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LulzSec Offers to Take Revenge On Sega Hackers 244

Posted by samzenpus
from the enemy-of-my-enemies dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Sega Corp joins the ranks of video game companies to be hacked in recent time with one small twist, it seems LulzSec was not behind this one. They reached to Sega's official twitter account and offered to destroy the hackers that attacked them. From the article: 'In its offer to assist Sega, the Tweet from Lulz hinted that its leaders might count themselves among a small but highly loyal group of gamers who still play on the aging Dreamcast console. "Sega - contact us," Lulz said in its Tweet to the video game developer. "We want to help you destroy the hackers that attacked you. We love the Dreamcast, these people are going down."'"
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LulzSec Offers to Take Revenge On Sega Hackers

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  • Am I the only one? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Am I the only person who thinks that LulzSec is way out of line? It appalls me how much press coverage they get, and for what, exactly? Giving a lot of hard-working people a hell of a lot more grief than they deserve? LulzSec is not Anonymous, who at least pretends to have a purpose, and they shouldn't be treated as such. They are doing it purely for the "Lulz" and don't deserve any more recognition than they already gain from their twitter feed.

    They will be caught eventually, and when they are, I sincerely

    • by gilesjuk (604902)

      It could end up that large organisations will have to pay lots of money to hire these sort of people and they will be only available to the highest bidder.

      • I seriously doubt they will hire groups like this, but I do think they will hire cyber assassins. Follow this thinking. Here you are a multi-million dollar company and you will lose millions from their attacks. Feature like Sony, being attacked for a straight month. Governments appear too slow or retarded to be of assistance.

        So enter the cyber assassin, a lone wolf who can hunt them down, probably infiltrate their ranks, counter hack them, find them and assassinate them. Frankly I am shocked it hasn't happe

        • jesus man, where do you get all that stuff?

    • by rtfa-troll (1340807) on Sunday June 19, 2011 @05:45PM (#36493432)

      LulzSec is not Anonymous, who at least pretends to have a purpose, and they shouldn't be treated as such.

      Ah yes; Because "Anonymous" says it, it must be true.

      They are doing it purely for the "Lulz" and don't deserve any more recognition than they already gain from their twitter feed.

      They will be caught eventually, and when they are, I sincerely hope something terrible happens to them.

      Maybe, five years ago, because they released other people's data, I could be persuaded to agree with you. Now, we have the situation where most cracking is taking place in private. If LulzSec is taking advantage of a breach for the "Lulz" then someone else has already done the same for money, profit and crime. Clearly the hacker crackdown and all the associated arrests of people for public hacking have been counter-productive. Without people like Lulz, we would never really see how bad the security is in the various big companies. Sure, if they get caught they deserve a slap on the wrist, mostly for the stupdity of getting caught. The people who should be punished are the people running the companies they hack (a bit) and the people providing security and operating systems to those people (lots). I really don't see the point in punishing people just because they make a public noise about what they did.

      • Mod parent up!
        While I can't condone their actions, I see them as the canary in the coal mine: If we just ignore their message, China or some other country will be the next one to do it, and they'll do a *lot* worse.

      • by localman (111171)

        This is why I go around town knifing tires. To show how poor security is.

        No, sorry, I don't buy it. I agree with the original poster - I hope something terrible happens to them. If they have the skills to do this, they could find something much better to do. Vandals don't deserve any respect or support.

        • Well, let's look at the damage they have done. Sony's online gaming platform has been down for a while. EvE was under pressure. Aside of that, and maybe I have missed something, no real damage was done. A lot was compromised, but so far I can't remember a single report of a credit card that has been used illegally, I can't remember and "real" damage, real meaning monetary damage to any user of any of the services mentioned.

          The only ones that actually suffered damages were companies. Companies who failed to

          • There have been compromised paypal accounts due to people using the same passwords between sites, so there has been real monetary damages to some people.

            • by elucido (870205) *

              There have been compromised paypal accounts due to people using the same passwords between sites, so there has been real monetary damages to some people.

              Perhaps they should use a better password. The fact is, most of us couldn't have a job if lulz security did not exist.

              Who cares WHO or WHAT lulz security is? They are on a crime spree, and it most likely will result in an arms race which will be good for black and whitehats.
              At the same time it needs to happen for the same reason the browser wars had to happen. Innovation will come from this and it's already starting.

          • Most hackers work in information security. If they were former hackers or current, blackhat or whitehat, there isn't a lot of difference besides that one group gets paid over the table and follows the law while the other gets paid by the black market or not at all and does not follow laws.

            Like Yin and Yang they both co-exist to the benefit of each other.

        • by Yvanhoe (564877)
          Ah, the car analogy... How can any debate about IT security be complete about it ?

          Companies ask personal informations claiming "it is safe, we are a big company, we do security stuff, give us credit card numbers, you can trust us.". Well, no, you can't, and lulzsec proves it. In an immature way, full of posture and teenage bragging, but they prove it. They are acting like assholes, but they are mostly harmless and it is a luck for us that they are not there to make a mayehem. Except on Sony, for who I can
      • by Dan541 (1032000)

        So can I throw a brick through your window?
        Seriously it's just to show how crummy an average home's security is.

        Don't punish me; punish the glass manufacturer.

    • by Palmsie (1550787) on Sunday June 19, 2011 @05:45PM (#36493440)

      I actually think just the opposite. The origins of the hacker spirit have long been washed away. Lulz is exposing a lot of things people don't like to hear - that all you thought was secure was in fact not at all (SQL injections anyone?). This is especially important as end-user services move to the cloud. Innovation is a result of people like Lulz forcing otherwise complacent experts to upgrade their infrastructure. We need more people like them imho. If the people who worked for these companies were so hard working Lulz wouldn't be breaking into them on an almost daily basis. I'm glad they don't have a purpose, they don't need one either. Some men just want to watch the world burn (I couldn't resist).

      • by localman (111171)

        I look forward to the day when, thanks to LulzSec, everyone needs to have three-factor authentication for every website and a full 20% of the cost of all goods goes towards security.

        I've lived in places where everyone has bars on the windows and razor wire fences around their propert. It's not a net win for society. Read up on the Broken Window Fallacy.

        • in the modern economy. Take the United States: Population growth since 1990 has been about 20%, but the size of the economy has doubled. Meanwhile wages are stagnant. The wealth has gone somewhere; specifically to the top 5%. It then becomes the job of society to figure out how to pry that wealth from the hands of that lucky 5% (or, alternatively, society degenerates into a handful of very wealthy and a mass of very, very poor; e.g. a rising tide sinks all but the biggest boats).

          I suppose broken windows
      • If you don't like Lulz security hire some hackers to stop them. Actually spend the money to secure your data and your network. Most of these hackers weren't from zero-day exploits that no one knew about, but even if they were they shouldnt have been this effective.

    • by Vahokif (1292866)

      ...Anonymous, who at least pretends to have a purpose, and they shouldn't be treated as such. They are doing it purely for the "Lulz"

      You really don't know anything about Anonymous do you?

    • if they charge LulzSec with 50 counts of violating various laws, then those will become precedent.

      it often happens in legal history that when an unpopular defendant (like a terrorist) is put on trial, some of their rights are 'bent' or 'violated', but that precedent is then used subsequently against ordinary people.

      we can see this in the Thomas Drake NSA Whistleblower case. Some of the precedents used against him by the government were set in terrorism cases like the Moussaoui case... especially precedents

      • it often happens in legal history that when an unpopular defendant (like a terrorist) is put on trial, some of their rights are 'bent' or 'violated', but that precedent is then used subsequently against ordinary people.

        That's a very frustrating aspect of precedence in the courts. Unlike most artificial learning systems, legal precedence has the result of training the courts to use the oldest ideas rather than the newest. It also has the potential to cause mistakes to be remembered more than successes ("

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      LulzSec is not Anonymous, who at least pretends to have a purpose, and they shouldn't be treated as such. They are doing it purely for the "Lulz" and don't deserve any more recognition than they already gain from their twitter feed.

      Back in the day, this sort of random discrimination and griefing the the lulz was exactly what Anonymous did, then it turned into some crusade for political causes. LulzSec is more like the Anonymous of yesterday than the Anonymous of today is.

    • by DrBoumBoum (926687) on Sunday June 19, 2011 @06:11PM (#36493568) Journal
      Am I the only one to find them funny? I mean they're a change from Anonymous and their oh-so-serious "we don't forget, expect us" bullshit. Well I can't help but giggle at their seemingly random, no-head-and-tail string of attacks. They are doing it purely for the "Lulz" and do appear quite good at what they're doing.

      They will be caught eventually, and when they are, I sincerely hope something terrible happens to them.

      Man you should chill out a bit and keep your anger directed towards Cheney, his banker friends and the likes who actually screw you up the ass, not a bunch of teenagers playing some high-profile pranks.

      • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 19, 2011 @06:25PM (#36493614)

        keep your anger directed towards Cheney, his banker friends and the likes who actually screw

        You mean the same "banker" friends of Obama (Soros, Geitner et al)? How is that "hope and change" working for you? I've seen changes, but no hope. And dude, Cheney hasn't been in office over two years, get a new horse to ride.

        • by vgerclover (1186893) on Sunday June 19, 2011 @07:28PM (#36494010)
          I find it tiresome how people think that if you criticize one person, you must love its opponent. Or how somehow attacking one opponent somehow exonerates the other one. If that's your only defense (not talking necessarily about you, although I do find the Republicans that can be seen from abroad disgusting), them being only good because the other guys did worse, you should rethink why you supported them on the first place.
          • by amiga3D (567632)

            Agreed! A plague on both parties! This is the problem with US politics, the two party shuffle. Too bad the sheeple will never figure out that they are being divided and conquered. The powers behind both parties just keep picking two sides of different issues to get people fighting over so they never notice their wealth and their future are going down the drain. The same people who denounce President Obama now will, if he gets replaced with a republican, praise that one as he continues the job of rippin

            • This is the problem with US politics, the two party shuffle. Too bad the sheeple will never figure out that they are being divided and conquered.

              The two-party system is a symptom, not a cause. See this encyclopedia article on Duverger's Law [wikipedia.org] for a better argument than I can provide. The presence of this symptom does not imply that people are sheeple, as it is something of a prisoner's dilemma.

            • by mug funky (910186)

              sheeple is a fucking hateful word.

              it implies that you believe you're the only thinking Man among the flock of brainless sheep.

              which begs the question: why aren't you the fucking shepherd? what's keeping you in your proverbial Mum's basement?

              it must be pretty cool to be you.

        • Yeah, those same friends, too. Money has been perverting our political process since the origin of this country, and until we find a way to divorce the power the super wealthy people (and corporations that are now legally people thanks to the abomination that was the Citizens United ruling) our government will NEVER represent the will of the people.

          I really don't care which side of the aisle you're on, if you're taking money from lobbyists, you're taking bribes.

        • by artor3 (1344997) on Sunday June 19, 2011 @07:48PM (#36494140)

          Fuck off with your false equivalencies. Soros? Really? The only people who complain about him are the out-to-lunch right-wing conspiracy theorists regurgitating what they heard last week on Rush Limbaugh.

          You want change? How about credit card companies no longer being allowed to charge outrageous fees to small business retailers, or change due dates with minimal notice and crank up interest rates when you miss them? How about increased regulation on derivatives and a bureau dedicated to protecting consumers from abusive lenders -- of course, your boys in red are doing absolutely everything they can to kill that one in the cradle.

          And by the way, since when is two years so long that we should forget the immeasurable harm Cheney and Bush and the rest of those scumbags did? Hell, you fuckers were saying "it's in the past, forget about it" three months after Obama's inauguration, while simultaneously trying to blame the recession on Clinton. I'll tell you what, I'll forgive Bush and crew once we're done paying the price of his fuckups. So maybe in thirty years. If we're really lucky.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Well I can't help but giggle at their seemingly random, no-head-and-tail string of attacks.

        You have a very low threshold for comedy. If you ever watch Blackadder, make sure you were a corset.

      • by westlake (615356)

        Man you should chill out a bit and keep your anger directed towards Cheney, his banker friends and the likes who actually screw you up the ass, not a bunch of teenagers playing some high-profile pranks.

        No one is making any fine distinctions anymore between white hat and black hat. People don't care about the hacker's causes. They don't care if he is out for a laugh or going for the gold.

        What they do care about is that he is getting in their way.

      • by localman (111171)

        keep your anger directed towards Cheney

        Why? I got plenty! I'm the Rockefeller of outrage!

    • Anon was going downhill when they got in to the whole purpose thing. Better to have stuck with being the IHM. Trying to turn a bunch of people out for lulz in to moral crusaders would make as much sense as Jimbo waking up one morning and telling Wikipedia editors that they're switching to writing erotic Star Trek fan fiction.

    • I think Anonymous and Lulzsec are going to be our shock troops in the inevitable cyber war that will soon be breaking out. Right now they are pissing a lot of people off, but at the end of the day, the only reason they are effective at what they do is because of laziness, greed, and ignorance when it comes to internet security. It's shocking to me how many of these huge billion dollar companies are doing stupid crap like storing customer information in plaintext files. I mean, that's just ridiculous, and
    • You're not the only one, but Lulz and Anon are trying to create an oppressive regime of their own (perhaps unwittingly) where people are afraid to criticize their actions for fear of reprisal.

      Sadly, this is completely counter to what some people believe they stand for.

    • by Dan541 (1032000)

      At least LulzSec admit to doing things for their own gain.

      Anonymous on the other hand like to kid themselves into thinking they have a valid cause; it's seriously sad.
      LulzSec are at least honest about why they do things.

  • by MimeticLie (1866406) on Sunday June 19, 2011 @05:32PM (#36493382)
    So they attacked Bethesda, EVE, League of Legends, Minecraft, and Nintendo, but when someone attacks Sega they're all up in arms? I'm not buying it.

    I think they're just trolling the media to keep their name in the headlines. And they succeeded (really, Reuters? don't you have wars you could be reporting on?).
    • by QuasiSteve (2042606) on Sunday June 19, 2011 @05:55PM (#36493484)

      This is pretty off-topic, but in reference to your statement:

      Really, Reuters? Don't you have wars you could be reporting on?

      I can't help but wonder the same thing. But not really related to the latest lulzseclulz in any way - I mean war reporting in general.

      I'm sure most of the people here who were semi-world conscious at the time can remember Christiane Amanpour reporting from Iraq and Bosnia, but also many other war reporters in those conflicts and many before them, often risking their own lives to bring reports from the battlefield, human interest stories from both sides, etc.

      But now, I keep hearing every talking head in news reports saying that 'allegedly' this-and-that happened - while a video off of youtube or something plays in the background - but that these are unconfirmed reports because they have no journalists in those countries because journalists aren't allowed into them(!)

      Have the news agencies lost their proverbial backbone, or have they just gotten lazy and think the youtube videos from either side in these conflicts are 'good enough'?

      • The first thing regimes like Syria do is round up the foreign journalists and either lock them up in their hotel rooms or show them the door. All those Western journalists reporting on Iraq or Afghanistan were there at the invitation, or at least the sufferance, of Western troops. Foreign journalists in places like Syria and Iran are on very short leashes at the best of times, and the minute there is the least sign of unrest they are either locked in their hotels or shown the door.

      • I'm seeing the news in .au, and there are plenty of onsite reports from war zones. Try changing your news source. If you select the Sci/Tech news in Google news, you'll probably get more sci-tech-related stuff, that's how the filters work.

        But journalists love that shit. Prancing around in the Green Zone wearing a flak jacket, looking badass, protected by a bunch of real soldiers. It's nice that we can get eyewitness news from these places, but we should remember that these journalists are not draftees like

      • by Xest (935314)

        Try Al Jazeera:

        "Why was he not pursued with the same urgency we pursue al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders?"

        I know some people like to think of them as Al Qaeda sympathisers, but on the contrary, they're one of the best news organisations around today, and are largely quite supportive of the Western mindset. They did a great analysis on Turkey last year for example that was one of the most objective and insightful peices of journalism I've ever seen, and on TV they had a great documentary charting the Egyptian rev

    • I think LulzSec trolling

      Stop the presses!

    • by Tolkien (664315)
      This is why I've been saying it would make perfect sense if adrian lame-o was indeed lulzsec as a whois report of lulzsec.com reported a while ago. He craves the spotlight at all costs, even that of putting away his "friends".
    • I can't believe that someone is seriously debating the motives of a hacker group which labels itself "LulzSec".

  • The Dreamcast was (IS!!) a pretty fucking awesome system. Though the Sega of today isn't nearly as awesome as the Sega of yesteryear.
    • Nice controllers and decent games, but seriously underpowered for that generation. On the other hand, the PS2 was arguably the slowest of the big three (Gamecube, Xbox, PS2) and that doesn't seem to have hurt it much.
      • by nomadic (141991)
        No no no. The Dreamcast wasn't part of the GC/xbox/PS2 generation, it came out almost 2 years before the PS2 and almost 4 years before the GC. It was miles ahead of anything at the time.
        • by cpu6502 (1960974)

          The Dreamcast's early release alienated a lot of Saturn buyers who saw their console abandoned after only three years. Sega destroyed the trust, and many customers vowed never to buy sega again. That's what killed the dreamcast.

          BTW wikipedia lists the DC as part of the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube generation. It was released four years after the PS1, one year ahead of PS2 and two years ahead of GC and Xbox.

  • I still have my Gamegear, apart from the damaged charger, it's fine... SEGA .
    • by hedwards (940851)

      And you really need the charger as the battery life on those things was horrible. Nice unit, but the battery life was terrible.

      • It was great, particularly with the TV tuner and the adapter for Master System cartridges. Yeah, battery life sucked, and the LCD screens of that era had far too much ghosting for fast-paced games. Columns was a pain for that reason.

      • That and SEGA's use of crap transistors makes it a bit annoying, but other than that, a kickass system.
  • Priorities.. (Score:3, Informative)

    by Gi0 (773404) on Sunday June 19, 2011 @05:45PM (#36493434) Homepage
    Dont they have a kinda bigger problem right now? http://lulzsecexposed.blogspot.com/ [blogspot.com]
    • by hedwards (940851)

      No, if you look at the logs, it's clear that the people are either not really part of lulzsecurity or are so low level that it's tantamount to hitting a hired goon when you were after the godfather.

      It sounds like they were related, albeit at a low level and easily replaceable. That being said, it does appear that somebody took offense to the apparent leaked dox.

      Additionally, it looks like they screwed up some of the previous doxes and had to retract them. Not saying that it means that it's fake or fraudulen

  • she could have told Tony who did it to her.... but the writer of the show wanted to display that there was a single character in there that had some semblance of principle, so she did not tell him.

  • We love the Dreamcast, these people are going down

    LOL doesn't anyone else have a sarcasm detector?
    If Anonymous expressed their deep manly-love of the TRS-80 Model 3 (a fine machine for its time, BTW) THEN would people get it and LOL?

  • Derp.

    Because that's the only word that sums all this up.

    --
    BMO

  • Not going to happen (Score:4, Informative)

    by Dachannien (617929) on Sunday June 19, 2011 @06:48PM (#36493712)

    If LulzSec went after the culprit on their own, then it's only their necks in the noose if they get caught (revenge or no, they're still committing a crime). But if Sega contacts them, then Sega becomes complicit, and their lawyers will probably have a thing or two to say about that.

  • Well, SEGA became a nonissue player before they had enough power, and the technology advances, to be Evil. Sony and Co, on the other hand, Are greedy, monopolistic monstrosities that feel they are above the law. Don't think so? When did I give them permission to install a root kit on my computer? -- Well, SEGA never did anything like that. They sold games, and consoles. period.
  • Dreamcast was the XBox 1. It ran a version of Windows CE.

    How come these LulzSec guys keep on indirectly benefiting Microsoft? They've targeted both Sony and Nintendo (of course, they took it easy on N b/c they "Liked the N64").

    I feel old, like my chief complaint against these kids is "get off my lawn," but I don't get where this generation of kids get their motivation. They seem to really care about video game companies, more than most hackers of my generation.

    And like most Slashdotters, I belong to a gener

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