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Nokia Seeks More Leverage In the Forever Mobile Patent War 70

Posted by timothy
from the gonna-live-forever dept.
ericjones12398 writes "Struggling cell phone manufacturer Nokia launched a recent attack in both German and U.S. courts, filing lawsuits against HTC, RIM, and ViewSonic, alleging a laundry list of infringements on 45 patents pertaining to mobile software and hardware. Nokia also filed a meaty complaint against HTC at the International Trade Commission in Washington requesting select mobile devices be banned from sale in the U.S. According to Louise Pentland, Nokia's chief legal officer, 'Nokia had to file these actions to end the unauthorized use of our proprietary innovations and technologies, which have not been widely licensed.' Chief among the ITC complaint was patent 5,570,369, a power saver designed for the GSM system and based on TDMA technology. Although, on the surface, '369 appears to have been tossed in the recycle bin with other 2G relics, the 1996 patent helps serve as a warning shot to competitors recycling Nokia's technology. At the same time it reveals a possible ulterior motive to stop Google's momentum. HTC seems to be straight in the crosshairs of Nokia's legal assault, with three relevant – and curious — phones singled out in the ITC complaint. HTC's Sensation 4G, Amaze 4G and Inspire 4G are all driven by Android. While similar phones based on the Windows Phone platform were missing from Nokia's accusations."
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Nokia Seeks More Leverage In the Forever Mobile Patent War

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    Another failing company handed over to it's lawyers

    • by Anonymous Coward
      Yep, when you can't compete anymore and litigation is all you have left you know it's over.
    • Re:Sad... (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 16, 2012 @03:31PM (#40345951)

      You want to know the real reason Nokia is failing? Because they jumped off the dock when the SS Windows Phone was just poise to sink anyway. Windows Phone is a pile of shit. Here's why:

      OS LIMITATIONS

      1. No true multitasking for 3rd party apps - they re frozen in the background.

      2. No Divx/Xvid video codec support. Zune will convert with loss of quality.

      3. No mass storage mode.

      4. No micro-SD card support.

      5. Only support up to 16GB storage .

      6. No filemanager. Directory system is totally opaque.

      7. Need Zune to transfer files. Zune will only transfer photos, videos & music. All other files need to email/upload to yourself.

      8. Your contact details are automatically uploaded to cloud service whether you like it or not.

      9. Limited to 800x480 resolution.

      10. Voice search is hardwired to Bing.

      11. Cannot use any MP3 file as ringtone except those with strict constraints.

      12. Cannot set static IP address so no connection to ad-hoc networks.

      13. No VPN support for this âoecorporate enterpriseâ phone.

      14. Cannot sync directly with Outlook without syncing to Cloud

      15. Totally closed OS, cannot sideload apps outside MS Marketplace.

      16. System font size cannot be changed.

      17. Images and photos cannot be renamed in the phone.

      18. Windows Live ID account cannot change country once set.

      19. No centralized notification page.

      20. Alarm clock cannot work when phone is turned off. All Nokia Symbian and Meego phones can do this.

      21. The idle screen is completely blank and cannot display time or notifications.

      22. Only photos allowed as email attachments, documents not allowed.

      23. No way to stream audio to the majority of car audio systems as the most common Bluetooth rSAP profile is not implemented.

      24. Cannot stream audio from video playback to Bluetooth devices as A2DP profile is not implemented.

      25. No support for full on-device encryption required for secure applications like mobile banking and online payment.

      26. Cannot use Bluetooth keyboard (no HID profile)

      27. Cannot silence ringtone or alarm by flipping the phone.

      28. Very limited customization option.

      29. Cannot be upgraded to WP8 (Apollo)

      USABILITY ISSUES

      30. No always visible status bar for battery life, signal strength, carrier ID, 2G/3G wi-fi, Bluetooth on.

      31. Taskmanager has no option to shut down apps you donâ(TM)t want running in the background.

      32. Search and Back button cannot be de-activated in apps or games and easily touched by accident which interrupt your user experience.

      33. Lockscreen need to be activated to show missed call/sms notification.

      34. No way to close an app except pressing back button all the way to the first screen.

      35. Tiny fonts in messages is very hard to read for those over 45.

      36. Cannot create and save playlists on the phone.

      37. Playlist can only be edited when you are playing it.

      38. Cannot search your music collection on the phone, only in the Marketplace.

      39. Cannot close music player, can only pause. Music player on lockscreen will stay until you reboot. Be careful not to touch it in a meeting.

      40. No draggable progress bar for current track playing and no indication which track in an album is currently playing

      41. Cannot lock screen orientation.

      42. Online and phone contacts are mixed together with no ability to filter.

      43. Search button in dialer does not search contacts for dialing, but search call history.

      44. Cannot save draft sms messages.

      45. Call history only show phone number type. If a contact has multiple phone nos. for a type the number used is unknown.

      46. Cannot recognize phone numbers in sms or email to save or use as calling number.

      47. Text messages can only be deleted

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Jebus, it's really that bad? If that list is true then it makes their decision to ditch the N9 even more dumber than it already was, since the N9 can do most of those things. Unbelievable. How on earth MS ever managed to get their 5th column Elop as Nokia boss I'll never know.

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by Anonymous Coward

        So f***ing true.
        The n9 is STILL a better phone.

      • by drkstr1 (2072368)
        Your post was interesting until, I got to point 22, which contradicts your point 7. I wrote the rest off as BS after that.
        • by oakgrove (845019)
          I think he's saying you can only send photo attachments but you can receive things other than photos. No contradiction at all.
        • by rtb61 (674572)

          Take a deep breath and consider that the commenter did that detailed layout of faults for 'FREE'. How much effort do you demand they do. Obviously two things are going on here M$ has had to cripple the OS to squeeze it in due to infamous Windows bloat and you can just imagine Uncle Fester screaming upgrades, upgrades, upgrades, features left out on purpose to be sold in the next upgrade.

          I remember when people said all these bullshit patents were defensive patents. Well guess what, douche bag lawyers are

      • I have one and it works great. I got it because it's fun to write apps for. If I had to write apps in java for Android I'd shoot myself. iOS wouldn't be to bad, the painful part is not being able to do stuff as fast as I can in .NET but that would probably get better over time if I used it everyday. Using MonoTouch wouldn't be bad either, I have a project planned and want to get MT a try.
  • Missing Story (Score:2, Interesting)

    by busyqth (2566075)
    I was just going to post on the story "Single Day Exploits Largest Customer: U.S. Government", posted by timothy, and suddenly it wasn't there anymore.
  • Patent Attacks (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TaoPhoenix (980487) <TaoPhoenix@yahoo.com> on Saturday June 16, 2012 @01:58PM (#40345419) Journal

    "Has Been" launched a patent attack against "who" "Who" and "Who".

    I don't trust anything Nokia does anymore now that Elop is there.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    If your company is sturggling a legal battle would be the last thing you would want to spend your time on. Even winning wont make people buy your products.

    • Re:Struggling (Score:4, Informative)

      by Deorus (811828) on Saturday June 16, 2012 @02:44PM (#40345647)

      Yeah, but it could allow you to capitalize on the royalties and settlements like a true patent troll. Rumor has it that Nokia earned more from its patent settlement with Apple than from selling Windows phones [appleinsider.com], just like Microsoft earns more collecting royalties from Android vendors than from actual Windows Phone 7 licensing.

      • by Urkki (668283)

        Yeah, but it could allow you to capitalize on the royalties and settlements like a true patent troll.

        Patent trolling requires bogus patents, and is based on it being cheaper to pay up, than to challenge the bogus patent with risk of losing. I didn't check, but it's more than likely that these patents are actually results of genuine research, actual innovations, just the stuff patents are supposed to protect.

  • No Windows Phone (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jesseck (942036) on Saturday June 16, 2012 @02:53PM (#40345701)

    While similar phones based on the Windows Phone platform were missing from Nokia's accusations.

    Of course not... Nokia and Windows are in a partnership. I imagine the *official* reason Windows Phone isn't mentioned is because Nokia already "licensed" Microsoft (and therefore Windows Phone) to use said patents, and Nokia is allowing Microsoft to indemnify Windows Phone manufacturers from prosecution for using those patents.

  • by bmo (77928) on Saturday June 16, 2012 @02:54PM (#40345707)

    So Elop is taking a former powerhouse of a company and turning it into a patent troll. I'm so fucking impressed. It's as if Elop is *deliberately* trying to sink the company by making stupid decisions and avoiding core competencies.

    This is the most rapid "controlled flight into terrain" that I've seen a large company do.

    The "Burning Platform" memo went out in February of 2011. Look at the chart before - Nokia was slowly digging itself out of the hole. Look at the chart after. Just look at it.

    http://ompldr.org/vZWQzcw/charting.the.charts.png [ompldr.org]

    Source: Yahoo Finance NOK chart. Linear scale. 2 year.

    That's right, Elop, there's your fuckin' record.

    Good job destroying a company.

    --
    BMO

    • by Anonymous Coward

      The board of Nokia will be in there with them. This is multi billion dollar fraud.

      Nokia was increasing sales prior to Elop. It was losing market share yes but was increasing sales and had credible alternatives to Symbian to switch to.

      Now, symbian phones are still outselling windows phone despite the advertising but they are bundling the figures together to hide the failure that is WP.

    • by SpzToid (869795)

      Elop never fails to disappoint. Elop's strategy never fails to disappoint.

      The Elop era reminds of the Spindler/Amelio era of Apple, and you should have seent he stock price and value of Apple at the time. Look up Michael Spindler or Gil Ameilo in wikipedia, as a way to 'document' the return of Steve Jobs to Apple.

      It is easy to take a great company straight into the ground, it has been done many times before. At least history has also shown us clear examples of what is possible under the right leadership and

      • by bmo (77928)

        Meanwhile, Moody's gives Nokia a kick in the teeth, deservedly.

        Nokia downgraded to junk
        HELSINKI (AP) â" Moody's ratings agency on Friday downgraded Nokia's debt grade to junk status, citing greater than anticipated pressure on the struggling cellphone maker's earnings after it announced plans for major cuts and global layoffs. It kept the outlook negative, meaning it could downgrade it again.

        http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-06-15/moodys-downgrades-nokia-to-junk-status [businessweek.com]

        (Just read that on another board

  • News of patent filings...do they matter?

    Seriously, when will this patent mess be fixed (or will only 3 companies be left standing...Oceania, Eurasia and East Asia?)
  • by gmuslera (3436) on Saturday June 16, 2012 @03:10PM (#40345809) Homepage Journal
    When was the last time a Microsoft used a proxy to attack a rival in the past? Well, at least Nokia have more letters than SCO to complain about.
  • Former producer turning patent troll is the last gasp of a dying company.
  • They just offered up patents for sale - this may be a move to prove to potential suitors the value of their portfolio.

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