trust me, if they ever get to the point of asking for your email they have flagged multiple levels of suspicious behavior. I have been traveling there for years and their security is *far* less intrusive than the US and Europe. Personally I wish them all the best. They're the only country in the entire world that is actually winning against Islamic terrorism. That's most than most countries can say.
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* A legitimate reason for increased security.
I believe there are few legitimate reasons for wanting to violate people's privacy or freedoms in the name of security, and the fact that there may be real threats does not matter to me. If the TSA was actually anything other than security theater, I'd still be against it completely.
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I believe there are few legitimate reasons for wanting to violate people's privacy or freedoms in the name of security
There is exactly one reason to do so, and that's when the threat to one's security is so paramount that his very existence is at stake.
Which, for Israel, is actually the case.
They have asked to see e-documents for a long time (Score:2, Interesting)
I have only traveled to Israel once. My passage in and out was very quick and easy. I spent less time in customs and security than I usually do flying into America. This may be because my company has a branch in Israel, and I think some pre-arrival and departure documentation was provided.
However, already 5 years ago when I traveled there, it was well documented that security screeners would ask questions like:
What do you do for a living? Why did you come to Israel? What did you do while you were here?
Well... (Score:5, Funny)
Time to register iloveisrael@gmail.com....
Do they force you to install Windows 8 too? (Score:3)
Then it would be too much.
Well this is stupid. (Score:2)
"We demand to see your email account."
An email account isn't like a passport or other official document. It can be created, or deleted, on a whim. What kind of "security" do they think this will bring?
And this is why... (Score:4, Insightful)
That is a genius idea (Score:4, Insightful)
Because terrorists are way too dumb to sign up for more than one email account.
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Your spam reveals a lot more than you think.
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For the most part it shows I shop online lol. Newegg spams me constantly.
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Ohh AC calling someone a bitch over the definition of a word.
Pot, meet kettle.
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Maybe you should read the page (and either tick or untick the box) before clicking "continue." Yeah, you requested the emails. Don't lie to us. We ALL order from the same company.
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I had no idea that the definition of a word would get the vocabulary nazis riled up.
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Why use a word that you don't understand the meaning of?
Hmm... More so, why blame other people and get mad at them because of your ignorance? We did not make you ignorant.
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And still is thank you very much. Why people insist on leaving mail on insecure servers I dont know, not to mention that the govt (US at least) feels no problem about reading anything 6 months or older. And the IRS... well they'll start with that email that just showed up 5 minutes ago.
Re:Throw away email account (Score:4, Insightful)
Did you notice how Google seems incapable of providing any sort of encryption feature? I can't even digitally sign gmail. Secure communication with their servers has been there from the beginning, yet somehow Google doesn't have the technical prowess to incorporate a bit of GPG? If you think Google just finds it too hard to offer public key encryption with their email, I've got a bridge in Alaska you might want to invest in. Someone from the government has spooked them into keeping everything in plain text.
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Yeah! If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear, right?
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Asking for email access, and refusing to let people into the country if they refuse, is no worse than just refusing to let them into the country in the first place without bothering to ask for their email. As long as Israel only refuses to let into the country (wither directly or by asking for email) those people who they are legitimately suspicious of, it's unlikely such businessmen will be affected. And if they are affected, Israel can just directly go to "not letting them in the country" rather than as
Re:Throw away email account (Score:4, Insightful)
It might also be a good reason not to visit a country. Of course, if all countries keep heading towards police states like they seem to be currently, it won't really matter where you go. Goodbye privacy, "papers please".
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... or, you could be a racist douche-bag. The possibilities are endless.
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Huh. I thought we bombed enough nazi's into the stone age. I guess next on the agenda is more bombing of nazi's, who would have guessed? Always hard to deal with single issue political parties....
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I "read" ebooks now at 600 to 800 words per minute by listening to text-to-speech wav files sped up by 3-4X. If you're stuck reading at average or below speed, I can forgive you for being somewhat ignorant of history. I was until I started speed listening. By "we", I assume you mean the USA. Britain bombed the heck out of Germany, far more than we did, and the Russians may have even outdone England. While the bombing was terrible, it was primarily communist Russia that defeated Germany. They both infl
Re:Article has Anti-Semitic Purpose (Score:5, Insightful)
Citation needed. What other counties demand access to tourists' e-mail? And outrage against Israel's human rights crimes is not "anti-semitic" or "outrage against Jews". Anyone with a lick of sense is tired of Israel playing the victim card.
Damning with faint praise, there. And if you're Jewish, that's like a white person in 1965 talking about how safe he felt in Alabama, Bloody Sunday [wikipedia.org] be damned.
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Citation needed. What other counties demand access to tourists' e-mail?
North Korea?
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I'm Jewish but I'm still trying to process your response... maybe Slashdot can help me.
Unfortunately, bigots like you...
The parent did a good job differentiating condemnation of Jews and the state of Israel's actions. There is a massive difference between the two. Even then, let's say that there wasn't a difference. In the United States, we value the freedom of speech which includes the freedom to offend. We critique and criticize Christians and Muslims all the time. Is any of that Christianphobia and Islamophobia? Sure. Is it all Christia
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In response to your claim of "terrorism" by the State of Israel you probably need to get clued up on the legalities. Here's a video for you to look at that covers the relevant International Law. It turns out that only by denying International Law can you claim that the State of Israel is terrorist. You can claim it is heavy handed etc, but you cannot claim it has no legal basis to do what it does (which would make it a "terrorist" state). In short, Israel is not a terrorist state, despite what its critics
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That's what the Palestinians said ;-)
I understand the point you are trying to make, but shall we examine the facts instead? The original inhabitants of the land at the turn of the 20th Century is about 5% of the current population. In the 19th Century and earlier the population hadn't changed for about 400 years. What does this mean? It means that there has been immigration and massive birth rate increases for both Jews and Arabs in Palestine. The Arabs have been in Palestine for about 1300 years and the Jews for about 3000 - but both in relat
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Israel does a pretty good job of generating anti-Israel sentiment on its own, really... at least among anybody who's actually seen the numbers for the death toll in their war in Gaza...
That doesn't mean anti-semitism or anti-jew sentiment (there is a difference between the two), but it does mean that the state of Israel isn't exactly a good neighbour....
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You seem to be one of those guys that equates a criticism of Israel with anti-semitism. You're the only one trying to make this about a religion.
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we're coming into your house NOW, consent or we're pulling you out anyway and we've got automatic weapons, so consent NOW!
I wonder who they got consent from to search an empty residence?
If there is no response then the searchers have to operate on a theory that (a) there is nobody there, or (b) there are terrorists inside. If the police is thinking logically, all [suposedly] empty houses must be entered as hostile places - with doors blown out, and with a flashbang grenade thrown into each room before
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Living in a particular city is a privileged activity. The constitution doesn't apply! Don't like it? Move.
Any time you partake in a privileged activity such as flying or driving, you give your implied consent to whatever conditions are attached to that privilege.
Just because I want to get on a plane doesn't mean that I have given the TSA consent to harass me. If I wish to get on a plane, it is the government's problem if they send thugs to harass me and force me to consent to certain conditions (with them possibly resorting to violence if I resist) before they'll let me on the plane.
Yes, none of this 'logic' is exploitable at all. By moving to or living in city
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The OP is dead wrong. The officer needs cause.
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This will be coming to America soon.
What do you mean "SOON"?
http://www.kpbs.org/news/2011/may/18/no-warrant-needed-search-laptops-phones-border-cro/ [kpbs.org]
The 9Th Circuit ruled this unconstitutional [washingtontimes.com], but for now that only applies to the 9th. Other circuits may make other rulings.
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