White House Tells Agencies To Increase Access to Fed-Funded Research 121
Z80xxc! writes "The White House Office of Science and Technology Policy announced a "policy memorandum" today requiring any federal agency with over $100 million in R&D expenditures each year to develop plans for making all research funded by that agency freely available to the public within one year of publication in any peer-reviewed scholarly journal. The full memorandum is available on the White House website. It appears that this policy would not only apply to federal agencies conducting research, but also to any university, private corporation, or other entity conducting research that arises from federal funding. For those in academia and the public at large, this is a huge step towards free open access to publicly funded research." Edward Tufte calls the move timid and unimaginative, linking to a Verge article that explains that it's not quite as sweeping as the summary above sounds.
So, Was Aaron Swartz RIght, After All? (Score:3)
Or will the DOJ indict President Obama, too?
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He's catering to the publishers because he has to. It's politics, he's making positive steps in some areas but doesn't want to step on publisher's toes so they won't come after him with pitchforks and foil any other plans he has.
He has a lot on his plate, and you can't just go pushing everyone around in politics and expect to get everything you want.
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1. Have Wikimedia set up a sort of wiki journal specifically for this that anyone can read for free (better yet, have the federal government pay Wikimedia for the server and bandwidth costs. It's a drop in the bucket for agencies that are spending 100 million on R&D.)
2. Give each of the federal agencies (that spend 100 million or more on R&D) accounts that can post articles
3. Give each major research university accounts that can edit and comment on the articles, but not post artic
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Did you talk about George W. Bush?
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/george-w-bush-is-the-vacation-president-with-a-total-of-967-days-in-two-terms-or-32-of-his-total/question-2562001/ [sodahead.com]
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I bet he sleeps too. Where's the outrage for that?
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Okay, here are the facts for you. [factcheck.org] Short version: Obama has spent far less time on vacation, per time in office, than his predecessor did. In fact, there's a fairly striking pattern among recent Presidents when you look at vacation time by party affiliation ...
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BTW, you can Google "presidential vacation days" or some similar phrase and get multiple sources. Arguing in a vacuum on something like this is silly when the data are so readily available. But if you prefer ideological ranting to fact-based debate, hey, have fun with that. (Yeah, yeah, I know, "How long have you been on Slashdot?", etc.)
Re:So, Was Aaron Swartz RIght, After All? (Score:4, Insightful)
I see. And how many times during the Bush years did we hear Republicans screeching, "B-b-b-but CLINTON!!!" whenever one of their Glorious Leader's many failings was pointed out?
The inability to take what you dish out is one of the most striking characteristics of what passes for modern conservative thinking. It's simultaneously amusing and pathetic, like a three-year-old's rage when he's denied his favorite toy.
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Don't feed the trolls.
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I don't really understand this comment. I also don't understand the "national security" language in the order. I would find it hard to believe that a government as ridiculously secretive as ours has become, would rely on a paywall like lexis/nexis as a way of keeping information secret. What's a few hundred bucks between spies for a subscription to access to all the latest secrets about black projects? Obviously nothing -- that research won't be showing up anywhere.
I would like to know exactly why these
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Reading the Government is a bit like reading smoke signals in the rain but I am guessing that this snippet in section 3 of the memorandum is pushback:
"Agency plans must also describe, to the extent feasible, procedures the agency will take to help prevent the unauthorized mass redistribution of scholarly publications."
That suggests to me that they do not want to vindicate Aaron Swartz.
A good first step (Score:5, Insightful)
Re: A good first step (Score:5, Informative)
It's started happening in some areas. It's easiest in fields (like mine) where it's already standard for researchers to provide publication-ready final PDFs, usually typeset with LaTeX using a template provided by the journal. In that case, the publisher is not adding much value: they are just shuffling PDFs around, and as academics we are already quite capable of shuffling around our own PDFs.
JMLR [mit.edu], which has displaced Machine Learning to be the top machine-learning journal within only a few years after the latter's editorial board resigned [sigir.org] to form it, is one of the success stories.
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Many of the journals we have now started as academic controlled publications like JMLR. It's fine to start over with new publications, but it's naive to think that doing so will solve the fundamental problems of access to research information.
JMLR, for example, is still under the control of a private publisher, which is affiliated with a private university. There's no real incentive for them to keep the information freely available any longer than is fashionable. In the several hundred year history of a
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The peer review system is not dependent on academic publishers. Reviewers and editors are volunteers under the current system, and would continue to do their voluntary work without the publishing industry.
How does that work in practice?
Lets say Joe Biologist has a paper he wants to publish, how does he get it reviewed by peers without the appearance of hand-picking his own reviewers? I always assumed the publishers solicited these reviews. Is there another mechanism?
Disclaimer: Not a scientist, so I have no knowledge of how this happens, but I've seen a lot of total quack "science" published as if it were real on the web.
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Academic journals typically have an editor or group of editors who work for little or no pay. These editors decide whether a submission should proceed to peer review, select the reviewers, and oversee the communication between the reviewers and the submitting authors. Academics do this work for free because it is considered to be part of the vocation [chronicle.com] of creating and expanding knowledge. Publishers were necessary in the past because they handled the logistics of typesetting and printing and distributing the
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It's still a journal, with a board (as you pointed out, JMLR is successful because it inherited an experienced editorial board), editors, a database of reviewers, etc.
Journals DO useful things. There probably isn't any point in having large aggregate publishers like Elsevier anymore, but there certainly is still a reason to have journals with staff, volunteer or otherwise.
Some Slashdotters seem to think that academic publishing is just a matter of sticking some PDFs up on a web page. It's not. Publishers
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Umm, try volunteering for some of the editing work done on such publications (assuming you can, many of them used paid editors, even though the reviewers are volunteers). They certainly do provide a meaningful, and very difficult to perform service. I know from experience from just trying to manage a small conference proceedings that was peer-reviewed that was all managed by volunteers. Thankfully, it was not a periodic publication, as the time it took was a lot more than I expected, and not always easy
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Who modded this up? Was it because it was denouncing copyright? Otherwise the comment seems to be a load of crap modded up by people who either don't actually deal with publishers or who only go through the motions of publishing papers without thinking about what they actually do. I do think there is a lot of problems with copyright and paywalls, and that journal publishers siphon too much money out of research projects, but saying they do so while not providing any service isn't going to help you find a
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Reviewers aren't paid. Academic editors aren't either. Awaitinbg reply confusing the role of technical editors and academic editors.
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Dono if Vegas is the model you want to follow.
I talked with one programmer for slot machines who said it is the worst software imaginable, and even the programmers have no clue how it really works. As long as the end result of thousands of runs does not favor the house by more then X% its "good enough", and the inspectors simply rely on accumulated results.
Of course, if you ever beat these machines and win the super grand bonus payout of a gazillion dollars, the casino will simply claim a software error, an
$100m threshold? (Score:2)
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Apply it to private-sector companies who receive funding, and their patents as well, imo.
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Then they shouldn't receive funds paid for in taxes, simple as that. If tax dollars go towards it, it should benefit the public. End of story.
Read what he said, instead of putting your own spin on it.
he said:
Just because something is paid for with public money doesn't mean the public is entitled to it.
Lots of things are paid for by public money. Nuclear weapons, fighter jets, germ warfare samples, Gold in Fort Knox, Missile launching GO codes.
Clearly you are not entitled to any of that.
There are many fields of research which probably fall into the same area of risk, and must be kept confidential. Which is exactly why there are national security exemptions to Obama's new found openness.
Release Constraints (Score:5, Insightful)
The second article notes that agencies can withhold papers that for protection of economic or national security. While this limitation might be reasonable if the order covers all Government-sponsored research, it only covers that research which has been published. If by "published" the order means "published in a public-domain journal" and the aim is to simply bring Government-sponsored research out from behind journal paywalls, then the research had already been screened by the funding agency to make sure nothing that needed such protection was released. So, any "bad guys" would already have access to the information simply by having a subscription to the journals in question. Thus, this is, or should be, a non-issue. If "published" includes reports submitted to the Government as part of contract requirements (status and final reports), that could be more problematic as these are not all generally releaseable. However, I think what's being addressed here is the issue of bringing research out from behind paywalls, something that should not have any problems meeting "protection of security" issues and has been a long time coming.
MOD PARENT UP (Score:2)
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If the research is behind a paywall, the Chinese are likely the only ones who have access to it anyway (and not because they're paying for it), which gives them a first-mover advantage over everyone else. Getting research out from behind a paywall simply levels the playing field.
No. You can go to any decent University. Go into one of a dozen libraries and access all those articles for free. Both in print and on line. You don't have to be a student or anything. You just have to care enough to bother.
Develop plans (Score:2)
Like, in 5 years, finish your plan which calls for a 20 year rollout of the information.
This doesn't DO anything.
"Politics is the art of the possible." (Score:5, Informative)
It's not perfect, but it's a big step forward. The first year of a paper's "life" is important, to be sure, but it doesn't mean the time after that is unimportant--I just submitted a paper with citations going back to 1970! So far the NIH open access policy has worked out pretty well. And the simple fact is that without some embargo period, the journal lobby would have gone insane ... and unfortunately, they've got enough of a voice in Congress to ensure that any requirement for instant open access would be shot down hard. This move, OTOH, will create some grumbling, but any attempt to reverse it by law will meet the same political fate that previous attempts to reverse the NIH policy have done, probably dying in committee without ever even making it to a floor vote. Which is, you know, a good thing. This may be a mediocre result for science, but Obama's a politician, not a scientist, and it's very good politics indeed. To quote another cliche, "half a loaf is better than none."
If there's anything I'm worried about, it's the usual list of "security" exemptions. There's some research which, for security reasons, never gets published in any journals, of course. (I've heard rumors that NSA has its own list of "journals" that are only ever seen by NSA mathematicians--they run exactly like journals in the outside world, just with a very limited audience. I have no idea if this is true, but it's believable given the sheer amount of brainpower NSA employs.) That's understandable, if annoying. But if an article is published in a journal that's available to the world as a whole, then claiming that keeping it paywalled contributes to "national, homeland, and economic security" in any way is absurd.
Why within a year and not immediately (Score:2)
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To give the journal publishers time to make money. That's pretty much all there is to it. Like I said in my previous post on this story, it's not a perfect solution by any means, but given the strength of the journal lobby it's the best we're going to get.
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The government evaluates research projects by the number of publications weighted by the "impact" of the journal. Many researchers (myself included) would be very happy to only publish in open journals, but if we did, our projects would appear less successful so our funding would suffer. The delay is probably an agreement with the major journals to give them exclusive rights. fro a while.
I don't like it, but it isn't easy to come up with a different way for funding agencies to evaluate R&D.
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Will outside of the research community read the publications?
Even if it's hard for you to believe it, the answer is positive (and I'm not doing it for monetary profit either)
Re:why? (Score:5, Insightful)
It is very easy to blow a couple hundred dollars to review tangential research that may have been relevant.
How many of these papers were written with government grants? Darned close to 100%. If you take public money for your research, then we should be able to access the paper without cost.
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And why then can't you just go to your local university library to get access? I mean really, it's not that hard. I'm not a big fan of the publishing industry, but I've never had trouble getting access to an article I needed. If the library doesn't have a subscription, interlibrary loan works pretty well.
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And why then can't you just go to your local university library to get access? I mean really, it's not that hard.
Compared with clicking on a pdf from the comfort of your own home or office, the convenience and speed factor is big. The real question is why you think publicly funded research should be locked up behind a paywall in the first place.
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The real question is why you think paying for something means it's locked up?
Because I have to pay to unlock it. Again, it was paid for with public research money, so the best value for the public is to have free access to it.
And that convince comes at a cost. It's idiotic. What if I don't own a computer or have internet access? That doesn't mean any research is locked up with no way to access it or that the government should issue me a computer or internet access.
Speaking of idiotic, you take the cake with this argument. The Internet is a sunk cost, and the vast majority of people have access to it. No, what is being done here are obstructions to accessing what are trivially copied bytes that could be hosted anywhere.
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No it's not. The more time I waste as scientist catering to people like you the less science I can perform.
The less public money goes to idiots like you then the better. Pay for your own damn research if you want to restrict access to the public.
The White House is paid for with public money. Does that mean I should be able to crash on Obamas couch?
You truly are an idiot. You'd think by now you'd understand the difference between copying information and physical property. The government doesn't assert copyright on information they produce exactly because the public paid for it.
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Guess what? You have no say in where research dollars go.
As an individual, very little, but Congress reacts all the time to public perception when assigning research dollars.
All of my research is accessible by the public. There is nothing stopping you from going to a library or buying the articles.
Keep on not getting. It was already paid for, by the public, you asshole. Placing restrictions on how the public can access it is not to the benefit of the public, and it's about time steps are being taken to stop this bullshit.
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Wow, that's your trump card? Some research is classified? Truly a dizzying intellect I'm dealing with here.
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It's just a fact that just because something was paid for with public money doesn't make you entitled to it for free.
It's an exception to a principle for security reasons. Government is paid for by the public for the benefit of the public, so maximum benefit to the public is the overriding concern. That's why the government doesn't assert copyright on documents.
Your argument amounts to that you're a petulant little child that is too cheap to pay for an article and too lazy to goto a library.
Your argument amounts to a spoiled child sucking on the teat of taxpayer money who doesn't want to share freely.
I suggest you do what that other petulant little child did and kill yourself.
You first. I really thought Aaron Schwartz went too far in his zeal to release documents, but the more I talk to douchebags like you the more I see him a
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And why then can't you just go to your local university library to get access?
Even if it is free as in beer (and they aren't always free as in beer), it's not zero-cost. It can take days or longer to order an article via interlibrary loan. And you have to go to the library to pick it up. Spending the money then and there can get you the article in minutes, and answer promptly questions you might have rather than you having to say for several days: "Gee, boss, I don't know if this is relevant to our work or not. The article hasn't been faxed to the library yet." Speed isn't everything
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You clearly don't understand how research works.
Having done it for a number of years, I'd have to disagree. There's a huge difference between having simple questions answered in minutes and answered in days or longer.
This isn't business. There are no bosses.
I had a boss, called a "research adviser", when I was doing my research. And I can't imagine what you think research is. Because you're ignoring both business-related research as well as research-oriented government organizations like CERN and NASA, which do have bosses. And classrooms, for that matter (the boss being the teacher). Hierarchi
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You do "deep literature searches" and you can't go to a university library for some reason?
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Will outside of the research community read the publications?
Yes. If you're genuinely interested in science, then relying on pop-sci reporting for your information will drastically mislead you. I don't know how many times I've seen a blurb about some science story on Slashdot, downloaded the original article (one of the advantages of being an academic at a large school that subscribes to most journals of interest) and seen that the summary was completely wrong.
And here's something you may not have thought of: those inside the research community don't always have a
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The problem is somebody has to pay for the publishing. It's not free. It costs money to hire editors, typesetters, to print paper copies, to run servers, to solicit peer reviewers and make editorial decisions, to maintain archives, to maintain searchable databases, to electronically archive older papers, to do artwork (yes, I know, but it's still part of it), to solicit news/reviews/perspective articles. So where is that money going to come from? Right now a chunck comes from the researchers themselves. The
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All publishing has costs, but those costs are by no means fixed, and neither are the prices. In general, traditional publishers have much higher profit margins than OA publishers do (note the "in general"--you can always find a specific OA publisher that's more profitable than a specific publisher, but I'm talking about trends) and while I don't claim by any means that all academic publishing should be non-profit, I also don't believe that universities and funding agencies should pay any more than necessar
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Even at my large research university I still can't get access to a huge number of journals. My advisor, for example, literally does not have online journal access to some papers he has wrote.
Does what it says on the tin. (Score:2)
Exactly what the President promised us in his memorandum titled "Transparency and Open Government ".
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/TransparencyandOpenGovernment [whitehouse.gov]
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Yes well, the most interesting paragraph is the last one:
This memorandum is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by a party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
Combined with the use of "should" instead of "Shall" in all the directions to agencies means the directive is effective null.
Handing out money left and right again? (Score:2)
Nah, I'm sure it will work this time.
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Awesome. Come into the lab and we'll do an MRI on you, gather some medical history, and publish it all. As a text file!
In response, everything will be classified SECRET! (Score:2)
in doublespeak that means... (Score:2)
Good now there going to change (Score:1)
yay scientific wellfare (Score:2)
spend your tax dollars developing it, and if its something useful its sold to suck the most profit out of your wallet by the now private company who developed it.
I like paying for stuff twice
Careful there (Score:2)
Timid & Unimaginative is just another way (Score:2)
of saying "no brainer".
Calling something the obvious thing to do and practically risk-free hardly counts as criticism in my book.
"timid and unimaginative" (Score:2)
not that easy (Score:2)