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Last Chance To Stop SOPA From Coming To Canada 86

Posted by Soulskill
from the pretend-stopping-it-will-make-the-leafs-and-the-habs-win dept.
An anonymous reader writes "This weekend may be the last chance for Canadians to fight back against SOPA-style laws being added to Canadian copyright law, with the final hearing scheduled for Monday. In recent days, the copyright lobby has demanded website blocking, warrantless access to subscriber information, and unlimited damage awards. Michael Geist has the details on who to contact and Open Media has launched a campaign to encourage Canadians to speak out before Monday's Bill C-11 meeting. The group makes it easy to speak out against SOPA style reforms, harms to fair dealing, and unduly restrictive digital lock rules."
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Last Chance To Stop SOPA From Coming To Canada

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    That's so cute, you believe you are part of the political process, and that the elected aristocrats actually have a reason to answer to you.

    Nope, not even in Canada.

    • Where is/are ANONYMOUS when we need him/her/them?!? A little technological pressure could help...
      • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

        by Anonymous Coward

        In jail. In the USA.

        Next question?

      • by nman64 (912054) *

        Or, some foolish script kiddies costing businesses money could fuel the arguments for more government regulation, control and interference. Legislators, lobbyists, CEOs and others of that ilk do not see Anonymous as crusaders of freedom representing the public's interests, but rather as obnoxious criminals pushing their own agenda.

        • That's funny because most citizens thing the corporations are obnoxious criminals pushing their own agenda.

          Everyone has an agenda. Everyone is a criminal if you pass enough laws.

          Even http://noagendashow.com/ [noagendashow.com]

        • by nman64 (912054) *

          Or, some foolish legislators, lobbyists and CEOs costing businesses money could fuel the arguments for less government regulation, control and interference. Script kiddies, Anonymous and others of that ilk do not see legislators, lobbyists and CEOs as crusaders of freedom representing the public's interests, but rather as obnoxious criminals pushing their own agenda.

          There's the other perspective. The problem is, when it comes to making laws, the legislators, lobbyists and CEOs are the ones in control. When Anonymous acts, it will be the perspective of the legislators that will affect the laws formed in response.

          "Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun." - Ash

  • Harper's in Office (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 09, 2012 @01:35PM (#39303299)

    If he wants the law to pass, it'll get done, despite what anyone, even his own party wants. The opposite is also true.

    • by billcopc (196330) <vrillco@yahoo.com> on Friday March 09, 2012 @02:43PM (#39304319) Homepage

      This.

      He must be stopped. And by stopped I mean thrown in prison. And by prison I mean not one of the for-profit prisons he's established. And by established I mean sold to private interests. And by private interests I mean his cronies.

      He is George W. Bush with slightly better english diction.

      • Responding to you because of the Anonymous Faggot who is attempting to spread disinformation.

        http://www.straight.com/article-119340/stephen-harper-opens-door-to-prison-privatization [straight.com]

        This is what the above poster is talking about.

        Yes Stephen Harper IS privatizing prisons.

        NO it is NOT a good idea.

        • by billcopc (196330)

          It's cool. In the last few years, I've come to instinctively assume that any and all AC posts are trolls, unless it's some sensitive, NDA-type topic, and even then I assume a 50% probability of trolliness.

          Y'know, it's times like this, I wish Canada had crazy outspoken conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones. For all his mad ranting, he does manage to disseminate a lot of dirty facts about the government. Harper's appointees are so nasty, yet nobody seems to know or care. Look at utter shitbags like Bruce C

  • good luck Canada!
  • by elrous0 (869638) * on Friday March 09, 2012 @01:37PM (#39303329)

    You think we're helping you after what you did to our Baldwins?!?!?

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Canada has apologized numerous times for Bryan Adams.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        then they sent down that Justin Beiber chick!

        • by forkfail (228161)

          Have to blame ourselves for what happened there.

          After all, compare and contrast Beiber's media attention in the US with say Rush...

          • by snemiro (1775092)
            well....Justin's haircut was much better than Neil's....maybe Alex could do the same!...No hope for Geddy.....
  • by msobkow (48369) on Friday March 09, 2012 @01:43PM (#39303427) Homepage Journal

    If the DMCA clauses pass, I'll still have a right to make backups. It'll be harder to get the software for ripping, but it won't slow me down in the least, or worry me at all.

    What it will do is encourage me to torrent download like a fiend to save the hassle of ripping and encoding my own DVDs for access via media server.

  • by jpmorgan (517966) on Friday March 09, 2012 @01:47PM (#39303489) Homepage

    C-11 is nothing like SOPA.

    Don't believe me? Read it for yourself [parl.gc.ca].

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 09, 2012 @01:50PM (#39303529)

    Canada has been taken over by a radical bunch of neo-cons. They have committed innumerable acts of election fraud in what has been effectively a coup.

    This SOPA-like shit is nothing in the grander scale of things.

    Now is Canada's time to shed some blood to refresh the tree of liberty in this country. An unimaginable change from a mere 10 years ago when we complained about the other party in government kowtowing to corporate wishes.

    Watch for the con-bots to appear claiming that they're the victim in this somehow. Or how John Doe got a speeding ticket, con-bots murdered someone, so everyone's a criminal, blah blah blah.

    Fuck, it makes me sick thinking about what's happened to this country. Honestly fucking want to puke.

  • If we can get Liberals and NDP to scream **bloody murder*** together with regular citizens, then it might dawn on those in Ottawa that this will hurt their re-election chances. Just a thought ...
    • Re:Liberals+NDP (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Maow (620678) on Friday March 09, 2012 @02:33PM (#39304175) Journal

      If we can get Liberals and NDP to scream **bloody murder*** together with regular citizens, then it might dawn on those in Ottawa that this will hurt their re-election chances. Just a thought ...

      Bill C-30 will eventually get passed, some time before the next election.

      The clause inside it that allows the ISP "raids" to be performed by anyone designated by the minister is a dead giveaway, in conjunction with the massive election frauds, that it will be used by Conservative hacks to dig dirt on political opponents.

      There will be no more free & fair elections for the Conservatives to have to worry about losing. Remember the 2+ years of attack ads against Ignatief? Just wait until they can scour the records of all communications of all their opponents, coupled with planting evidence where none exists and the Cons expect a permanent majority.

      Anything less would leave them exposed to prosecution on criminal charges of everything up to treason.

      • Don't forget how McKay got the Air Force to dig through their emails to see if anyone could find out if his critics had ever flown in a helicopter.

    • If we can get Liberals and NDP to scream **bloody murder*** together with regular citizens, then it might dawn on those in Ottawa that this will hurt their re-election chances. Just a thought ...

      Not just that, they (including the Bloc and the Greens and perhaps the Pirate Party of Canada) should get together and already draft an amendment that will turn back all of the C11 pain points, e.g. the digital lock provision in non-infringing circumstances and any amendments the CRIA and their ilk propose.

      This is not a joke. Make the text publicly available, perhaps request comments, and when finalized, for the record pledge that as soon as the Coalition of the Unwilling gets a majority in parliament, this

  • Anyone living just south of Canada... hell, everyone should be watching this closely. Who's to say it won't come to your neck of the woods?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 09, 2012 @02:02PM (#39303723)

    http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/Home.aspx?Language=E&Parl=41&Ses=1

    Not that you shouldn't contact your MP, but this thing has got a bit to go yet.

  • by Lunaritian (2018246) * on Friday March 09, 2012 @02:15PM (#39303925)

    The main problem is that every time a country adopts stupid laws like this, it becomes easier to pass it in other countries too.

    So please, Canada, make sure this law won't pass. This law isn't a threat just to you, it's a threat to the whole world.

  • by gmarsh (839707) on Friday March 09, 2012 @02:19PM (#39303979)

    I think C-11 is an absolutely horrible bill.

    - It allows warrantless monitoring of a person's internet activity, which is an inexcusable invasion of privacy.
    - According to a law professor I've spoken to, it makes warrantless monitoring of my telephone legal since I'm using a VOIP telephone system provided by the cable company, and VOIP is just extra internet traffic. This is despite the fact that warrantless monitoring of a landline is highly illegal.
    - Oh, and if I burn a copy of a DVD I own, I've broken a digital lock and I'm now I'm potentially liable for unlimited damages. They were nice enough to add a backup provision to C-11, except it's not applicable if you're breaking a digital lock.

    Not to mention the fact it's being thrust on us by a majority government that got less than 50% of the overall vote at election time, may not actually have a legitimate majority thanks to the ongoing robocall scandal... and the whole fucking bill is being pushed on us with "support it or you're with the pedophiles" bullshit.

    And here's what I've done about it:

    - I've written my local (Conservative) MP about the bill, and got a template reply. Wrote back again, no response.
    - I wrote a former (NDP) MP in my previous district, and got back a really great "100% with you on this, but unfortunately they've got a majority so all we can do is whine and complain in the house" e-mail.

    What the frig else should I do?

    • by dryeo (100693)

      Pray the Supreme Court shows some sanity? Seems most parts of this law are unconstitutional from unreasonable searches to stepping on the Provinces toes by passing legislation regulating private property.
      Also be a bonus if a bunch of election results were thrown out forcing bye-elections and removing the Conservatives majority but I doubt that that would happen, they''ll just go on about it being anti-democratic and prorogue Parliament until people forget the truth and believe their attack ads.
      I'll write my

    • by MrKevvy (85565)

      - I wrote a former (NDP) MP in my previous district, and got back a really great "100% with you on this, but unfortunately they've got a majority so all we can do is whine and complain in the house" e-mail.
      What the frig else should I do?

      Harper was found in Contempt of Parliament years ago and nothing was ever done about it. This should be reopened and actioned.

    • by alexo (9335)

      What the frig else should I do?

      Here are some suggestions, in no particular order:

      * Spread the message. Contact people electronically and in person to let them know that C-30, C-11 and their ilk are evil incarnate. Use facts but don't be afraid of hyperbole.

      * Get a commitment from the Liberal, NDP, Green and independent candidates in your riding to fight to revoke the parts of these bills you find unacceptable should they get elected, in return to your helping their campaign. Then choose one and HELP THEIR CAMPAIGN.

      * Talk to young peop

    • by Maow (620678)

      What the frig else should I do?

      Write the Governor General info@gg.ca [mailto] and demand he dissolve Parliament.

      Dunno if he can do it, but it's one of the few non-drastic measures left.

      (Fantasizing a bit for next bit here:)
      Maybe ask a bunch of active service Afghan vets to storm Parliament and arrest Conservatives: a military coup would be preferable to what happened last May 2nd.

      Plus the irony of Mr "Support our Troops or you support the Taliban" Harper being arrested for treason by... our troops would be delicious beyond description.

      Actually, t

  • My Email to my MP (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Petersko (564140) on Friday March 09, 2012 @02:36PM (#39304221)
    I'd like to take a moment to address the question of C-11. I have, in fact, read it in its entirety, since media coverage is never without bias.

    http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Docid=5144516&file=4 [parl.gc.ca]

    I'm sure you've heard from people who are far more rabid in their disdain for this legislation than I, and you've likely heard all of the arguments against it.

    I will therefore restrict myself to declaring that, should this legislation pass, I will not be voting for you in the future. That is an unconditional promise.

    Yours,

    Petersko
    • by alexo (9335)

      I will therefore restrict myself to declaring that, should this legislation pass, I will not be voting for you in the future. That is an unconditional promise.

      No good. You voice is just a single one, it will not influence their decision.

      Instead, make a pledge to your MP that you will spend your time, energy and resources to help THEIR OPPONENTS FOR SEVEN GENERATIONS win.
      Then follow up.

      I go into a little more details here [slashdot.org].

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 09, 2012 @04:08PM (#39305611)

    Before I get modded down, I just want to know that Truth is the first casualty in this war. Here are some facts:

    - This is NOT the last chance to get Bill C-10 from getting to Canada, it has to go through the Senate (You screwed this up once Senate, don't screw it again). If they change even a word, it must go back to the House of Commons and start over.
    - Online surveillance is NOT in Bill C-10, it's in Bill C-30 (I don't that bill either)
    - This ISN'T SOPA, it's DMCA (annoying...)
    - No, Anonymous wouldn't help this situation, since they tried to pressure Vic Toews on Bill C-30, and now they have an excuse to ram it through. Don't do it for Bill C - 11.

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