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$10,000 Prize For Connecting Businesses With Government Data 45

Posted by samzenpus
from the working-for-the-man dept.
First time accepted submitter InsertCleverUsername writes "The Department of Commerce has announced a $10,000 contest for developers making apps to utilize Commerce and other publicly available data and information to support American businesses. Developers must use at least one Department of Commerce dataset to create an application that assists businesses and/or improves the service delivery of Business.USA.gov to the business community. Developers may choose any platform. A list of developer-friendly data sets can be found on the Business Data and Tools page of Data.gov."
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$10,000 Prize For Connecting Businesses With Government Data

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  • what government needs all the info about you for.

  • Woohoo $10,000 (Score:3, Insightful)

    by GeneralTurgidson (2464452) on Sunday March 04, 2012 @11:12AM (#39239091)
    To do a $50,000 contract job plus on ongoing support hours. This is a pretty shitty IT bailout
    • Re:Woohoo $10,000 (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 04, 2012 @11:19AM (#39239129)
      It's even less than that. $5,000 for first prize, $3,000 for second, and $2,000 for third. So the DOC gets three applications on the cheap. $5,000 is a lot of money in India, but it's chump change in the US.
    • Hey $10,000 isn't too bad for the work, at least if you compare it to other things, like the X-Prize.

  • Web services (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Nerdfest (867930) on Sunday March 04, 2012 @11:16AM (#39239113)

    Wouldn't they be further ahead to just publish their data as simple web services as a starting point? I see that some already seem to be, but many are just CSV files, zip files, etc . You never know when new data is available, or there's corrections, etc. It's also a little surprising that the number of downloads for the first file I tried was zero.

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Quick'n'dirty solution :) https://developers.google.com/fusiontables/

  • Wikileaks? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Alex Belits (437) * on Sunday March 04, 2012 @11:22AM (#39239145) Homepage

    I mean, they do it already.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Vivek Kundra is a judge. Enough said.

  • "well, we held this competition, and no US citizens applied, so we must have a huge skills shortage...."

  • by decora (1710862) on Sunday March 04, 2012 @11:56AM (#39239341) Journal

    the way i hear it, thousands of government bureaucrats get a $40,000 "prize" every year, whether they actually accomplish this goal or not.

  • by fhage (596871) on Sunday March 04, 2012 @12:15PM (#39239481)

    6. Intellectual Property Rights: All submissions to the DOC Business Apps Challenge remain the intellectual property of the individuals or organizations that developed them. By registering, consenting to the terms of the challenge, and entering a Submission, however, the Participant agrees that DOC reserves an irrevocable, nonexclusive, royalty-free license to use, copy, distribute to the public, create derivative works from, and publicly display and perform a Submission for a period of one year starting on the date of the announcement of contest winners.

    So, for $10k they get bunches of apps which can be distributed royalty-free for a year. If an app is popular, they can change the labels (create derivative works) and continue on. Only 3 developers get any money. Everyone else may have their their app distributed with no compensation.

    If you plan on paying off loans or feeding your family by developing software, you should avoid these contests. Leave the submissions to the 9th grade web design classes.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      However, If you wish to make a name for yourself and can create a high quality application that is adopted by the federal government...
      I think you'd be showing future employers (or venture(vulture) capitalists) that you have the ability to create stellar applications.

      Sometimes doing something for advertising is more important than for the pure profit. Comments like yours never seem to take that into account

    • So, for $10k they get bunches of apps which can be distributed royalty-free for a year. If an app is popular, they can change the labels (create derivative works) and continue on.

      I agree with you all of it but the part when you talk about "derivative works" because it is not correct. You cannot modify a copyrighted work (derivative work) and claim that the new modified work is yours. The copyright law covers that part as well.

  • by koan (80826)

    Ties ins with business and government data, privatized police forces and military, Super PACS, we are living in a Plutocracy.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Note: I understand the anecdotal nature of this comment. The problematic, US Government (USG) employees (mentally retired but still obstructing progress) are what we call "institutionalized."

    This program, to pay people to develop apps based USG data sets and applications, is not a good idea.

    USG cannot and will not guarantee access-to nor permanence-of data and applications.

    Engineering firms used data sets and applications via analog or digital files for years. Engineers and firms swapped their copies of dat

  • by tomhath (637240) on Sunday March 04, 2012 @02:03PM (#39240453)
    The article links to a White House blog, which is nothing more than a parroting and link to the real information [challenge.gov]. Must be an election year.
  • This amount is laughable. I have a few ideas for web crawler algorithms that can compile specific government data across single US government agency sites. If i were to package them into subscription based web services then I could hopefully make 50 times that by starting a business.
  • I once tried to convince someone trying to get into programming after a career of underemployment that programming was about solving other people's problems. If you can't find satisfaction over solving problems you didn't imagine yourself, you're not going to like programming for other people. As he was coming up with his portfolio project to demonstrate his knowledge I tried to convince him to solve a problem potential employers could relate to. But he thought it more important to bring his vision to the w

  • Perhaps we should change the historic documents to read of the business, for the business, by the business. And the people pay taxes to be the enemy.

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